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- gigi52, on 04/04/2009, -2/+20Good for NATO. I am glad fanatical muslims are not blocking any appointments. It is ridiculous for their uproar over a cartoon to even be part of the landscape. Get over themselves.
- OfNumbers, on 04/04/2009, -2/+17Do you have any idea how offensive that is?
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/comics/20060204. ... - fury420, on 04/04/2009, -3/+14"The centre-right Danish prime minister angered Turkey and many Muslim countries with his refusal, three years ago, to apologise for Danish newspapers printing cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed."
"Violent protests over the Danish cartoons spread to Afghanistan and Pakistan in 2006 and since then the Taliban have exploited the issue for propaganda value.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan, Turkey's prime minister, had suggested that the Dane could become a focus for Muslim protests against the West.
"We are receiving telephone calls from the Islamic world, telling us: 'By God, this person should not become the secretary general of Nato'," he told Al Jazeera on Friday."
wait, thats it? the cartoon again?
where was the outrage in the Muslim world when one of their own murdered people involved in the production of that satirical cartoon? - URnotheonly1, on 04/04/2009, -2/+101 muslim country. really tired of hearing about their concerns
- peticsu, on 04/04/2009, -1/+9America has the most powerful army because of its logistics...a lot of the military's resupply goes through the EU/NATO.
If you value national security you should value NATO...but I guess its too hard to pull ones head out of their ass and its too easy to go ahead with the Euro bashing... - spartan777, on 04/04/2009, -7/+13NATO has nothing to do with defending Europe. NATO's role has been to clean up from the US's war.
- EarlOfLade, on 04/04/2009, -2/+8Good for NATO!
As far as I can see no other Islamic country than Turkey is part of NATO and I don't give ***** if they are offended. Being offended on behalf of your favorite fantasy figure does not carry much weight with me, it's 100% ridiculous in the first place.
I don't like the way these Islamic countries treat women and non-muslims but do they listen? Why should NATO? - MrARPA, on 04/04/2009, -2/+7I can tell the EU is going to have lots of "interesting" times ahead when Turkey is finally admitted.
- tsotha, on 04/05/2009, -0/+5I would be surprised if that actually happens at this point. Northern Europe is trending anti-Islamist, while Turkey is trending the other direction. It seems likely excuses will be made to exclude the Turks indefinitely.
- kkthxbye, on 04/04/2009, -8/+12I'm Danish, and i'm very happy .... To finally get rid of him as our prime minister.
- consciouseffect, on 04/05/2009, -1/+5grummond, the economic boom in the 90s had little to do with our government or yours, it was largely a result of the information revolution aka the internet
- kolding, on 04/05/2009, -0/+3Sorry left wing ofc.
I would also like Anders Fogh Rasmussen to be more liberal then he is. You speak of the welfare system like somthing that works.
Ok right. You don't belive that to be a utopia?
If it wassent a utopia, moonlighting wonden't be a problem, and you woulden't have a huge strike in the public sector last year.
Solidarity would rule if you read your books, but no! We all have to be the same. If one person runs faster then another - we cut off the fastest persons leggs.
Please don't give me that. Our country is fare more great then what Social Democrats can give us! - NorrisOBE, on 04/04/2009, -0/+3Exactly.
- Rudegar, on 04/04/2009, -2/+5most of then cartoons were rubbish anyway
and only 2 could be seen as offensive
1 I recall as clever somewhat fun this one
http://www.kritiskportal.dk/billeder/muhammed1.jpg
but the most outrages people never saw them because
it would be a sin to see them - CeeJayDK, on 04/06/2009, -0/+3Best primeminister we've had in a long time.
I think he will make an excellent Nato Secretary General. - nortel, on 04/04/2009, -7/+9That's actually sad! For many people around the world, he was the only real idealist left in top politics, and the only person who actually still belives in the freedom of speach, and freedom of the individuel.
I can't bleive you got a socialist movement in a country with a"high" education as the danish.
seriously man... Think about what you are loosing.. You should be ashamed of your self. - gigi52, on 04/04/2009, -2/+4It is satire. Satire may offend. Their editorials and supposed newscasts that are flagrant threats are much more offensive than a cartoon.
- Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -2/+4"Could you give me one eksample were Nyrup diden´t run away?
Seriously? Any eksample?!?"
Sure, Nyrup Rasmussen did NOT back away from assuming government of a country that was in the throes of an economic recession, with unemployment rates in the 12-15% range and huge deficits on the budgets.
He took the challenge and turned it around. When he left, we had surplusses in our budgets, foreign debt was rapidly declining and unemployment rates were very low.
Good enough for you?
Anders Fogh Rasmussen inhereted an economy that was steaming forward, butis now running away when things aren't going so great anymore.
The architect behind the new EU??? What in the world are you talking about?
Changing our tax system to a progressive system? Is that what you meant? Our tax system is now LESS progressive, thanks to his tax breaks for the wealthy. That is not getting ready for the future, it's moving away from the system we've had for almost a century and has made us into one of the wealthiest countries in the world. - poidh, on 04/04/2009, -1/+3NATO has nothing to do with defending Europe, even though the primary reason for existence after the second world war was to prevent a Soviet invasion of Western Europe? The US defends Europe because it is in their interest to do so, politically, financially, ideologically and morally, and it gives them a "spring board" to project into Asia to counter Islamic threats, something which us Europeans don't tend to do on our own due to cowardice, vote-begging, etc.
- Doc123, on 04/04/2009, -6/+7Another blow to the radical mooselims
- Callesen, on 04/05/2009, -3/+4Good riddance. Please don't ***** up NATO too bad.
Now, let us get back to fixing the health care system, education system and public transport system that the guy so happily destroyed.
/A Dane
(Also: Turkey seriously needs to get some of all that sand cleared out of their vagina.) - MrARPA, on 04/05/2009, -1/+2Some countries would like to exclude Turkey but, to me, it seems almost inevitable they will join.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_t ... - kolding, on 04/05/2009, -1/+2See now we are actually getting somwere.
I do alot of debating on forums like "rød front" og "attack"
You are not like them I see :) Thanks.. I feel better now :-)
"If the conservative/liberalist theories were true, we would be an extremely poor country now.
We aren't."
I think I know were we don't reach each other. When you think Anders Fog and co. You think USA.
Well that might be true. But here is somthing to think about. Venstre's ( for non Danens - Anders Fogh's party) sister party in the US is Democrats. Conservertive don't have a sister party in the US, but there sister party is the French Conservatives. No one in Europe Agree with US republicans.
I think all partys in Europe belive in goverment - I also. But I do belive that it takes individiuels to create wealth.
I hope you all can bare with me killing the english language. I am througe a bottle of wine now, and can't spell any more. - poidh, on 04/04/2009, -1/+2Well, you have a point, because any outside observer would be justified in seeing that Europe is week, and has been for over 60 years. The problem we have in Europe is that politicians know that wars are unpopular, so they like to let the US do their work for them. Remember Bosnia, Kosovo, etc?
- DruFiredoglake, on 04/07/2009, -0/+1What about Marek? Is he going to go with?
- Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -2/+3Kolding, when talking about economics, "Venstre" (Anders Fogh Rasmussen's party) is VERY much like the Republicans.
They're for deregulating, tax breaks for the wealthy, less government control over companies, more privatization and dismantling the welfare benefits.
Doesn't get much more right wing than that. - Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -3/+4I started my adult life in the job market in the early 90's, I know exactly how the job market was for me back then.
Back then, we used to say everyone knows at least 3 people who can't find a job.
In the late 90's, almost everyone had a job.
The socialist/democratic government made some drastic reforms, which jump started our economy.
They did a great job, even the most hardened conservative can't deny that. The best thing i can say about Anders Fogh Rasmussen is, he didn't waste that booming economy totally.
Ok, he took a stand against the muslim radicals in the cartoon debacle, but i highly doubt any other danish politician wouldn't have done the same given our high respect for freedom of expression. - Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -1/+2Conscius, that's a pretty revisionist approach to history you got there.
The "information revolution" as you call it, was very short lived. And it didn't really benefit most in the long run, as the startup's created in those years went bust, most of them.
We were actually swimming against the current, since our (then) biggest export market, Germany, had a serious economic recession shortly after the two Germanies merged.
Economic reforms from the socialist/democratic goverment, like creating service jobs, offering government paid training programs (aktivering), scheduling infrastructure work ahead of time, and enrolling the surplus workforce in training programs made a huge difference, and lead to us getting out of the recession with a highly skilled and motivated workforce.
It seems the US is now going through the exact same thing, and i wish Obama the best of luck in getting the same reforms started, despite opposition from the guys who started this mess in the first place. - kolding, on 04/05/2009, -2/+3You do realize we have had a conservative and Liberal goverments in 20 of the last 30 years? How can you as a Dane not say that have made us become a better and stronger country?
- Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -4/+5I agree.
He's the typical "winner" type personality.
He's been riding the success train which our socialist/democratic government in the 90's started by getting our economy back on track. Now things aren't looking as good as they used to, so he's running away from the wreck. He can't be associated with ANYTHING that doesn't guarantee him a 100% success rate. So he's running away.
Over the years, he's been dismantling the system which has made Denmark great. Our welfare system is envied by many, and it seems countries like the US are now trying to convert into a similar system. Anders Fogh Rasmussen has been trying to destroy it, gradually.
The best thing i can say about Anders Fogh Rasmussen is, he didn't waste the booming economy he inherited from the Socialist/Democratic government totally. He DID spend the surplus making things tougher for the poor and enriching the rich though. - Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -3/+3Ok, left wing then :P
It's obvious you don't like our welfare/flexicurity system.
But you can't deny that it works, and has worked out great for us.
If you need proof of that, open a newspaper. Any newspaper.
If the conservative/liberalist theories were true, we would be an extremely poor country now.
We aren't.
Even the conservative/liberal governments have continued supporting the welfare/flexicurity system.
OECD actually applauds us for our flexicurity system, saying it's one of the reasons our economy doesn't go into a deep recession when the world economy is tanking.
The conservative/liberal economic theories have failed in the US just recently, and has launched most of the western world into a major recession/depression.
Why do you insist on supporting those principles? - kolding, on 04/05/2009, -3/+3Could you give me one eksample were Nyrup diden´t run away?
Seriously? Any eksample?!?
We are talking about Anders Fogh Rasmussen. The Architect behind the new EU. The prime minister who started the change of our tax system to a prograsiv - making it ready for the future.
A you from Seriously from Denmark? This is not what I recognizes as my home country. - Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -3/+3No, I'd rather have someone that doesn't run away from a challenge, and is willing to take responsibility in a situation that isn't perfect. Like Poul Nyrup Rasmussen did in the 90's.
Anders Fogh Rasmussen inherited a great economy that was steaming ahead. Somehow i knew he would quit once he hit a bit of trouble. That's how it works with people of his personality type. Take responsibility when things are working great, wash your hands when things aren't. - inactive, on 07/09/2009, -0/+0take whats left of the t.a.r.p money and put it towards health care
http://cheats411.com/ - kolding, on 04/05/2009, -4/+3you rather have a "looser" type as prime minster?
Just so we are at the same page... The Socialist/Democratic government got there good ecomomy from a liberal/conservertive gov. Don't give me any bull about the socialist created anything. - Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -4/+3Kolding, look at the history of those years, in the years we had conservative/liberal governments we've been in trouble, mostly with the economy. In the 90's we had a socialist/liberal government, and they turned things around, which started the booming economy we've had until this financial crisis started.
Anders Fogh Rasmussen didn't waste the surpluses on our budgets, but he made things worse for a lot of people.
Funny fact: In the same time period, the US had the same trend, the conservatives wasted the economy, the socialist/liberals (in the Clinton period) had constant surpluses. - Atheuz, on 04/04/2009, -6/+5I'm Danish. Anders Fogh Rasmussen was a prime minister who didn't give ***** about the danish people and only cared about furthering his career to the international scene, he didn't do ***** for us and left everything on his agenda to his minions the past year. He was not an idealist, he was a realist. He might have realized a thing most danes and most danish politicians realize; that freedom of speech is a right of the people and the government can't take that away - but that doesn't make him a idealist, it makes him normal, at least when it comes to danish standards.
There's a social democratic movement in the danish society because there's a need for it and because it's worked for us before, much more so than Liberalism and Conservatism - Much more so than the current government, who has only furthered their agenda of leaving the weak and the poor behind in the mud while making everything incredibly easy for the rich - Americans might do it like that, but danes don't, or we shouldn't and a large portion of the population has realized this over the course of his leadership and his government.
I'm happy for him though, mostly because now we don't have to deal with him anymore and can finally move onto a new prime minister who likely has new ideas of how to do things. I'm happy to be rid of him. - Pixelante, on 04/05/2009, -3/+1Well, he'll go down in history as NATO's last secretary.
- Grummond, on 04/05/2009, -5/+3Kolding...commie boy and right wing?
You DO know that those are opposites, right?
Right wing is as far away from a communist as can be.
Fogh Rasmussen might be a liberal by name, but his policy in the social areas have been far from liberal.
He has more or less been enriching the rich and gradually dismantling our welfare system, his foreign policy has been "right wing'ish" as well, being the perfect little lapdog for Mr.Bush. - inactive, on 04/04/2009, -5/+3The angle in that picture made it look like he was feeling her breast.
- Doc123, on 04/04/2009, -4/+2Chilling Islamic Demonstration of Danish Cartoons. London.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_kyNIevsIs&fea ... - kolding, on 04/04/2009, -8/+4I am also Danish, and I think you suck!
Screw you commie boy, and screw the rest of you right wing dictatorship. I hope never to se the day your kind get any power in Denmark! - americanoboy, on 04/04/2009, -8/+2nato, a group created on fears of imaginary threats.
- dcodrea, on 04/04/2009, -16/+8Why don't we let the Europeans defend themselves?
- inactive, on 04/04/2009, -14/+3Why we need NATO again? or right soviets...silly me!
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