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- atdigg, on 11/01/2007, -5/+100Where's Osama?
- Napoleone, on 11/01/2007, -4/+52Correction: So that's how much it cost TAXPAYERS for Bush to bribe AT&T, Sprint, Verizon and Cingular to break the law.
- Napoleone, on 11/01/2007, -7/+55So that's how much it cost Bush to bribe AT&T, Sprint, Verizon and Cingular to break the law.
- inactive, on 11/01/2007, -9/+55Thanks Bush voters!
- inactive, on 11/04/2007, -3/+32Why do we labor and pay taxes to a government that doesn't disclose where they spend it? This is criminal.
I'm sending more money to Ron Paul. He's promised to fix this mess. - inactive, on 11/01/2007, -2/+29That is more than Russia or Great Britain or France or China spends on defense.
They are right less often than the media is.
Shut them down, they are only useful for terrorizing our own population. - inactive, on 11/01/2007, -4/+26so, who mailed Anthrax to the Senate minority leader while they were debating the USA PATRIOT act, and killed 5 people in the process?
- iie.wakarimasen, on 11/01/2007, -1/+19so many zeros...
- rayxtime, on 11/01/2007, -1/+16"It's called the American dream, because you have to be asleep to believe it." - George Carlin
- NinjaBoy, on 11/01/2007, -2/+12TERRORIST!
- inactive, on 11/04/2007, -5/+14You're goddamn right We the People deserve to know! You ***** big government bastards need to read the goddamn Constitution and quit spewing your fearmongering about boogeymen all over the world just waiting to get us.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -3/+12How's he not being rational? Seems to me that it's more irrational to accuse someone of not being rational without really explaining yourself.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+8You do understand the concept that 180 people being spied on is 180 too many, don't you? The fact is, we're paying for these people to be spied on, and theoretically, any one of us could be selected for the government's "VIP" treatment. We are, in fact, paying the government to violate people's basic rights.
- psingl8715, on 10/31/2007, -3/+11I got a crazy idea.
Why don't we take a small portion of that intel budget and give our children medical insurrance?
Seems like it would be money well spent.
Nuff said. - johngr, on 10/31/2007, -0/+8Does that include the money they make dealing drugs?
- elipabst, on 11/01/2007, -0/+7RTFA. It's for fiscal year 2007, which was appropriated by the previous congress.
- bigjoeportagee, on 11/04/2007, -1/+7what if I told you that I had a rock that kept tigers away?
- greenm1981, on 11/01/2007, -2/+8If the goal of terrorism is to instill a pervasive and constant fear among the people targeted, I'd say we've been attacked relentlessly SINCE 9/11
- Waiting2awake, on 11/04/2007, -4/+10It can change the second they decide to stand up.....
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+6Yes, there is a minimal risk that one of those 180 people is a terrorist. But you have to understand, the risk of missing a terrorist is the price we pay for the freedom we hold so dear. Tell me, which is more dangerous? A terrorist with a bomb strapped to his chest? Or a dictatorship? I'm not about to give up everything our founding fathers fought for because I'm afraid of boogeymen from the Middle East.
- egotripping, on 10/31/2007, -0/+5So it takes 43, 500, 000, 000 to spy on 200 people?
- obobo, on 10/31/2007, -0/+5Spend billions attacking a hornets nest in the Middle East, then billions more trying to protect against the angry hornets. Good job USA.
- Smiths, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5What a sad, fearful life you must lead...
- BlacklabelSAR, on 10/31/2007, -1/+6DO you always miss the point like you did here? #1. Our government should not be spying on us. #2 We shouldn't be spending that much money on "Intel". #3 The Federal Income Tax is Unconstitutional as it is an Unapportioned tax. The Federal Income Tax makes us slaves that feed and cloth ourselves, much more efficient than slaves in shackles. The Federal Income Tax does not pay for any roads or services but instead goes to the Federal Reserve, which is neither Federal or a reserve, but is instead a group of private banks. Land of the Free?
- spawnfree, on 11/04/2007, -1/+5decent and CIA in the same sentence. hahaha o wow.
you don't know what the CIA does do you?
The CIA destroy people and governments to ensure money goes to American business interests.
There is enough evidence to suggest they are also up to their nuts in the illegal drugs trade. - drmangrum, on 11/04/2007, -1/+5If you don't work in the intelligence community, this may seem like a lot of money, but it really isn't all that absurd. This money goes to a LOT of things and many different agencies. Intel doesn't just mean the CIA. There's also DIA, NASIC, AIA, and many many more. Each has their own programs, their own people, and their own agendas. And trust me, you want it that way.
The problem is that too many people can only comprehend the idea of of Intelligence at a very rudimentary level. Once you understand the complexities you appreciate the effort the people put into it. Believe me when I say intelligence centers aren't just sitting on their laurels chewing through cash without a care.
Collections, analysis, projections, etc all take time and money. If anything, most intel centers are underpowered. - DangerCollie, on 10/31/2007, -0/+4Don't worry, they'll claim it's your fault because you didn't field a better candidate. As if that somehow justifies their support for corruption, incompetence, murder, torture, cronyism and wholesale spying on the American public. Because you supported an actual combat veteran instead of a drunken, incompetent, draft-dodging frat boy from Connecticut pretending to be a religious fighter pilot from Texas.
I mean it's just so easy to see how they'd be confused. - gjscds, on 10/31/2007, -3/+7Let's see how well I can predict diggers:
1. Bush sucks!
2. Microsoft--they suck too! (Use Umbuntu)
3. Vote RonPaul ! - jknevitt, on 11/04/2007, -2/+6"and yet we have had no attack since 9/'11. "
WRONG.
2002
May: Luke Helder injures 6 by placing pipebombs in mailboxes in the Midwest. Motivation to protest government control over daily lives and the illegality of marijuana and promotion of astral projection.
July 4: An Egyptian gunman opens fire at an El Al ticket counter in Los Angeles International Airport, killing two Israelis before being killed himself.
October: John Allen Muhammad and Lee Boyd Malvo conduct the Beltway Sniper Attacks, killing ten people in various locations throughout the Baltimore-Washington Metropolitan Area from October 2 until they are arrested on October 24.
2006
March 3: Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar, an Iranian-born graduate of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, drives an SUV onto a crowded part of campus, injuring nine*.
August 30: An Afghani Muslim hit 19 pedestrians, killing one, with his SUV in the San Francisco Bay area.
2007
October 26: A pair of improvised explosive devices were thrown at the Mexican Consulate in New York City. The fake grenades were filled with black powder and detonated by fuses causing very minor damage. Police were investigating the connection between this and a similar attack against the British Consulate in New York in 2005.
Also, the September/October 2001 anthrax attacks aren't on that list, since many seem to tie them into the 9/11 attacks themselves, although they were a separate incident. Those attacks killed 5 and injured 17. They are still being investigated.
* Mohammed Reza Taheri-azar confessed to intentionally hitting people with a car on the campus of the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill to "avenge the deaths of Muslims worldwide" and to "punish" the United States government. While no one was killed in the attack, nine people were injured (none seriously). Shortly after the attack, he turned himself in and was arrested. He currently awaits trial. In one letter, Taheri-azar wrote, "I was aiming to follow in the footsteps of one of my role models, Mohammad Atta, one of the 9/11/01 hijackers, who obtained a doctorate degree." - NoStoppingUs, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5how about their parents that consciously concieved them pay for their childrens health insurance, and not you and i?
revolutionary idea, i know. - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+4"They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security." - Ben Franklin, who would be horrified to read your post (primarily for content, but also for brutalizing the English language).
- unknownsoldierX, on 10/31/2007, -1/+5Less than 200 people? Says who? The oversight committee that keeps tabs on them, or the judge they need to get warrants from? ...Oh, wait. They don't need to answer to either of those.
- fuze44, on 11/04/2007, -0/+4Not a single person here knows what that money really bought. Stupid to be talking about ROI.
- Webbster, on 10/31/2007, -1/+4Where can I get a receipt ? I want to claim this on my tax next year...
- sponeil, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3Don't be dense. If no one had voted for him, he wouldn't have been elected no matter how many people had been denied their vote. Millions did vote for him (and probably would again).
- greenm1981, on 11/04/2007, -1/+4Post Hoc, Ergo Propter Hoc
- bullhead2007, on 11/04/2007, -0/+3That's 180 people we KNOW about. Phone taps aren't the only way they spy on you. They also have access to all of your credit card transactions, all the bills you pay, and any books you get from the library.
- donte, on 10/31/2007, -3/+6Be fair. They pull money out of our asses and China's for these worthless initiatives.
- synarchy, on 11/04/2007, -0/+3It's a widely known fact that the money collected from income taxes by the IRS is barely enough to pay INTEREST on the money the US government "borrows" from the Federal Reserve. Ask yourself instead, "why must the government borrow money at interest from the federal reserve when it can just print it itself at no interest?" Go check out Money as Dept on Youtube.com
- rayraym0fucka, on 11/01/2007, -0/+3Except people are so scared they've sat idly by and watched as our rights are taken away from us. Sure you may be "comfortable" but that only means your just as scared as everyone else; "the not so scared". The "scared" people are the ones bitching and moaning about everything that is wrong with today; "the scared for our future".
The fact of the matter; this country is all sorts of ***** up and a lot of it has to do with 9/11. They disrupted our way of life and that was their objective. - Toshibi, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3The simple fact they exist is a misuse of the tax payer dollars and privacy.
- w3b4ddict, on 10/31/2007, -2/+5You typical ignorant American. Did you forget Iraq mess? There is a 9/11 over there on daily basis.
- ibjhb, on 10/31/2007, -1/+4Welcome to my ignore list...
- JoeMerchant, on 11/04/2007, -2/+5Spread over 300 million americans, that's $145 per cap per year. So, my family of 4 is spending $580 per year, or $1.60 a day on intel.
I'd gladly increase that to $2 per day if it meant we got into one less war in the next 10 years. - snotrokit, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3"most intel centers are underpowered." I would agree with that, but also add that they are disproportionately powered, but still too damned much money when our country is turning into a complete hole, to be spending that much.
- toastgodsupreme, on 10/31/2007, -3/+5I don't feel any smarter... hrm. I don't think it's working.
- richbleak, on 11/04/2007, -1/+3You are as ignorant as *****. The heart of the controversy is the fact that the wiretaps are not subject to the process by which we could possibly find out if they were being misused. Let me summarize your pathetic, twisted logic: Skipping the step in which we find out if wiretaps are appropriate is OK because people against it can't prove that these wiretaps aren't appropriate. What the ***** is wrong with your brain?
- drmangrum, on 11/04/2007, -0/+2This is a prime example of someone who doesn't understand what intelligence is. Intell is NOT just spying. In fact a large portion of it has nothing to do with spying. "Spying" isn't done cloak and dagger anymore. It done with satellites and high-altitude flyovers of a country. Once you have the raw intelligence, it still has to be gathered into logical groups, analyzed, thrown into a data base, generate or update plans on possible scenarios based on the new data. Intel also covers such things as COUNTER-intelligence, psy-ops, etc.
How much do you think it costs to build and put a satellite into space? How much do you think it costs to maintain the upkeep on those satellites? How many people do you think are involved with the intelligence around a single country? Now, how many countries do you think have an intelligence profile associated with them ( and you can bet it's a hell of a lot more than Iran, China, Syria, and North Korea ) ? - DangerCollie, on 11/04/2007, -1/+3Hey, it's expensive to spy on the American people. Between email, phone calls and text messages, you all generate a lot of message traffic. That's a big job. 250 million people to keep tabs on...never a slack moment.
- nytel, on 11/01/2007, -0/+2Bush stole the elections. You can do anything when you got that much of power.
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