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- eviscero, on 12/09/2008, -37/+209Over my dead body.
- pmoshay, on 12/09/2008, -35/+197fvck your yer world 'banking' government!
- GovernmentSp00k, on 12/09/2008, -15/+169"'Peace-Keeping Force'
uh oh. You know what that means.. - Observant1, on 12/09/2008, -15/+134I like what Alex Jones has to say about it, basically that countries and borders are like bulkhead hatches on the titanic, if they were used properly that ship wouldnt have sunk. one world government is a big ship without compartments, only one hole in the hull can sink it. a small group of dictators gets the reins of global government, they wouldnt have any real opposition. very BAD idea. these same banksters and their corporations are the ones who caused this "economic crisis", are the same ones pushing global governance as a solution, we should trust them?!! they should be rewarded with more power for screwing the pooch?
they oughtta hang for the treasons committed to make this look like a 'great idea'. - StopTheLie, on 12/09/2008, -12/+129David Rockefeller at a Trilateral Commission meeting in June of 1991: "We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto determination practiced in past centuries.â€
http://joeplummer.com/chapter_4_dreaming_of_a_new_ ... - inactive, on 12/09/2008, -15/+120Ron Paul is working on a book entitled "I Tried To ***** Tell You."
- Jam37, on 12/09/2008, -41/+142WAKE UP!!!!! Get ready people!
- inactive, on 12/09/2008, -11/+91I'd prefer it to be over their dead bodies, than over yours.
- inactive, on 12/09/2008, -32/+99To sound like my usual self, "Where in the Constitution will this be allowed?"
Okay, now seriously, who is going to run the power plants, water companies, etc. that this will require? No, we'll up like China or North Korea, where only the largest of the largest cities present faux modernistism while the rest of the country is 18th Century. Case in point for this breakdown, just watch MGM's version of 1984 made in 1984 and notice everything is falling apart.
Oh, and the secret to staying alive in brainwashing is to never admit/submit to the torturers. They will never kill you, only convince you that all is over. Case in point, check out the horror stories that Mormon Republicans have be conducting for two decades on American teensagers over at www.antiwwasp.com. - GovernmentSp00k, on 12/09/2008, -6/+68Since when do the mis-leaders in power ever respect the Constitution?
- Ralphdraw3, on 12/09/2008, -4/+58WORLD-WIDE RECESSION POSSIBLE.....
- inactive, on 12/09/2008, -14/+65Wow. Even drudge is letting you in on his relatives plans now. Interesting that he chose an article with a feeling of resigned inevitability to it instead of the thousands of others that had been written during the bush administration that have been so forcefully against the idea. I didn't see him link too many stories on the Security and Prosperity Partnership.
- Indyanna, on 12/09/2008, -6/+53@joemarzen - the problem isn't with a global gov't per se. It's the people who would be in charge. How many politicians can you name who are honest, decent people? At the local level, probably quite a few. At the state level, some. At the national level, few and far between.
Why? For one thing, it's a matter of accountability. On the local level the gov't is very close to its constituents. In a small town, everybody knows the mayor, for example. If he makes an unpopular decision, or messes up, he's gonna hear about it and personally feel the heat. And it will directly affect his chances of being put into office again. The further away the politician/gov't officials are from the people, that accountability lessens.
And the other thing, it's a matter of power. If you're the mayor of a town of 30,000, you're probably not going to suffer from illusions of grandeur. However, if you're the man-in-charge of an entire continent (let's say, oh, like Vladimir Putin) it's another story altogether.
So, going back to the question of global gov't. What kind of say would somebody from Milwaukee have in the gov't that is over them? Or someone from Budapest? Or someone from Strausburg? Zero.
It's already that way here in Europe with the EU. I've lived in Hungary for 16 years. I have NO CLUE who our EU representatives are. Know why? Because they never tell us. And yet we've been bombarded by EU regulations for several years now. The new laws and regs are literally edicts that are handed down, and everybody is subject to them.
Global gov't? No, thank you. Altho I know it's coming. - mcrunch2, on 12/09/2008, -9/+51One ring to rule them all and in the darkness bind them!
One world govt. means we all get the benefits of a corrupt "dictatorship" and eventually get to live just like everyone else in a third world country, dependent on the government. - mysmartypants, on 12/09/2008, -10/+51I think I can speak for at least half of the US 300,000,000 population.
OVER MY DEAD BODY will the US submit to a world government. - eviscero, on 12/09/2008, -8/+48I appreciate that but I'd rather die than see the US Constitution completely invalidated or proxied. Europe has been trying to unite throughout history, each time, it's been soaked in an ocean of blood. What makes anyone think it won't happen again?
- CoolHandLuke70, on 12/09/2008, -6/+45There is nothing wrong with a gun except possibly the person holding it.
- kemp34, on 12/09/2008, -4/+40These people need to be confronted on what they know and what their plans have been.
- Indyanna, on 12/09/2008, -2/+37In this generation, yes. Two or three generations from now? Who knows. Just look at the majority of people on digg.
- ezekiel105, on 12/09/2008, -20/+55It's not going to happen.
1. How would we justify raping all of these lesser nations if we under the same umbrella of laws.
2. The North American Union is in a much better position to be realized. The will promote it as benefiting everyone. Canada's resources, Mexico's man power, and United States wealth.
It's like when you're on a date as a kid when you go for the home run and "settle" for 2nd base. - eviscero, on 12/09/2008, -10/+42A EU Peace-Keeping Force in America?
They'd surrender in a week and end up in the Berkeley Penal Zone. - GovernmentSp00k, on 12/09/2008, -3/+33All notes from their ultra-secret super clandestine "Bilderberg Group" orgy this year - mere months before all the "financial collapse" trillion dollar "bail out" ***** hit the fan - need to be made public too. Was that where they hatched their latest scam upon us all?
- jojopumpkin, on 12/09/2008, -6/+36"How would we justify raping all of these lesser nations if we [are] under the same umbrella of laws."
The same way we do it now. The War on Terror. A global government will undoubtedly have a resistance of some type. So if the Globalists want something they simply stir up a "resistance" then smash it for "the greater good" and take what they want by moving the local government around.
A Global Government is highly possible. It wont happen over night. We'll get to something like 10 nations to 4 nations to 3 nations to 1. It will happen quickly though using a world war that would be necessary to push borders and governments around to fit their models. - VeryBoredNow, on 12/09/2008, -6/+36He also claims that there are lizards running the government. Like real lizards.
- tman84, on 12/09/2008, -2/+32Its the whole "liberty and freedom" thing that I really cling to.
- NonLeftistDiggr, on 12/09/2008, -12/+42I don't think we have to worrry about this. The next government coming to power is not moderate. Once the people get a taste of what Obama/Pelosi/Reid yields they won't want any part of a world government taking them further down the path of discarding independence. Government health care, more bailouts, an infrastructure new new deal, on top of 6 trillion of bailouts already, 12 trillion of debt not counting bail outs, and a medicare/social security system that is going to cost 60 trillion in the next 40 or 50 years? And some how we will have room to give a world government money on top of what we give to the U.N.?
It's staggering to the point of being comical. Where is that money going to come from? Where is the money going to come from to cover what bush had done, let alone what we're being promised in the next 4 years? We supposedly generate around 15 trillion in GDP every year. So theoretically at 100% tax rate (which most people would quit working) for personal and business, it would still take 5 or 6 years to pay off what is being spent ASSUMING 15 trillion was still generated at 100% tax rate. That doens't even count what Obama is going to spend.
Seriously, government debt has always been this borderline joke which everyone ignored. With bush's spending, these bailouts, on top of our entitlement programs, and what pelosi and reid would do given a free pass; at some point in our future there is going to be either A) significant financial collapse of the U.S. government or B) unprecendented massive cuts to government scope.... and before either happens there will be significant increases to our taxes and if you add up all taxes/fees you are paying you are approaching 45-55% right now in the middle class. - Specla7k4y, on 12/09/2008, -1/+28 "Our posturings, our imagined self-importance, the delusion that we have some privileged position in the Universe:, are challenged by this point of pale light. Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves.
The Earth is the only world known so far to harbor life. There is nowhere else, at least in the near future, to which our species could migrate. Visit, yes. Settle, not yet. Like it or not, for the moment the Earth is where we make our stand.
It has been said that astronomy is a humbling and character-building experience. There is perhaps no better demonstration of the folly of human conceits than this distant image of our tiny world. To me, it underscores our responsibility to deal more kindly with one another, and to preserve and cherish the pale blue dot, the only home we've ever known."
~Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot - vickyelyse, on 12/09/2008, -3/+30Stay alive Eviscero...we need people like you.
- ciaran036, on 12/09/2008, -10/+36Planned and engineered.
- Waiting2awake, on 12/09/2008, -3/+29Problem
Reaction
Solution
Once you know it is there, you see it everywhere. - bukkwheat, on 12/09/2008, -5/+30Thomas Jefferson said something to this affect. "The tree of liberty is watered from time to time with the blood of Tyrants and patriots"
There are enough rednecks in this country that if somebody tries to pull this off, a revolution will occur. - tman84, on 12/09/2008, -3/+28You pointed out that it would be tough to get "that type of thing" going, I pointed out an example for you that presents a trial run of getting a large amount of nations to give up their sovereignty for a larger organization. Your comeback to that is "you're a conspiracy theorist". Great Job, thanks for the wonderful discussion.
- cwpeck, on 12/09/2008, -4/+29to quote the author himself: "International governance tends to be effective, only when it is anti-democratic."
I don''t know about you guys, but I'm ready to defend democracy. - ciaran036, on 12/09/2008, -2/+27And still people think we're joking when we say things like "corrupt dictatorship". The European Union has become exactly the opposite what they claimed it would be. An anti-democratic mess.
- le0pardess, on 12/09/2008, -8/+32If you thought the Immigration Bill, the Wall Street bail out or the Trans Texas Corridor were bad, just check out Senate Bill (S)2433 for yourself athttp://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/text <http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-s2433/text> ...
SENATE BILL S. 2433 THE GLOBAL POVERTY ACT
According to David Bossie, President of the group 'Citizens United for American Sovereignty', based out of Merrifield Virginia , website: http://www.citizensunited.org/ the above- mentioned Senate Bill (S. 2433) is a piece of legislation in the works that all Americans need to know about and know now!
This bill, sponsored by none other than Sen. Barack Obama, with the backing of Joe Biden on the Foreign Relations Committee, and liberal democrats in Congress, is nothing short of a massive giveaway of American wealth around the world, and a betrayal of the public trust, because, if passed, this bill would give over many aspects of our sovereignty to the United Nations.
The noble sounding name of this bill, 'The Global Poverty Act' is actually a Global Tax, payable to the United Nations, that will be required of all American taxpayers. If passed in the Senate, the House has already passed it, this bill would require the U.S. to increase our foreign aid by $65 BILLION per year, or $845 BILLION over the next 13 years! That's on top of the billions of dollars in foreign aid we already pay out!
In addition to the economic burdens this potential law would place on our precarious economy, the bill, if passed in the Senate, would also endanger our constitutionally protected rights and freedoms by obligating us to meet certain United Nations mandates.
According to Senator Obama, we should establish these United Nations' goals as benchmarks for U.S. spending. What are they?
n The creation of a U.N. International Criminal Court having the power to try and convict American citizens and soldiers without any protection from the U.S. Constitution.
n A standing United Nations Army forcing U.S. soldiers to serve under U.N. command.
n A Gun Ban on all small arms and light weapons --which would repeal our Second Amendment right to bear arms.
n The ratification of the ' Kyoto ' global warming treaty and numerous other anti-American measures.
Recently, the Senate Subcommittee on Foreign Relations (where Sen. Joe Biden sits) approved this plan by a voice vote without any discussion! Why all the secrecy? If Senators Obama and Biden are so proud of this legislation, then why don't they bring it out into the light of day and let the American people have a look at it instead of hiding it behind closed doors and sneaking it through Congress for late night votes.
It may be only a matter of time before this dangerous legislation reaches a floor vote in the full body of the Senate.
Please write or call, email your representatives, the White House, the media, or anyone you think will listen, and express your opinions regarding this Global Tax giveaway and betrayal of the American people at a time when our nation and our people are already heavily burdened with the threats to our freedoms and economic prosperity.
Please send this email to as many folks out there in your networks as you can. And ASAP - drachemorder, on 12/09/2008, -3/+27"So what if they did?"
Three words: Taxation without representation. - inactive, on 12/09/2008, -9/+33We need people like you alive. Take out the other guys (the ones in the blue helmets) first, OK?
- zzzyb, on 12/09/2008, -17/+40Yeah, get ready for cooperation and peace...
All I hear are the same arguments used during the formation of the United States. Just think, each state could still have its own leader, use its own currency, and have it's own laws (who knows, some could still have slavery). What's made the United States a rich, prosperous country COULD work for the world. Anyone who says otherwise is just a modern day Patrick Henry. - kemp34, on 12/09/2008, -5/+28The U.S. has really remained true to its limited government creed hasn't it?
- ciaran036, on 12/09/2008, -22/+45Here we go... David Icke wrote this in 1994 in his book, 'The Robots Rebellion':
"The aim of the Illuminati is the introduction of a world government to which every continent would be subordinate. It would dictate foreign policy and control the world army. Underpinning everything would be a world central bank based on the lines of the national central banks of today, and there would be one currency controlled entirely by them. It also wishes to go further and turn the people of the planet literally into robots in ways that I will highlight shortly. If you look at the world today you can see how nations are already losing the power to make decisions to giant trading blocs like the European Community and the North American Free Trade Agreement (NAFTA), and in Europe the move is towards one currency and one European Central Bank. The pieces are being moved around the board in preparation for the ‘sting’."
"The Brotherhood, manipulated by its Illuminati elite, has been working to create conflict across the world on all levels. This is going into overdrive now. They are also undermining the world economy, which they control, to destroy what remains of the confidence the population has in politicians and governments. The Brotherhood has ensured that people of limited ability, intellect and vision - puppets - have reached the top in politics, and this has had two main effects. It has made sure they were easy to manipulate by the Brotherhood ‘advisors’ behind the scenes, and their obvious lack of ability has helped to remove the credibility still further of politics and politicians. This is exactly what the plans has always been in preparations for the economic collapse they will engineer."
What he wrote about FEMA in the US has definitely rung true over the past few years:
"The plan for world domination continues apace across the planet
today as the secret armies are trained and prepared with government
funding behind fake names and fake projects. One of these in the
United States is called the Federal Emergency Management Agency
(FEMA). This has a budget of billions of dollars, and yet it wasn’t
even created under constitutional law. It is the result of a Presidential
Executive Order. In 1935, the Emergency Management Act was
passed to give the President the right to by-pass Congress and make
laws in times of national emergency. Fair enough, you might think.
Sometimes you have to act quickly when there’s an emergency. The
little point they don’t tell you is that there is always officially a state
of national emergency in the United States! This gives the President
powers to make laws whenever he wishes, and have them ready and
waiting for the time when they can all be implemented at once. You
might like to know that these executive orders passed since 1935
have given the President the power to do the following, whenever he
decides there is increased international tension or economic crisis:
To take over all transport, roads, and ports; all media; the
power industries; food production and farms; all aircraft;
relocate communities and mobilise people into work brigades
under government supervision; start a national registration
scheme.
The list goes on, and when a state of emergency is declared by the
President, Congress cannot challenge it for at least six months."
"All it takes is one major manufactured
‘crisis’, and the starting gun fires. Goodbye democracy, or what
claims to be democracy. I understand the plans for the takeover of the
United States are now well advanced."
"One possible ‘emergency’ to set off this chain of events could be that of a terrorist with a nuclear weapon, threatening to destroy the United States. Watch for such a deceit, because something like this will be used to justify the coup in its first stages, if it gets that far."
"They are using the increasing violence and conflict, the collapsing global economy and the threat to the environment - all of which they are, to a large extent, causing - to hoodwink the people into the nightmare of a world government, world central bank, world currency, world army, and global control."
And remember, David Icke is also the guy that predicted 9/11, saying it would be an inside job, and also predicted the Afghanistan and Iraq wars. Also remember that Alex Jones predicted 9/11 and even a friend of an elite banker (Nicholas Rockefeller), Aaron Russo said he thought 9/11 was an inside job too after he remembered Nicholas telling him that they would engineer an event that would have the people "looking in caves" for an enemy that didn't exist as an excuse to start war in the Middle-East (starting with Afghanistan).
More people ought to know these things! - JJ2K1, on 12/09/2008, -22/+45For some strange reason the year 2012 does seem to be a plausible doomsday year with the ***** that is going on today.
- factattack, on 12/09/2008, -5/+28One huge catastrophe--a united purpose in "reconstruction"...and it's on.
The barrel is rolling downhill and (like all things going down) we can expect positive acceleration.
It will happen fast! - le0pardess, on 12/09/2008, -2/+25Or a damn thing about the Global Patriot Act that has passed the House overwhelmingly, and is now in the Senate. It should make everyone's blood boil enough to storm every capital in each state.
- inactive, on 12/09/2008, -7/+29"Are we going to cling to this "nation state" period of human history forever?"
Yes. - inactive, on 12/09/2008, -4/+26Did they tell you that at a meeting?
- tman84, on 12/09/2008, -7/+29Yeah who could imagine 27 countries uniting and the law of that organization having more power than the individual nations rule of law? Thats just ridiculous right?
I guess it's tough to see anything with your head in the sand like that. - existing, on 12/09/2008, -1/+23le0pardess - Thanks for the info and links.
- jeremymccurdy, on 12/09/2008, -0/+22You eat some cinnamon toast crunch, have a shower, shave, and brush your teeth.
- akhomestead, on 12/09/2008, -4/+26joemarzen
Not at all, the people in charge don't care about you, they care about power and controlling you. -
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