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- schrankage, on 12/01/2008, -3/+75Except for "sad story," apparently.
- shadowspawn, on 12/01/2008, -5/+49Jeez. I don't know. Every time I take away my kids DS or ground him from the Wii when he forgets his homework at school he seems devastated, and knows what he did wrong and doesn't repeat it. I don't hit him, there's no reason for it. When they are really young yes a spank on the butt or tap on the wrist works because it's for their safety when they keep on reaching for things that can hurt them. There is no reasoning, there's only cause and effect. Heck a water bottle would work most times instead of physical hitting.
But we're talking 8 years old. I remember being in 3rd grade. Everything means so much. I hit means quite a bit, and that's why I don't hit. The DS or Wii or star wars toys, or a room grounding is usually more than enough in my eyes.
Grounding. Hrmph. I can't imagine locking away an 8yo. I can't imagine one actually understanding the concept of "death" as we do. I can't see an 8yo understanding that he was the cause of two people's lives ending, let alone what "life" means.
His mind has to be really all ***** up right now, and the worst part, for the rest of his life. Makes me sad that this wasn't caught by a teacher or friend's parents. It really does. - waxoff, on 11/30/2008, -5/+47From an earlier story it sounded like the father was unusually strict, but not necessarily abusive. The kids last spanking was for leaving his homework at school. That doesn't sound like a typical abuse case: spanking vs hitting, punishment vs random beating. I'd like to hear more facts. Either way though, it's a tragic story.
- Diggopolis, on 11/30/2008, -3/+36This is one odd story and has been mishandled from the start, between the cops screwing up and the media screwing up - it's hard to discern what the facts are in this case. Well maybe in time things will sort themselves out.
- chanop, on 12/01/2008, -1/+30I live in NY, and it's kinda sad that nobody gives a ***** about this out here.
- BoSuu, on 12/01/2008, -1/+29That killed... .
- Gunsdead, on 12/01/2008, -0/+20Released to spend Thanksgiving with his Mother. Awkward.
- Alphateam, on 12/01/2008, -9/+29We will never really know what happened. I've seen little 8 year old ***** that were ***** and always will be *****. Maybe he was one and his dad had a hard time dealing with it and the kid did need a smack every now and then. On the flip side he dad could have been the ***** that liked to smack his kid around and the kid snapped.
The media will just sensationalize this and get the best ratings they can out of a tragic story. If the did was OK before he won't be ever again. The legal system will make sure of that. - CosmoLoss, on 12/01/2008, -2/+208 Year Old Kid Offered Deal - Zapdos, Venusaur and Japanese Dragonite for your 1st Edition Charizard
On a serious note though, sad story. The kid desperately needs help from here on out. - mindpuzzle, on 11/30/2008, -7/+25Sad story. There are no words to explain this.
- inactive, on 11/30/2008, -6/+21Should have stopped at 999?
- esteskid, on 12/01/2008, -1/+16thanks Grissom
- LexMortis, on 12/01/2008, -5/+19"In Arizona, those convicted as juveniles can only be held until they turn 18. The law allows prosecutions of juveniles age 8 and above as adults."
Whoa, thats ***** up. - Nettegen, on 12/01/2008, -4/+17"Mom, can you please pass the pie?"
"You've had enough pie son."
"Bitch, I'm looking at multiple counts of 10 1/2 to 25 running CONSECUTIVELY. Now pass me the ***** pie AND that busted ass Cool Whip you bought instead of making fresh whipped cream or I'm going to go get the squirel rifle and take away the one thing you REALLY should be thankful for."
"..."
"Yams also, please." - stormofswords, on 12/01/2008, -0/+13How about deliberately pumping multiple rounds into both bodies with a slow firing, single shot, bolt action rifle?
- walrusonion, on 11/30/2008, -3/+16i live in AZ and it's kinda sad the way the media is sensationalizing this out here
- schrankage, on 12/01/2008, -2/+14i live in TX and it's kinda sad the way the media is sensationalizing this out here.
- souljaboytellem, on 12/01/2008, -3/+15Well, when you kill people....that kinda makes you a killer
- magneteye, on 12/01/2008, -2/+13I really think there is much more to this than anyone knows or is letting on. I doubt it is as black and white as he grabbed a gun and shot and killed those two men. It just doesn't seem fully feasible. There is more to this. Someone is hiding something.
- captainbethany, on 12/01/2008, -1/+12I really find it hard to believe that the kid counted up 1,000 smacks. Kids exaggerate a lot, and lie a lot. Just my two cents' worth. I agree with most of what you both said, though.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -1/+11I'll give you a playstation 3 and kool-aid if you plead guilty.
- Zippo, on 12/01/2008, -5/+15Man, what a ***** up kid... Shooting someone was the last thing my mind at 8-years-old - let alone my own father.
- deadapostle, on 12/01/2008, -1/+101000 smacks isn't "every now and then." I do agree that the media and the legal system will ***** this kid up more than his father ever did, but I have a hard time believing that the kid deserved it.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -0/+9You don't know that at all.
- penguinofspades, on 12/01/2008, -0/+9because there is noooo way an 8year old may have exaggerated the amount of spankings he received. not any less tragic, but i think we are placing a bit too much emphasis on the facts given to us by somebody who thinks he can claim something by saying that "its mine times infinity + 1!"
- Memnochxx, on 12/01/2008, -1/+9Sure he can. Says so right in the article.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -0/+8It's pretty bad when you have to have an explanation from soulja boy.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -1/+9video game violence??? come on
I'd go with the beatings to explain this one - okyourturn, on 12/01/2008, -2/+10No, it's not a typo. ***** up, eh?
- Stroggoth, on 12/01/2008, -5/+13If by atheist you mean Christian, then yes.
- okyourturn, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7...people with mustaches kill people.
- souljaboytellem, on 12/01/2008, -3/+10i live in FL and it's kinda sad the way the media is sensationalizing this out here.
- Flamekebab, on 12/01/2008, -0/+7I've met plenty of people who very much reflect their parents. I myself often notice traits about myself that I've inherited from my parents. If you've never met anyone who is like their parents then I wonder what kind of hermit-like existence you've been living!
- weslen1, on 12/01/2008, -1/+7I don't know if this little boy actually killed his father and the friend or not, but I do know that in the video I saw, in the beginning he was clearly stating he DID NOT. He said he came home from school and found them bleeding. Then about the middle of the video, the 2 female officers who are questioning him turn off the sound. The sound is off for 1 minute or longer and when the sound comes back on, he is now claiming he DID shoot his dad, that he did it because his dad was "suffering". I would definitely want to know what those officers said to him, or threatened him with, to get him to change his story so drastically between the time he denied shooting his dad and the turn around when the sound was restored AND where the "suffering" explanation really came from. I HOPE this little boy has some really GOOD representation before they implement this "DEAL".
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -6/+11I'm sorry, but a "baby" doesn't kill two adults with a rifle. Stop coddling the little *****.
- hokie47, on 12/01/2008, -3/+8The gun laws are fine. When you are a parent you should lock up your gun. I don't have any kids right now so my wife and I keep a loaded shotgun near the bedroom, but as soon as we have a kid or if any kid comes over we will lock that gun right up. See in the US we don't take away freedoms from others just because a few idiots do not know how to use those freedoms. Sure there are more deaths but that is the fault of the individual not the whole.
- Scrappy1850, on 12/01/2008, -5/+10he WAS in a loving home. this is why we cant have nice things
- Narcism, on 12/01/2008, -4/+9Barrel of diggs for you.
- adarkmethod, on 12/01/2008, -1/+6seriously, the entire family said the kid was abused, they just didnt use the word "abuse" they said his dad was "too hard"
***** that bitch, as far as I'm concerned the kid did what was right and just, shoot him again
not to mention the poorly done interogation that shouldnt have happened without representation present, the absurdity of that kid getting off all of those shots cleanly, and the fact that he's ***** 8 years old,
- the guy who had to step between the abuser and his best friends mother when he was a kid - Grazfather, on 12/01/2008, -2/+6 As long as it's not MY home.
- rabidbob, on 12/01/2008, -0/+4When you're abused as a child, yes, you are ***** up. In some cases it takes a long, long, long time to ***** yourself, if you ever manage it. Most don't. Out of all of the kids who were in the foster home with me I only know of one other who has a moderately normal life.
- inactive, on 12/01/2008, -0/+4 Pissed in their *****?
- CrazedLeper, on 12/01/2008, -8/+12If the boy warranted 1,000 spankings by the age of eight (and kept count) the father was doing society a favor. Judging from the grandmothers words, the father was within his rights. The boy is evil. Also, you are an idiot. Please don't ever raise children.
- 83457, on 12/01/2008, -0/+4If it was 18 then the word "juveniles" wouldn't make much sense now would it. They have set a cutoff of 8 year old for kids to be tried as adults. I think each state is different... I believe some have cutoffs around 12 years old for example.
- Kitakaze, on 12/01/2008, -4/+8An 8 year old "snapping" involves throwing a tantrum, screaming, possibly breaking things, and even hitting people. It does not involve keeping track of every time he gets spanked, and then in cold predetermination, executing your father (and another man, for no reason that has been explained).
That's not "snapping;" that's a little Jeffrey Dahmer in training — and quite ahead of the curve.
Some people are simply evil. Sadly, that even goes for children. - Pzycho, on 11/30/2008, -3/+7This is a much more interesting way to play deal or no deal. Unfortunately, the kid already opened the 1000 spank case.
- hasslinthehoff, on 12/01/2008, -0/+4Disturbing and sad case. And one more example of how you should keep the guns locked away and out of the reach of children, no matter how much you think they are mature enough to use them.
- d03boy, on 12/01/2008, -4/+7i live in WI and it's kinda sad the way the media is sensationalizing this out here
- BigglesPiP, on 12/01/2008, -1/+4My 1st thought was "Why are they 'bargaining' with an 8 year old, he can't possibly that responsible for his future." They are in fact bargaining with the kids lawyers. Misleading title.
- d03boy, on 12/01/2008, -4/+7i live in NE and it's kinda sad the way the media is sensationalizing this out here
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