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- GodAImighty, on 06/24/2009, -3/+194I'm not sure what the big deal is. This is standard flight procedure and ticketing usually automatically assigns seats in a particular pattern to ensure balance is maintained.
- cersad, on 06/24/2009, -3/+181Haha if you're dumb enough to leave a plane just for a simple balancing rearrangement you deserve to have wasted your time. It's as normal as bumping passengers from a flight to get the plane under a weight limit.
Maybe the laws of physics scare these people. - theberlindoctor, on 06/24/2009, -2/+145"Passengers leave plane after fearing basic physics."
- mrpunman, on 06/24/2009, -9/+121Those who left realized the gravity of the situation there
- robosexy, on 06/23/2009, -9/+106Captain: er, we need a few of you to sit closer up front...and one of you to hold the door closed, cause the lock sometimes slips...by the way does anyone have duct t... Where you all going?
- dime5150, on 06/24/2009, -0/+71Classic overraction. Everyone just get's a whole bit of stupid when they walk into an airport.
This IS standard procedure. I worked for a small airline and pre 9/11 when planes would go out empty and the airline wouldn't care, we would have to have people sit all in the front or all in the back depending. Not once did anyone get up and protest or refuse to fly. Some people get pissed because it's not their special "seat" but for balance it had to be done. - sb66, on 06/24/2009, -5/+66Retarded idiots deserved to miss their flight. Its not like asked them to help duct tape the wings on.
- protogenxl, on 06/24/2009, -0/+59They do this on Commuter planes Every Flight! In fact if they don't, that's when you run off the plane.
- ifruit, on 06/24/2009, -3/+44It was definitely a weight off their shoulders.
- ArthorBearing, on 06/24/2009, -2/+43...but it's good to lighten up the discussion every now and then
- milkmage, on 06/24/2009, -0/+36but that's to distribute empty vs. occupied, and they assume that the cargo is evenly distributed as well. In this case one of the cargo doors was jammed so they had to compensate by moving people around.
send all 71 of those people back to bone-head high school physics. - MuadDave, on 06/24/2009, -1/+36Wimps.
Flights in and out of St. Thomas (before they extended the runway) were hair-raising.
They would make you check all your baggage so they could weigh it and adjust the plane's weight and balance just so.
They put just enough fuel in the plane to make St. Croix for refueling, which is only 35 miles away.
When the plane taxied out to the runway, they actually backed the plane to the absolute end of the runway with the back wheels on the very edge of the pavement and the tail hanging over sand and lizards.
When it was time to go, the pilot would wind the turbines _tight_ and let rip a classic full-flap short runway takeoff. Oh, and they had to bank away from a large hill just after they rotated off the runway.
Landings were cool, too, depending on the wind direction. They'd come in as slow as practical, and it felt like they landed with the brakes already locked. After massive deceleration, they'd turn left on to a taxiway right at the end of the runway. Out the left window, just past the wing you could see the beginning of a mountain that you would've hit if the plane went more than 50 feet farther. - shoover, on 06/24/2009, -1/+34This happens *all* the time, just most airlines are smart enough not to tell the passengers, obviously.
- TobiasParker, on 06/24/2009, -4/+34Heavy, there's that word again. Is there something wrong with Earth's gravitational field in the future?
- inactive, on 06/24/2009, -1/+29Why is this news? I've had this happen three times. If the plane isn't very full, they have to move everyone toward the back, to get the nose up on take-off. It's NOT NEWS, and is normal.
- zyklon, on 06/24/2009, -1/+26"Passengers deny existence of gravity, stating theories cannot be proved as they are not laws and thusly should not be believed in."
- jmuh, on 06/24/2009, -0/+25Yeah, after reading the description, I was puzzled as well. I've actually had to do this on a small shuttle plane. My bigger concern, at the time, was that there was no bathroom :O
- chuckDontSurf, on 06/24/2009, -1/+25"Passengers propose 'Intelligent Falling' as an alternative theory." /onion
- ExSlashdotter, on 06/24/2009, -0/+24Is the story that they asked passengers to move to distribute the weight, or that 71 passengers left?
I only fly once a year at christmas, and I've seen them ask people to move for this reason. Just a plain old domestic flight with delta. - DreKor, on 06/24/2009, -0/+24I fly through smaller regional airports and see this happen a lot. When there are only 35 seats in a 1-2 configuration, it's easy to skew the weight distribution as everybody wants the single seat by a window. It's not a big deal.
- CdnPhoto, on 06/24/2009, -0/+22LOL,
I've had them do this on small planes. On some of the very small planes <25 people, they will ignore seat numbers completely. - WordsnCollision, on 06/23/2009, -5/+27Maybe they worried they'd have to land the plane Flintstones style.
- ZenFountain, on 06/24/2009, -0/+20The irony of course being that weight and balance is done for safety.
- LokitheComplex, on 06/24/2009, -0/+20I think that flew over their heads.
- MaxIsBored, on 06/24/2009, -0/+19These jokes are really starting to take off.
- rawnzilla, on 06/24/2009, -1/+19Shift happens.
- apackofmonkeys, on 06/24/2009, -1/+18Man, picky crowd tonight.
- powatom, on 06/24/2009, -1/+18The 'story', if you can call it that - is that there was a malfunction with a hold door, meaning luggage had to be stored in the front of the plane. It would be a story if the crew DIDN'T order people to the back of the plane and the first we heard of this was when the plane either failed to get off the gound, of plummeted straight into it.
- DiggCommando, on 06/24/2009, -0/+16I regularly travel on small propeller planes with space for 6 passengers and this is standard operating procedure. Why should it not apply to larger planes in some cases?
- FuzzyDustBall, on 06/24/2009, -1/+14I'm unsure if people felt unsafe because the they had to move or that there was a malfunction with one of the planes components. I as with most of the public have little idea of the impact a "malfunctioning" hold door has on the safety of my flight. I also don't trust an airline to not take risks with my life in order to make few extra bucks. I too might be concerned that this door may somehow open in flight and cause some other problem. Maybe its an electrical issue and in flight could short out and have some other undesired affect. Personally Id like to know that every fing coffee maker on the plane is in top working order before take off. Let alone 1 of the doors.
- drchimp, on 06/24/2009, -0/+13This isn't newsworthy to begin with, and it's even worse considering the journalist didn't even mention the make of the aircraft.
- osok, on 06/24/2009, -3/+16That is absolutely retarded.
I would feel much safer with a captan who is paying attention to stuff like this than one who is willing to risk it to keep the passengers happy.
The passengers who walked off should have forfeited their ticket, and been put on the no fly list for being mentally unstable. - Smokeydabear, on 06/24/2009, -0/+12People are idiots.
- Sogui, on 06/24/2009, -1/+13It sounded like people were also concerned about the jammed hold door. Which, at least to a lay person, seems like a cause for concern. Especially if, as the article states, the captain didn't understand and walked away.
"Hey you know that jammed door you were talking about?"
Captain: "Yea?"
"Any chance it could open at 20,000 and kill us all?"
Captain: "Huh?" *walks up to cabin to prepare for takeoff* - brendond, on 06/24/2009, -2/+13Planes are not magic pieces of equipment... you know how when you put too much junk in the trunk of your car, and the back end sinks, imagine that effect with no ground to support it. Yeah, I thought so.
- andymci, on 06/24/2009, -0/+11It's highlighting the fact that 70-some passengers were "fearing for their safety" for no good reason. *That* makes it newsworthy.
- carlrey0216, on 06/24/2009, -4/+13I guess THAT'S why I got promoted to first class...
- Yankees368, on 06/24/2009, -0/+9If you read the article, people were more concerned that the jammed cargo door was an issue, that if they could not open it, what is to stop if from UNjamming in mid-flight?
- andrewlotta, on 06/24/2009, -0/+7Good, more room for me.
- uberduger, on 06/24/2009, -0/+7I'm glad someone from Newcastle said it so I didn't seem offensive. That was my first thought when I read the description up there.
- DiggMasterJ, on 06/24/2009, -0/+7I'm sure they weighed their options carefully before leaving.
- MaxIsBored, on 06/24/2009, -0/+7I think the message that's trying to be portrayed is the fact that people don't want to fly if the hold door is malfunctioning, and that having to move was only the icing on the cake.
If the hold door opened it would drop all of their stuff, and cause serious issues to the plane's ability to fly properly, which is what that senseless quote was trying to point out. - colinnwn, on 06/24/2009, -1/+8People seem to have left not over moving around, but because the Captain could not adequately reassure the passengers the cargo door wouldn't open in flight. Their concerns are valid if it is an outwardly opening door. But if the door is inwardly opening then it is inherently safe and it is the Captain's fault they left due to his poor communication.
- Sainthax, on 06/24/2009, -1/+8Sadly the average person is too stupid to understand things even when broken down into simple terms, however I would have clearly pointed out that if there was an actual valid concern with the plane I would be the first one off of it.
- NJank, on 06/24/2009, -0/+6You want a Pepsi, PAL, you're gonna pay for it
- Sainthax, on 06/24/2009, -4/+10As a pilot...I'm laughing.
- GCXL, on 06/24/2009, -2/+8The Captain and the crew are on the same freakin plane. Do you think they would fly if their own lives were at risk?
- bdpf, on 06/24/2009, -1/+7The correct solution would be to replace or hold the plane till the cargo door could be opened and repaired.
Something was wrong with the cargo door so red tag the plane. - renanrrinaldi, on 06/24/2009, -1/+7QUACK
- giskard88, on 06/24/2009, -0/+6the whole cigar tube is pressurised, the cargo holds are not ventilated however. (one part of it is - that's where the dog and cat cages go) infact several depressurisation incidents occurred because of a crappy latch design on the DC-10 cargo door
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