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msnbc.msn.com — NEW YORK - An aircraft crashed into a high-rise apartment building on Manhattan's Upper East Side in New York City on Thursday, NBC News reported. There were conflicting reports about whether it was an airplane or a chopper
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- diggguru, on 10/12/2007, -110/+3...
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33Live Video Feed:
http://video.msn.com/v/us/msnbc.htm?g=5e1e30f2-9a98-4012-b962-60251146fc24&f=00&fg=copy - manumitx, on 10/12/2007, -80/+2http://digg.com/world_news/Devoting_themselves_to_Jesus_What_s_wrong_with_young_people_today
- neiltc13, on 10/12/2007, -62/+15Maybe MSNBC would like to report every time a building goes on fire in Iraq or Afghanistan and innocent people are killed.
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12anyone else notice that if the plane hit the 20th floor of a 50 floor building, then the picture in the article is innacurate?
there are not 30 floors above where it looks like the smoke is coming from - Aeiri, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think the impact is actually on the other side of the building, you can see the building covers some of the smoke. It's a very smoky picture to begin with, though.
- Mesach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4This link was further down the page here
http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2006/10/11/helicopter_cras.php
Still doesn't look like a 20th floor crash with 30 stories above in a 50 story building.
I realize its petty, but its something that bothers me. - ToddML, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The answer to the conundrum is that there's a hospital below those floors, so the floor numbers are off. Its the equivalent of a 50 story building, but there are only something like 30 floors of condos.
- happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -44/+17This must have been an inside job...
The photo CLEARLY indicates debris left over from a guided missile launched by the Pentagon, striking at the same time as a controlled explosion coming from within the building, timed to coincide with the crashing of a remote-controlled aircraft...
Coincidence? I think not... - sinfree, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5Please tell us you are being sarcastic.
- dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3From AP
"Christine Monaco, a New York spokeswoman for FBI, said there was indication of terrorism in the crash, but that officials "have been sent to the scene as a routine." FAA spokesman Jim Peters said all three New York City-area airports are operating normally."
Typo? Maybe... - happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+12Only the Pentagon -- using advanced extra-terrestrial technology harnessed by conservative think-tank PNAC -- could have ordered a strike of this precision and magnitude...
- happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+37@sinfree:
In 1975, the Pentagon ran clandestine simulated trials of crashing a small airplane into a random building on the Upper East Side of Manhattan -- Codename: Project Lemur.
The coordinator of the project? That's right -- Donald Rumsfeld.
Fast forward 20 years. The government issues a $2.5 billion grant to the UMBRELLA corporation. The purpose? Creating a remote controlled aircraft capable of crashing into a random building on the Upper East Side -- with Military Precision.
So in answer to your question: hell yes, I'm just joking. - tokyomonster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Fire's been put out, it seems, good news!
- Jaymoon, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Such a horrible thing to happen on this lovely WEDNESDAY morning...
- PeppaPig20, on 10/12/2007, -14/+1DUPE
- hackmyballs, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2Ok, here we go:
1. Just an accident (very unlikely, clear skies, no signs of avoiding building)
2. Deliberate but not related to terrorism (someone went postal about cheating GF)
3. Deliberate terrorism-related inner job (blame Bush, good for election day)
4. Deliberate terrorism-related outside job (blame BinLaden or Kim jong il, who's da boss)
Take your pick before the fbi and cia come cleaning the evidence and spew their propaganda - littlebylittle, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Small tremors before the BIG October Surprise when the Eisenhower Carrier Group, which set sail for Iran two days ago, arrives near Iran and gets "attacked" by Iran prompting WAR with Iran and WW-III, just like Newt wants. Everyone run for the hills!
What the hell kind of name is Newt anyway?
Group Sets Sail: http://www.smirkingchimp.com/thread/1530
It's happened before: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_of_Tonkin_Resolution - macfanboi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I always knew he was a damn terrorist!
- happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Seriously, though, anyone who's calling conspiracy already has to get their head checked.
- hawkmucci, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1New York Times article about Lidle and his plane from a month ago. very tragic indeed.
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/08/sports/baseball/08yankees.html?ex=1315368000&en=f488e3344c30a4f4&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss - aristotle1990, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2This is probably Bush's fault. The jets were ordered to STAND DOWN on 10/11.
- idonthack, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@happyfappy
"UMBRELLA corporation"
Oh *****! Zombies! - KSava, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Actually, I was in Manhattan and it was raining, but I'm not sure how long ago it started, but it was probably an accident. One way it happened:
It started raining and the helicopter (tourist plane?) needed to land, but somehow got caught in something and crash. End of story, no terrorism. - Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Just for fun...
Today's date: 10/11/06
Drop the 0 in the year: 10/11/6
Flip horizontally: 6/11/01
Prepare yourselves!
Flip vertically: 9/11/01
=-P
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33Live Video Feed:
- procdaddy, on 10/12/2007, -44/+3damn, beat me to it. crazy stuff though.
- ccheath, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6beat a lot of people to it as well
help bury all the dupes
http://digg.com/search?s=plane+new+york - television, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5shutup.
- ccheath, on 10/12/2007, -13/+6beat a lot of people to it as well
- wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -168/+21Bet this building will not fall due to fuel heat and any surrounding buildings will not fall in sympathy like they did in 9/11. Seriously though, this raises issues about the fuel burning hot and weakening the structure theory.
- dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -22/+95***** you. This is no time to inject conspiracy theorys.
- thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -12/+47@wibblewibble
How the hell do you figure that?
How many stories was this building and HOW MANY stories were there on the WTC?
Pull your head out of your ass. - sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -9/+46You're trying to rationalize with an irrational person. It's a waste of time.
- CamZak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+47This is about the same as a car crashing into a building and starting fire...this is a small airplane traveling at small speeds with aircraft fuel. 9/11 was a huge airplane, going at about twice the speed loaded with jet fuel.
- jonj, on 10/12/2007, -5/+37hey moron, a small plane or a helicopter carries a lot less fuel than an intercontinental jumbo jet
- oakj423, on 10/12/2007, -19/+2and if i right was this guy complaining about fuel burning hot? well if it burns cold...tell someone about it, or build a new engine.
- masamunecyrus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+42I think what people fail to realize are the following two obvious points:
1.) Steel beams to not need to melt in order for the unimaginablly massive tons of weight that they're holding up to crush them. They just need to heat up enough to sacrifice some of their structural integrity.
2.) When 400 tons of metal crash into a steel beam at ~300-400 mph, it WILL cause damage to that beam. The beams holding up the WTCs were not invulnerable to the harsh reality of physics. When you take a beam, damage it, and then heat it up, and when said beam has tons and tons and tons of weight on top of it, it's going to fail. And when a building that large starts to fail, the massive pressure forces that act upon it cause it to actually implode -- the building is sucking itself into the ground.
That said, I believe jonj said it correctly when he stated, "hey moron, a small plane or a helicopter carries a lot less fuel than an intercontinental jumbo jet" - roosterjm2k2, on 10/12/2007, -14/+9The reason the wtc fell was because of heat, and another huge contributing factor.
It was the way the building was built. It was built lighter than most buildings. Instead of big I-Beams across the floors, there were big "tabs" kinda along the edges. The floors were big plates of steel. All that had to weaken was the tabs. Once they did, a level (big slab of steel) fell on the one below, which would already be weakened by the heat....so it falls, this happens a few times, then even unheated ones collapse. Thats whey it fell so perfectly down and not sideways, the motion of the floors falling out of the tabs would have been linear and downward...
This was more than likely nothing more than an accident. It isnt that uncommon for idiots to want to be daredevils and fly though a city...much like basejumpers and such.
Even though its illegal, they think "i know what im doing, its safe" then stuff happens. - cbbspike, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2@masamunecyrus and roosterjm2k2
Oh thank you... finally someone understands.
I love when "theorist" with a high school physics class knowledge tells me about physics. They are proud to show you the melting points of metal and think they are so cool because they have figured everything out and the other people are just stupid for not realizing this. - happyfappy, on 10/12/2007, -7/+29Nostradamus predicted this:
In the year 2006
A little plane
Being operated by ninja-monkeys
Will crash
Into a building
And people will ***** their pants
For no reason
Marmalade - Jugalator, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2"Marmalade"
Now that's a really gruesome symbolism to the victims!
- thenativeraver, on 10/12/2007, -17/+7I bet that part of town is going to be on lockdown.
- positron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why are people digging that comment down? That part of town, in fact, HAS been put on lockdown.
- cuzican, on 10/12/2007, -26/+21why did my blood start boiling when i heard this?????
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -8/+53Umm, actually, that's because you're standing in a blast furnace. I would suggest getting out of it
- tokyomonster, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29Because you jumped to a conclusion.
"A U.S. official told Reuters there was no reason to believe the incident was terrorism-related." - NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24Were you on the 20th floor of the building?
- IEatHamburgers, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5My blood ain't boiling - the building had apartments that went for more than a million dollars, so it's a building for the rich, and I hate the rich like Al Qaida hates--- wait a minute
- geminitojanus, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"Because you jumped to a conclusion."
Or maybe it's because there's no law that says small aircraft can't fly around Manhattan except around the airspace of Laguardia, especially after 9/11. - cuzican, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1you don't think i know i jumped to a conclusion.. that isn't the point of the message.. but your like a genius since you figured that out..
- Pointley, on 10/12/2007, -21/+3Why does the article say Thursday?
- dustedbunny, on 10/12/2007, -17/+3It's been corrected.
- scauer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9Bush proably planned the crash for Thursday and the pilot screwed up and did it a day early.
- happyMac, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7digg now tells you what happened tomorrow!
- willjasen, on 10/12/2007, -21/+6If you read it carefully, it states that the aircraft crashed on Thursday. So either NYC is in a time warp or somebody messed up.
- AllnightChemist, on 10/12/2007, -16/+32I'm in Midtown and somebody messed up.
Everything that's happening now is happening now... - AllnightChemist, on 10/12/2007, -8/+30What's with the digging down? Am I not in Midtown?
- piper999, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17No - you weren't supposed to send your comment until Thursday. Obviously something's out of synch here.
Seriously - keep posting if you can see anything newsworthy... - AllnightChemist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8From http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,219921,00.html
"The crash set off a raging fire that sent a pillar of gray smoke over the city, police said. Witnesses reported seeing a gigantic fireball come out of the building, police said."
I will say this: From 53rd Street you can hardly see the smoke.
That's all I can report from here. - Cl1mh4224rd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Everything that's happening now is happening now..."
Ahhh...
Colonel Sandurz: Now. You're looking at now, sir. Everything that happens now is happening now.
Dark Helmet: What hapened to then?
Colonel Sandurz: We passed then.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now. We're at now now.
Dark Helmet: Go back to then.
Colonel Sandurz: When?
Dark Helmet: Now!
Colonel Sandurz: Now?
Dark Helmet: Now!
Colonel Sandurz: I can't.
Dark Helmet: Why?
Colonel Sandurz: We missed it.
Dark Helmet: When?
Colonel Sandurz: Just now.
Dark Helmet: When will then be now?
Colonel Sandurz: Soon.
- AllnightChemist, on 10/12/2007, -16/+32I'm in Midtown and somebody messed up.
- eLau, on 10/12/2007, -12/+50Planes are becoming magnetic to buildings on the 11th day of any month. :
- positron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+810-11-6
Spin it 180'
9-11-01
Coincidence certainly, but still spooky coincidence. - hotsake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I wonder how many nuts are going to discover that for themselves and truly believe something is amiss. Oi!
- Bullislander05, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ positron
A coincidence can be made from anything.
Just like all those words having 11 letters in them thing. There are a LOT of words with 11 letters in them.
I personally would add suicide to the possible reasons for its happening. You never know. Not one person on Digg knows what position Lidle was in after the Yankees lost to the Tigers. So don't tell me I'm crazy. You never know. Anyone can commit suicide for any reason. It doesn't even have to be good. Just keep that in mind. - anvilon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Bullislander
Second vote for suicide here. A quick perusal of news stories about this guy says that he just finished a crappy baseball season and the sports media was thrashing him about it.
Time will tell...
- positron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+810-11-6
- dshPls, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11New image of smoke across the skyline http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2006/images/10/11/newt1.1500.plane.cnn.jpg
- NSMike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Man... I'll bet some New Yorkers are getting a serious case of the chills from that scene.
- greedonever, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Actually no us NYers aren't. The general feeling around town seems to be. This is the 4th big building hit by a plane in NYC. Call us if anything exciting happens.
- willjasen, on 10/12/2007, -28/+1Maybe the creators of Lost are playing with are heads...
- neiltc13, on 10/12/2007, -29/+2Korea?
- dustedbunny, on 10/12/2007, -14/+7I just hope that there isn't any serious injuries and they contain the fire being reported. It's too soon for anyone to stary spewing theories or blaming this on terrorists. It's being reported that it was a small aircraft so I doubt this building it going to collapse.
CNN, ABC, all the outlets are now reporting on this. I wish I could get to a television at work to see more about this.- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26No serious injuries? I'm no genius but I think if you fly your helicopter into a building you're probably pretty dead.
- ohgr, on 10/12/2007, -16/+7I'm watching it on tv right now. I just came in from the store, and there it is. My first thoughts: Terrorist Attack.
I know I know, I don't want to support the conspiracy nuts out there, but I can't help but wonder it myself right now. 10/11, 3:11 PM NYC Time.. .. kind fo weird - dustedbunny, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15**no serious injuries to anyone who might have been in the apartment buildings. Sorry.
- DisgruntledGurl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3So far, I'm only hearing one fatality from CNN, which is unfortunate.
But let's be realistic here. It's not the first time aircraft having hit a building. With the acception of 9/11, its not always terrorist related.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26No serious injuries? I'm no genius but I think if you fly your helicopter into a building you're probably pretty dead.
- ohgr, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4Jesus it didn't take long for this to hit the frontpage.
- cecplex, on 10/12/2007, -19/+6Every channel in New York is reporting this....
- centic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19..couldn't imagine why
- Supafly, on 10/12/2007, -5/+30Google Maps satellite view of building reported to have been hit: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&q=525+E.+72nd+St,+New+York,+NY&ie=UTF8&z=19&ll=40.766498,-73.952553&spn=0.001708,0.005107&t=k&om=1
- pbaehr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+26At least now NYC firefighters/police have no doubt recieved tons of training on how to handle a situation like this.
- hotsake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It certainly seems so. From all the articles I've read the response was as quick as it could have been.
- jonj, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5any eyewitness accounts yet?
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Let's not even start with the conspiracy theories. We know nothing at all about what's going on, so don't even start it.
It was probably an accident. Let's leave 9/11 out of this.- Diabolickungfu, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4It was a helicopter that hit a building which was located right by a helipad. Seems like a pretty typical flying accident.
- satori3000, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5they're saying that the helicopter report is not correct, that it is a fixed wing aircraft. they can't make up their mind which it is right now.
- drpeppper, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4didnt know accidents were typical.
- Diabolickungfu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Flying accidents are incredibly common. Small planes and helicopters crash all the time.
- u2wedge, on 10/12/2007, -34/+10For what it's worth, today is 10/11.
- oakj423, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27and tomorrow will be 10/12
- armbar, on 10/12/2007, -2/+20...and the day after tomorrow is *gasp* Friday the 13th!!!
- IEatHamburgers, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Planes crashing mysteriously?!?
Snow in the Midwest in early October?!?
DAY AFTER TOMORROW is FRIDAY THE 13TH?!?
AAAAAHHHHHH WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE IN A FREAK ICE AGE
START HEADING FOR NICARAGUA
[/random conspiracy theory]
- techweenie1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22It's a small aircraft by the way...not a commercial airliner
- Ozdachs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2... maybe. at 12:57 Pacific time the live radio reports are still going from helicopter to private plane to blatant speculation that it could be larger because initial reports from 9/11 said the first impact was of a small plane.
- hotsake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Larger? Feh. Look at any of the pictures and the scorch marks denote a small craft of whatever sort.
- ohgr, on 10/12/2007, -8/+22News Flash: Just confirmed, it's a helicopter that crashed from technical difficulties
- ohgr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ok now they're saying it was a Single Engine Plane.. make up your minds please.
- jrex, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3The radio here in ohio just said helicopter.
- domainnameless, on 10/12/2007, -26/+2Oh No!!!! Its 10/11!
- domainnameless, on 10/12/2007, -16/+0I think I'm on pace to be dug down more than wibblewibble... which is what I was going for.
- rcktwnmad, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Oh great. This is going to give General Aviation a GREAT image, on top of what uneducated people alright think about light aircraft.
- Metalcastr, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2I also hope that no one was killed. Now, let's try to find somone to blame this on.
- sporktek, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I think the current word is that this isn't beleived to be 'terror related'.
- tysonkad, on 10/12/2007, -48/+2Watch the movie Loose Change. Documentary on what really happened on 9/11. Sorry if this comment is out of place, but this movie needs to be seen by as many people as possible, hold screenings, show everyone.
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -22/+12Yes, it's out of place because this has nothing to do with terrorism
Loose Change is total *****. Get over it. Why do you people believe a *****, inaccurate documentary? THINK FOR YOURSELVES!!!
http://www.lolloosechange.co.nr/
That link should explain how inaccurate the documentary is - Tenlow, on 10/12/2007, -7/+15You're right. It does need to be seen by as many people as possible. I see it as a basic intelegence and comprehension test. If you believe any of it, you're a moron. If not, you're an educated intelligent person.
- Lord_oftheTrons, on 10/12/2007, -8/+8Loose Change is hardly what I would call a "documentary". So that show that aired on Fox claiming we never went to the moon was a "documentary" as well?
- bUND, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5Umm no.
- hinkbot, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5you're an idiot.
- feylanks, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8no one with half a brain is going to believe a word of loose change for one second. no one needs your fairy tales or your flawed information and logic. stop making a mockery of yourself and 9/11 but most of all STOP SPREADING ***** AS TRUTH, YOU IDIOTS
- sundancekid503, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Loose change is absolute *****. I don't see how anyone with a handfull of brain cells left could beleive the ridiculous assumptions made by that "documentary".
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -22/+12Yes, it's out of place because this has nothing to do with terrorism
- wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -23/+4I pray for the residents of the surrounding buildings that may collapse in sympathy just as WTC7 did.
If I was in a neighbouring building I would get the heck out just in case. Check who took out insurance and owns your buildings.- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4This is a small incident. No buildings are going to collapse.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4This is a small incident. No buildings are going to collapse.
- wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -15/+5Stock markets falling! BUY BUY BUY!
- thewaz, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3NPR and Al Jazeera say "SMALL PLANE"
- thespace, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1WTF does that mean?!??! *****
- Schda, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@thespace
It means a small plane hit the the building, not an airliner which is a big plane. He is also stating that two different media organizations, NPR and Al Jazera are reporting it as such.
- eLau, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0I don't think anyone on Digg is hoping for anyone to be hurt. But unless you are able to go there and help, the only thing we can do is sit here, think about the situation, and express our concern (whether you want to talk about terrorists or not).
- puppetj, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3It's wierd its the 11th today
- oakj423, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11and tomorrow is the 12th
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13A 1 in 31 chance of it being the 11th.
- blosto, on 10/12/2007, -4/+27And 10/11/06 is 9/11/01 upside down ZOMG.
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Actually it's 90/11/01
- kwojniak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@blosto - you made my day :)
- MobbyG, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"And 10/11/06 is 9/11/01 upside down ZOMG."
That's gonna be like the Lincoln/Kennedy thing. Conspiracy freaks are gonna go off their nut. Cool...
- Chebyshev, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Start up the fear mill.
- mr_cheese28, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14I am at a college near the Portland International Airport, where there is an air national guard base, and 5 mins after seeing the story on msnbc, I could hear 2 F-15 fighter jets taking off, I just hope it was a coincidence.
- ZennZero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Very possibly not. They will scramble to be on the safe side. That is what they are there for.
- Ozdachs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2KGO radio reports that fighters have been scrambled nationwide to fly air patrol over cities. FBI still saying it wasn't terrorism, and NORAD is reported to say that doesn't see any suspicious aircraft activity either.
- IHaveIssues, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2They say it's a helicopter.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13The FAA has stated it's a fixed wing aircraft, not a helicopter. Just announced on TV as I typed this.
Also a body was found between two cars. - b0wl0fud0n, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3@sockpuppets
it's now reported there are two bodies...which were found on the ground underneath the wheel chassis of the aircraft.
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13The FAA has stated it's a fixed wing aircraft, not a helicopter. Just announced on TV as I typed this.
- yujie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3http://www.gothamist.com/archives/2006/10/11/helicopter_cras.php
- oneiroi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hurray for gothamist.
While I was searching on the internet through CNN, Reuters, Google News...they had the most information up the fastest, with pictures.
- oneiroi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hurray for gothamist.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -14/+6I've seen two choppers go down in the east river since working in the financial district (almost 2 years). Certainly not too surprising to hear one hits a building. A little scary since it's only 7 blocks away from the high-rise luxury apartment building I reside in.
- Pic0, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3You live there too?
- schabrat14, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5"only 7 blocks away from the high-rise luxury apartment building I reside in" lmfao wtf?!
- SuperGhost, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6oh... you had to throw luxury in eh? Well my ghetto apartment in Compton-like California is where I am staying.
- angelp, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6@schabrat - I had the same reaction when I read that. Only a certified jackass would type that.
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1Just saying, my building is pretty much the same exact type of building (I copied and pasted from an article) as the one hit.. only a few blocks north. I, by no means, live in luxury.. the people paying $20,000/mo for apartments above me probably do, though.
- harrisonpowers, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1luxury, heh
- drpeppper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6yea thats just 2 streets away from where i parked my lambo with the pre-release of my PS3 in the trunk.
- benshariff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I have a better view from my cardboard box around the corner from starbucks.
- wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -15/+2One New Dorker eyewitness said on the news it was a 4 seater plane (because she counted the seats I'm sure and is an expert on planes).
They are playing up the "expensive" "diplomat" "apartments" "extremely saught after apartments" on the news to add DRAMA, how snobbish can one get? Thats worthless ***** now isnt it (unless you took out insurance before the crash :) )
That just confirms Americans are so materilistic and wanting to be "part" of something and have a "connection" to an event.- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Or it just means our media sucks.
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5there are cheap apartments in Manhattan?
- gharding, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Well, saying "apartments" was relevant. A residential apartment building is usually pretty empty on a weekday, as opposed to an office building.
@Lumiras:
The cheapest one I found had a shower in the kitchen and the toilet outside of the apartment. $700/mo, I think. - greedonever, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@gharding. Can you send me that listing? It's an awesome bargain. :)
- KSettes, on 10/12/2007, -8/+37This is clearly a failure of the Clinton Administration.
- ZennZero, on 10/12/2007, -13/+5Digg is really going downhill. You can't swing a cat anymore without hitting an out-of-work ABC political drama writer.
- IamTheProfessor, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14Absolutely. If Clinton had just put in better aircraft regulations this would never have happened. And Clinton is to blame for the bad batteries in my laptop too.
- tokyomonster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Zenn, I believe he was using a tactic commonly employed by many people, known as "sarcasm"
- ZennZero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@tokyomonster
Sar...ca...sa..m? What is this thing you speak of?
PS - I wasn't serious either.
- IamTheProfessor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Let's just hope and pray for those living in the building. Don't let anger and paranoia cloud the reality that lives are likely lost in this tragic accident (from what we know so far).
You can start your conspiracy theories when the situation warrants it, and currently, it does not. - stuclach, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5I really wish someone would mention that it occured on the 11th.
- wibblewibble, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1You just did :)
- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -5/+3yes, I'm sure terrorists are really into making their attacks occour exactly a month apart.
Also, this doesn't have anything to do with terrorism whatsoever, and it appears that they have things under control
- FishPoisonCon, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3yes! i was waiting for an excuse to leave work early. 9-11 flashbacks!
- speel, on 10/12/2007, -13/+3Woot I can see it from my window
- ToddML, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1same.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1are you in the same room?
- Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9According to BBC and ABC News and to the Aviation people (sorry for the name not being full) but it was a Fixed Wing Aircraft (Small Plane). Not a helicopter.
This is also backed by eye-witnesses, the plane was described as doing 'acrobatics' before leveling out and going into the building. - blosto, on 10/12/2007, -12/+9And guess which news outlet was the first to mention terrorism?!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,219921,00.html
"Whether anyone was injured was not known, and it was unclear if the crash was an act of terrorism."
:)
Anyone who immediately thinks of terrorism during these events like this is a brainwashed goon.- Lumiras, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7A plane crashes into a building after 9/11, it's impossible to not think about terrorism, brainwashed goon or not
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'm currently in a Manhattan office building 20 blocks away from the crash site, and as soon as this news broke, terrorism was the first word out of everyone's mouth. I hate Fox News, but when a plane crashes into a high rise in Manhattan, it's the first thing that pops to mind. Probably just a drunken helicopter pilot or something, but it's a perfectly reasonable thing to speculate about.
- mikelikespie, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Does thinking of people thinking it was terrorism count? :)
That's what I thought. "Damn, those people are going to blame it on terrorism" - toneii, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Intertesting that when Paul Wellstone's plane went down there was not a thought devoted to the idea that it may have been terrorism.
- jooks, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3omg it was north korea
quick get some troops over there killing people! - IamTheProfessor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Anyone else noticing the morons trying to get on camera?
- JasonHilton, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Why the hell was this taken off the homepage?
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3It's still there, Forrest.
- JasonHilton, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1It's back now, it was gone.
- bUND, on 10/12/2007, -11/+3Any truth to the rumor that Howard Stern cut a fart so big that the plane instantly crashed?
- EricCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -20/+5The South Tower in the WTC complex had a fire that spread to 3 floors out of 110 floors. As we all know, that tower collapsed.
This building is 50 stories tall, 2 floors are on fire. Proportionally there are more floors on fire in this building than in the South Tower during 9/11. What happens if this building does not collapse? What does that say about 9/11? I'm not into conspiracy theories but if this building does not collapse, I believe it proves that a fire can not bring down a building.
What do you guys think?- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10I think you're mentally ill.
- Linh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6it proves the buildings are build differently.
- IamTheProfessor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6You have to take into account the massive size and amount of fuel that is associated with a commerical airplane. If you work the proportions of fuel in that huge airliner to a tiny aircraft, you'll see that there is no way this fire could bring temperatures high enough to 'melt the infrastruture' of this building.
However, WTC towers were built to take impact from aircraft, I doubt this apt building was built with that much strength. - Konrad9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I think this plane holds a fraction of a percentage of the fuel that a commercial 7x7 holds.
- MarkCiccone, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3If this building does not collapse we've got some questions that need to be answered. World Trade Center 7 collapsed and an airplane did not crash into it.
- Beaver6813, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Well lets see... oh yes it was an huge airliner going into the WTC and what went into that building.. eerm... ah yes a small plane. There is a difference. I'm not saying that a small plane going into a building is not to be ignored.
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5I think you're an idiot. These are two buildings with totally different architectural plans, made of different materials, that are encountering totally different types of impact. There's a world of difference between a fully-fueled passenger jet striking a building, and one errant helicopter.
"if this building does not collapse, I believe it proves that a fire can not bring down a building."
So if you shoot one idiot conspiracy theorist with a shotgun, and he dies, and then you shoot another idiot conspiracy theorist with a pistol, and he lives -- that means that gunfire can't bring down an idiot conspiracy theorist? - griz, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2The plane that crashed into the WTC was a jumbo jet carrying a whole lot more fuel than a small plane. That fuel was the main cause of structural failure due to heat.
- Chrysalid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Makes sense otherwise, but bear in mind that this is not the appriopriate place for WTC conspiracy discussion and that this building was not hit by a 50-ton airliner with tonnes of kerosene jet fuel in it.
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I think the fact that fire has never brought down a building like that before or since 9/11 pretty well demonstrates that fire can not bring down a (similar) building.
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@evilTak - Name one other example from world history in which a building the size of the World Trade Center was exposed to hundreds of pounds of burning jet fuel.
- Popdmb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Building was built in the late 80's. Keep your misguided conspirary theories to yourself.
- evilTak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Gerz1219
There have been multiple instances of buildings having 10 and 20 floors completely engulfed for many hours with hotter flames than were present at WTC 1 or 2. None of them collapsed.
Examples: 1 Meridian Plaza, 1 New York Plaza, First Interstate Bank LA, Caracas Tower, ... - hotsake, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Neg, Eric..... Considering all fires have already been extinguished. *shakes head*
- sockpuppets, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10I think you're mentally ill.
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