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- inactive, on 09/26/2008, -3/+8As usual he sounds perfectly sensible. The Zionists have everyone all stirred up wagging their tongues about something they know little or nothing about.
- inactive, on 09/26/2008, -3/+8FTA:
“They (Zionists) don't allow anyone to freely discuss the historical events that happened. They just say this is our account of history, this is what happened and everybody else must just accept it,” said Ahmadinejad.
Larry King then asked the president if, from his point of view, the Holocaust did not happen.
“No, what I am saying is let more research be done," Ahmedinejad said.
"There is a claim about the extent of the calamity. There are people who agree with it and people who disagree. Some totally deny and some completely agree with the whole given account. What we are saying is that an impartial group should be formed to conduct an independent study on the extent of the calamity.”
I'm sure the early Jewish Holocaust investigators, let alone, the European and American ones, who have seen their work taken out of context, corrupted, and used to fuel the multi-billion dollar Holocaust industry would agree. In Germany or Canada, doubting the Holocaust industry version of that event is a crime. In America, it's likely to make you the subject of a product disparagement lawsuit. - inactive, on 09/26/2008, -2/+5I have a suggestion. Go to the Yad Vashem website (www.yadvashem.org.il/), the Simon Wiesenthal Center website (www.wiesenthal.com) and the Buchenwald memorial website (www.buchenwald.de/) for starters. Then go to a library look into The War Against the Jews (Dawidowitz), The Holocaust (Gilbert). There are lots of books out there for a person to get hold of.
- brightlight4, on 09/26/2008, -1/+4
Ahmedinejad replied saying that the Israeli regime would disappear in the same way as apartheid South Africa and the Soviet Union.
“The solution that we are proposing is a humanitarian one. What we say is that a free referendum must be held in the Palestinian territories, allowing the Palestinian people to determine their own fate," Ahmadinejad said. - brightlight4, on 09/26/2008, -1/+4What happened to the Jews in the past has NOTHING to do with what they are doing now to the Palestinians, they are making no attempt whatsoever to find a peaceful solution and that only causes the attacks on Israel which causes a vicious circle of anger and more killing by one side and the other, so why not just sit down and do as Ahmedinejad suggests and FIND A SOLUTION through a free referendum where the Palestinians decide their own fate.
- inactive, on 09/26/2008, -2/+4bernk1 ~ I took your repsonse that way. Is that not what you meant? Or are you trying to deverit the topic again?
As I stated above "...however people like my relatives still have answered questions themselves and would like to put that to rest to. Are they not entitled to that?"
You never answered the question? I guess you will not? And if your not going to answer that then don't reply to my post at all and keep going off topic. Just keep that to yourself. Thank you - inactive, on 09/26/2008, -3/+4Hello bernk1 - again ~ Don't start me with me. I, myself have lost some of my relatives in the Holocaust as well and some lived though the experience. So - don't get bent out out of shape by being smart and suggesting books to read.
BTW: the ones who lived through it- welcome the idea of an independent study on the extent of the Holocaust. I understand that many feel the issue should be laid to rest and all, however people like my relatives still have answered questions themselves and would like to put that to rest to. Are they not entitled to that?
- So what would be wrong with an Independent study that could help people such as my relatives have some closure? Nothing! They deserve peace and closure.
You should try to have some compassion and understanding of the ones who did live through it and want an independent study instead of being insensitive about it! They deserve better than that. Enough said bernk1 - inactive, on 09/26/2008, -3/+4It is already documented that Wiesel's tall tales about Germans making soap out of Jews and about having seen bars of soap labeled "Pure Jewish Soap" are lies. His stories about the earth rumbling and shooting geisers of blood 40 feet into the air are obviously false. His stories of raping German women and surviving six gas chamber exceutions are unlikely and his description of how a gas chamber would function is impossible. Even Deborah Lipstadt has said Wiesel has dishonored the Holocaust by telling preposterously embellished tales.
- inactive, on 09/26/2008, -3/+4911 - USNavy asked for suggestions for independent study on the extent of the holocaust. I wrote the following(and this is the complete quote): "I have a suggestion. Go to the Yad Vashem website (www.yadvashem.org.il/), the Simon Wiesenthal Center website (www.wiesenthal.com) and the Buchenwald memorial website (www.buchenwald.de/) for starters. Then go to a library look into The War Against the Jews (Dawidowitz), The Holocaust (Gilbert). There are lots of books out there for a person to get hold of."
And you reply "So you don't believe in having independent experts study the matter? Go look up elie Weisel's lies and you'll see why it matters."
Independent experts study everything all the time. What are you on about me not believing in independent experts study the matter? Where do you come to that conclusion? Elie Weisel's lies? Yeah, what would he know about the holocaust. He only survived a concentration camp. - inactive, on 09/26/2008, -1/+2bernk1 - I am glad to know that I took that as a mistake. I got my feathers ruffled at the fact that I thought you were being smart - I take you for your word that you did not mean it that way. Thank you for that. Not so much for me - but my relatives and that is where my sensitives were.
Bernk1 - Now come one. We hardly agree for the most part in our point of views, which that is OK too. However, I would have never said such a thing, if I did not.
However I never said my relatives were Jewish, they are not. They are Orthodox Christan's they got caught up in it too. The rest of my family was able to leave before the doors closed, they were not so lucky.
As I am sure you are extremely knowledgeable and better educated in this area of history than me, (and I don't mean that in a mean way at all - I have avoided knowing all the facts and details as it is a hard painful era that affected all of the world, including myself mainly because seeing the pain, silence and shear terror that it has brought to my Great Uncle and Aunt, they don't talk much about it, its extremely painful area of their lives and their sensitive about it) that there were Christians and Jewish people that were involved in the Holocaust. They were in the Poland Camp. - inactive, on 09/26/2008, -4/+5So you don't believe in having independent experts study the matter? Go look up elie Weisel's lies and you'll see why it matters.
- inactive, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1Navy - I really did make the suggestion in good faith. Yad Vashem has a lot of resources relating to the non-Jews that were murdered in the holocaust also.
I don't degrade anybody's murders. The Nazis were anti-Christian also.
I have a friend who used to be a nun whose parents were Polish nationalists in the underground. They were in Auschwitz too.
The unique thing about Jews in the holocaust is that the Nazis were out to exterminate them, for their blood, not for their beliefs. Third generation converts to Christianity went to the camps too for being Jews. If one of your grandparents ever was a Jew, that made you a Jew.
As for Elie Wiesel, keep in mind that he is a novelist for the most part. - Lawofnations, on 09/27/2008, -0/+1Ahmedinejad for president! Oh wait, never mind, he's already a president.
- inactive, on 09/26/2008, -3/+4"What we are saying is that an impartial group should be formed to conduct an independent study on the extent of the calamity.” Unfortunately I don't know that there is one. Any suggestions?
- inactive, on 09/26/2008, -2/+1"Wiesel has dishonored the Holocaust by telling preposterously embellished tales."
I know there's a joke in there, somewhere. - inactive, on 09/26/2008, -2/+1USN - I was giving you an honest suggestion. That you would take it as an insult was a mistake. "Or are you trying to deverit the topic again?" - I do not know what deverit means and couldn't find it in any dictionary. Please explain.
"You never answered the question? I guess you will not?" You wrote: "BTW: the ones who lived through it- welcome the idea of an independent study on the extent of the Holocaust. I understand that many feel the issue should be laid to rest and all, however people like my relatives still have answered questions themselves and would like to put that to rest to. Are they not entitled to that?" Here's the answer.
The holocaust will never be put to rest, nor should it be. Of course survivors are entitled to an independent study on the extent.
What an idiotic question. But you have your answer.
I don't know what you got upset about. Perhaps there's too much yin in your diet and not enough yang.
Did you honestly have Jewish relatives in the holocaust? - inactive, on 09/26/2008, -4/+2USN - what's with all the "sensitivity" and "compassion" stuff you're on about these days?
You asked for suggestions for independent study on the extent of the holocaust. I wrote the following(and this is the complete quote): "I have a suggestion. Go to the Yad Vashem website (www.yadvashem.org.il/), the Simon Wiesenthal Center website (www.wiesenthal.com) and the Buchenwald memorial website (www.buchenwald.de/) for starters. Then go to a library look into The War Against the Jews (Dawidowitz), The Holocaust (Gilbert). There are lots of books out there for a person to get hold of."
And your response is "... don't get bent out out of shape by being smart and suggesting books to read."
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