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Animals Also Killed & Abused In China!

greenopolis.com — With all of the talk about China's poor human rights and limited freedoms for their people, the topic of how horrid their animal rights are has been lost in the mix. China has a horrible record of animal rights, with no laws protecting small animals which are often skinned alive for their fur and meat...

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  • boardingal08, on 08/07/2008, -28/+30That is terrible! Why anyone thinks it is okay to treat animals lie that is beyond me!
    • siglesias, on 08/08/2008, -21/+22something having to do with being at the top of the food chain and being hungry
      • BoneheadFarker, on 08/08/2008, -7/+5Trying swimming with sharks...you're perspective might change...
      • stronglikedan, on 08/08/2008, -4/+2Not really. Shark is delicious.
      • homah, on 08/08/2008, -1/+12another ***** stupid comment. because we are at the top of the food chain we should skin animals alive? how about we use our supposedly bigger brains, show some compassion and kill them in the least painful way before skinning them.
      • MiddleOfNowhere, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9So being hungry entitles people to unnecessary cruelty?
        Interesting mindset.
        Are you serving your kids or friends kittens, boiling them alive? Do you think squeezing a young bear into a cage so small it cannot make a single move in there is fine and dandy because we/you are on top of the food chain?
        You may want to think about that logic. Or maybe not.
      • siglesias, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2take a look around rural china like I have and ask yourself whether you'd take the time to develop "humane" killing methods to feed your children before they'd starve
      • hmunkey, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1What siglesias? Even if you're starving, if you have a chicken, kill it before skinning it. It takes 5 seconds more.
      • CraigCarlyle, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2Apparently they treat animals with the same rights as their citizens.
      • kokuei, on 08/08/2008, -2/+1I think we have to deal with our own species first before we go saving the animals. Priorities people!
    • MasterPain, on 08/08/2008, -14/+14There is nothing wrong with killing animals for food.
      • Rotzooi, on 08/08/2008, -2/+27No, there isn't. But there is no need to make them suffer needlessly either.
      • chadsterrr, on 08/08/2008, -4/+5Seriously?
      • rabidbob, on 08/08/2008, -2/+8As others have stated the issue is not eating an animal; the issue is treating them in a way that causes needless suffering. I'm happy with my place in the food chain, I eat meat and more importantly I hunt my own food when ever I get the chance (which is not as often as I'd like). When I am hunting I kill my prey as quickly and painlessly as I possibly can and make absolutely sure that it is not still alive when I skin and butcher it. Our place in the food chain needs to be balanced against our superior awareness of the universe around us which is why we are at the top of the food chain.
      • homah, on 08/08/2008, -2/+7who is digging this ***** up? the article isn't about whether it's okay to kill animals for food.
    • showat, on 08/08/2008, -13/+13"With all of the talk about China's poor human rights and limited freedoms for their people, the topic of how horrid their animal rights are has been lost in the mix."

      That's because their human rights record IS MORE IMPORTANT. ***** get your priorities right you ***** peta idiots. I don't believe that animals should be mistreated but I also don't think that animals should be held in higher-regard than humans.

      Sometimes, I wish we would release people who post pictures of "cute, fuzzy animals" into the wild and see how long they live with their "furry friends".
      • nycmac247, on 08/08/2008, -1/+8not mutually exclusive; humans can multitask
    • OMGWTFROFLMAOx2, on 08/08/2008, -8/+9That is terrible! Why anyone would focus their time on saving animals while there are HUMANS (as in members of their own species) suffering much worse is beyond me!
    • SomeoneAnybody, on 08/08/2008, -1/+0I agree with you.
      Al least, I never admire most of Chinese actions.
    • plhearn, on 08/08/2008, -4/+5If theres nothing wrong with me slaughtering and eating the flesh of a pig then why can't they do the same to a dog or cat? "Because they're cute" isn't a good enough reason.
      • denizen42, on 08/08/2008, -2/+8Haven't you learned to READ, moron?
        Do they NEED to SKIN THEM ALIVE, moron?
      • dondara, on 08/08/2008, -0/+9Do you kill the pig before you start slicing it up? That is the difference.
      • senatorpjt, on 08/08/2008, -3/+4I don't know how much truth there is to this, but I've "heard" that they torture the dogs because the more they suffer the better the meat is supposed to taste. Also, they steal people's pets. Otherwise I don't see a difference - feral dogs and cats aren't really cute either.
      • plhearn, on 08/08/2008, -3/+1Thats besides the point. They skin them alive because its funny. I bet you're really mad because they're skinning those poor cute little puppies.
      • homah, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2No, people aren't only mad about cute little puppies being skinned alive. Doing that to any animal is disgusting. If you're going to skin/eat an animal, kill it in the least painful way possible, then skin/eat it.
      • Rikkochet, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2senatorpit - that story comes out of Korea. I'm not sure how true it is. It might be one of those "let's ***** with the Westerners" stories someone whipped up. It said they hang dogs up by their legs and kill them with blowtorches because pain releases some enzymes that make meat more succulent.
        But from the sounds of the middle class white teenagers on Digg, that doesn't matter because they're just animals.
      • LocalDocal, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1@Senator

        I actually heard the same. Apparently, doing some sort of ritual akin to torture is supposed to help make the meat more tender and juicy. Additionally, conditional care (such as forcing them to eat only certain foods or letting them do only certain exercises) is also supposed to help make certain parts more delicious or add a tinge of additional flavor not normally found in the meat.

        Additionally, concerning the reason for why they must be 'skinned alive', the answer to this is actually right in the subtitle of the article: For the pelt. When you're killing an animal for the meat AND pelt, that basically means most typical methods of humane killing is impossible. You can't quickly put the animal out through a massive blunt force (example: bullet) because that would damage the pelt; on the other hand, things like lethal injection or chemical poisoning is not possible because it might ruin the meat.

        It's a rather touchy subject currently.
      • absentmindedjwc, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2@senatorpjt

        not so much... many hold the belief (at least in northern china) that being cruel to the animal and then eating it is bad for you... that is why it is impossible to get cat anywhere in northern china... you really cant herd cats... so you need to stuff them into little cages... and they get MEAN...

        as said before.. I believe you are referring to korea, not really china.

        Dog, on the other hand, is easy to herd, and then kill the same way as cows in america (slit their throat).. you cannot really complain about this, and agree with the way cattle is treated here... not to mention it is yummy :)
    • DesiGUY, on 08/08/2008, -6/+2***** Animals.
      • JakeyG14, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1What you choose to do in your own time is normally your own business, but please don't procreate (or try to with animals anymore).
    • IglooBurner, on 08/08/2008, -0/+0PETA is gonna have a field day with this.
      • Leathersoup, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1I'm surprised a petard isn't behind this article.
  • funride, on 08/07/2008, -20/+10Unfortunately it doesn´t really surprise me :( and we probably would have to go back several centuries to find such atrocities in the Occidental nations.
    • morningmatters, on 08/07/2008, -7/+10Rather racist comment, and inaccurate too.
    • bosssmiley, on 08/08/2008, -6/+32Yes, because it's been centuries since we in the West have done anything like big-game hunting, badger-digging, dog-fighting, whaling, fur-trapping, veal-crating or intensive industrial farming. Oh no, wait...
      • TheAkolyte, on 08/08/2008, -9/+3All of those activities sound fun and/or delicious. Grow some balls, animals die every day in every way, and there's nothing you can do to stop it.
      • MiddleOfNowhere, on 08/08/2008, -2/+5"All of those activities sound fun and/or delicious. "
        So whaling, catching animals in traps where they slowly bleed to death etc. etc. are "fun and/or delicious"?
        You sad little *****. You talk about growing balls. How about growing a *brain* and developing a minimum sense of empathy, which by definition separates us from a lot of the animals you obviously don't mind suffering so you can have "fun"?
        Besides, "there's nothing you can do to stop it" is the saddest little excuse used by every impotent emo kid in the world too damn apathetic to move an inch more than absolutely required. Yeah, the world is a terrible place, so let's kill and enjoy the killing, because "there's nothing you can do to stop it" anyway. Speak for yourself, loser.
      • toshibu, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1Live animal-skinning... oh wait....
    • warsongs7, on 08/08/2008, -1/+5And lets not forget the crimes against animal rights in the western countries. Did you ever wonder what happened to all the male chicks that are born and are useless since their meat doesn't turn out as well and they can't lay eggs. If you are prepared to be enlightened and shown the world that exists outside your little window then do a Google search.
    • newms32, on 08/08/2008, -1/+0Fun fact: no
    • perfectsilence, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3atrocities like invading and taking over other countries, pillage their resources, and enslaving entire continents of people?
  • manzplan, on 08/07/2008, -16/+8many people here support those cruelties.

    I often see fake animals - made out of fur, I am sure you have seen them too - where do you think this fur comes from??

    I have no problem with people wearing leather - that is different - we know it comes from cattle killed (somewhat) humanely for food.
    BUT when you buy
    "Made in China" cute animal toy covered with fur.. its entirely different process.
    • blackolive, on 08/07/2008, -7/+18It's not "somewhat humanely:"

      "A secret video made by a worker at a meatpacking plant in Pasco, Wash, showed that this steer, which supposedly had been stunned, had blinking reflexes, indicating it was still conscious."
      -- http://hfa.org/hot_topic/wash_post.html
      -- (with photos.)

      "Workers open the hide on the legs, the stomach, the neck, they cut off the feet while the cow is breathing. It makes noise. It's looking around."
      -- http://hfa.org/hot_topic/slaughter_laws.html

      "I've seen thousands and thousands of cows go through the slaughter process alive."
      -- sworn affidavit from a slaughterhouse worker
      -- http://hfa.org/hot_topic/slaughter_laws.html

      When will people realize these companies only care about profit?
      • senatorpjt, on 08/08/2008, -7/+2***** happens. They at least make an effort. Sort of like when I throw trash into a garbage can from a difference. If it doesn't go in, well, at least I tried not to litter.
        Of course, if that cow were in the wild, it would have been disemboweled while still alive by a lion.
        And, I don't know if blinking means it's still alive - seems like blinking is a fairly autonomic response to eye dryness. Chickens run around for some time after their head is completely off.
      • Animelee, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1 @senatorpjt

        Oh, and where would that be?
  • ionegonzales, on 08/07/2008, -19/+3that's gross.and pathetic.anyway,nice work,thx for sharing :)
    have a great day :)
  • rb77, on 08/07/2008, -20/+36I've seen the dog and cat videos too. What sickens me is for the greed of a few U.S. companies we see China as a progressive up and coming nation. They have tried to sneak there tainted junk over here and got a hand slap when caught. Anything goes for a buck these days, politics new faces but, same old story.
    • colonelbuckshot, on 08/08/2008, -1/+16Dogs and cats are tortured all over Asia, not just China, often for superstitious or medicinal reasons. In Korea millions of dogs are deliberately tortured, skinned alive, blowtorched, flayed alive, hung for this purpose. This is after spending their short lives kept in horrific unnatural conditions. Many of these dogs are snatched off the streets - they used to be part of someone's family.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lcZcEKMmzY
    • blakestah, on 08/08/2008, -2/+5I know quite a few Chinese immigrants. They culturally believe animals have no rights. They culturally believe that we (meaning humans) are supposed to eat animals and use them for our purposes. This is virtually without exception - ie: I have yet to meet someone raised in China who thinks that animal rights activists are anything except horribly misguided in their values. So in a sense you can say I have strong agreement with the Chinese.

      I am not suggesting we ignore unnecessary suffering - it is to be obliterated. But humans use animals for human purposes, and within the constraints of those uses unnecessary suffering must be stopped.
      • alfbolide, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2tons of tones of tones of Chinese animal rights activists in China. please don't discriminate out of ignorance.
      • absentmindedjwc, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2@alfbolide

        in a country with 1.6 billion people "tons of tones of tones" may not be all that much
      • blakestah, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1I am not "discriminating", nor is it "out of ignorance". I have spoken at length with dozens of Chinese immigrants. Uniformly, without exception, they hold the opinions precisely as I stated. And they feel that their opinions on animal use are the norm among the Chinese. And, moreover, they are among the most highly educated and intelligent Chinese people (PhD scientists). There is an enormous cultural difference in attitudes towards animal rights between the USA and China. ENORMOUS.
      • jack12345678910, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0there is a saying in vietnam that goes " with affluence comes morals." i didn't really used to be an animal lover but after i got a cat, sometimes i'd accidentally hurt him or something and i'd feel so damn terrible. and i sometimes imagine what if i had accidentally hurt him terribly, how could i live with myself. the cat has also grown on my parents and he basically follows my dad around and sleep with him.

        the difference is, life in america is so damn easy. in vietnam my parents had a cat too, he just kinda hangs around and catches the rats, sometimes he'd eat our scraps.

        in america now, children has more power than their parents. parents try to sweet talk and reason with the child or bribe them because they have the patience for it. their life is so easy. an old teacher of mine always complains about how it was good back then, the way americans used to raise their kids.

        when you are free to worry about nothing, you begin to worry about things that are less important.
    • Tyrghast, on 08/08/2008, -11/+9You know what? I don't care, and neither should you. They view animal life differently. It is a separate culture and you don't get the right to judge from your comfy, high backed chair. You didn't grow up in China and neither did I, and we cannot begin to comprehend living in China. Animals are killed and 'abused' (a relative term, unlike human rights) all over the world, in every city and in every country. Step off your high horse, you don't get the right to condemn a country simply because their culture is entirely different and incompatible with yours.
      • luckyguy2000, on 08/08/2008, -1/+3thats true. animals are "abused" in the US and europe too.
      • Ellipsys, on 08/08/2008, -3/+10Sorry, ***** this politically-correct "its another culture so that means its not wrong" *****. Would you say the same thing about female circumcision in Africa? How about "cultural differences" in certain Islamic nations that you are free to beat your wife if she gets out of line? It does not indemnify against barbaric practices to cite cultural differences. Sure, there are acts of animal cruelty all over the world, but nomatter what country they originate from they should be chastised and punished, and in many cases they are. You don't get to cut other people's clitorises off, and you don't get to treat animals with unnecessary cruelty and claim that you're a civilized group of people. Inhumane acts of any sort should be pointed out, regardless of what culture you belong to. Its just as bad when it happens in China, as when it happens in the US, Europe, or anywhere else.
      • Tyrghast, on 08/08/2008, -2/+4You can't treat an animal inhumanely, because they are not humans.
      • absentmindedjwc, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2@Ellipsys

        ok.. I agree with you to a point... but you cannot possibly be comparing human cruelty to animal cruelty???

        Here is an idea... forget about animal cruelty, and focus on stopping female circumcision, wife beating, slavery, and other atrocities that are committed around the globe every single day before you start condemning a culture for their beliefs on how an animal should be treated.

        The way a woman is seen in china is nothing compared to some other cultures... They are taught to be submissive.. nothing more.. I would have to say that is leagues ahead of conditions in the middle east or africa...

        Once all of the atrocities against humans are no longer around.. then feel free to post about animal rights.. but doing anything less makes you a hypocrite.
      • perfectsilence, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1so from these videos diggers think it's common to skin dogs and cats alive all over China? why would you make that conclusion? Should the Chinese see the video of how Michael Vick treat dogs and conclude that's how all Americans treat dogs?
      • Ellipsys, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1@absentmindedjwc - Can you really only care about one injustice at a time? Just because one thing wrong, doesn't mean you have to focus on it exclusively until it has been stamped out before turning your attention on another. We don't have to have tunnel vision and limit ourselves. I never said that women in china were mistreated (though, footbinding practiced in generations past could be argued for. Thankfully, that has mostly died out). Why is it hypocritical to identify two wrongs? So lets say I rob your place of business - Would you like to call 911 only to be told "Sorry, we're sure there are some murders and rapes going on somewhere in the city. Once all those are taken care of, we'll get to your robbery claim"?
      • jack12345678910, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0absent is a idiot. in china women are taught to be submissive and nothing more? you're one of those white guys that think asian girls are submissive? go and marry one and you'll see that they control your life. even more than white women do. you think buying a big screen tv without asking the wife is a big deal? you haven't seen anything. it is culturally polite to give the husband face in public.

        and whose to say that western culture is the best? do iraqi's really want democracy? do muslim women really want sexual freedom and liberation? it is part of their culture, you're not gonna go in and say, here you can have this and they'll want it. your argument might be, oh they don't want it because they havent had it. well, i know i don't want to snort cocaine, but if i tried it, i bet it'd like it a lot. i wish the roman empire was still active today, and they take over our country and make all men take a younger boy as a lover.

        "but but i don't want to :("

        "try it you might like it ;)"

        on a side note, is it still animal abuse if a woman has sex with a dog?! if so, i'd been seeing too much animal abuse in america...
    • Aanidaani, on 08/08/2008, -4/+6Is there something better about animal treatment in the United States? This stuff happens all over America.
      • frankb00th, on 08/08/2008, -0/+5Moral relativism strikes again !
        since there are people that abuse animals all over the world, why should we judge the chinese !
        Skinned alive ? are you for real ?
        this is wrong and yes we shall judge China just like we prosecute the sickos that do it over here....
      • Aanidaani, on 08/08/2008, -2/+1I'm not saying cruelty isn't wrong. Just that Americans seem to think they're the most righteous country on the world. Start with your problems at home before condemning other countries.
      • absentmindedjwc, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2"Start with your problems at home before condemning other countries."

        very well put, it isnt as if there are no problems in america to worry about... everything from a retard in the white house trying to start world war 3 with Iran, to murder, rape, and other violent crimes... ***** animal cruelty in other countries until you figure out how to solve your own damn problems.

        Dont want to be told how to live my life by people that cant even fight for their own...
    • alfbolide, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1Bad things happen in every country just like in China.
      There are tons of stories about Chinese animal activists' extraordinary effort to protect animals. None of them will ever get reported to the western cause' nobody is interested.
      True there are plenty of bad stories about the Chinese communist government, but good stories about Chinese people also deserve attention.
      • blakestah, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1There are not tons of stories about Chinese animal activists. If there were, they would be reported to the western world, and the Chinese who come to the western world would know of them. The stories that do come to the western world are western animal rights activists who go to China and take pictures and video. In the same way, you never see a Newfoundlander taking pictures and video of the seal hunts, it is always the Hollywood celebrities who never had to man a fishing net to fill their kids mouths who get out of their luxury yacht, crawl on an ice floe, and get their picture taken with a baby seal to make money for HSUS and PETA.
  • beerock, on 08/07/2008, -14/+9China (and all of you) have much bigger problems. "
    Unfortunately it doesn´t really surprise me :( and we probably would have to go back several centuries to find such atrocities in the Occidental nations." No you don't, check out American history.
    • mrburgundy, on 08/08/2008, -1/+4why don't you just hit reply? its there for your benefit dude.
  • farmerjohn48pan, on 08/07/2008, -18/+13When you visit the zoo in China (No westerners allowed) you are able to purchase livestock to throw to the lions and tigers. Where is PETA?
    • CuntryBoner, on 08/08/2008, -4/+29Lions gotta eat too, ya know.
    • ZeeZee2k, on 08/08/2008, -5/+27In our Zoo, we put PETA members in the Tiger's cage.
    • timoumd, on 08/08/2008, -8/+16Thats AWESOME. Why cant we do that? I so would pay to see a lion bring down a gazzelle.
    • MasterPain, on 08/08/2008, -8/+5Here kitty kitty I got a kitty for you.
    • Rotzooi, on 08/08/2008, -4/+14I've actually seen that. It's disturbing, because the pride of lions is so stuffed from getting fed huge animals, daily (live cattle in my case - they drive in a truck with a cow in the back, tip it and dump the cow, often breaking a leg) that they only play with the cow instead of killing it. So you have a maimed cow limping around, bleeding from every orifice and dozens of chinese people enjoying themselves and taking pictures with their children in the foreground of that gruesome scene.
      • Modulo, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2Yes, I can think of nothing more horrifying and unnatural than not freaking out at seeing nature happen.
      • koxl, on 08/08/2008, -2/+0@modulo: its a primitive culture happening in universe! Its wrong.
      • Rotzooi, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1@Modulo, there was nothing natural about it.
    • Erythroxylum, on 08/08/2008, -5/+16They're too busy firebombing laboratories which're working on cures to life-threatening diseases.
      • senatorpjt, on 08/08/2008, -0/+3Well, maybe now that they're aware of what's going on in China, they'll leave us alone.
    • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -4/+4Stop fantasizing about China, please.
    • flashback99, on 08/08/2008, -5/+17***** PETA
    • protodon, on 08/08/2008, -2/+1yes, i've seen and heard of places where you can feed live chicks to live alligators.
    • PoeticRasling, on 08/08/2008, -2/+3Oh no's! Dare we not allow something to happen that happens in the animals reality... I mean, lions only murder their step-children... *Shifty eyes*
    • norm7, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1AWESOME!!!
  • uwiniwin, on 08/07/2008, -12/+6That is so sad. Thanx for sharing
  • nandemoari, on 08/07/2008, -17/+21I hope China will increase more awareness toward environment and animal rights. If they want to be a part of international society, they should understand these things.
    • OMGWTFROFLMAOx2, on 08/08/2008, -6/+15Why do they have to change their culture to appease some western ideal of what is and is not acceptable? They can't be part of an international society without "selling out"?
      • JakeyG14, on 08/08/2008, -3/+3Yeah, because having a basic respect for life is "selling out". No-one is telling them to become vegans and have half their wages tithed to PETA, just ***** kill the animal before proceeding to skin, eat, etc.

        Also, teach the general population some ***** hygiene, we've had enough diseases lately.
    • Ravatar, on 08/08/2008, -2/+14Oh please, give me a ***** break. There two types of society out there:

      Those who admit they mistreat animals.
      Those who lie about mistreating animals.

      Go take a look in a US slaughterhouse if you want a gruesome image.
      • toshibu, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1Only thing missing from your comment: "GO BEIJING! GO OLYMPICS!"
  • RayPugh, on 08/07/2008, -15/+0I feel more sorry for the animals that are being abused. I mean most of the animals they have look the animals we have here. The Chinese people however are short, yellow and have slanty eyes. I simply cannot feel anything for them.
    • LoJack, on 08/08/2008, -3/+8Yank D. Bags are obese, overgrown and dumb enough to elect GWB.
      • CuntryBoner, on 08/08/2008, -2/+5Brit chavs are obese, have poor dental hygiene and are dumb enough to elect Tony Blair AND Gordon Brown.
      • bosssmiley, on 08/08/2008, -2/+1@*****: we didn't get a chance to elect Brown. He was appointed by his party and bottled an election.
      • ayeroxor, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1If you don't accept the same excuse for GWB, suck it.
  • wishninja, on 08/07/2008, -12/+7People bitch and moan about china being an oppressive police state and then turn around and suggest more oppressive laws they should enact over there. So basically Americans admire the control the Chinese government has, but says they are using that oppression in the wrong way.

    LOL @ American hypocrisy. Its like all of america is schizophrenic and that is reflected in our laws and in our policies and even in the culture. America should just STFU and look at its own record.
    • ArchangelZLT, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Sounds like tu quoque?
      • wishninja, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Yeap I agree in regard to the second argument I made. China does not tell its people how to butcher its animals. They do not put people in jail for fighting horses or eating dogs and cats for food. Its part of the original culture there. I am sure the Chinese government does not support or mandate these things but they are failing to crush the traditions in some remote parts of their country. Its not their priority.
    • ciaran036, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1You are so right. The mainstream media has been brainwashing everyone recently to hate China.
      • islandlife, on 08/09/2008, -1/+0Oh yeah that's it we're all brainwashed, but communist Chinese government does no such thing to there own people. Sad that you would be able to read this comment in China.
      • ciaran036, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1I did not say China does not oppress it's citizens. I'm making the point that we are just as oppressed as them!
    • senatorpjt, on 08/08/2008, -2/+1I don't think laws against torturing animals are one of those "oppressive police state laws" that people complain about.
  • LoJack, on 08/08/2008, -12/+49China also abuses Pandas. They force the poor animals to have unsave sex and deny them of abortion facility.
    • ZeeZee2k, on 08/08/2008, -6/+2unsafe?
    • jack12345678910, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0god damn panda sexual abuse, this is what communism has finally come to.
  • CuntryBoner, on 08/08/2008, -33/+28Am I the only one who does not give a ***** about the goddamn animals?
    • Rotzooi, on 08/08/2008, -13/+24No, you are not, there are actually quite a few damaged people who enjoy torturing animals, skinning them alive as well as having sex with them. It's those sociopathic traits with which psychologists identify future serial killers.
      • ayeroxor, on 08/08/2008, -8/+11And there are apparently quite a few damaged people who think "I dont give a *****" means "I abuse animals"

        You really should talk to a shrink.
      • chadsterrr, on 08/08/2008, -7/+9"And there are apparently quite a few damaged people who think "I dont give a *****" means "I abuse animals""

        Actually, that's kinda what it means
      • denizen42, on 08/08/2008, -2/+3Yup
    • dyuhl, on 08/08/2008, -7/+33For someone who doesn't care about the animals, it amazes me that you would even take the time to comment. My ma told me, when I was young, looking at how a person treats animals will tell you a lot about a person.
    • thedogfatherx, on 08/08/2008, -7/+10Your probably a troubled person.
    • skiiper, on 08/08/2008, -11/+3No, you're not. I also dont give a ***** about animal rights.
      • JakeyG14, on 08/08/2008, -3/+3When I seen people like you, I hope karma is real.
      • skiiper, on 08/08/2008, -3/+2Unfortunately, it isnt. Quite the contrary, I'll be taking home a $3000 bonus today. I will be spending that on some delicious steak, a nice leather belt and some gloves they made from baby cows. How do you feel now sir?
    • senatorpjt, on 08/08/2008, -3/+3No. I was actually surprised to hear that people who like animals more than people are in the minority. (I'm one of them). I think it may have something to do with living in an urban area - you have to appreciate nature where you see it and the only animals around are pets. There are constantly people pissing you off, wasting your time, getting in your way, panhandling you, being generally rude, etc, and I've never had an animal piss me off.

      I could see how someone in a more rural environment would tend to see more livestock type animals and not have people pissing them off all the time. Plus they're not as rude. (this is only my observation from growing up in a northeast US city - where the most common way to address a stranger is "Watch it, *****!" and having lived in the rural South for a year - they were probably even less friendly to me than each other because i'm a damn yankee)
    • pearlygate, on 08/08/2008, -3/+2you're not the only one
    • wishninja, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2I care when they are on a grill. I do not want to see them starving or unnecessarily suffering.(but priorities should be on the health of the family) I do not think it should the priority of massive governments to squash locals for their traditions. I think if Americans had to live in the way most of the Chinese have to live they would not worry so much about animals. If a starving family has to eat a dog so be it. If a shop owner can make a home for his family and earn money selling cat soup go for it.
  • AchaIemoipas, on 08/08/2008, -3/+36You forgot about how they are the main market for endangered species like Elephant horns, rhino horns, tiger penis, bear penis, etc.
    • MasterPain, on 08/08/2008, -9/+3Tiger penis make you so horrnney. You like berry much.
    • jack12345678910, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0well they don't care about conservation because their level of affluence has not reach a stage where they don't have to worry about anything. in america, we find things to worry about. the conversation movement didn't even take full force in america until the early 60's right? we've only been at it for 40 years, we're not that much better than them.
  • detroit123, on 08/08/2008, -11/+6im not eating chinese food anymore
    • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -2/+3For how long? 5 seconds? Keep up with that!
      • Daniel591992, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1That's how long my stomach can handle before I have to rush to the bathroom.
      • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1Daniel591992, You lied.
    • senatorpjt, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2You've probably never had Chinese food, and you would probably never eat it if you actually had the opportunity. The stuff they sell here is really Americanized. There are several Chinese nationals where I work and the ***** they eat is ***** NASTY. It makes the whole room smell like a dumpster.
  • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -15/+8Classic American Hypocrisy. Don't forget you hate PETA too. When it comes to China, you got double-standard.
  • thedogfatherx, on 08/08/2008, -8/+27Humans are disgusting in regards to the welfare of animals.
    • Derelict267, on 08/08/2008, -4/+4We are animals too...
    • Ravatar, on 08/08/2008, -2/+4Exactly, this isn't a Chinese issue, it's a worldwide issue.

      And it's nature.
    • whorunbartertwn, on 08/08/2008, -3/+2Yup next thing you know hyenas will be eating live zebras from the belly up, house cats will be playing with crippled birds by swatting them to death, and male lions will be exterminating all cubs when they take over a pride.
      • jack12345678910, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0omg, are you serious? they are animalssssss then.
    • thallia, on 08/08/2008, -2/+1Humans are disgusting in regards to the welfare of everything. But I say screw the animals. It makes no sense to be upset about the Chinese eating puppies - they're making do with what is available. If I had a choice between starving and eating my cat, I would eat my cat. And I love my cat.
      • wishninja, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1These people think the Chinese are doing it for lulz. Its nuts to suggest that chineese people are just heartless assholes going around killing anything they can get their hands on just so they can jack off. It is their culture it is their religion and in china its the only religion they are allowed. We are asking the Chinese in this forum to increase its abuse of power to include traditions as well as religious practices.
  • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -24/+31***** PETA.
    • eadnams, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2looks like the PETArds are taking over the comments... ;)
    • islandlife, on 08/09/2008, -1/+0So sad the the ignorant are entitled to submit their opinions
  • wynja, on 08/08/2008, -37/+32***** the animals. Animals are food. Do you care if I kick over a stalk of corn or burn an ant with a magnifying glass? Of course not, you need to get the ***** over people killing animals to ***** eat and for their fur and start worrying about what your elected officials are doing to the Constitution.
    • Rotzooi, on 08/08/2008, -15/+15Yeah, torturing animals is FUN! I myself get a kick out of poking the eyes out of puppies so they can't see where to go to drink milk - they die slowly and painfully, especially their death cries are hilarious!!!

      People like you sicken me.
      • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -9/+4Are you a vegan? If not, you are hypocrite. If so, you should know plants got hurt when they are cut/eaten too. You are still hypocrite.
      • Tyrghast, on 08/08/2008, -2/+1All vegan's are hypocrites, the only way you can live without animal products or endangering an animal in any way is to go live in a cave and forage for food.
      • JakeyG14, on 08/08/2008, -3/+1@ AlietMushroom, any proof behind your "plants got hurt" claim. If someone has called you a vegetable in the past and then proceeded to hurt you, that doesn't count I'm afraid.
      • badfrog, on 08/08/2008, -1/+3People like you make me laugh.
        Enjoying a steak is the same as poking the eyes of a puppy out? Get a life.
      • Kallius, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2People used to think animals didn't feel pain, or at least didn't experience it. Now it is generally known that they do (some people still choose to ignore it though). But yes, vegans who choose to forego meat, dairy, eggs, and even honey because to do so would hurt animals are hypocritical, because plants are living creatures as well. Just because we can't hear a corn stalk scream doesn't mean it isn't suffering in its own way. But hey, these people LIKE to tell others what to do because it gives them a feeling of moral and ethical superiority.
        I am completely in agreement with ensuring that animals are not made or allowed to suffer needlessly. Don't mistreat pets or livestock (or even wild animals for that matter) and if you are going to kill an animal, do so as quickly and painlessly as possible. But don't you DARE tell me that such behavior is cruel while you sit there eating your roasted vegetable sandwich, because you're just as guilty of harming a living thing as I am. If you really can't understand that, you're just as small-minded as you are accusing me of being.
      • koxl, on 08/08/2008, -0/+0@Kallius: plants dont have nerves, brains, eyes. Picking a fruit or a nut doesn't even kill a plant and grain is cut and picked just before plant finishes its natural cicle. Puting young bear to suffer and skinning animals alive is cruel and barbarian and would probably do the same to you for fun. People doing it are beasts just like people wearing that in times of fake fur are completely ***** up.
      • wynja, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Is it unnecessarily cruel when a group of lions downs a gazelle and start tearing off chunks before it stops breathing? Is it unnecessarily cruel when a pelican swallows a fish whole alive to be condemned to die by stomach acid? Is int unnecessarily cruel when pod of killer whales play with their seal before eating it? Is it unnecessarily cruel when a house cat plays with a mouse before killing it? No, these are all very much natural. You seem to think we are so very removed from the animals you claim to love and cherish, but we are all branches of the same tree.
    • chadsterrr, on 08/08/2008, -5/+8Yeah, man, I'm sick of the ***** treatment of corn stalks... why are they suffering needlessly??
    • ferrell, on 08/08/2008, -5/+6"***** the animals. Animals are food."

      Uh...

      ***** Sapiens = ANIMALS

      • ryankuhn, on 08/08/2008, -5/+5***** Sapiens = Sentient Beings
      • flashback99, on 08/08/2008, -3/+9Homosapiens = Sentient Beings = Animals

        There, fixed it for you all.
      • JakeyG14, on 08/08/2008, -0/+4@ ryankuhn, so you think animals (outside of humans) are devoid of sentient thought..?
      • norm7, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1Did you really take yourself seriously when you wrote this?
        The whole animal rights movement acknowledges that there is a distinction between humans and animals, stop acting otherwise when it's convenient for you.
      • jack12345678910, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0deep down we really are just animals. beside from our day to day usage of logic, ask yourself if most of your actions pertaining to living are really your own choices. did you really choose those actions? or were you compelled to do so by chemicals in your mammal brain? can i choose who i wanna *****, can i choose who i hate, who i love, what i want to eat. i cant start eating only vegetables, i'd live but my body will crave meat. can you even choose to be a hardworking person or lazy? if so, everyone would be hardworking. when you think about it, freedom and choices is really only an illusion.
    • singularityv, on 08/08/2008, -7/+6PETA cares. Those ***** will firebomb children whose parents experiment on fruit flies. ***** fruit flies.

      Every PETA member needs to die in a fire.
    • MiddleOfNowhere, on 08/08/2008, -2/+4"Do I care if I burn an ant with a magnifying glass?"
      Well, I do.
      If you squashed a few thousand ants accidentally with your car - bad luck for the ants; ***** happens.
      If you burn even one intentionally, it tells me something.
      It tells me that you are a person who *enjoys* actively destroying something that is alive, that has a place in the universe (no matter if you believe there's a god in this universe or not).
      It tells me that you are a sad person who doesn't care if something/someone suffers and dies needlessly (unless, of course, you intended to eat that ant after burning it).
      That's a lot to know about someone.
      • wynja, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1I very much enjoy bringing pain to others. My victims beg me for the torture though. Some people get off on pain. Hell, remember the bitch a few years ago that met some freak online and flew to NC to have him carve her up and eat her for dinner?

        How do you know that ant didn't die in a pure state of ecstasy when I fried him with the magnifying glass?
      • wishninja, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1ants orelly?
      • Greanbeens, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2... or it tells you that he's seven...
    • DellDrEvil, on 08/08/2008, -2/+6Okay peta people...

      2/3 of the chinese population live in a near-starving agrarian economic state. Rice is too expensive for these people. They may in fact eat dogs, cats, horses, pretty much anything cute and furry to survive. I have no doubt that under similar circumstances you'd do the same. even eat a panda. When faced with starvation at worst, and malnourishment at best, and the convenience of the modern day supermarket for viable vegetables to replace the protein sources of small animals and rodents not existing for you... What would you eat? How would you feed your kids? Watch them die one by one? Or would you grab a machete, trudge through the snow outside of your yurt and slaughter a yak calf for food?



    • norm7, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2Just admit it already, a lot of animal rights activism is about saving cute animals from cruel deaths. Certainly a selfless cause and a good cause, but stop acting like it's the most important cause just because baby pandas are adorable.
      • wynja, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Only saving cute animals from cruel deaths is a very selfish proposition.
    • islandlife, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0I say ***** you. Sad that someone so arrogant is entitled to procreate.
  • wrathofg0d, on 08/08/2008, -25/+26sorry but its hard to give a ***** about animals when humans are suffering
    • artfiend77, on 08/08/2008, -7/+23God forbid you should have enough room in yoru heart to give a ***** about both.
      • flashback99, on 08/08/2008, -8/+1there's enough space to think about both in your heart, but in your brain (you know, the thing that deals with reality) it's another matter.
    • homah, on 08/08/2008, -4/+12yeah, it's really tough to "give a *****" about more than one thing at a time.
    • LemonChicken, on 08/08/2008, -8/+3You mean, it's hard to give a ***** about animals...when they are so delicious.
    • pearlygate, on 08/08/2008, -2/+4wow something that makes sense. what a rarity
    • jhdteacher, on 08/08/2008, -0/+6humans are animals (perhaps you're a plant)
    • pakakapa, on 08/08/2008, -1/+3im pretty sure that ppl who dont give a ***** about that kind of ***** are not very likely to give a ***** about other humans either
      • wrathofg0d, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1pretty sure you're wrong m8

        I guess farmers don't give a ***** about other people right?
    • banditsadie, on 08/24/2008, -0/+0with all due respect, wrathofgod!! humans dont get strung up while still alive and skinned!!!
  • banido, on 08/08/2008, -9/+3ORLY?
  • normalkid0615, on 08/08/2008, -18/+6Who cares? LEAVE CHINA ALONE!!!

    LET TIBET HANDLE IT THEMSELVES!! THEY DO NOT WANT YOU STUPID WHITE PROTESTORS IN THEIR COUNTRY> GET THE F OUT!!!
    • frankb00th, on 08/08/2008, -2/+1No we won't !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    • frankb00th, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1DIGG me down all you want
      I'm still gonna post whether you like it or not.
      • normalkid0615, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1OH BOO HOO tibet is a place I never been too and know nothing about, but FREE TIBET!!! When they are free then what? will you create a government? you have no idea what your talking about.
      • frankb00th, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1You're funny.You claim I know nothing of what I am talking about yet you feel perfectly fine about making a statement about my ignorance which, of course, you have no means of measuring whatsoever. Dont you feel silly being in that position ? I mean, youre doing the very thing you are calling me out on.
        I enjoy discussing differences of opinion but if you want to sit at THIS table, you will have to come up with better than that.
  • Antz0rz, on 08/08/2008, -12/+30"the topic of how horrid their animal rights are has been lost in the mix"

    thats the way it should be. they have bigger issues than that.

    edit: I'm against animal cruelty and such but some other things have priority.
    • vuzman, on 08/08/2008, -1/+2What exactly is it *you* do for suffering humans that takes so much of your time that you can't do anything for suffering animals except piss on them?
      • Antz0rz, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1What exactly is it you do. You're essentially trying to divert the attention to those poor little animals.
        Fact is none of us are doing ***** but I'd rather be concerned about the people than the animals.
        Well done, 1/10.

        Also I bet money you feel more sorry for a stray animal than a homeless person. Which is generally terrible.
    • norm7, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1right on, animals are boring
  • UnleashX, on 08/08/2008, -14/+4***** China!
  • Mr.Gone, on 08/08/2008, -6/+32And if PETA has taught us anything, animals are more important that people.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9ijLulwUTY
    • coyote1284, on 08/08/2008, -1/+9Unless you're high enough in PETA, then you can use drugs derived from and tested on animals, because your life is so important to the protection of the animals.
    • islandlife, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0PETA is teaching humans to think about other forms of live beside humans. We ***** each other over we drag other species into the mix?
  • eadnams, on 08/08/2008, -15/+9Oh no. Not the an animals.

    How about we deal with human rights issues, instead of this crap that's pissing on the bodies of those people that have suffered.
    • vuzman, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1What exactly is it *you* do for suffering humans that takes so much of your time that you can't do anything for suffering animals except piss on them?
      • eadnams, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1I do work for Amnesty international and serve pancakes at an inner city shelter.

        If more people put the energy into human rights that they're putting into animal rights... the world would likely be a better place... and lives would be saved.
    • islandlife, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0So who is to protect the animals from humans? ***** people like you are the reason why PETA exists.
  • GuitarHeroDenn, on 08/08/2008, -19/+24Animal rights: Animals have the right to be tasty.
    • shibagarden, on 08/08/2008, -3/+1Wow, I've never heard that zippy zinger before! Top drawer, old chap!
    • islandlife, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0Shall we BBQ you first?
  • timoumd, on 08/08/2008, -13/+22Sorry, but at the end of the day Im WAY more worried about human rights than animal. Undoubtably animal rights get overlooked, but rightfully so. Humans are the first priority.
    • ohbrilliance, on 08/08/2008, -4/+0Why should humans have first priority? Ask yourself that. What makes us more important than other sentient beings? The arrogance of humans will be the end of humanity.
      • eadnams, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2Well, Humans pass on knowledge, build complex societies, have a developed sense of self... Make music, art, etc. Pass on knowledge from generation to generation... Overcome instincts... Kinda like... wait... there's no other life on this planet that does that, who knew?

        Isn't that true sentience?
      • timoumd, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Ok so do you worry about killing bacteria? No. Bugs? Probably not. Crustaceans? Maybe. Mammals? Probably. Anyone will admit there is a hierarchy to our concerns for animals based on intelligence. Since we are at the top we are the highest priority. Factor in our evolutionary imperitive (essentially predisposed genetic patriotism) and you have a very real argument for putting people first. Its nice that we can treat animals with more respect, but we should come first. Fixing China's human rights violations is easier and more important.
    • vuzman, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1What exactly is it *you* do for suffering humans that takes so much of your time that you can't do anything for suffering animals except piss on them?
  • Joet1980, on 08/08/2008, -8/+32What I don't understand is why they feel the need to skin these animals alive?
    • DigTheDoug, on 08/08/2008, -2/+9They taste better knowing they've suffered.
    • sifuchar, on 08/08/2008, -3/+5Be careful about what is presented as fact from extremist groups. The FBI's top terrorist groups in the US are not religious, but environmental and animal rights groups. http://www.fbi.gov/page2/june08/ecoterror_063008.h ...
      From a purely pragmatic standpoint, it's human nature to be lazy. I've never skinned or butchered an animal, but I've got to think it'd be a lot more work to try it on a moving animal with a heart pumping blood everywhere than on a dead one.
      • Joet1980, on 08/15/2008, -0/+1Unfortunately I have seen video evidence.
    • toshibu, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1The adrenaline supposedly makes the meat tastier.
  • xiaodongmen, on 08/08/2008, -10/+15It surprises me how ignorant people are. Talk like you know everything going on in a country which you have NEVER been to or lived in.
    • JakeyG14, on 08/08/2008, -1/+4Well how the ***** would we comment on places like Iraq, Darfur, etc?
    • toshibu, on 08/09/2008, -0/+2Welcome to the 21st century, where one doesn't need to have traveled the world to know what is going on. It's called citizen journalism--you don't get much of that in China, do you?
    • banditsadie, on 08/24/2008, -0/+0you dont have to live in a country or even visit it to know what goes on there, moron!! We have internet and Youtube!
  • scabbers, on 08/08/2008, -7/+13I'm surprised the retarded PETA ad which exploited the dude who got his head cut off on the bus didn't make front page.
  • Mockylock, on 08/08/2008, -8/+3Duh.

    Did they not just take a bunch of ships out to hunt hundreds of whales? I'm sure farm animals are treated different.
    • dreamchaser04, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2you're an idiot. that was japan.
  • mage1129, on 08/08/2008, -8/+9I really don't see the point in caring about animal welfare in a nation where human welfare is also well below the norm. This is why the ethics of PETA and like organizations are way out of balanced with human survival.
    • colonelbuckshot, on 08/08/2008, -2/+5You don't care about something important if something else is even more important? Nice logic.
    • islandlife, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0Grab a clue Sherlock.
  • duckyinc, on 08/08/2008, -9/+8Oh noes animal rights, if the living standards were better maybe they won't have to farm bears? I'd rather see human rights before animal rights.
  • mikesol, on 08/08/2008, -12/+13Who gives a *****? People have to eat, and if this is the food available then this is the food people will eat.

    I'd eat a squirrel, a rat, a dog or a cat if it was a choice between eating that and eating nothing. Without the protein and iron and nutrients you get from meat, you can get sick and die pretty quickly. Yes of course people manage to be vegetarians, but not without supplements and a large supply of expensive alternative foodstuffs.
    • ldw4686, on 08/08/2008, -1/+5it is more than just the treatment of animals for food. it is the treatment of animals for the fur trade, and just to clean up the city before the Olympics. This just shows the blatant disregard for all living things. you have to think that china is becoming a major player in the world and if this is how they treat people and animals, who is to say that they won't try to invoke some of their policies onto the world. it is the superpowers that have control and i, for one, don't want to see a world where there is some much disrespect for living beings. I know people say that animals are not human, but they feel just as much as we do, so I do think they should be protected just as much. Plus, animals can't stand up for themselves and say we have had enough. the people of china could stand in arms and overthrow the government if they united. but, animals can't do that. that's when people, like myself, step in to say that these horrid conditions and treatments need to stop.
    • vuzman, on 08/08/2008, -3/+1You're incredibly ignorant. Please don't talk about that which you know nothing about.
    • islandlife, on 08/09/2008, -0/+0I give a ***** what happens. Perhaps when you start caring Karma won't rape you a bigger on.
  • newwildlife, on 08/08/2008, -6/+7To all you people saying this dont matter compared to human rights I dont agree! Im not sure humanity has shown me any real worth of value???
  • Erythroxylum, on 08/08/2008, -7/+8They skin them and use them for fur and meat? Oh, how horrible! They should be more like PETA and just kill them.
    • vuzman, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1Well, that *would* be more humane... Get it?

      Of course you don't.
  • dharmacrat, on 08/08/2008, -15/+12At least the Chinese have the balls to look their food in the eye when they eat it. You can't say the same about westerners who don't want to be reminded that their food was once living.

    I'm not even going to bother reading this article before I bury it. *****'s racist. And the OMG CHINA IS EVIL ***** is really chafing my ass. I'm tired of greedheads and paultarded capitalist swine polluting digg with this ethnocentric and hypocritical ***** just because China they think China isn't capitalist and therefore is an unholy totalitarian state. I got news for you *****: China's more crapitalistic than the US in many respects, and that happens to be the source of many of their problems.

    Why don't you try fixing ***** in your own country before you criticize others. Glasshouses, *****.
    • DustyinBFE, on 08/08/2008, -3/+3Your intellect impresses me. You have opened my eyes to a new world. Thank you. Your inspirational to many.
    • mikaboogerbutt, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1i agree, thank you!!
    • frankb00th, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1yeah they're real he men allright.
      skinning an animal alive.
      takes a real big man to do that.
      you should be so proud
      oh and ***** you right back
    • rommelbhargava, on 08/08/2008, -0/+0uh oh pokemon got insulted!!

      he is angry

      KAZZZZoOOOOOKKK!!!
      (poki-fart)
  • weister42, on 08/08/2008, -2/+13...and here in the US we tape animal abuse problems and turn it into a TV show on Animal Planet, to make profit.

    • govsucks, on 08/08/2008, -1/+3Do you have any idea how much money those shows get to the people trying to stop animal abuse? BTW, when are you coming over to clean my house for free, wouldn't want to make a (GASP) profit would you?

      Idiot.
  • datwunkid, on 08/08/2008, -15/+8***** YOU PEOPLE, no respect for Chinese culture at all.

    • LemonChicken, on 08/08/2008, -2/+2Yeah, I know. The Aryan culture really got a bad wrap too.
    • JakeyG14, on 08/08/2008, -2/+3You call that horror show culture?
    • mcse2k3, on 08/08/2008, -2/+6Just because it's chinese culture to treat animals and people like ***** doesn't make it right. If you believe it does, then you should have your nuts cut off and shoved down your ***** neck.

      I'm not just criticizing chinese people, I'll criticize every stupid mother ***** that believes in that kind of *****.
      • frankb00th, on 08/08/2008, -1/+1Moral relativism strikes again !
        since there are people that abuse animals all over the world, why should we judge the chinese !
        Skinned alive ? are you for real ?
        this is wrong and yes we shall judge China just like we prosecute the sickos that do it over here....
    • luckyguy2000, on 08/08/2008, -2/+2just because some part of chinese culture seems horrible to us doesnt mean that it isnt beautiful or garbage at all.
      theres much in chinese culture which is quiet awesome. at least theyve culture which roots in thousands of years in the past. its quiet impressive.

      having respect in any countrys culture means having respect of the country, the people and mankinds history.

      the other way around you could say "no repsect for US culture at all", because the history of the states is very short and the MOST part its based on slavery, racism and nationalism.

      who are we that we can judge other for doing the same just some years longer?
    • vuzman, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1Respect is earned...
  • FearFactory, on 08/08/2008, -7/+2Beastie Boys

    Free Tibet!! Free Tibet!!!

    /Beastie Boys
  • republicker, on 08/08/2008, -7/+7Why would anyone expect anything else from humans? Humans kill humans everyday of the week like clockwork. This is no surprise and it will never end until the end of time. So a few chinchillas get a electric probe up their ass, who cares. Animal cruelty is different from animal farming. Just be thankful someone else kills the animals you eat everyday so that you don't have to. I for one have trouble shooting and cleaning an animal for consumption and thats why I don't do it anymore. If you need to shoot a stray cat, do it, its not being cruel its just being proactive.
    • senatorpjt, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1I always thought that farming animals was more cruel than shooting wild animals for food. I'd go hunting if I had someone else to go with who's done it before - I don't know how to find hunting places, and although I've watched the videos about how to dress a deer I think I'd probably still ***** it up if I tried to do it myself the first time.
    • banditsadie, on 08/24/2008, -0/+0animal cruelty is animal cruelty, not farming, if your going to kill something to eat it, there is absolutely no reason to torture it first and then kill it in the worst way possible!! That is just savage and demonic!! There is absolutely no excuse for skinning anything while it is still alive!!!! at least humanely put it out of its mysery first!! The chinese know nothing about the word HUMANE!
  • SomeoneAnybody, on 08/08/2008, -12/+5
    I wonder why Chinese dare to spend money instead of using
    it for helping Tibet, Uyghur or earthquick victim.

    Today is f**king annoying day.
    China Olympic sucks!!

    This is the worst Olympic we've ever seen or accepted.

    Some people say that's not Chinese citizen but communist's fault.

    But I cannot believe how Chinese citizen could be pleased with
    festival behind such cruality.

    That's just insane as human being.
    • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -2/+4Your ignorant makes you a moron.
      China spends hundreds of millions to develop Tibet every year.
      Tibetan students can go to colleges with much lower requirements than Han students.
      China has been the fastest and best in rescuing earthquake victim (BTW, WTF is "EARTHQUICK"? Go back to school, you ignorant turd!).
      There are many people suffering every where right now, and you are doing nothing but getting online posting ***** for your own pleasure. You are hypocrite.
      SHAME ON YOU!
      • LoudNoise, on 08/08/2008, -4/+0The irony of this comment is almost too much to handle.
      • SomeoneAnybody, on 08/08/2008, -0/+0Anyway, U better kill yourself.
      • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1So you'd rather kill human than animals. You cold blood barstard.
    • COLDshiver, on 08/08/2008, -0/+5Don't talk about China, talk about the US spending BILLIONS of dollars for the war in iraq.
      • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -0/+2The US gov't is spending OUR money to kill innocent people for special interest groups.
      • SomeoneAnybody, on 08/08/2008, -1/+0I don't care, motherf***ker.
        You have no right to command me.
      • AlienMushroom, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1@ SomeoneAnybody
        COLDshiver has every right to post anything he wants to say here.
        Posing as a freedom fighter while trying to limit others' freedom. You are hypocrite.
  • caustad, on 08/08/2008, -17/+12I love animals...they're delicious.
    • diabolicedict, on 08/08/2008, -1/+0i don't know why you are getting buried. It seems there's a lot of hypocrite or maybe ignorant people here who does not know that beef or pork are from animals too.
  • shutaro, on 08/08/2008, -10/+5***** the PTA!
  • coolxin, on 08/08/2008, -5/+7but ,maybe what you guys never know is that we ordinary chinese people do love animals.
    • ldw4686, on 08/08/2008, -1/+3I am sure that there are people in China who hate what is being done to these animals. But, with your government, I bet there is not a whole lot you can do to stop the torture of these animals. It is sad what the government does with almost no hope of changing it.
  • DustyinBFE, on 08/08/2008, -4/+16As someone from China would tell you, "Anything that has a back facing the sky can be eaten."
    • JakeyG14, on 08/08/2008, -2/+6Let's hope there are lots of the animal abusing ***** lying face down then.
    • protodon, on 08/08/2008, -3/+2Hmmm there's a loophole here somewhere. How many hours of the day must this creature's back face the sky? And is sleeping included??
    • mcse2k3, on 08/08/2008, -3/+4So when your asleep on your stomache, your fair game?
  • lattin1, on 08/08/2008, -6/+12So what? I'm no advocate for animal cruelty but dogs are considered food in China. How is that any different then us eating cows, deer, buffalo, etc.. People just love to hate on China. Stop your bitching already. I got two words for you: Michael Vick. Stop acting like our ***** doesn't stink.
    • frankb00th, on 08/08/2008, -2/+2It is different in the lack of skinning alive you worthless *****
    • thecoolestguy, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1The fact that dogs are social and run up to you and muzzle up against you would make you think that all cultures would afford them at least some compassion, rather than skinning them while they're still alive.
    • toshibu, on 08/09/2008, -1/+1Michael Vick didn't skin/boil a dog alive.
    • thecoolestguy, on 08/10/2008, -0/+1Michael Vick is in jail. Chinese people as we speak openly kill dogs for food.
    • ashleyyyy, on 08/13/2008, -0/+0You're an idiot....michael vick is in jail. idiot. Difference between skinning a helpless innocent dog alive/ having them hang upside down for sicko Chinese to choose their dinner... idiot. idiot. idiot. I have an idea, since you love China get the f out of the US and GOO THERE!
    • banditsadie, on 08/24/2008, -0/+0I think you you are missing the point latin1, its not just about eating something, its about torturing it in the worst way first, just for pure pleasure!!! Therein lies the sin!!
  • TomT223, on 08/08/2008, -8/+1Let's just nuke the *****.
  • fx666, on 08/08/2008, -3/+4They torture people too, especially the Tibetan monks.
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