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Adults drive 14-year-old to suicide by harassing her on MySpace
stcharlesjournal.stltoday.com — No charges will be filed. A tragic story.
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- dimmerswitch, on 11/15/2007, -13/+370That's truly f**ked up.
- Dokument, on 11/14/2007, -28/+34Is it me or are parents completely out of touch with the younger generation, and the younger generation far to "grown up" in their thoughts and actions. I mean I can think back to when i was that young and never once did the thought of suicide come into my head. Thankfully i wasn't depressed like this girl, or brought up in a bad situation, but even then, I think that parents need to be more informed on their childs online activity, and limit that. These parents heavily monitored the myspace activity, but even then look what happened. Myspace is set to only allow people over 13 for a reason, and even then thats too young. The internet is truly the most corruptive thing on this planet.
- nepawoods, on 11/15/2007, -3/+140"The internet is truly the most corruptive thing on this planet."
The internet isn't to blame for a morally sick and depraved mother stooping to what that woman did to trick her daughters ex-friend.- Dokument, on 11/14/2007, -9/+15true, and it is people that put those things on the internet.
- theMurdocVolta, on 11/14/2007, -48/+19***** OWNED!
Digg me down, she ***** killed herself over mean messages on myspace, boo ***** hoo.
Life is full of mean people, who will say mean things. - anachronaut, on 11/14/2007, -2/+13"Life is full of mean people, who will say mean things."
Yes, that is quite true as you have just so aptly demonstrated. Generally speaking, the mean ones are deficient in some respect, and they're just striking out at others so that they can get a quick fix and feel better about themselves (in the short term). Instead of building themselves up, they'll choose the easy, cowardly path of tearing others down. It's pretty pathetic, really, that they can't do any better with the amazing brain that nature has given them. But that's humanity, and being mean is childishly simple; anyone can do it.
Welcome to my blocklist. Enjoy your stay among the rest of the jerks and trolls.
BTW: I'd have replied to you directly instead of replying to Dokument's comment, but Digg is being a piece of ***** lately and won't let me. - ScottyMcBaggs, on 11/14/2007, -1/+10MurdocVolta: I'm guessing you're not a 13 year old girl with weight issues and braces.
- Jorin, on 11/14/2007, -1/+4I thought video games were the most corruptive form of media. No, wait, that's movies. no.., wait, sorry again. Rock albums? No. Damn, this is a tricky one... Jazz. Yes, definitely jazz. No, not jazz... It must be novels. Yes, novels. We can't have young women reading romantic novels,can we? They might end up... masturbating! And then they would no longer enjoying their husbands! After all, how can any man compete with such fantasies? Women should be protected from reading these subversive stories. Such was the attitude in the late 18th century. Anyway, my point is, new mediums are always blamed for the ways malicious people use them. Ultimately everyone has a choice how they use the internet, and these people made a very sick and depraved choice. The laws must be changed.
- theMurdocVolta, on 11/14/2007, -48/+19***** OWNED!
- nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -3/+28Not that I would ever recommend doing anything with the information, but it is amazing what public information you can find just sitting at your desk.
go to: http://www.saintcharlescounty.org/desktopdefault.a ...
click on 'advanced search'
in 'property city' dropdown, select Dardenne Prairie
in 'property street name', enter "waterford crystal"
click search
there are 55 results, ten per page. The Meiers' property is on 4th page.
Then, From the article:
"It was Tina, a real estate agent, who helped the other family purchase their home on the same block 2½ years ago."
That would be early 2005. Go to: http://assessor.sccmo.org/assessor/index.php?optio ...
enter WATERFORD CRYSTAL DR as street name, Dardenne Prairie as city, and select sale dates between 2004-11-13 and 2005-11-13 (between 2 and 3 years ago). Click search. 3 results:
BEASLEY BYRON E & BEASLEY ALLISON B 286 WATERFORD CRYSTAL DR
DREW CURT D & DREW LORI J 269 WATERFORD CRYSTAL DR
FLEMING-WESSELMANN RENEE M 294 WATERFORD CRYSTAL DR
Now, if you go by this: http://primaryreason.blogspot.com/2007/11/outrage_ ... , it's narrowed down to one of those three.
And http://whitepages.addresses.com/white_pages.php has the phone number listed.- madamme, on 11/14/2007, -0/+11According to the Digg article, you list can be narrowed down to 2 choices, not 1. The single mother was not the one who created the MySpace to taunt Megan. According to the article, "The single mother, for this story, requested that her name not be used. She said her daughter, who had carpooled with the family that was involved in creating the phony MySpace account"
The single mother's daughter did send one message, but she was not the person who started the account. - nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9From http://primaryreason.blogspot.com/2007/11/outrage_ ... :
"I checked Google Maps. A satellite photo shows that they are, in fact, merely 4-5 houses down. Which is precisely what Megan's mother said during a Fox News interview with Megyn Kelly this afternoon." - hollowex, on 11/14/2007, -3/+1 http://www.myspace.com/whatswrongwithparents
- madamme, on 11/14/2007, -0/+11According to the Digg article, you list can be narrowed down to 2 choices, not 1. The single mother was not the one who created the MySpace to taunt Megan. According to the article, "The single mother, for this story, requested that her name not be used. She said her daughter, who had carpooled with the family that was involved in creating the phony MySpace account"
- howitzeral, on 11/14/2007, -4/+3That's encouraging vigilantism and you know it. Two wrongs don't make a right.
- nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6"Two wrongs don't make a right."
Yes, experience has taught me that. I am now conducting experiments involving three, four and five wrongs.
- nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6"Two wrongs don't make a right."
- Dokument, on 11/14/2007, -9/+15true, and it is people that put those things on the internet.
- sinrtb, on 11/15/2007, -1/+46From the article it seemed like the parents were very vigilant. In fact they were much more vigilant then most of the parents out there. I think that was the most troubling bit of the article, the fact that the parents did everything they could to monitor their child's online activity.
- norman619, on 11/14/2007, -1/+16Things weren't that bad for you then. Sucide among kids isn't new. It's tragic but don't try to make it sound like more kids are doing it. things are being covered now that weren't be covered in the past. It makes it look like things are worse today.
- LeeSoong, on 11/14/2007, -41/+7"DARWIN WINS!"
Flawless Victory - New Round....
I hear Japan has a bad case of the self-destructing young people too...
How is it that two ''advanced'' Western Cultures
like the USA and Japan suffer such lack of moral fiber ?
Basic teachings in Love, Family, Christianity, Buddha, Nature, or Common Sense should prevent such occurrences.- roodammy44, on 11/14/2007, -2/+3You're part of the problem, not the solution.
- ProducedRaw, on 11/14/2007, -2/+20Reminds me of "guns don't kill people, people do". Lets not get caught up in sensationalism and blame this on myspace or the internet when in reality it was a very immature adult behind it.
- bluezinc, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Immature? That's far too light a term for this woman. Sadistic, now that's more appropriate. Sadistic ***** terrible person who, if there was a Hell, should be burning in it's deepest circle.
- cyb3rdemon, on 11/14/2007, -4/+1No. Never. People's privacy and freedom of speech should not be violated just because of age. I don't care what euphemism you call it ("being informed"), it is spying, a violation of privacy, and just plain wrong. By 12 years, people should have their own life. Damn ageist.
- nepawoods, on 11/15/2007, -3/+140"The internet is truly the most corruptive thing on this planet."
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -5/+39I wish these people could live a long life where everday was a day full of more pain than the parents of that girl feel. That's just well beyond ***** up.
- musicpyrite, on 11/14/2007, -6/+29You're allowed to say the word "*****" here, we're all big boys and girls.
- Encephalon1, on 11/14/2007, -4/+8It's so ***** it's just beyond ***** up.
- HydrogenOxide, on 11/14/2007, -29/+3This may be ***** up to the highest calibur of *****, but IT WAS BOTH MEGAN AND THE FAMILIES FAULT. SHE DIED DAYS BEFORE HER 14TH BIRTHDAY, MYSPACE RULES CLEARLY STATE THAT YOU MUST BE FOURTEEN OR OLDER IN ORDER TO JOIN, THEREFORE SHE WAS BREAKING RULES JUST BY JOINING.
- jasonlion54, on 11/14/2007, -1/+18Sure, you got T-Boned by a semi going 90 mph and are now paralyzed, but you were going 47 in a 45 at the time thus breaking the law, so the collision was YOUR FAULT!
I don't think I agree with your logic.- ShrimpCrackers, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5Actually you should be able to join MySpace at the age under 14, with parental supervision, which was what happened in this case.
- bluezinc, on 11/14/2007, -2/+8Jeez, your first reaction when hearing about a girls suicide is to point to myspace "terms and conditions" and conclude that it's all her fault? Nice soul there, buddy; I hear black is in again.
- jasonlion54, on 11/14/2007, -1/+18Sure, you got T-Boned by a semi going 90 mph and are now paralyzed, but you were going 47 in a 45 at the time thus breaking the law, so the collision was YOUR FAULT!
- GliTCH82, on 11/14/2007, -12/+1bury
- PRlME, on 11/14/2007, -2/+3yep and bad reporting was he/she trying to write a book?
- j1ggy, on 11/14/2007, -1/+6Even sadder, contrary to the posting, she wasn't even 14 yet.
- Encephalon1, on 11/14/2007, -3/+13Well, it's true that Megan broke myspace rules in registering. It's also true that her mother was complicit in this (doubtless because she thought, not unreasonably, that she could monitor Megan's activity on the site since she knew the password).
But none of this excuses, in any way, the *completely screwy behaviour* of the neighbour, an adult woman with a child of her own, who set up an account precisely in order to exploit a 13 yr old child - a child that she *knew* suffered from major depressive disorder. This was pre-meditated cruelty. I don't suppose there's a law on the books for anything like that, but horrific events like this make you wonder whether there ought to be. - Saiing, on 11/15/2007, -7/+39>It's so ***** it's just beyond ***** up.
You want ***** up? I'll give you ***** up...
Yesterday there was a story on Digg about a 14-year old kid who pranked a bunch of mp3 downloaders into thinking they'd got letters fromt he RIAA. Stupid, annoying a childish, but wait..what's that... Oh he was 14.
And yet within the first dozen or so comments the braying mob of ***** that inhabit this godforsaken place had published his address, a photo of his house and users were posting messages such as (and I quote) "I have sent him a death threat" and actually being dugg up for it.
Every single one of those pathetic little ***** that took part in that disgusting exercise deserves to be treated in EXACTLY the same way as "the family down the street". You are the lowest of the sickening low and should be banned from ever posting here again.- bluezinc, on 11/14/2007, -4/+7Word. To. That.
- ErrorS, on 11/14/2007, -8/+13Welcome to 2007.
Parent of a 14 year old, overweight girl allow her to have a MySpace account so she can talk to a 16 year old guy. "She has ADD", so they drug the hell out of her and she ends up killing herself because parents of another kid set her up to humuliate her?
Stories like this make me want to put a bullet in my own head, what the ***** is wrong with people? Not just the horrible, horrible people that tricked her.. but the parent of the girl herself. I'm sick of this ADD garbage, I'm sick of parents thinking it's OK to allow their kids to listen to rap music or to flirt with boys 3 grades higher than them over the internet with absolutely no proof of who they are..
"Is it the rap? no.. is it me giving you fast food 3 times a day? nope.. is it me allowing you to talk to whoever you want to on the internet? Nope.. is it me being a horrible ***** parent? No way! It's a chemical imbalance, here are some drugs"
Digg me down, I don't give a *****.. I bet half you ***** are on Ritalin because your parents suck.
and the parents that tricked this girl should go to prison, who in the right mind would think that is OK? Probably more Anti-depressant drugged up, fat, white, urban middle-Americans who are also raising some ***** worthless kids.- Jorin, on 11/14/2007, -2/+2I do agree with you in some cases. I don't think her parents used good judgement in even allowing her to be on myspace and participating in that kind of discussion. While kids need privacy, it should be clear that 13 year olds need not flirt with strange men over the internet. What good would come of it? A girl with that much instability and emotional trouble in her life needed more support, and I can't help but wonder about the "drug her up" approach taken by her parents. None of this, of course, excuses the malicious behaviour of the other family, but yeah... irresponsible parenting for the fail.
- round427, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4Don't even bring ADD, or medicine or whatever into this. The girl is dead, leave her alone. Justice is deserved for the "anonymous" parents who still have their lives and haven't been charged with anything.
- UnoriginalMind, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4Just don't. ADHD, which is the correct term, is real. The question is with the doctor, because it's up to the doctor to decide whether they have it or not. IF the doctor doesn't listen to the kid's life story, he can't diagnose it, because that's the only way. I have ADHD, and my parents have been great, loving, caring, and everything in between. The APA doesn't just acknowledge a disorder for nothing, there's plenty of history and evidence behind it. If it's enough for them, it's enough for me.
This may detract from the point, but I'm tired of ignorance about this. People use ADHD to flip the table and blame parents for something they don't quite understand. She may not have had ADHD, but that doesn't make it fake.
I do agree with most everything else in your comment however. They really didn't pay enough attention to her eating, or myspace even. For crying out loud, just pay attention to your kid.
- GoBack2Europe, on 11/14/2007, -5/+1This is proll teh most digutting thing i've ever fukin' read
- schmik07, on 11/14/2007, -2/+7I thought so too until recently when I read a comment that completely butchered the English language...
Oh wait...
- schmik07, on 11/14/2007, -2/+7I thought so too until recently when I read a comment that completely butchered the English language...
- AriaStar, on 11/14/2007, -4/+11What's even more ***** up is the only one facing any charges is the girl's father. He caused $1k in damage to the lawn of the people who killed his kid. The property damage is a crime, but what those freaks did to his daughter is just fine by the current law.
- jamdogg, on 11/14/2007, -3/+1damn dugg you down by accident. Whatever +1
- zoethebitch, on 11/14/2007, -1/+0story = (***** up) ** (***** up)
- stainlessjack, on 11/14/2007, -4/+1What the hell kind of school is named Immaculate Conception? And what the ***** kind of parents send their kid to a school like that?
- Dokument, on 11/14/2007, -28/+34Is it me or are parents completely out of touch with the younger generation, and the younger generation far to "grown up" in their thoughts and actions. I mean I can think back to when i was that young and never once did the thought of suicide come into my head. Thankfully i wasn't depressed like this girl, or brought up in a bad situation, but even then, I think that parents need to be more informed on their childs online activity, and limit that. These parents heavily monitored the myspace activity, but even then look what happened. Myspace is set to only allow people over 13 for a reason, and even then thats too young. The internet is truly the most corruptive thing on this planet.
- vroom101, on 11/15/2007, -14/+197good article that'll leave you speechless and upset...it's very emotional.
- vroom101, on 11/14/2007, -1/+31Remember this story?
"An IM Infatuation Turned to Romance. Then the Truth Came Out."
http://www.wired.com/print/politics/law/magazine/1 ...
via http://digg.com/world_news/An_IM_Infatuation_Turne ...- zwaldowski, on 11/14/2007, -6/+2Not nearly as sad. By a long shot.
- shinythingy, on 11/14/2007, -10/+1Clearly worked on you
- dotlizard, on 11/14/2007, -0/+19i'm actually surprised i agree with you -- i thought i was going to read yet another hysterical parent blaming the interweb for their trouble, but it's quite a bit beyond that -- a truly sick situation involving very sick people, who would have found ways to ***** with that girl whether or not they'd had a computer.
how could any adult to that to a kid, a neighborhood kid? unbelievably messed up. - OverlordXenu, on 11/14/2007, -7/+11What are you talking about? This article is full of terrible writing; I feel like I'm reading an 8th grader's book report.
- jimmick, on 11/14/2007, -2/+2True, the writing really does suck.
The story is tragic, I've seen people get really hurt because of myspace - EgaoNoGenki, on 11/14/2007, -4/+1THAT'S WHY I SHALL NEVER JOIN MICE PACE! THAT SITE IS TOO IMMATURE AND WILL CAUSE MORE HEARTBREAK THAN HAPPINESS! (Maybe I'll join if someone offers to pay off all of my student loans first.)
- vroom101, on 11/14/2007, -1/+31Remember this story?
- MikeonTV, on 11/14/2007, -12/+82This is The Great Gatsby of sob stories.
- skidme, on 11/14/2007, -37/+14Great Gatsby sucked.
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -9/+53High school is a bitch, isn't it?
- Godlike, on 11/14/2007, -4/+10Number of times someone has been told "go kill yourself" on the internet: 2,412,532,123,006. Number of times someone has actually done it: 3?
I'd say thats a pretty decent record so far. - krazykor, on 11/14/2007, -3/+3What does that have to do with The Great Gatsby? Stay on topic, *****.
- Godlike, on 11/14/2007, -4/+10Number of times someone has been told "go kill yourself" on the internet: 2,412,532,123,006. Number of times someone has actually done it: 3?
- Syric, on 11/14/2007, -2/+13Hey, speak for yourself. But I'm something of a sucker for those expatriates.
- saucedmike, on 11/14/2007, -8/+2Damn... You spoiled it for me, I just started reading it.
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -9/+53High school is a bitch, isn't it?
- Syric, on 11/14/2007, -3/+15Hard to tell what you mean by that. To some, The Great Gatsby's one of the pinnacles of American Literature. To others it's a trash heap (like skidme). It's really not one of those things you can reference as being universally understood as 'great', like Citizen Kane or something.
- physphd, on 11/14/2007, -11/+14Citizen Kane sucked.
- Kurisuku, on 11/14/2007, -10/+3I concur.
- stevealford, on 11/14/2007, -15/+2At least they were better than "The Catcher in the Rye." That was far and away the worst piece of garbage I've ever read... and it wasn't even an assignment. I'd always heard it was good, so I bought it when I was in H.S. No wonder Salinger went into hiding after writing that *****.
- Monk22, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1you must not be a sniper.
- dfarq, on 11/14/2007, -7/+3It was the best American novel ever. It makes more sense the second time you read it because you catch a lot that you missed the first time. I used to read it once a year.
- bruenig, on 11/14/2007, -2/+1By which you mean one year you read it once?
- howilearned, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1Best American novel? I think that's a matter of opinion. I do agree that it was great work and is a Great American novel - but at the top of the list? I don't know. I could give you a whole list of other great novels that will only be disputed, which will prove my point of the title "best American novel" being subjective.
- ScottyMcBaggs, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2Best american novel, IDK about that. I found the book to be boring. Thematically, it's cool... I just couldn't get into it.
- DharmaTurtle, on 11/15/2007, -1/+11984.
- onineko, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8The storyline of both The Great Gatsby and this lengthy news article share a similar 'moral', that of doing that which should not be done, and then not taking responsibility. Writing style may not be identical, but that doesn't remove the feelings one can feel while reading them.
- physphd, on 11/14/2007, -11/+14Citizen Kane sucked.
- Reno582, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2One man's wanting for acceptance, the tragic American dream, and a the silent witness to the horrors of "Fast Living". Yep the greatest book I will never read again.
- skidme, on 11/14/2007, -37/+14Great Gatsby sucked.
- ani625, on 11/15/2007, -154/+32"THE AFTERMATH IS PAIN" - i felt it yes.. for wasting 10 min for this messed up article.
- swazo, on 11/15/2007, -16/+38you're a ***** *****.
speaking as someone who lost a friend to suicide i hope you rot in hell.- aukxsona, on 11/14/2007, -16/+4...
- SethGuy, on 11/14/2007, -9/+13what? do you think this article is fake? what would you do if YOUR best friend commited suicide?
THINK before you act. - aukxsona, on 11/14/2007, -9/+14as someone who lost an uncle, a class mate, a crush, an idol, and a best friend to suicide..GO ***** YOURSELF.
- MacEnvy, on 11/14/2007, -1/+23At what point do you start thinking, "Maybe it's me?"
(Sorry, levity in a sad situation and all. We all deal with awful things in different ways. I dugg you up.)- aukxsona, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5Ah I did that years ago...and I checked...I just like depressed people. Funny tongue in cheek humour though.
- digitalutah, on 11/14/2007, -2/+1Ron White FTW!
- jmpeagle, on 11/14/2007, -4/+11oh yeah....I lost a dog, a truck, a hamster, a stuffed animal, and a long island iced tea to suicide and I say his joke is funny
- MacEnvy, on 11/14/2007, -1/+23At what point do you start thinking, "Maybe it's me?"
- CAD420, on 11/14/2007, -2/+10I believe his comment was in reference to the poor writing skills of the author. The article was very poorly written and I was often wondering who the author was speaking about in certain parts. So yes, I agree it was rather messed up and I'm sure ani625 in no way meant any disrespect towards any/all involved.
- dixta, on 11/14/2007, -2/+5Did it occur to either of you that actually putting forward a critique on the writing style of the article is just really ***** dumb given the circumstances? Why not go along to a funeral, and then say "wow, he's not a very good public speaker" after a family member reads a eulogy? Ass.
- fistikuffs, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2A eulogy is a personal speech of grief but this article is a journalistic endeavor carried out by a non-involved third party for profit. And the writing IS woeful! That is definitely secondary to the truly tragic story but who are you to say that someone can't comment on it? On the internet?
- dixta, on 11/14/2007, -2/+5Did it occur to either of you that actually putting forward a critique on the writing style of the article is just really ***** dumb given the circumstances? Why not go along to a funeral, and then say "wow, he's not a very good public speaker" after a family member reads a eulogy? Ass.
- Fordi, on 11/14/2007, -3/+6Agreed. It's very very painful to read about the tragedy of combined stupid.
- tyywebb, on 11/14/2007, -4/+3How could this happen to meeeee?
- dixta, on 11/14/2007, -4/+4Real ***** funny *****. Try losing family or friends to suicide. I've lost both.
- ICSU, on 11/14/2007, -3/+3Why can't you accept their choice? Don't be so selfish about it.
- dixta, on 11/14/2007, -4/+4Real ***** funny *****. Try losing family or friends to suicide. I've lost both.
- swazo, on 11/15/2007, -16/+38you're a ***** *****.
- nobullshit, on 11/15/2007, -57/+159worst writer ever
- jokerthief, on 11/14/2007, -3/+45Agreed, that was difficult to read.
- banmaster, on 11/14/2007, -4/+27Same here. Especially the 1st half, I had to read it twice to understand it.
- samshaikh, on 11/14/2007, -2/+21yeah you shouldn't be dugg down. i felt like a fourth grader wrote that.
- charliespopcan, on 11/14/2007, -3/+14Sorry for reiterating, but yes it was. I felt like a dumbass reading it over again, especially this one, which I still don't get:
"On the night the ambulance came for Megan, the single mother said, before it left the Meiers' house her daughter received a call. It was the woman behind the creation of the Josh Evans account. She had called to tell the girl that something had happened to Megan and advised the girl not to mention the MySpace account."- jamdogg, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3I've decoded it:
On the night the ambulance came for Megan - the woman behind the creation of the Josh Evans account - phonecalled [the single mothers house] to tell [the single mothers daughter] that something had happened to Megan. During the call she advised the girl not to mention the [false] MySpace account.
- jamdogg, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3I've decoded it:
- ieatsmurfs, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5Glad I'm not the only one.
- iChainsaw, on 11/14/2007, -11/+7Totally TL;DR. i mean, not only was the writing bad...the story fell flat. It could be summarized saying: a stupid 13 year old girl took comments on the internet to heart and killed herself. It was a tragic story.
- kbeast, on 11/14/2007, -3/+3wow do I feel relieved that I'm not the only one-- half way through I was like "Oh man, who gives a crap", the next line was she hung herself. I was half tempted to do the same.
- svander, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1Agreed. Bad writing ruined an otherwise heart wrenching article.
Still terribly sad and tragic. You just never know the effect your words have on other people; particularly those that struggle with depression and are emotionally unstable. Words can be a dangerous thing. - nonymous666, on 11/14/2007, -7/+1It's written in newspaper journalism style. Meant to get the facts across without wasting space.
- bambam630, on 11/15/2007, -6/+140I've found the street the family lives on. I wonder which ones are the neighbors...
- nepawoods, on 11/15/2007, -11/+74it would serve that family right if they fear for their lives
- Arkavus, on 11/15/2007, -6/+54If you want some ejustice you'll enter it to public knowledge. Then those responsible will be found, and they will cancel their internet before it is over. Unless they have a dog, then we're *****.
- deviouster, on 11/14/2007, -3/+17Or an alarm system ;]
- Brunas, on 11/14/2007, -5/+11Or some ***** closed curtains
- WolverineBlue, on 11/14/2007, -0/+25Or anything remotely dangerous; diggers aren't too fond of real life danger.
- jstone, on 11/14/2007, -5/+40Anonymous is legion.
Anonymous does not forget.
Anonymous does not forgive.- Mike89, on 11/14/2007, -25/+3gtfo tripfag.
- Hawking, on 11/14/2007, -10/+4*exploding van*
- iChainsaw, on 11/14/2007, -11/+1Anonymous is not your personal army...They would not raid because of a stupid newfag going an hero.
- Arkavus, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3Wrong context douche bag.
Lurk moar. - jstone, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5We shall unleash the righteous fury of anon. Their inboxes shall overflow with infinite wrath!
- Arkavus, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3Wrong context douche bag.
- xerus, on 11/14/2007, -3/+23*****. Anon hates dogs.
- jstone, on 11/14/2007, -1/+10True: A dog is the only thing that can stop internet hate machines and hackers on steroids.
- daEvan, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1Now you can't talk to them online without being eated! D:
- jstone, on 11/14/2007, -1/+10True: A dog is the only thing that can stop internet hate machines and hackers on steroids.
- nepawoods, on 11/15/2007, -1/+28go to: http://www.saintcharlescounty.org/desktopdefault.a ...
click on 'advanced search'
in 'property city' dropdown, select Dardenne Prairie
in 'property street name', enter "waterford crystal"
click search
there are 55 results, ten per page. The Meiers' property is on 4th page.- bambam630, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8Also on page 4 I believe is the Drew household...
- Arkavus, on 11/14/2007, -1/+7Yes it is the Drew's I have confirmed it.
- bambam630, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8Also on page 4 I believe is the Drew household...
- jbird71, on 11/15/2007, -1/+44Because there's no justice like angry mob justice!
- FredSpeaking, on 11/14/2007, -3/+4Meiers Residence
http://www.saintcharlescounty.org/DesktopModules/A ...- bambam630, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4Yes, but look 4-5 houses down the street. Theonly sale in April 2005 which is 2.5 years ago as the article states. The numbers 2 6 and 9.
- gringer, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3Right...
/me wonders if the St. Charles Journal would have posted that news article if they knew it would take this little time to get the names they were trying to suppress, based on the data given in the article (assuming the timing is correct). - howitzeral, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2Exactly part of the problem of vigilante justice--it's too easily misdirected. What if some of the information in the article is wrong? For instance, what if the sale was 2 years ago instead of 3? It's not like small-town newspapers are infallible, you know.
- bambam630, on 11/16/2007, -0/+1I have confirmation from classmates of the daughter plus the reporter has confirmed it's the Drews too. I'm local so I've heard more than is being published.
- gringer, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3Right...
- gringer, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5Google maps link to the street:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/2qn9q3
[It's crazy how you can do stuff like this in a couple of minutes...] - svander, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2Their homes were frighteningly close... http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&tim ...
- bambam630, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4Yes, but look 4-5 houses down the street. Theonly sale in April 2005 which is 2.5 years ago as the article states. The numbers 2 6 and 9.
- smpx, on 11/14/2007, -6/+7They got the poor girl killed using the internet, why not see some revenge happen using the internet as well?
- Pyehole, on 11/15/2007, -2/+16That's a great idea! Since stupid behavior got us into this situation, let's try and fix it with more stupid behavior!
***** genius idea, that one.
- speedwank, on 11/15/2007, -11/+178Assuming that this is true, it should go out to Reuters and/or Associated Press like NOW!.
As one commenter (on the publication website) said; "It's one thing to be 'bullied' at school, but it's another thing to have your parents do it for you". Another reader commented; "After reading this, I can only say that, like 90% of our problems, it isn't "These kids nowadays," but "These parents nowadays.""
There is a legal case to be made concerning criminal accountability here, but it may take Federal rather than local Prosecutors to bring the much needed action against the perpetrators. Why the local DA is refraining from bringing action is utterly beyond me. Why the FBI has declined to move ahead with this is baffling. The only conclusion I can draw, is that perhaps the fathead SA or AIC doesn't have any understanding of what actually happened. Ridiculous to think, but what on earth other reason could there be for responsible law enforcement not moving ahead on this?
People, please - Digg this up all the way, for once this should be on the front page. Shouts everywhere - hell shove it on Reddit and any place else it'll get read and re-broadcast elsewhere. Perhaps that will cause someone in the law enforcement hierarchy to reconsider their position in this matter, convene a Grand jury & indict these *****. (pardon my language, but I'm not retracting the epithet).
Whatever is done, it should be soon before whatever evidence there is gets tanked, and everyone experiences conveneient memory loss.- mklopez, on 11/15/2007, -3/+39Once it hits the Digg front page (and believe me, it will), then the big media outlets will pick it up. Maybe the publicity will make a difference in changing the law
- knde, on 11/14/2007, -1/+26This was #1 on Reddit earlier today ,and resulted in over 350 comments last time I checked. It'll surely blow up when it hits the front page of Digg as well.
I still can't believe that "parents" would do this to a child! One that they know and have most likely seen grow up alongside their own daughter. It's chilling. - bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -3/+4THAT is fiunny. that you think that any of hte big media outlets has EVER given a ***** about what the 0.1% of hte country may have seen on Digg.
In the grand scheme of things Digg is nothing.- GliTCH82, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5There's more to Digg than the people who have accounts here and actually comment on articles. There are far more people who just read Digg and don't have a registered account at all. Do you think the Digg effect is caused by the 1000 people that Digg a story? It's more like the 20,000 who click the link but don't care enough to sign up for a Digg account in order to Digg it.
I have no doubt that some of those people work for major news outlets, as well as writers for TV shows and other media looking for news and ideas.- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -3/+3Go ask 1000 random people on the street if they have been on Digg.com in the last week. You will be lucky if you get ONE that says yes. Ask them if they have ever HEARD of Digg.com and you will get maybe 2 that say yes.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -5/+2And by the way, what causes the slashdot effect (since there is no such thing as the digg effect) for all but the ones that hosted on $4.95 a month servers is that by the time a sotry hits hte front page of Digg, it has already been on reddit, slashdot, and several other various news sites. And each one is driving traffic to that site. It is NOT just Digg.
- GliTCH82, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5There's more to Digg than the people who have accounts here and actually comment on articles. There are far more people who just read Digg and don't have a registered account at all. Do you think the Digg effect is caused by the 1000 people that Digg a story? It's more like the 20,000 who click the link but don't care enough to sign up for a Digg account in order to Digg it.
- knde, on 11/14/2007, -1/+26This was #1 on Reddit earlier today ,and resulted in over 350 comments last time I checked. It'll surely blow up when it hits the front page of Digg as well.
- nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -12/+7Unfortunately, I doubt media will pick up the story, as it happened a year ago.
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -1/+13Was it on Digg a year ago?
- bambam630, on 11/14/2007, -1/+14No, the family just began speaking out about it, just this Sunday was the first media mention.
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -1/+13Was it on Digg a year ago?
- dfarq, on 11/15/2007, -0/+20The story was just published on Monday. It's still newsworthy. Meier's court hearing over the foosball table he and his wife smashed up and planted on the neighbors' lawn is on the docket for Thursday, so this is all far, far from over.
- bigbertha8, on 11/14/2007, -1/+22Those fu*kin people have the nerve to bring charges against them for smashing their foosball table? Scum of the earth.
- stevealford, on 11/14/2007, -17/+3It might have been a very nice foosball table, though.
You have to weigh both sides here: You lose a fat, depressed daughter who liked to have fake tans and I lose a foosball table. I think you got the better end of that deal, my friend.- nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -3/+10you're going to hell
- ICSU, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2nepawoods, watch out or Zeus will get you.
- dfarq, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10Yep, the other family pressing charges over the foosball table was one of the parts of the story I found most disturbing. That, along with the lack of remorse. "I heard at the funeral she had attempted suicide before and that made me feel less guilty."
Thursday at 1:30, if you live near St. Charles, MO and want to give moral support. You might even get a chance to see a scumbag too.
- stevealford, on 11/14/2007, -17/+3It might have been a very nice foosball table, though.
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -1/+19That family is lucky all they did was smash up some foosball table
- OverlordXenu, on 11/14/2007, -2/+7Vigilantism is not good.
- jamdogg, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2V for....
- seraph582, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3it's not meant to be. it's meant to be satisfying. There's a difference.
- OverlordXenu, on 11/14/2007, -2/+7Vigilantism is not good.
- bigbertha8, on 11/14/2007, -1/+22Those fu*kin people have the nerve to bring charges against them for smashing their foosball table? Scum of the earth.
- plat0, on 11/14/2007, -2/+15"These kids nowadays," but "These parents nowadays."
honestly? the current generation of parents with kids in high school/college are complete morons...- seanc6610, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8no, they're not. all of my friends' parents, as well as my own, are pretty intelligent people and good parents. I think it depends really heavily on location and upbringing. My parents are educated, and we live in an area where nothing really goes unknown, so they're pretty realistic people.
- Kurisuku, on 11/14/2007, -4/+5All of my friends parents are total morons, including my own, and I'm of college age, so... :|
- seanc6610, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8no, they're not. all of my friends' parents, as well as my own, are pretty intelligent people and good parents. I think it depends really heavily on location and upbringing. My parents are educated, and we live in an area where nothing really goes unknown, so they're pretty realistic people.
- wiremonkeymommy, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3look, I understand the need for revenge (I'm not sure what I'd do if that was my kid!) but hold on speedwank, I think you might be suffering from a case of premature reaction; people insult each other all the time... you can't make that 'illegal'.
- speedwank, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4I see your point, however when I commented the story had already been bouncing around in my head for a while. In fact, I made dinner and played a couple of games with my daughter before she went to sleep, THEN returned to my terminal and posted the comment. I wasn't - and am still not - advocating anything that could remotely be described as "revenge" unless one considers the "People's Prosecutor" to be an instrument of revenge.
My point was and still is this and only this; The reported event has not been addressed by law enforcement in St. Charles county at all. Now as far as we know, there's no stated reason for this inactivity. I think there should be action taken at some level, despite the offbeat reactions from almost all involved locally (parents of the dead girl, parents of the other girl involved). "Offbeat" meaning that under most circumstances people would tend to display a somewhat different series dynamic responses.
I don't think a civil lawsuit *is* the way to go. This was malicious and premeditated harassment. No one is going to argue that. Now...consider this...commit a malicious act which has deadly (or even injurious) consequences to another human being and you have erred against the best interests of society. THAT (imo) is what District Attorneys exist in order to address.
With all due respect, the very last thing I was advocating was revenge in any way shape or form. What I WAS (and still am) advocating is a redress of grievance. In this case, the "grievance" is that an adult or adults maiciously harassed a minor which either directly or indirectly led to her death. That is not only an offense against the person who was sufficiently unstable so as to have been driven to an act of final desperation, but an offense against society - and the rules of society - as a whole. Redress of said grievance means testing this in a court of criminal law. If it doesn't measure up to the standards of criminal behavior, then an attempted prosecution will fail. BUT it's better to indict and prosecute than to acquiesce and take the path of least resistance, i.e. to do nothing.
Revenge? No, absolutely not. Redressing an injudicial callous and unbelievably malicious act? Certainly! That's what we're supposed to do as a society.- Rikm, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4I don't see how this woman can't be charged under current laws. There's plenty in the books prohibiting grooming and inappropriately soliciting underage children, and there doesn't need to be any physical contact for a crime to be committed.
If it was a guy pretending to be a 16 year old boy and telling a 14 year old girl she's pretty he'd have been v& quicker than you can say Chris Hansen.
At the end of the day this was a case of an adult entering into an inappropriate and abusive relationship with a child.- johndi, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4The DA's office could find something if they wanted to. Harrassment, child abuse, or if nothing else obstruction of justice for conspiring to hide the facts. They shouldn't get off without any consequences.
- Rikm, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4I don't see how this woman can't be charged under current laws. There's plenty in the books prohibiting grooming and inappropriately soliciting underage children, and there doesn't need to be any physical contact for a crime to be committed.
- speedwank, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4I see your point, however when I commented the story had already been bouncing around in my head for a while. In fact, I made dinner and played a couple of games with my daughter before she went to sleep, THEN returned to my terminal and posted the comment. I wasn't - and am still not - advocating anything that could remotely be described as "revenge" unless one considers the "People's Prosecutor" to be an instrument of revenge.
- SomaSynth, on 11/15/2007, -7/+2If being an ***** on the internet was illegal I would be serving life. It's a tragic story, you should cry about it, but there's no criminal accountability here.
- seraph582, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1this is horrifyingly true :_(
poor ***** megan. Her parents too. I'm not letting my children on the internet without making 100% sure that they know most of what they see is going to be wrong/hateful/ignorant.
- seraph582, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1this is horrifyingly true :_(
- mklopez, on 11/15/2007, -3/+39Once it hits the Digg front page (and believe me, it will), then the big media outlets will pick it up. Maybe the publicity will make a difference in changing the law
- pedrovoltaire, on 11/15/2007, -21/+77wow... that's as depressing as it gets. God bless the Meiers & Megan. on a side note, i have many problems with religion but the one i find most reprehensible is the teaching that "if you kill yourself, you go to hell".
no you don't.- ophello, on 11/14/2007, -7/+23Amen.
- SpykerSpeed, on 11/15/2007, -17/+47Well, if you kill yourself you put everyone who was close to you in a hell-like situation. So it's an extremely selfish and stupid thing to do.
- userspacename, on 11/14/2007, -18/+11Not always.
It's a tricky gray area! - gmprunner, on 11/14/2007, -8/+27Exactly. I hardly ever feel as sorry for the person who committed suicide as I do for the person's friends and family who have to deal with it, often blame themselves, etc.
- shinythingy, on 11/14/2007, -3/+32i find its people who have never even contemplated suicide have this opinion. When you are in the state of mind to do this type of thing nothing else really comes into your mind. Trust me
- jmpeagle, on 11/14/2007, -12/+12"When you are in the state of mind to do this type of thing nothing else really comes into your mind."
tht's the definition of selfishness, they refuse to think about the feelings of others- amoirae, on 11/14/2007, -6/+5Could you be that selfish, pretty please?
- spammbunny, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9its a form of psychological temporary insanity brought on by hormones, puberty and the desire to be loved. The Josh persona initially was a positive loving presence (fake, evil) which got Megan's trust and then became a malicious monster.
- shinythingy, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2Its hardly refusal to not think about anybody else's feelings. If you knew what i meant you'd understand
- IrishKnight73, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2It's not so much a refusal to think of other's feelings as it is an inability to do so. When it gets to the point of suicide, you get psychological tunnel vision and are unable to think about how it might affect someone else. I speak from experience, as I have contemplated suicide many times, most recently last year. Occasionally, you can get moments of clarity and realize what it would do to someone else, but when you've got the knife or pills or whatnot in your hand, you really can't think about anything else.
- OverlordXenu, on 11/14/2007, -2/+10I contemplated suicide when I was a kid, but I never went through with it because I realized it would have hurt my family too much.
- tyzent, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4one of my best friends is bipolar and she has tried to commit suicide a few times in the past. for her there is no thought process, you cannot reason with her because it is not a logical thought-out decision. many who commit suicide don't weigh the good and the bad, it is a psychological disease. i know this is not always the case, sometimes it is premeditated.
- jmpeagle, on 11/14/2007, -12/+12"When you are in the state of mind to do this type of thing nothing else really comes into your mind."
- scojerroc, on 11/14/2007, -2/+13so you should go on living in agony so the people around you don't get sad? that's just stupid.
- macmankev, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8What you have to understand is that you;re thinking about this logically and rationally. Unless you reach the brink or near the brink, you will never truly understand the irrationality that suicide is. When someone is in such a dire state, the norms of logic and rationality are out the window. They may think they are acting rationally, they may think that what they are doing is actually selfless. For example, they may think that in taking their own life, they will be saving their friends and family from come grief, or protecting them from the darkness that consumes their mind. Our sane senses of logic can't apply to suicidal thoughts. And unless you truly understand the psychological processes of a suicidal person, or have been near the brink yourself, you probably will never really understand it. Back off a little and be a little more compassionate and try to be a bit more understanding. Telling a suicidal person they're being selfish is not going to help them anyways.
- jamdogg, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2Agreed but you'd be hard pressed to find "sane senses of logic" anywhere on digg
- IrishKnight73, on 11/15/2007, -0/+1Indeed.
- userspacename, on 11/14/2007, -18/+11Not always.
- xTRUMANx, on 11/14/2007, -18/+14"no you don't"
How did you reach that conclusion? Personally, I believe there is no reason for one to commit suicide. Nothing can be so bad that one should take their life cause as far as we know, this life is the only one we got. However bad one's situation is, one can never know what the future may hold and things may get a hell of a lot better sooner than one thinks.- gmprunner, on 11/14/2007, -10/+6Valid logic (at least as valid as that of the original poster), but prepare to be dugg down for not thinking the atheist way. Welcome to Digg, hombre.
- Drazzim12, on 11/14/2007, -1/+3"Atheist way" or not, I disagree that there are no rational reasons to commit suicide.
Some mentioned here: http://www.askphilosophers.org/question/1721
Although, obviously in this case, the choice of suicide was a true tragedy.
- Drazzim12, on 11/14/2007, -1/+3"Atheist way" or not, I disagree that there are no rational reasons to commit suicide.
- aukxsona, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1May you be blessed with the understanding of the "suicidal crew"... The High Priestess of the Suicidal crew....
Yes it's a ***** blessing. - Kurisuku, on 11/14/2007, -7/+4This life is the only one we get? Live it to the fullest? What kind of crap is this? This is digg, most people here are 45 and never leave their parents basement, gtfo.
- tacoSunday, on 11/14/2007, -1/+9Logic doesn't count in these cases. Suicide is not committed by persons in a rational state of mind.
- Outdoor83, on 11/14/2007, -1/+3What if I'm terminally ill with cancer? And in pain *constantly* which a morphine drip can only slightly abate? Things are *not* going to get better.
- gmprunner, on 11/14/2007, -2/+2In this case, a Christian would tell you to die the way God intended and not to kill yourself, which isn't what God intended.
- anachronaut, on 11/14/2007, -2/+4That's because the Christian god apparently gets off on the pain of cancer victims. He's a twisted *****, that Christian god. You know, a truly merciful god would be a little more understanding -- seeing as how he gave man free will and all -- but not this prick.
Sorry; religious ***** makes me angry, and the ridiculous ***** that goes hand-in-hand with Abrahamic religions practically makes me apoplectic. - IrishKnight73, on 11/15/2007, -1/+0I've never met a Christian yet who would tell someone to die the way God intended, since God never intended us to die at all. But He did give us free will, with which we chose to disregard His plan and do things our own way. Thus, we brought disease and death on ourselves as a punishment for our disobedience, more or less like a parent punishes their child, though that happens less and less nowadays.
- anachronaut, on 11/14/2007, -2/+4That's because the Christian god apparently gets off on the pain of cancer victims. He's a twisted *****, that Christian god. You know, a truly merciful god would be a little more understanding -- seeing as how he gave man free will and all -- but not this prick.
- gmprunner, on 11/14/2007, -2/+2In this case, a Christian would tell you to die the way God intended and not to kill yourself, which isn't what God intended.
- macmankev, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5You may not be able to think of a reason, but there are reasons. To the normal minded, they may not be sound reasons, they may in fact be completely bogus reasons, but you have to understand the psychological state of a person that is so consumed with depression that they become suicidal. To them it can be completely sound reasoning.
Depression in teens is a very very tricky thing as well. Certain anti-depressants actually can cause suicidal thoughts in depressed teens which then leads to suicide for some. You may think it easy to ask someone for help or tell someone about thoughts like these, but the fact is, sometimes they can't. Due to the mental state of someone depressed, they don't think in a logical sense to someone like us.
The fact is, depression and suicide are very complex topics, and there are a variety of reasons and causes. And unless you understand it psychologically, or have been there, you can't begin to understand the reasons. - pedrovoltaire, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1because hell doesn't exist. it's a fairy tale.
- gmprunner, on 11/14/2007, -10/+6Valid logic (at least as valid as that of the original poster), but prepare to be dugg down for not thinking the atheist way. Welcome to Digg, hombre.
- ashlocke, on 11/14/2007, -15/+13Digg me down, but I believe any adult who kills their self is taking the cowards way out and deserves no respect nor pity. It's selfish, and only poor attention whoring people with severe mental problems attempt it. No matter how "bad" you think your life is, there is NO reason to kill yourself. There is always someone out there living a worse life, and they're not being a bitch about it.
With that said, it is very sad to see a CHILD go like this. This child wasn't old enough to make decisions as such, and I give my deepest apologies out to her parents. I hope they can eventually find peace. "You never make it through losing a child, you just make it. One day at a time." -- ???- Gndoab, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2um...people ARE selfish with everything else...so how is this different?
- AmICoolNow, on 11/14/2007, -5/+24I agree. Depression isn't a choice.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -18/+2Depression is not a choice. But choosing to be selfish about it is.
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -2/+8You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -6/+7I do. Suicide is nothing but a coward's way out. Unless you don't touch ANYONE else's life (which I guess is true of a lot of people on Digg), it is selfish. One of my best friend's father just killed himself earlier this year. And it completely ***** her up. She went from having a bright future, with lots of friends to a near loner who is struggling in her job as an nurse.
- ne0spartan, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4My father committed suicide when I was 10, and I am enjoying a great career as a combat engineer. The Army views suicide as the chicken ***** way out, but it is just a macho bravado way to keep others from thinking about it. Only cowards commit suicide? It is selfish? I will not tell you why or how, but it is not easy for the people to commit suicide, I have been down that road, questioning you own existence is not an easy thing. How your best friend chooses to deal with the situation is her choice, how I dealt with the situation is my choice. Suicide may be the preferable way out. You don't know their situations, things look easier to deal with when you are removed and observing the situation.
- psingl8715, on 11/14/2007, -1/+0What if a prison inmate on death row decides to commit suicide to save the tax payers lots of money? I don't think that would be selfish.
It might seem improbably but only proves that suicide can be a blessing.
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -2/+8You obviously have no idea what you're talking about.
- LostnTransition, on 11/14/2007, -1/+15Yes being selfish, so Megan was selfish? When adults who should have had the forsight to go and speak to the Meiers about this weren't being selfish... No your absolutely right how DARE she get harassed how DARE!!! she be unhappy. No I think your selfish for not even trying to sympathize, I'm sure Megan's last thought was - I hope this really ***** up my family and my parents get a divorce - Excuse my language but ***** YOU
- macmankev, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5Well said.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -18/+2Depression is not a choice. But choosing to be selfish about it is.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -9/+5how do you know? Give it a try and get back to us about where you went.
- amoirae, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4You first.
- sirlancelot88, on 11/14/2007, -3/+7I can't believe that you are taking a discussion about this sad and unfortunate story and hijacking it to attack religion. Show some respect to the girl, please.
- pedrovoltaire, on 11/14/2007, -2/+1kill yourself
- YourDoom123, on 11/14/2007, -2/+2totally inappropriate comment... I'm against religion and all but that was completely unnecessary. it had nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
- pedrovoltaire, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1so... is the girl in hell or not?
- YourDoom123, on 11/14/2007, -5/+4totally inappropriate comment... I'm against religion and all but that was completely unnecessary. it had nothing to do with the topic being discussed.
- cowisgood, on 11/14/2007, -2/+2There's nothing in christianity that says you go to hell if you commit suicide, but like a previous poster said, it makes things horrible for all of your loved ones. I could never commit suicide simply because I know the pain I would cause everyone.
- pedrovoltaire, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2what really makes it awful for loved ones is being taught their daughter is in hell.
- IrishKnight73, on 11/15/2007, -0/+0As far as I'm aware, the only "Christian" group that teaches that suicide sends you straight to hell is Catholicism. I've personally come to believe that Catholicism is indeed the biggest farce ever perpetrated upon mankind, since the entire structure revolves around what the pope and the cardinals and the bishops say and that the Bible can and should be taught only by priests since they're the only ones that could possibly understand it. Us commoners couldn't even begin to get it. Every other Christian denomination that I'm aware of teaches that the death of Christ is sufficient to forgive any sin, including suicide. Suffice it to say that the Bible doesn't say that suicides go to hell automatically no matter what they believed in in life. That wouldn't be justice. But it does serve the Catholic church's need to control every aspect of its followers' lives.
- pedrovoltaire, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2what really makes it awful for loved ones is being taught their daughter is in hell.
- growlzor, on 11/14/2007, -2/+75Beyond ***** up. I'm speechless right now
- zwaldowski, on 11/14/2007, -4/+10Clearly not.
- chris9902, on 11/14/2007, -90/+30here's a solution... LOG THE ***** OFF!
I'm so sick of these stories.- doctorfungi, on 11/14/2007, -8/+16You should probably take your own advice and apply it to Digg.
- zwaldowski, on 11/14/2007, -4/+7She did. The last message before she logged off was what led to her suicide.
I'm so sick of people who don't RTFA. - clala1220, on 11/14/2007, -1/+3Then don't read them.
- volonix, on 11/14/2007, -2/+1I absolutely agree: who gives a *****. If you let this happen to you, you deserve to die.
Lie to yourself. Click the red button. But you know its true.- sheki, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2***** that. We are talking about a child with existing problems here, you idiot. On top of that, we are talking about adults manipulating her. Your parents must be dirtbag ***** to have raised you as such. Go live in the sewers.
- sbader, on 11/14/2007, -6/+14Wow, that is truly sad.
- bellapria, on 11/14/2007, -4/+3What kind of parents encourage their kids to do this stuff? That poor family
- zwaldowski, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8It was the parents.
- kbeast, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1i know, really, "His name was Josh Evans. He was 16 years old. And he was hot." -- turns out it was the family across the street.. bummer
- bellapria, on 11/14/2007, -4/+3What kind of parents encourage their kids to do this stuff? That poor family
- dagnabbit, on 11/15/2007, -3/+250What a sad, sick story. People fighting on the net is one thing. Adults setting up a false account to do nothing but torment and humiliate a young girl is disgusting. And neighbors at that.
- nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -4/+32Sick parents like that are a disease. So sad they can't be eliminated.
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -1/+28You'd think the local authorities would look into whether or not they're fit to be parents. It's kind of scary to think what they could be teaching their daughter
- yourmightyruler, on 11/14/2007, -3/+3Or castrated.
- LostnTransition, on 11/14/2007, -4/+1Castration simply doesn't seem like it is enough in this situation. And no, I am not joking this is a crime that deserves severe punishment.
- ne0spartan, on 11/14/2007, -3/+2Force them to eat my vomit, and cut off their feet and torture them for days! Cut off their ears and their tongues!
- jamdogg, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1and that makes you so much better than them.
- ne0spartan, on 11/14/2007, -3/+2Force them to eat my vomit, and cut off their feet and torture them for days! Cut off their ears and their tongues!
- alphasixtyone, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2My guess, from the police statement is that the "other people" who logged into the account was probably just her daughter. I mean, there did seem to be a dramatic shift in the content of the messages right. I would guess the daughter was in on it, but that she found out the password somehow and went to town with the comments. The mom probably didn't want to incriminate her own daughter. I find it extremely difficult to believe that an adult would have done that, especially one with her own daughter the same age. Right?
- undy242, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1Yea, more friends were invloved.
- undy242, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2Not only were they neighbors but the very family they destroyed was obviously a family they were at least acquainted to, but probably friends with - the Meier's were holding property for them they couldn't store themselves.
- nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -4/+32Sick parents like that are a disease. So sad they can't be eliminated.
- Nightlie, on 11/14/2007, -8/+22Moral of the story: myspace is hazardous not only to people eyes...but to their lives as well
- Arcotik, on 11/14/2007, -4/+5No. Moral of the story is don't kill yourself over the internet. Don't be a dimwit and think oh my god a few people are talking bad about me! My life is over at 13! Seriously. Sure, I'll be called an insensitive prick, but it isn't anyones fault but her own that she lost her life.
- Gndoab, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2If someone keeps pilings weights on your shoulders, after a while you won't be able to carry them anymore, no matter how much you want to.
Emotional weight is no different. Somehow the weight has to be lifted. - absameen, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2Depression is real. It wouldn't be so easy if you were in her shoes. She was a time bomb waiting to go off.
- Gndoab, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2If someone keeps pilings weights on your shoulders, after a while you won't be able to carry them anymore, no matter how much you want to.
- Arcotik, on 11/14/2007, -4/+5No. Moral of the story is don't kill yourself over the internet. Don't be a dimwit and think oh my god a few people are talking bad about me! My life is over at 13! Seriously. Sure, I'll be called an insensitive prick, but it isn't anyones fault but her own that she lost her life.
- whitezombie420, on 11/14/2007, -68/+21I'm not necessarily blaming the girl, more her parents i guess. but if you kill yourself because some one you've never met, that exists on the internet, you are WEAK. the parents should not have kept the girl in therapy, kids need to grow up on their own and learn to take bullying. unless you are a beautiful woman or extremely rich or powerful there is going to be someone making you feel like ***** every once in a while through out your life, thats a fact. if you can't take it you may as well off yourself because otherwise you'll go through life feeling like *****. people are dicks, live with it.
- bambam630, on 11/14/2007, -5/+45So you're saying a girl with a history of depression and who you say is weak for killing herself shouldn't have been in therapy? Yeah, you're an idiot.
- derek20cali, on 11/14/2007, -7/+28***** you.
- LostnTransition, on 11/14/2007, -1/+3You took the words right out of my mouth, thank you sir.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/14/2007, -4/+38Newsflash, douchebag: people are WEAK in all sorts of ways.
In your case, you spit on the graves of teenage girls who kill themselves.
In mine, I can't seem to forgive douchebag pieces-of-***** who spit on the graves of teenage girls who kill themselves.- xTRUMANx, on 11/14/2007, -22/+3No one spat on no ones graves. I wouldn't spit on her grave if I found it but I have no respect for those who commit suicide.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/14/2007, -1/+19Figuratively, you moron.
And people who kill themselves aren't looking for your respect (especially not yours), they're trying to end the pain of depression.
Hey, maybe if you killed yourself, I might respect you more. - aukxsona, on 11/14/2007, -1/+10I have no respect for judgemental, self righteous, indegenous pieces of trash that pretend to be so ***** strong when they really ***** aren't either.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/14/2007, -1/+19Figuratively, you moron.
- xTRUMANx, on 11/14/2007, -22/+3No one spat on no ones graves. I wouldn't spit on her grave if I found it but I have no respect for those who commit suicide.
- tesuji05, on 11/14/2007, -13/+7I somehow doubt that this would have been the last episode in her life where someone bullied her, despite it's unusual circumstances. If she couldn't take that then it would have ended up being something else later on down the line.
- schroeder, on 11/14/2007, -0/+19Many adolescents are highly emotional and unstable. If you ***** with them enough they shoot up schools or kill themselves. Therapy is a way of teaching them to deal with these emotions if they don't know how to on their own. People can be dicks and you can't always get away from that but you have to LEARN how to deal with it.
- xTRUMANx, on 11/14/2007, -14/+2There are kids in third world countries that go through far worse problems than this. Why is everyone feeling sorry for someone who brought death to themselves? Only way I would feel saddened by this story if I learned that she had some true mental disorders.
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/14/2007, -1/+9I feel sorry for you;
so dumb, yet so blissfully unaware. - androo, on 11/14/2007, -3/+6"Only way I would feel saddened by this story if I learned that she had some true mental disorders."
if only depression and ADD counted as real mental disorders... - AmICoolNow, on 11/14/2007, -1/+5Depression is a mental disorder. It's not something you choose.
- shinythingy, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2so ignorance is bliss
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -1/+4Someone should talk to some doctors and see if we can get depression and ADD acknowledged as mental disorders.
Oh, wait...too late
- RollFizzlebeef, on 11/14/2007, -1/+9I feel sorry for you;
- xTRUMANx, on 11/14/2007, -14/+2There are kids in third world countries that go through far worse problems than this. Why is everyone feeling sorry for someone who brought death to themselves? Only way I would feel saddened by this story if I learned that she had some true mental disorders.
- allan17, on 11/14/2007, -2/+6The girl was always depressed, had weight problems and ADD. You probably come from a well off family, never really worked hard a day in your life, and have never had any problems larger than figuring out where your dick is.
Go ***** yourself. - BeyondGoodNEvil, on 11/14/2007, -6/+1I blame her parents for letting her listen to rap music and getting fat. That's a parent problem. If they gave a ***** about her, they would have fed her right and not let her listen to ***** rap music. However, I think the family who did this needs a visit from the Boondock Saints.
- Chaoticfist, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2.......rap music has what to do with this again.....
- BeyondGoodNEvil, on 11/15/2007, -2/+1It has to do with her low self-esteem. No self respecting caucasian girl listens to rap music. It seems being a fat white girl and rap music don't usually equal success.
- Chaoticfist, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2.......rap music has what to do with this again.....
- KickerOfJunk, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1I happen to believe your ignorance is a weakness.
- syroncoda, on 11/15/2007, -12/+94this country is full of sick *****.
- userspacename, on 11/14/2007, -0/+33This country is not unique in that regard.
- santiago1, on 11/14/2007, -1/+28 This WORLD is full of sick *****.
Corrected that for you. - Pandalume, on 11/14/2007, -0/+10It may seem that there are more sick ***** these days than ever before, but in reality there are simply more reporters turning over rocks and letting us all know what's underneath. The slime has always been there, we've only now started shining a light on it.
- Jereso, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5*****, this took place in my town.
- Chaoticfist, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1Wish i lived there, i would have egged his house, plus spray painted ***** everywhere.
- bonk2k, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3Why does crazy ***** like this happen in or around St. Louis all the time. First the ***** up power-trip cop and now this. I love living in St. Louis, but it's embarrassing seeing it on Digg all the time for insane ***** like this.
- nepawoods, on 11/14/2007, -0/+31from article:
"She was informed that without her direct comment the newspaper would rely heavily on the police report she filed with the St. Charles County Sheriff's Department regarding the destroyed foosball table."
The foosball table incident was Nov 25th, 2006. Police reports can be requested here: http://sheriff.sccmo.org/sheriff/index.php?option= ...- catfud, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8or you can just read it in the article
- sinrtb, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8In the article the name's of the neighbors were removed, however if you request the police report you will get the full name of the neighbors.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -12/+3And if you do anything with it, YOU will be breaking the law and facing feloniy harassment.
Time to evolve *****.- johndi, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1Evidently you wouldn't be if you lived in Dardenne Prairie. After all the DA doesn't seem to think it is a problem.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -12/+3And if you do anything with it, YOU will be breaking the law and facing feloniy harassment.
- sinrtb, on 11/14/2007, -0/+8In the article the name's of the neighbors were removed, however if you request the police report you will get the full name of the neighbors.
- daEvan, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4Why are you not being dugg up more?
- bambam630, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3IIRC, someone on the Journal's comments said they requested it and they were denied as they were not an involved party.
- catfud, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8or you can just read it in the article
- lhbaker, on 11/15/2007, -2/+107I can't even think of something funny to say. If somebody did this to my daughter, I don't think I'd be able to think rationally for a long, long time.
- pintomp3, on 11/15/2007, -1/+29god bless temporary insanity.
- userspacename, on 11/14/2007, -3/+7Something funny!
- Pilot85, on 11/14/2007, -1/+15I honestly don't know what i would have done in her parents situation. I might not have stopped at property damage.
- acidbass, on 11/14/2007, -3/+6If it was my daughter, i would go insane and do something completely stupid to the ***** adults who faked the myspace account, i was ***** crying after i read this article.
- Psi57, on 11/15/2007, -0/+10I'd kill those neighbors, burn their house to the ground, and salt the remains so nothing ever grows there again.
- ne0spartan, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1I would make them feel guilty by being overly nice to them. Kill them with guilt! And combat knives!
- ICSU, on 11/14/2007, -3/+1Except her parents let her be 80 ***** kilograms at age 13, raised her so her interests are rap and boys and she had some ***** disorder that doesn't even exist outside the world full of stuck up morons.
And they still allowed her to have a my space account despite the rules!
- pintomp3, on 11/15/2007, -1/+29god bless temporary insanity.
- limezor2, on 11/14/2007, -6/+24If this had been a regular MySpaceian girl, I wouldn't have said anything, but this is outrageous.
- Alright, on 11/15/2007, -12/+233suicidal teens shouldn't have myspace accounts. no one should have a myspace account
- tesuji05, on 11/14/2007, -2/+10Very good point.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -2/+7Or Facebook.
- zwaldowski, on 11/14/2007, -2/+3Then there'd be something else.
- TheAstronomer, on 11/14/2007, -3/+1Maybe immature children should be banned. They should do an age verification like the one budtv uses...18 and over
- UnkelJethro, on 11/14/2007, -3/+1Or a Digg account.
- volonix, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1Why..? Because it would show you up for having no friends?
- AcePup, on 11/14/2007, -12/+19I have to say, I wasn't expecting this story to be so long, but it was worth the read. This is a wake up call to parents. Even though I feel criminal charges should be filed, I do feel it is also the parens fault for allowing there daughter to be there in somewhat unsupervised situations before the age of 14 as well. All and all R.I.P.
- KillSudo, on 11/14/2007, -1/+19I have to say her parents did more parenting then some parents ever will. They found out about myspace and promptly banned her from it then once she turned 14 they allowed her to have an account but only she didn't have the password. I feel truly sorry for her parents as they didn't deserve to loose a daughter they loved and cared for so much.
- LostnTransition, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5"I have to say her parents did more parenting then some parents ever will." Correction = MOST parents ever will. We need to start doing what Megan's parents did, not enough people actually pay attention to their children.
- perryjoyce, on 11/14/2007, -1/+15That's the thing. From the article, it really seems like her Mom was watching out for her, monitoring her like a good parent should. And yet, it still happened.
- SPThom, on 11/14/2007, -0/+12I disagree... I think the mom did about as perfect a job parenting her online teen as one could hope for... which is what makes the ending to this story even sadder. Neither a deadbeat nor a helicopter parent, this mom actually had a trust established with her daughter, so much so that her daughter actually asked if it was okay to be friends with this "boy". If the normal rules were to apply to this situation, I'd say the mom did a terrific job. Unfortunately, the normal rules don't apply because this was the case of a very targeted, specific harassment that no sane, rational person would expect.
- GunDownCCL, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2Hey not every 14 year old is suicidal. I am not at all holding it against the girl, but don't say that there aren't 14 year olds that can handle themselves on the net. (though no one can handle themselves on myspace; the only solution there is to not get one. Period.)
- KillSudo, on 11/14/2007, -1/+19I have to say her parents did more parenting then some parents ever will. They found out about myspace and promptly banned her from it then once she turned 14 they allowed her to have an account but only she didn't have the password. I feel truly sorry for her parents as they didn't deserve to loose a daughter they loved and cared for so much.
- yellowbox98, on 11/14/2007, -29/+12Cant she just turn her computer off? or get off myspace?
- 89vision, on 11/15/2007, -3/+73Aside from the fact that its totally ***** cruel and wrong, what kind of adult has the time to pull something like this off?
- dfarq, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6Exactly. They should have better things to do.
- acidbass, on 11/14/2007, -2/+15they dont have anything better to do,
These are the soccer moms and nascar dads that elected Bush and dont give a flying turd about anything outside the borders of the usa.- GuyeNoir, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3That's giving them way too much credit. I'd say they don't care about anything that happens beyond their own property line.
- bonk2k, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6This are the people that have high school diplomas, but have never actually graduated high school if you know what I mean. They live their kids' life like it's their own and they are often hardly more capable than their kids as well. They are everywhere and they are worse than those that do things like this on purpose because they are too goddamn stupid to know when they are doing wrong.
- Lennalf, on 11/14/2007, -21/+5I lol'ed. But then I read the article. :(
- cnot3, on 11/14/2007, -52/+9Every time a myspace emo kills his/herself, a devil gets its horns.
- Lennalf, on 11/14/2007, -2/+21RTFA. Not a myspace emo. This girl was troubled to begin with and adults deliberately ***** with her self-esteem.
- tyywebb, on 11/14/2007, -6/+2People who are "troubled to begin with" aren't allowed to become a "myspace emo?"
- Lennalf, on 11/14/2007, -2/+21RTFA. Not a myspace emo. This girl was troubled to begin with and adults deliberately ***** with her self-esteem.
- ophello, on 11/15/2007, -5/+53When I have kids, they won't be allowed to use myspace.
- catfud, on 11/14/2007, -14/+5unless you have a boy
cuz myspace = pussy- aukxsona, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6No ...actually he WON'T thanks for the heads up.
- jptolife, on 11/14/2007, -3/+13Umm sorry to break it down to you but they will. The way to prevent your kids from doing stuff is not prohibiting them from doing it but actually teaching them about them. If you totally prohibit something they WILL do it, believe me.
- AceLy, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2My parents didn't let me play with jump ropes when I was younger -- and I never did.
- ers35, on 11/14/2007, -3/+2They won't be using MySpace if the domain is blocked across my enitre network. :)
- Chaoticfist, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2There are so many easy ways to get by that..........Also if you tell someone not to do something(especially teens) they will do it.
- AceLy, on 11/14/2007, -0/+2My parents didn't let me play with jump ropes when I was younger -- and I never did.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -3/+22you have to have sex to have kids. So you are in the clear.
- ophello, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3get a life
- Ajajadude, on 11/14/2007, -0/+12I can only hope that there isn't a Myspace at that point!
- tyywebb, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9There will probably be something much worse.
- mufasa, on 11/14/2007, -1/+3emospace
- ICSU, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1can't be design wise
- tyywebb, on 11/14/2007, -0/+9There will probably be something much worse.
- catfud, on 11/14/2007, -14/+5unless you have a boy
- FireStarterBob, on 11/14/2007, -20/+9that was really long. my attention span is really short. i need a summary. an hero?
- Matt2k, on 11/14/2007, -16/+101. Girl is an illiterate *****
2. Asks for summary of articles online
3. People call her an illiterate *****
4. Suicide - dfarq, on 11/14/2007, -1/+151. Girl ends on-again/off-again friendship with another 12 year old
2. Parents of scorned friend open Myspace account posing as a hot 16-year old boy, request to be added as friend.
3. Girl gets her hopes up, talks back and forth with fake hot boy for 6 weeks
4. Parents get other sociopaths involved
5. Someone sends girl message saying he doesn't want to be friends anymore because she treats her friends badly
6. Two days of mean-spirited messages follow. Last one ends with "The world would be a better place without you."
7. Girl hangs herself in closet.
8. As ambulance is coming to get girl, parents tell one of the other participants it would be a good idea not to mention the Myspace page.
9. Another neighbor tells parents it was a hoax created by the parents of the scorned friend.
That's the gist of it.- FireStarterBob, on 11/14/2007, -2/+4Thanks. Article looked interesting, but I figured my time would be better spent reading for school.
also, that's pretty messed up = - tyywebb, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5Wow thank you that was clear and concise. I read the whole thing and still had only a vague idea of what happened.
- GuyeNoir, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3You forgot to mention the parents that created this fake profile and got the girl to kill herself are neighbors and family friends of the parents of the suicidal girl, and they knew she was suicidal.
- FireStarterBob, on 11/14/2007, -2/+4Thanks. Article looked interesting, but I figured my time would be better spent reading for school.
- xTRUMANx, on 11/14/2007, -9/+3FireStarterBob you are an illiterate *****.
/waits for article about FireStarterBob's suicide
- Matt2k, on 11/14/2007, -16/+101. Girl is an illiterate *****
- Feener, on 11/15/2007, -28/+141"As for 13-year-old Megan, of Dardenne Prairie, this is how she expressed who she was:
M is for Modern
E is for Enthusiastic
G is for Goofy
A is for Alluring
N is for Neglected."
No she didn't, she did a stupid quiz and copy and pasted the HTML to her profile. It annoys me when people think these are genuine things, like that kid who put his income at $250,000 and over, then got arrested for drug dealing and the news or whatever source I read about it from thought it was real.- UnkelJethro, on 11/15/2007, -16/+6Way to miss the point, sociopath.
- Pyehole, on 11/14/2007, -7/+4Huh?
- KampfGherkin, on 11/15/2007, -12/+12Dude, wtf!? What's your freakin point! The girl "expressed who she was"! It's not a ***** thesis she plagiarised, Mr I-know-genuine! If it's a copy-paste job hardly ***** matters. Seriously, people like you ANNOY ME as of right now. She suffered from depression and committed suicide and here you are belittling something as ***** mundane as her use of "a stupid quiz".
And the fact that this comment is getting dugg - seriously, wtf, people!
No better than those adults who created the fake account. A little ***** compassion goes a long way in this day and age.- supermajic, on 11/14/2007, -4/+3Feener on 98 vs KampfGherkin on 0
Absolute Fail. - akuma1, on 11/14/2007, -2/+4your right people like this moron are the same type of people that drove the little girl to suicide.
getting dugg???? ***** Myspace!
- supermajic, on 11/14/2007, -4/+3Feener on 98 vs KampfGherkin on 0
- dixta, on 11/15/2007, -7/+7Way to TOTALLY miss the ***** point, *****.
"OH WAIT! No, don't have any sympathy for her, she COPIED a QUIZ!!"
*****. People like you are the reason the internet sucks.- ophello, on 11/14/2007, -1/+3no, people who argue on the internet are the reason the internet sucks.
- tyywebb, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1I would have to say people who capitalize random words and start calling people names because their tender sensibilities were offended contribute much more to the internet sucking.
- absameen, on 11/15/2007, -5/+11I'll probably get buried for this, but your post doesn't deserve 100+ diggs. This is no time to whine about your pet peeves. Show some class.
- theShiba, on 11/14/2007, -0/+1I think the intent of Feener's post is to show that reporters of stories like this have no clue about myspace. They say things like "bulletins are like surveys"... and are duped into believing that online surveys people put on their pages are some kind of poetic expression about oneself.
When the police report is quoted as, "my space" the reporter (if he had any ***** clue) would label it, "my space [sic]"- lhbaker, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Which is to say, he missed the point of the article by about three feet and change.
- ryancxx, on 11/14/2007, -29/+20That was painful to read, in more than one way. A five year old can write a better article.
It was sad for the five or six paragraphs I could get through.- LostnTransition, on 11/14/2007, -6/+3Yes an article about suicide and an atrocity and your being an English Nazi...
- tyywebb, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1You're!!!!
/English Nazi- LostnTransition, on 11/24/2007, -0/+1*****
- tyywebb, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1You're!!!!
- LostnTransition, on 11/14/2007, -6/+3Yes an article about suicide and an atrocity and your being an English Nazi...
- nphase, on 11/14/2007, -17/+9I can read the headlines already:
"Responsibility. A thing of the past?"- i4ybrid, on 11/14/2007, -1/+9Read the story. Her parents cared enough to monitor their kids on the net and the only reason we know she committed suicide because of MySpace is her parents being watchful caring ones.
- nphase, on 11/14/2007, -0/+7Not the parents, the neighbors. theyre not getting charged with anything.
- sinrtb, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6dunno why you are getting dugg down. I honestly as a parent do not know how better to monitor my children on the internet then how her parents did.
- rnwen2750, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4As a young adult, I would just say educate your kids and form strong bonds with them. Then, if and when they run into trouble, they will feel comfortable approaching you and not say "I can't tell mom that - I'd get grounded for life!"
- sinrtb, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1stupid double post
- i4ybrid, on 11/14/2007, -1/+9Read the story. Her parents cared enough to monitor their kids on the net and the only reason we know she committed suicide because of MySpace is her parents being watchful caring ones.
- dxgg, on 02/05/2008, -1/+39Very sad...very scary. As a father of a "pre-teen" it hits hard.
- mrsneakypat, on 11/14/2007, -14/+9Wait, how did she hang herself and then die the next day?
- userspacename, on 11/14/2007, -2/+2Sometimes these things take time.
- Canadian0207, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3hey that's true. how was that possible?
- dfarq, on 11/14/2007, -0/+12She didn't do it right, so the injuries didn't kill her right away. Instead of dying a quick death, she died a slow, painful one.
- GliTCH82, on 11/14/2007, -2/+3God damn! Just when I thought this story couldn't possibly get any more miserable, I finally get an idea that there just may be more misery and pain associated with it than I first thought.
- WileEPeyote, on 11/14/2007, -0/+5If you are lucky (or do the calculations) hanging will snap your neck and you will die instantly. If you are unlucky there are several sad outcomes.
- darkzealot89, on 11/14/2007, -0/+6I am assuming she was not completely "successful" of hanging herself, and then died of complications the next day.
- BeyondGoodNEvil, on 11/14/2007, -0/+4It was 11:59pm
- IrishKnight73, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2Well, I get from the article that she wasn't hanging very long, so she wouldn't have had time to suffocate fully, but she probably crushed her larynx and was without oxygen to her brain for long enough that the resulting damage killed her the next day. She weighed 175 pounds, which is more than enough to crush a larynx and was only 13 years old, so her throat structures weren't as strong as they would have eventually become. Sorry to be so graphic, but I come from a family with a lot of medical professionals, and this is what I hear all day.
- lead2thehead, on 11/14/2007, -22/+8In all fairness, it doesn't take much to drive a 14 year old girl to suicide these days.
- theimmortalmoo, on 11/14/2007, -1/+0No kidding,
- ldude69, on 11/14/2007, -16/+42Sad story, but can you guys actually understand what the article's trying to say? The guy who wrote that is TERRIBLE.
- marjo15, on 11/14/2007, -7/+12Agree! The story is really sad, but the writer made us give up reading it!
- davewashere, on 11/14/2007, -5/+6This is obviously a story written by some douche who has delusions of winning all sorts of awards by writing a few thousand words about some highly emotional story. Someone needs to tell him his writing sucks, no matter how many words he can pack into a single story. Does the newspaper even have room for such a long story in their print edition? I'd like to bully him around on MySpace.
- Puppetfunk, on 11/14/2007, -10/+24I understood the whole story. Yes it wasn't written well but Atleast I'm not a pompous Douchebag elitest who acts like the article is ineligible.
- cjhandley, on 11/14/2007, -4/+13#32 offense - ineligible receiver. 5 yard penalty. The ball will be placed at the 16 yard-line. First down!
- cjhandley, on 11/14/2007, -2/+7Attn Digg: illegible != ineligible
- cjhandley, on 11/14/2007, -4/+13#32 offense - ineligible receiver. 5 yard penalty. The ball will be placed at the 16 yard-line. First down!
- WileEPeyote, on 11/14/2007, -6/+12Okay, what the hell is with all the *****-sticks who can't seem to comprehend the written word anymore?
This isn't a opinion piece dumb-asses, this is a news article. It isn't meant to be flowery, it is meant to answer the 5 W's (look it up, I'm not a journalism teacher).- IrishKnight73, on 11/15/2007, -0/+2The problem is it was mostly spelled correctly. If it had a few more WTFs and LOLs and a few URs and :-)s, it might have reached this particular audience.
- marjo15, on 11/14/2007, -7/+12Agree! The story is really sad, but the writer made us give up reading it!
- InuX, on 11/14/2007, -41/+4Why are you people feeling sorry? It's his own fault. Next Time don't create one.
- AmICoolNow, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8His?
Read the article.- InuX, on 11/14/2007, -7/+1*her
- g0dfather0, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3or at least the title...
- santaliqueur, on 11/14/2007, -1/+7HIS own fault? Seriously, read the ***** article before you troll.
- BeyondGoodNEvil, on 11/14/2007, -0/+3I laughed just cause you're so far from any sort of reasonable comment. It's like you read the wrong article or something.
- theimmortalmoo, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1damn str8...except it was a her
- AmICoolNow, on 11/14/2007, -1/+8His?
- skews13, on 11/14/2007, -19/+55are there any men out there left with a pair? if that were my daughter.i would show these people terrorism they couldn't even imagine.you don't involve the authorities in a case like is.you involve sharp metal objects
- marjo15, on 11/14/2007, -14/+17Well thats the problem. You just cant fight violence with violence, it will only make the problem worse than already is!
- perryjoyce, on 11/14/2007, -2/+17Yeah, but would anyone not believe a "temporary insanity" plea?!
- shinythingy, on 11/14/2007, -4/+18yes you can and violence wins every mother ***** time
- Xenth, on 11/14/2007, -4/+11No kidding. What world do they live in where violence does not solve problems? Leave the suburbs for just a few hours.
- marjo15, on 11/14/2007, -1/+2i know about violence more than anyone here, i live in brazil. And violence doesnt help at all!! I think u are the one who should leave your first world country for just a few hours.
- ophello, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1You, sir, fail at life if that is your philosophy.
- Xenth, on 11/14/2007, -4/+11No kidding. What world do they live in where violence does not solve problems? Leave the suburbs for just a few hours.
- OMGLINUXWOAH, on 11/14/2007, -1/+1Grow a pair. Violence is how cities come from sand and are turned to salt.
- Ender008, on 11/14/2007, -9/+10Thats where the law causes problems.
There should be a grace period for revenge... - gendjinn, on 11/14/2007, -7/+4With you 100% - I'm surprised it hadn't worked out that way already.
- mstoneburner, on 11/14/2007, -6/+15Internet tough guy: identified.
- mstoneburner, on 11/14/2007, -11/+1Internet tough guy: identified.
- WileEPeyote, on 11/15/2007, -2/+18How does getting revenge take balls? You can have balls and still be smart enough to realize that killing or hurting someone else will neither bring peace nor bring your loved one back.
- bingobongony, on 11/14/2007, -6/+11skew...just a piece of advice for future refernece...real tough guys don't talk about it. Only pussies do.
- marjo15, on 11/14/2007, -14/+17Well thats the problem. You just cant fight violence with violence, it will only make the problem worse than already is!