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- normlsparky, on 11/20/2008, -4/+45Silly citizens, rich people and politicians are rarely ever held accountable for their actions. Cheney won't even suffer being inconvenienced over the issue.
- StarThrower2, on 11/20/2008, -2/+33Cheney can't hide behind executive privilege forever. Let's see, 61 days left in the White House and then he's a private citizen . . . still a very rich and powerful one, but he can't hide behind executive privilege at least.
- jojopumpkin, on 11/20/2008, -2/+23 This trial will do one of three things.
1. It will Not happen because Cheney flies off to Dubai where there is no extradition laws.
2. It will Not happen because Cheney's black heart has finally given up.
3. It will Happen but it will such a joke and they will be acquitted. Well, Gonzales (sucks to be the fall guy) may get served sometime but Cheney will remain untouchable. - nikki2300dk, on 11/20/2008, -2/+21Won't Bush just issue a pardon?
- analogkid01, on 11/20/2008, -1/+18Could you be more of a neocon douche? The whole point is that no TRIALS are taking place of the prisoners in Guantanamo - no EVIDENCE is being shown, and no JURIES are sentencing them. They're just sitting in their cells waiting for their turn to get tortured again, and don't act like that's not what's going on there. Your entire argument is little more than neocon fearmongering, a philosophy that was roundly dismissed on November 4th.
- jojopumpkin, on 11/20/2008, -2/+17 They best arrest him on Jan 20th before he leaves the country.
- funkyloki, on 11/20/2008, -1/+16Prisons for profit is a real problem, especially since Cheney is complicit in not only sending federal prisoners to certain for-profit entities, but also for sending them to entities he has shares worth $85,000,000 in AND where prisoners are getting beaten and ending up dead. Think of it this way; there are a huge number of citizens interred because of our draconian drug laws. There never committed a violent act, never robbed or threatened anyone, and yet they are put in a system with rapists, murderers, gang members, people who have no empathy or remorse for your situation, and would shank you for your ramen just as much as look at you. They don't necessarily belong there, but our system has 1 out of every 100 people in America locked away. Prisoners have become a commodity, and are now traded for money, and that is not ethical, nor right. And yes, as human beings they do have certain rights. Maybe not the exact same rights as you or me, but they do deserve at least the right to survive, to live, to not be threatened with violence EVERY day. Prisons for profit means that the bottom line is the determining factor in how prisoners are treated, and the more prisoners there are the more profit there is. Certain systems need to be run by the government, and prisons are one of them, just like police and fire departments are all socially administered.
And if you believe that the only thing someone in prison has to worry about is being clothed, housed and fed, then you truly are a moron with your head in the sand. - 55mph, on 11/20/2008, -1/+15reminds me of Al Capone going to jail for tax evasion.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2008, -1/+13 Stop it - Cheney and Bush, and indeed any government - NEVER EVER is trying t help you. For you to say that only underlines your ignorance of history. I am sure it is warm and fuzzy in propaganda land, but it just ain't so - joe.
Hopefully This entire admin gets their day in court, and if found guilty, meet the same punishment as the previous war criminals.
- dienaked, on 11/20/2008, -2/+144. It will NOT happen because they'll wait until it seems they might be found guilty of something, and then they will pull out their Presidential pardons.
- vidaliasweet, on 11/20/2008, -0/+11I can understand the summons and waived arraignment for the vice president in war time, but the former attorney general holds no office.
- tattertech, on 11/20/2008, -0/+10"You must truly hate yourself if you think that non-american in jail has any rights whatsoever."
It's a shame you hate the principles of this country so much. - dienaked, on 11/20/2008, -1/+11The can always hide behind a Presidents pardoning of past, current and future crimes.
- vinod1978, on 11/20/2008, -0/+9Please alert us once you have rejoined the human race. Thanks.
- Trollbane, on 11/20/2008, -7/+14I want to digg this because I hate Cheney, But I just can't bring myself to if the source is Fox News.
- paigeinphilly, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7then go to prison then....
and stay there. - Mujokan, on 11/20/2008, -1/+8Cheney himself says it isn't. "The Vice Presidency is a unique office that is neither a part of the executive branch nor a part of the legislative branch" = no oversight. They don't call him the Prince of Darkness for nothing.
http://www.slate.com/id/2204616/ - nikki2300dk, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7i thought a preemptive pardon could take care of that...
- IKORKYI, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7he's hiding behind a fabricated executive privelege one day, then claims he's not part of the executive branch the next. he'll just find another way to dodge the law
- Rhendal, on 11/20/2008, -0/+7Yes, that's why I said you don't get it. If someone breaks the law, then they should be held accountable. You made it sound like, "Well since Democrats do it, then it's okay for Republicans to do it." If Obama ***** up and does something terrible *crossing my fingers he doesn't* then yes, he should be held accountable.
And please don't lump me into this by saying, "you Democrats and liberals," because I don't like to associate myself with any political party. - davidlow, on 11/20/2008, -1/+8Guantanamo
- jeremyduffy, on 11/20/2008, -1/+7Yes.
- mikelieman, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6Can a Federal Pardon affect liability under State Law?
- Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6 Wow, a internet tough guy, hardly ever here from you people...
Why not try to add something to the discussion, instead of reveling in your ignorance by yourself?
I'll wait until someone tells you what your opinion is.... - Rhendal, on 11/20/2008, -1/+7You just don't get it, do you?
- cannibalcake, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6Being fed, clothed, and housed in a house full of murderers, theives, rapists, and a small body of angry unjustly sentenced adults has to be great.
"Two years ago, Tunde Clement stepped off a bus at the city's main terminal downtown.
Clement, a black man, was carrying a backpack and coming from New York City. That may have been enough to pique the interest of undercover sheriff's investigators scanning the crowd with their eyes.
They cornered Clement and began peppering him with questions.
He was quickly handcuffed and falsely arrested. He was taken to a station to be strip-searched and then to a hospital, where doctors forcibly sedated him with a cocktail of powerful drugs, including one that clouded his memory of the incident.
A camera was inserted in his rectum, he was forced to vomit and his blood and urine were tested for drugs and alcohol. Scans of his digestive system were performed using X-ray machines, according to hospital records obtained by the Times Union.
The search, conducted without a search warrant, came up empty.
In all, Clement spent more than 10 hours in custody before being released with nothing more than an appearance ticket for resisting arrest -- a charge that was later dismissed."
http://timesunion.com/AspStories/story.asp?storyID ...
***** get free checkups too! Outraaage... - secrity, on 11/20/2008, -0/+6Arrest him immediately following the inauguration, while he is in the limo on the way to the plane.
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -1/+75. It never goes anywhere because the prosecutor is a lame duck whose term expires in 5 weeks, well before a trial could start. The prosecutor didn't even show up for the hearing in question... he seems to have some serious issues, if you read the NYT article on him: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/11/20/us/20texas.html? ...
As much as I do think Bush and his cronies should be held accountable for the way we went to Iraq... this particular case seems pretty badly done. - vinod1978, on 11/20/2008, -2/+7That just makes the Digg THAT much sweeter.
Even Fox is desperate to separate themselves from the mangled Bush legacy. - Shogi, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Yeah it was supposed to be kind of ironic.
- nextekcarl, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Nope. Only Federal crimes:
"The pardon power of the President extends only to offenses cognizable under U.S. Federal law. However, the governors of most states have the power to grant pardons or reprieves for offenses under state criminal law. In other states, that power is committed to an appointed agency or board, or to a board and the governor in some hybrid arrangement."
from: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon#United_States - PGPirate, on 11/20/2008, -0/+5Not if the verdict happens after he leaves office
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4Or, actually, don't bother.
- sqrt2, on 11/20/2008, -2/+6It's about time
- berfle, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4Would you have joined the Hitler youth just to "fit in with the majority?"
- Anomaly100, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4You are sooo cute when you try to act like a man. Silly little tiny boy! Men don't act like that you sweet dumb thing, you!!
- londubh, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4I want to see them in shackles & chains. The orange jump suit would be a bonus.
- duckley, on 11/20/2008, -0/+4Investigate. Prosecute. Convict. IMPRISON.
- PGPirate, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5Why isn't this getting more play in the MSM? I've heard about it once from a local NBC station and Foxnews.com. Anyone know why?
- inactive, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5If he's pardoned by Bush now for all crimes he may of committed to date, that would prevent a trial. See Ford's pardon of Nixon for a very obvious precedent.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5Ya... who cares about laws being broken, a nation kicked to the curb, taxation of those not even born yet, therefor no representation...
I mean it isn't like taxation without representation is a major issue or anything.....
Man, what ever happened to America? - ASSASSYN360, on 11/20/2008, -1/+5OOOHHhh! Don't tease us with such accusations of Justice amongst those who exploit the non-elites of the world.
- Fogdelune, on 11/20/2008, -1/+4They will probably end up inventing a plea of "executive privilege".
- layzice, on 11/20/2008, -0/+2Yawn, fail troll. Try checking out the posters profile before feeding the troll.
- Waiting2awake, on 11/20/2008, -1/+4Yes, and so do you. The media's job isn't to report the truth, it is to shape your world view to something more pliable to the ruling caste.
- sfhock, on 11/20/2008, -0/+2I fear that anything negative happening to DICK Cheney because of this is a dream.. a sweet one, but a dream nonetheless..
- Intercon, on 11/20/2008, -1/+3You're an ass.
- Dundasbro, on 11/20/2008, -2/+44/10 a little too obvious, but I do like your style.
- vinod1978, on 11/20/2008, -1/+3...but at least he's going.
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