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- yyymilitia, on 08/24/2008, -4/+30Fact: Half of all food is consumed. You need to be optimistic.
- mjf7419, on 08/23/2008, -8/+30Half of all food world wide tastes bad too.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -3/+19it's funny because people are starving
- TheMachine1, on 08/24/2008, -0/+14My dogs are absolutely opposed to wasting food.
- M724, on 08/24/2008, -3/+17It's a shame, seeing how much good food is wasted. Then we say there's a food crisis.
- IG64, on 08/24/2008, -0/+12I used to work at Wal-Mart in food stocking. An unsettling amount of food is thrown away nightly due to small things. For example, if one tub of yogurt falls out of a package of 12, the whole thing is thrown away.
- Herostratos, on 08/24/2008, -0/+11Habe they asked themselves: Why do they waste food? After all, food does cost money and the businesses and individuals have every incentive to minimize the loss of food. The answer must be that the cost of preventing the loss is greater than the cost of the food itself. If one is concerned with producing the largest amount of food then we ought to waste this food.
An example: Say that it takes the amount of resources needed to produce 1.2 kg of grain to keep 1 kg of grain from getting wasted. Obviously the rational thing is to not care about the wasted grain.
Buried for trying to find an easy answer to a complex question. - anotherjack, on 08/24/2008, -0/+10Sorry, I don't want to be told to clean my goddamn plate. I try to order less, but they wont let me get the "senior" or "kiddie" meal. If I order just one egg, the fry cook assumes I am poor and gives me 3. Which is sweet but kind of defeats my point. I can't eat like an American, but I have no choice but to order like one.
- glutamate, on 08/24/2008, -0/+8Saying that wasting food is a problem because there are people starving is like saying that heat wasted though a lack of home insulation is a problem because people die of hypothermia.
You might as well whine about how bathing is a waste of water when there are people on the planet who are dying of thirst. - BlakkSheep, on 08/24/2008, -0/+8The other half turns to poo.
- overshoot, on 08/24/2008, -0/+7I'm not sure where you got the one-third number from.
About three percent of all water is freshwater. Desalinizing the rest is expensive, so it is of little use.
And of course in some places people dump their crap in other people's water supplies, making it unsafe to drink.
If ways can be found to use less water it's a good thing. - BrainInAJar, on 08/24/2008, -1/+8I for one would love to see supermarkets, rather than tossing "off" vegetables and fruit, ship the half-rotten bits to a central location somewhere where it can be fermented in to ethanol for fuel
- Pake, on 08/24/2008, -0/+6One need not look past our refrigerators and pantries to know that.
- guk6kk, on 08/24/2008, -1/+7We don't only waste food, but we also pay agricultural firms to not produce food by subsidizing them.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -0/+6It's not just individuals simply not eating all of what they have - think of all the restaurants in your town dumping out unused product.
- jabrthel, on 08/24/2008, -5/+10Does it never occur to anyone that as food prices go up, the problem might actually fix itself by... oh I don't know... making it economically viable for manufacturers, farmers, and consumers to develop ways to NOT waste food? Always with the putting of things on the political agenda! We saw how well that worked out for ethanol! (which of course, thanks to the feds, is a major source of current food problems) (Oh, and don't give me no B.S. about "if only the right people were in charge")
- Haoie, on 08/24/2008, -4/+9When your mother told you to clean your plate, she meant it.
- electrifried, on 08/24/2008, -0/+5i work in a 'cafe' and my boss forces us to chuck out all the food at the end of the day - which is about 10kg worth of potatoes, quiche and chips. And pasta. he doesnt let us eat anything, even if were closed. -.-
- sodade, on 08/24/2008, -0/+4It is an overpopulation crisis - not a food crisis.
- liquisoft, on 08/24/2008, -0/+4I thought we were supposed to eat less, because we're so fat.
- anotherjack, on 08/24/2008, -0/+4It's good that you kept asking. "There are no stupid questions" means that its really good to ask when you don't know. People assumed you were either trolling or not researching before asking. You can look up "water crisis" on the digital interweb by typing it into google, wikipedia, etc. I put my own answer to this question in your first post, above.
- IG64, on 08/24/2008, -0/+4Usually it's due to bad packaging. Some of those yogurt cartons are really flimsy, so if they're torn at all they won't hold the containers anymore, and no one would buy it. That's just one example though; the point is, I saw a lot of perfectly good food get thrown out.
- wattersm, on 08/24/2008, -0/+4You're safe, Pepsi isn't food.
- anotherjack, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3That 60% isn't all available. Consider where water is located and whether its drinkable.
Water can be physically unavailable, hidden far underground, or located in a hostile country. It can be contaminated by natural substances like lead, cyanide or uranium. Theres also pollution, such as feces from humans, or pesticide and fertilizer runoff from farms, or industrial waste from factories. Much of the worlds water is sea water - not drinkable.
Currently desalinization isn't all that productive, cost effective, or energy efficient. Also, it seems smarter to stop f*cking up our drinkable water with pollution before we start trying to process sea water. The "water table" which is the level thats reaching up to us from the ground, is getting lower. Not good. Where it is scarce, people and countries fight each other for water rights, and lack of it causes famine and war, so... that's the big deal. - topbob, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3about 70% of the earth is ocean.
98% of the water on earth is the ocean.
2% of the water is fresh.
1.6% (and dropping) of that is frozen in polar ice.
0.36% is the water you, me, and everyone, live off of.
In case you forgot, no, you can't water plants with salt water. - thrillki1l, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3so is one of my cats
- TekTrixter, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3I have solved that problem by getting a to-go container and saving the half I don't eat then to eat for my next meal. Only works if you have access to a refrigerator though...
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -2/+5"According to the Food and Agriculture Organization of the United Nations, more than 25,000 people died of starvation every day in 2003." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starvation
- glutamate, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3Thanks for reassuring me that there are some non-retards out there.
I can see the stupid hippies going "Yeah, we should ban waste duuuude"
The solutions need be nothing more than economic. - glutamate, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3Economics FTW.
Retards with simplistic ideas FTL. - cambob76, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3It's the same people who are stealing Mayor West's water!
- blackb0x, on 08/24/2008, -0/+3but, you plan on eating all of that food, right?
- slightlygifted, on 08/24/2008, -3/+6yes lets send all our food to africa so they can all have 8 more starving kids themselves.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2Or feed it to livestock like pigs. Just cull the meat out and feed them all the vegetable matter. Feed the meat to dogs and cats. I've made many thousands of pounds of pork using this method.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2It's not B.S. buddy it's real.
- Rotzooi, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2Huh? Why?
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2So basically you have enough food for you?
Uh, it's not "hoarding" when you purchase 10 days worth and eat it in 10 days.
Also, hoarding would not be wasting it.
That's not the problem.
Read the article. - inactive, on 08/24/2008, -1/+3I blame it on God.
- wattersm, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2I don't even care about the ones in my own country, in the same state maybe but even then it's a non-issue for me, the only people I truly care about are my kids and a few of my close friends.
- hiPpymIck, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2save food at home site
http://www.lovefoodhatewaste.com/ - thrillki1l, on 08/24/2008, -2/+4Stop burying questions about whats the big deal about using a lot of water. IT'S A SERIOUS QUESTION!!!. I honestly don't know why wasting water is a big deal. the earth is a third water.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -1/+3It''s not an overpopulation nor a food crisis. It's a government crisis. Too many governments prevent the free flow of goods (food) to their populace in order to control them. Where there is capitalism, there is little hunger. But don't confuse capitalism with corporate fascism like we are starting to embrace in the US.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2That' because wally world has no process for selling damaged goods. Dent and bent stores fill that void. The consumer in this country is mighty picky.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2Or better yet, unless traveling, cook and eat at home. Even while traveling, carry a cooler and eat out of it.
- inactive, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2You have to clarify what is causing the crisis. It about potable water, not just water. Our biggest concern is the lack of usable, fresh water. But now, they are using seawater for fertilizer in some areas. It seems that sea water contains many micro minerals that are not available otherwise. The "salt" in sea water is not all NaCl.
- jabrthel, on 08/24/2008, -0/+2Go figure, they already do something like that because it's economically viable... the vegetables that are tossed "off" make there way to a central location known as a "dump" ;) Here, as the article already states, this "dump" releases methane due to bacteria eating off the "trash". Apparently, for large "dumps", they already capture the methane in order to use it for various purposes. For the smaller of these central locations known as "dumps", a private market firm has already been set up in order to explore ways to economically capture the methane that's being released. And it's all been done without someone needing to make it a political agenda! Wow, it's amazing that people are able to wipe their asses without a reminder from their congressman! Take it for what you will.
http://www.newscientist.com/article.ns?id=dn7048 - jabrthel, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Wow, first mistake... I'm not a follower of Rand, don't like her philosophy and think it's fundamentally flawed. Go figure! Perhaps if you had called me a Von Mises, then I'd respect you. Also, I know you're not directly calling me a republican, but just to clear things up... I think politics inherently lead to oppression, and don't throw my vote behind anyone.
Second mistake... "if only governments taxed oil to make it economically viable... blah blah blah". If you would look at the implicit subsidies that govt's give oil... by say... the first gulf war and the current war in Iraq, and state that we needed to stop meddling in other countries by installing puppet regimes and invading them, then I'd respect you. After all, the only reason we got in the first war with Iraq was because they attacked Kuwait, a monarchy that was selling oil to the U.S. at preferential prices.
And... I think we should stop using up so much of our natural resources on earth... after all they're limited and we owe it to future generations to save them. I propose we tax all metals mined on earth and give the proceeds to space companies that mine metal from asteroids! Yeah! If we only did that then we'd be preparing for the future, man! Stupid republicans! That sounds crazy because it is... and the only reason why people fool themselves into thinking restructuring the tax structure to encourage the kind of investment you support is somehow different, is that those investments can either already make it in the free market or are only a few years/decades from being viable. Besides, who gets to determine what's good for society? I guess that's why we elect emperor-presidents... so that they can decide for us. - Iztikeit, on 08/25/2008, -0/+1Genetically modifying things at present is ignorant and should not be done on a industrial scale.
- jabrthel, on 08/26/2008, -0/+1Oh, yeah, let's get douchebag republicans out of the way! Yes! And if once they're out of political power they're still being uppity and causing problems... we can put 'em all in concentration camps! If that becomes too expensive, we can just go ahead and use their body-parts to replace ours and run our cars off their burning fat, the ultimate renewable resource! Ohh... mein kampf.
Anyways, divisiveness is good. Verbal sparring is good. Heated debate is good. All that, at the very least, forces all sides to think. - inactive, on 08/24/2008, -0/+1Agreed, I got 5 1/2 inches of rain yesterday from Fay. No shortage here today.
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