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- aboron, on 04/30/2008, -4/+97"FLDS spokesman Rod Parker" -- with a name like that it's no wonder the girls are getting pregnant. He should find a new place to park it.
- noahgelman, on 04/30/2008, -10/+88Well who didn't see that coming
/sarcasm - UsedToVacation, on 04/30/2008, -3/+55Yeah, because that's the biggest problem here...
- EmerilLIVE, on 04/30/2008, -4/+55Well obviously if God wanted men to have multiple wives, there would be a more appropriate ratio on the births of male vs. female. But that just makes to much sense. Cults like this always have to somehow eliminate a large percentage of the male population in order to create an unnatural ratio to sustain their atrocities.
- kanabiis, on 04/30/2008, -11/+58Compare this to the Texas teen pregnancy rate which is 108 per 1000, so if this compound was anywhere near statistical average, there would be 5 of those 51 teens would be pregnant.
Anyway you apologists want to spin this, there is a problem here.... It is especially telling considering the fact that the fathers of these babies are 2-3 times the age of the teen mother. In the United States, you can easily guesstimate the age of the father of the child with a very high degree of accuracy by using the following formula:
m < 16 --> 1/f o< m , where m = mother's age and f = father's age
so if the girl from the FLDS compound is 16, then this formula dictates that the father would be 18, and if you just use observable metrics you would find this is pretty accurate.
In the case of this compound this formula is blown WAY out of the water by a very large margin. The fathers of these children are 30 years old plus. When you look at this from just a scientific standpoint you can easily prove that this trend is way out of the observable behavior of teenage mothers. It is not common for a teen mother too choose a father of her children in America to be 35-50 years old.
I don't care what any of your FLDS apologists who are frequenting these threads say, a statistical observation clearly shows that there is something beyond 'choice' working here, and it is clear from the investigation that physical, emotional and mental manipulation is occurring.
Sources for the figures found in this post, lest I be accused of pulling numbers out of my ass:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_incidence_of_t ...
http://www.teenpregnancy.org/resources/data/govrat ... - inactive, on 04/30/2008, -6/+52Pedobear cuts if off at 12.
- Bacontastic, on 04/30/2008, -4/+43Polygamist cults are ***** up. Who would have guessed?
- inactive, on 04/30/2008, -20/+56Are right wingers still wetting their beds and claiming that these people were unfairly persecuted for their religion, or have they looked at the plain facts of this case and shut the ***** up already?
"CPS is evil!" Yeah, and getting repeatedly raped and beaten by 50 year old men isn't? - mrogi, on 04/30/2008, -5/+39The Fundamentalist Mormon church is heaven on earth for demented pedophiles. Those douchebags built a compound and stocked it with hundreds of teenage girls they can ***** and impregnate with impunity. I hope the law shuts down that compound and demolishes the building.
- insertAliasHere, on 04/30/2008, -2/+36I honestly must have missed something. I'm a conservative, and I think that FLDS is ***** crazy. But maybe that's just me.
- nusuni, on 04/30/2008, -7/+40The real question is how many of the pregnancies occurred as a result of incest. Have a feeling that stat would cause even those with the toughest stomach to vomit a little bit.
- amanilaenvelope, on 04/30/2008, -5/+32this sounds a lot like my high school.
- inactive, on 04/30/2008, -9/+33Yes. Jesus was a rape baby.
- richman241, on 04/30/2008, -5/+28Wait, was Jamie Lynn Spears there?
- threemagic, on 04/30/2008, -10/+30Another shining example of religion being used for your own sick uses.
If there was a God, why hasn't he salt pillared people like this...
boy touching priests.. SALT
mormon pedo... SALT
Muslim jihadist... SALT
maybe faith wouldn't seem so dumb if God actually took care of business once in a while. - Jforsyth89, on 04/30/2008, -5/+24Slavery was perfectly normal and accepted in human history. That doesn't justify it in any sort of way.
- GhostFreeman, on 04/30/2008, -6/+24In during awesome moment on Digg
- inactive, on 04/30/2008, -8/+25Screw so called "religious tolerance." This is just ***** evil.
- shcforward, on 04/30/2008, -2/+1914. But then again when lots of people only lived to be 30 or 40 back then, they had different standards.
- Harabeck, on 04/30/2008, -3/+20Children are forced to marry against their will and before theyre mature enough to deal with it. Thats not right here or anywhere else. We choose to deal with it.
- Exact0, on 04/30/2008, -1/+17When the only people your father allows you to consent with are other cult members, is it REALLY consent? You think they are allowed to go meet "boys" and go on innocent dates to get to know other males their age?
- nixfu, on 04/30/2008, -10/+25
Funny how similar all this sounds to everyday normal life in a typical islamic country to me.
Sex and marriage to lots of young girls based on religion (aka pedophile prophet), abuse of women and children etc... yep...just like a typical middle east country normal life.
Why are people not saying "you have to just understand its all part of their culture" for this case like they do to excuse the barbaric behavior of the followers of the pedophile, murderous warlord Mohammed? - Chandon, on 04/30/2008, -2/+16Damn. That's the sarcastic comment I was going to make.
- Icyfenix, on 04/30/2008, -0/+14Maybe he's out of salt.
- mattwalton56, on 04/30/2008, -10/+24Wow......just, wow...
- patrflav, on 04/30/2008, -4/+18It's funny how other insulting or crude comments are quickly buried but since it's pedobear morality is lost.
- pintomp3, on 04/30/2008, -2/+16that depends, are you married to half your neighborhood? this wasn't just a bunch of people who happen to live near each other.
- Harabeck, on 04/30/2008, -2/+15Teen pregnancy rates are nowhere near that in "Gen pop".
- chrgrose, on 04/30/2008, -1/+14Would you rather return to the stone age of civilization or keep up with the rest of us?
- kanabiis, on 04/30/2008, -1/+14Not unless your typical urban high school has a pregnancy rate of 60%.......
US teen pregnancy rate is 84 out of 1000..... or .084%
Google, use it - furi0us1, on 04/30/2008, -0/+12I don't see how left wing liberals can be accused of favoring govt control over morality. Thats typically the domain of the so called religious right.
- eir574, on 04/30/2008, -1/+13Traditionally, one expels the poor schlubs from the community while they're still teenagers for minor or even completely imagined infractions. At that point, the schlubs are the problem of the rest of society, and you never have to think about them again. That's the only reason I think I may have a problem with polygamy. The numbers just don't work out in communities where it's always one man to multiple women, or vice versa.
- iRelinquish, on 04/30/2008, -3/+14(FLDS)fundamentalist mormons = pedo's hiding behind a religion.
Those people are not LDS Mormons.
Any of those people would have been excomunicated from the (Utah) lds church in a heart beat. - tedonion, on 04/30/2008, -2/+12Unlike many parts of the world, here in the western world religious freedom does not extend to raping children, or denying medical care, or denying education, etc. . .
- deviantsteve, on 04/30/2008, -0/+10I got nothing
- inactive, on 04/30/2008, -4/+14"Muslims have walked through Houston International Airport with underage wives trucking along behind them."
Link to the authorities refusing to act on evidence of this? If you can't cought it up, I'm officially calling *****.
"Men and women have engaged in multiple sex partners for many generations, but now
precedent says that a man or woman can order DNA tests to prove infidelity just as happened wholesale at the FLDS compound."
Infidelity has nothing to do with this. WTF is wrong with your brain? No one cares about people having multiple sex partners. They care about OLD MEN RAPING LITTLE KIDS!
GET IT? - geobay, on 04/30/2008, -8/+18Sure...an imaginary pedophile
why not? - carpespasm, on 04/30/2008, -1/+11screw that, those pedos should have been locked away too. The church hiding them in different parishes is disgusting as well.
- kanabiis, on 04/30/2008, -2/+12I am going to paste my comment which can be found further below in this discussion, since it is completely relevant to your comment, and should put your ignorance into context regarding Teen pregnancies in America.... since you have won the FLDS apologist first post award:
Compare this to the Texas teen pregnancy rate which is 108 per 1000, so if this compound was anywhere near statistical average, there would be 5 of those 51 teens would be pregnant.
Anyway you apologists want to spin this, there is a problem here.... It is especially telling considering the fact that the fathers of these babies are 2-3 times the age of the teen mother. In the United States, you can easily guesstimate the age of the father of the child with a very high degree of accuracy by using the following formula:
m < 16 --> 1/f o< m , where m = mother's age and f = father's age
so if the girl from the FLDS compound is 16, then this formula dictates that the father would be 18, and if you just use observable metrics you would find this is pretty accurate.
In the case of this compound this formula is blown WAY out of the water by a very large margin. The fathers of these children are 30 years old plus. When you look at this from just a scientific standpoint you can easily prove that this trend is way out of the observable behavior of teenage mothers. It is not common for a teen mother too choose a father of her children in America to be 35-50 years old.
I don't care what any of your FLDS apologists who are frequenting these threads say, a statistical observation clearly shows that there is something beyond 'choice' working here, and it is clear from the investigation that physical, emotional and mental manipulation is occurring.
Sources for the figures found in this post, lest I be accused of pulling numbers out of my ass:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_incidence_of_t ...
http://www.teenpregnancy.org/resources/data/govrat ... - lhbaker, on 04/30/2008, -1/+11Not really the point....
- Harabeck, on 04/30/2008, -2/+12No, living past 40 was very lucky. The mummified remains are older because those were the very richest people alive and could afford better living.
- inactive, on 04/30/2008, -0/+9You seem to take the First Amendment a bit too far. By your logic:
Your interpretation of freedom of religion: human sacrifices are perfectly legal. As are other forms of murder in the name of religion.
Your interpretation of freedom of press: a reporter can commit breaking and entering, robbery or any crime in the name of getting a story and not be touched.
Your interpretation of freedom of speech: libel and slander laws are unconstitutional.
Thankfully, the legal system disagrees with you. - Kumaku, on 04/30/2008, -2/+11Classy
- goffy59, on 04/30/2008, -1/+10You are ***** nuts!
- lhbaker, on 04/30/2008, -2/+11Who the ***** would defend this *****?
- lhbaker, on 04/30/2008, -2/+11True, but Joseph Smith is still to blame. The LDS denounced polygamy only under enormous political pressure.
- EarlOfLade, on 04/30/2008, -0/+9So...
You are a pedophile incest lover? Wow! - inactive, on 04/30/2008, -2/+11"There are aproximately ten times as many children in Houston who don't know who their father is than those in the FLDS compound."
But issue is whether they were born to underage moms who were impregnated by old men. Funny how you right wingers are tap dancing your asses off to avoiding confronting this fact. You're doing your damndest to make this about infidelity of paternity or whatever when in fact it's about statutory rape.
"I will repeat. I you want to find a bunch of Kids who don't know who their daddy is, go to Houston, Dallas, Fort Worth, El Paso, San Antonio"
I repeat: I don't *****' care about bastard kids and neither do the authorities in this case. We only care about children getting knocked up 50 year olds. - fnordy, on 04/30/2008, -2/+10I guess Bush's Abstinence replacement for Sex Ed isn't working too well...
- Exact0, on 04/30/2008, -1/+9This cult has the The Lost Boys, correct?
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