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- Renork, on 05/23/2009, -6/+161How does placement in an "unshaded cell in 103-degree heat " not constitute cruel and unusual punishment regardless of the quantity of time? This is unacceptable treatment for any prisoner, let alone one convicted of a nonviolent crime that is only a crime for religious reasons.
Everyone involved should be tried for, at the very least, negligent homicide and if there is any justice left in our system they would be found guilty as well as ordered removed from any government position of power for life. - Nickolassc, on 05/24/2009, -7/+12627 months for prostitution? What the hell is wrong with this country, just legalize it already.
- Networktwenty3, on 05/23/2009, -10/+82I lived in Phoenix for 2 1/2 years, I commonly drove by that prison, I am not a fan of Joe Arpio the Sheriff, I don't care if you make prisoners wear pink, but I do have a problem with the tents and 1 fan, I am surprised more people don't die being left outdoors. People think Phoenix is dry heat, it isn't, it is very humid, especially during monsoon season, I would never wish someone to sit in 120deg heat and 80% humidity. That to me is inhumane. She spent 4 hours in there, but they say no more then 2... 2 is still too long.
- 3fingersalute, on 05/24/2009, -5/+73Prostitution is one of those crimes that shouldn't be a crime. How can it be illegal to sell something that you can give away for free.
This lady died serving time for a crime that is not even a crime in a good part of the rest of the civilized world. Granted, she may have not been a pillar of society or even somebody most of us would give a damn about, but she was still a person and we can't allow mistreatment like this to go unpunished. - novenator, on 05/23/2009, -10/+76The AZ heat is dangerous. Anyone who disagrees have never been there (in the lowland desert) outdoors for extended periods of time.
- GoKings, on 05/24/2009, -1/+56I can't even imagine sitting in 103 degree heat for four hours with no shade or any form of cooling. To die that way would just be excruciating.
- Lleu, on 05/24/2009, -2/+46First, you're right. We can't blame Arapio for this one.
Second..... ***** Joe Arapio - vulcanius, on 05/23/2009, -5/+39She should have only spent 2 hours in it? Even that seems like a ridiculous amount of time given the temperature.
- Snarfy, on 05/24/2009, -3/+34As usual, the corrections officer gets a paid vacation for his awesome performance.
- werkerholic, on 05/24/2009, -3/+33No surprises here. There is an overt disdain for anyone that goes to jail. Somehow the general public thinks that people should be treated like dogs and dogs should be treated like people.
- nitkin, on 05/24/2009, -2/+29How about sentencing the corrections officers to the same prison?
- 3fingersalute, on 05/24/2009, -3/+28Well said. This is neglect in every sense of the word.
- AlphabetFetish, on 05/24/2009, -3/+26They're all in the same basket. Arpaio has corrupted most of Arizona law enforcement
- 13373h4X0r, on 05/24/2009, -3/+26I'm guessing her life was full of sadness...and the way her life ended seems especially sad. The article indicates that they hadn't located relatives to contact...
I'm agnostic (because I don't think anyone can know anything, given that we might be in "The Matrix" or a holodeck), but I sure wish there were some sort of realm where sad souls would find peace and joy. If we're just data structures in a mainframe, or mere atoms in a mechanical universe, then feeling compassion for various states of "consciousness" would be arbitrary and meaningless. But I'm not immune to my own emotional programming. That woman suffered greatly, and I wish the cosmos promised some sort of compensation for her to balance it all out. I know there's no reason to believe in anything beyond the patterns we observe in our environment (e.g., the observable "rules" of the simulation, to the degree there is really any pattern at all), but sometimes I hope there's more to it -- not for people who lead happy and full lives, but for those whose lives are filled with suffering and tragedy. But, as it is, humans should at least try to make life on Earth as compassionate and humane as possible. - 3fingersalute, on 05/24/2009, -3/+24Yeah, probably. Like maybe she was in poor health from a drug habit. Or Maybe she was not in the best of health because she had been living on a horrible prison diet. Not to mention her body was probably in horrible shape because she got almost no exercise living in prison.
But you're right, she should have bucked up and sat in 104+ degree heat for 4 hours without dieing. What a bitch...... - seanjohntx, on 05/24/2009, -2/+23Doesn't 79 deaths since 2008 seem like a lot deaths from natural causes? Does this one qualify as a death from "natural causes"? If so, the Arizona prison system needs a very thorough review. Probably not the only either.
- kaosethema, on 05/24/2009, -2/+20this poor woman deserved better.
- kbillar, on 05/24/2009, -4/+20Most people in Phoenix go from their air conditioned home to their air conditioned car to their air conditioned work place. Being outside in 100 plus degree weather for extended amounts of time can take a toll on anyone. This lady clearly was a meth head working as a prostitute. I couldn't imagine being outside for 4 hours in that weather (I was born, raised, and currently live in Phoenix). Being outside for that long with compromised health is deadly. Sadly, I doubt anything will come of this. Most officials in AZ have no respect for human life (accept that of unborn fetuses).
- maz2331, on 05/24/2009, -3/+18Wrong prison. Apparently this was a state-run prison, not Arpaio's.
- charlie6969, on 05/24/2009, -2/+17When my best friend was alive; I went to Phoenix to visit her for a week. I now call Arizona, Hell. I can't believe how much I missed the color GREEN when I was there. I could only be out of the air conditioning for short times at night. I can't imagine 4 hours in that sun; I don't care what the "reasoning" is! They GAVE that woman an agonizing DEATH.
Somehow paid leave during the investigation doesn't make me feel a lot better about the outcome of said investigation. - TFewell, on 05/24/2009, -4/+19Well if this isn't a violation of the Eigth Amendment. Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.
- bannor78, on 05/24/2009, -4/+19The United States of America Does Not Torture People
- cherwilco, on 05/24/2009, -1/+16I live in Tucson and I can say that I have worked my fair share of days outside in the heat and the one thing that makes that possible is WATER. so when you say she may have had some conditions that mixed with the heat that didn't go well together....dehydration is a pretty big condition. so the real question is did they really give her water?
- santiago1, on 05/24/2009, -1/+15 So you can now imagine what a child or animal feels like when locked inside a vehicle?
- shaelen, on 05/24/2009, -2/+16If you've played football in 120 degree heat for 4 hours, that tells me you were in great shape and your body was used to it. Look at that lady.. Do you think she is physically prepared for even ONE hour in 100 degree heat? Just because you can hack it doesn't mean others can too. Besides, the article said it wasn't known if she drank any water in those 4 hours.
- parax, on 05/24/2009, -2/+16You're woefully ignorant on the dangers of heat-related illnesses It has virtually nothing to do with hydration. It has to do with the body's ability to dissipate heat, some people don't sweat as much, or their metabolic processes don't suspend properly and their body temperature continues to rise until it's fatal.
People like you scare me. You're the kind of person who ends up on the news having killed someone because you didn't think it was dangerous. "I don't know why my baby died, I punch my brother all the time and he done never died on me." - Ivallios, on 05/24/2009, -4/+17I know this is a pretty bad story, but I still have to agree with you
- thorstrongstone, on 05/24/2009, -1/+14You are a moron.
- yocouchdigga, on 05/24/2009, -3/+16104 is not a cool day, anywhere and don't give me that "at least it's a dry heat" *****. These people need to be held accountable.
- Nickolassc, on 05/24/2009, -0/+13Yes, legal prostitution will put meth-heads out of business. You will have the option of paying for high quality.
- 3fingersalute, on 05/24/2009, -0/+13Another cost savings would be to not put somebody in the system for over 2 years for crime like this. Not to mention the lawsuits that are liable to follow which will cost WAY more than housing an inmate for 27 months.
- ironhide, on 05/24/2009, -2/+14So what will be the consequences to those who did this? Suspension? Or maybe someone will get fired.
That's pretty much it. - 3fingersalute, on 05/24/2009, -0/+12That's the dumbest comment so far. No ***** it wouldn't have happened, but she didn't deserve to pay for her crime with her life. There are people convicted of violent and even crimes resulting in death that serve less time and are out walking the streets alive and happy.
- newms32, on 05/24/2009, -4/+16Not surprising at all for anyone who's familiar with Arpaio. Nothing will come of this and he'll remain sheriff - cruelties like this have happened countless times before in Maricopa County without consequence. Learn more about this ***** here:
http://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/2007-12-20/news/inh ...
Unfortunately there are enough Mexican-hating "tough on crime lolz" retards around Phoenix to keep him around. - mydiggID1, on 05/24/2009, -1/+12Guards are the guilty party, which means nothing will come of this investigation.
- noneyaguy, on 05/24/2009, -0/+11"...innocent until proven otherwise."
or until the case is swept under the rug like they usually are. all i know is if it was you (assuming you arent a cop or a politician) or me we would be guilty until proven innocent. this is a double standard society and sadly this is status quo. - 3fingersalute, on 05/24/2009, -2/+12And I'm sure you're right. But unless she murdered somebody, she didn't deserve to die.
- dancantone, on 05/24/2009, -1/+11And nothing will happen to anyone for her death. :(
- kbillar, on 05/24/2009, -0/+10I use to run cross country in 110 - 115 degree weather in Phoenix, WHEN I WAS IN HIGHSCHOOL!!! Being young and healthy as opposed to being old and a meth head are two very different things.
- inactive, on 05/24/2009, -0/+10Dry? I lived here my entire life, it is not humid here. Even during the monsoon season, the humidity is at a bare minimum.
You must have been in a very clean city, because in Scottsdale/Tempe/Phoenix/etc, the entire valley is in a giant bubble of pollution (which you can easily see if you drive outside of town, just beyond the mountains). Within that pollution, the heat is intensified and usually there is little to no humidity.
:p Just saying as a native resident of Phoenix - yocouchdigga, on 05/24/2009, -2/+12104 is ***** hot, dry or humid - two hours is too long, even with water.
- GovernmentsGun, on 05/24/2009, -5/+15Another death, caused by government, over something that should not be a crime to begin with.
- 3fingersalute, on 05/24/2009, -0/+10Exactly. Well, that is until somebody they care about gets thrown into the system and they get to see it happen firsthand to somebody they know.
- inactive, on 05/24/2009, -0/+10I can tell, the lol really sells it. Lamenting Out Loud?
- GovernmentsGun, on 05/24/2009, -1/+10Being a former prison guard, I can say I've known many that would fit that exact description. There are a few good guys working as guards, but they are far outnumbered by the bad guys. Many more still fit the description of kids, emotionally and mentally. They do nothing but sit around all day, talking about sports, talking about which female guards are sluts, and totally disregarding that there are actual people that they're supposed to be watching.
I did the job for almost nine years. The administration, and the other guards, were a large part of my choice to leave. The inmates were a piece of cake to handle if you treated them with the respect you'd give any human being. - Modulo, on 05/24/2009, -1/+10Hahaha yeah, congratulations on your Wicked Ice Burn on that person that was abandoned to die. You *****.
- charlietuna, on 05/24/2009, -0/+9If you want to take that position then she should have been executed in the court room immediately after she was found guilty. Oh yeah, and the terrible crime was charging for sex. Next time ladies, be sure the date is dutch treat if you plan to put out.
Your form of utopia would be a harsh place. - Fib0112, on 05/24/2009, -0/+8Oh, poprocks, where would we have been without your enlightened opinion?
Better off, that's for sure. - wineinc, on 05/24/2009, -0/+8I share your opinion of Maricopa County Sherrif Arpaio. But this poor woman was in a state prison. His department might have arrested her. But I don't see how he could have had anything to do how she was handled inside the state's facility.
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