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- ileftfark, on 07/05/2009, -4/+196Is there a chance the track could bend?
- RandomHero420, on 07/05/2009, -1/+154Not on your life, my Hindu friend.
- wontstoptalking, on 07/05/2009, -3/+137The ring came off my pudding can!
- Sil369, on 07/05/2009, -2/+133Take my pen knife, my good man.
- mattmacneil, on 07/06/2009, -2/+103what about us brain-dead slobs?
- TrouserJazz, on 07/06/2009, -3/+101You'll all be given cushy jobs
- inactive, on 07/06/2009, -4/+102But Main Street's still all cracked and broken!
- Shiva11, on 07/06/2009, -1/+98Sorry mom, the mob has spoken
- travislopes, on 07/06/2009, -4/+100Were you sent here by the devil?
- 5ean, on 07/06/2009, -6/+101No, good sir, I'm on the level.
- Rhysbo, on 07/06/2009, -2/+95Mono-rail! Mono-rail! Mono-raaailll!
- mattmacneil, on 07/06/2009, -2/+81Mono..d'oh!
- magaman, on 07/06/2009, -0/+73The short, short version is that Monorail Central cleared Monorail Pink in reverse into the Concourse (the Epcot side of the TTC) station without being aware that Monorail Purple was still in the station. Pink was cleared with MAPO override, meaning that the driver would have disabled the anti-collision system (there are a variety of legitimate reasons for doing this), and would have been acting on faith that Central wouldn't have cleared him into a dangerous situation because it sometimes is difficult to see everything you'd want to in the cab mirrors, particularly at night on a curve such as the one he was backing along. For whatever reason, Purple just sat in the station without attempting to avoid the accident, and was struck by Pink moving at the full 15 mph allowed during MAPO override. From what I understand, the driver of Purple was a new transfer from another department. Why Central would not have made sure the station was clear before moving any trains is a bit of a mystery, but I've heard that no one was actually in the control console (the control tower-looking place at Concourse) at the time. To my knowledge, there were no electrical or mechanical problems in play here. Again, I have to stress that I'm relating what I've heard, and I was not there. This is a second-hand account from others more familiar with the situation.
- Nboy514, on 07/06/2009, -1/+69Monorail cat unavailable for comment...
- abeg, on 07/05/2009, -0/+64check out the video of it right after the crash
http://www.clickorlando.com/video/19956043/index.h ...
and the digg
http://digg.com/travel_places/Video_Monorails_coll ... - christof53, on 07/06/2009, -7/+68Mono = One
Rail = Rail - DirtPile, on 07/06/2009, -2/+56This happened in North Haverbrook a while back.
- imikedaman, on 07/06/2009, -0/+52And the fact that it already appears on all the major news sites means nothing to you?
- christof53, on 07/06/2009, -0/+44*sigh*
http://deadon.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/mono-rai ... - kurtisnelson, on 07/05/2009, -1/+43The monorail system is completely safe, there are no mechanical failures.
- RiotHeart, on 07/06/2009, -4/+44Well, sir, there's nothing on earth
Like a genuine,
Bona fide,
Electrified,
Six-car
Monorail!
What'd I say? - KingGorilla, on 07/06/2009, -0/+39I disagree. I think they're going to try to announce this as much as they can and really highlight the dangers of their theme park.
- PcChip, on 07/06/2009, -4/+41I HOPE MONORAIL CAT WAS NOT INURED!
- wontstoptalking, on 07/05/2009, -1/+38I call the big one Bitey
- banski, on 07/06/2009, -1/+36True or false? You can get mono from riding the monorail.
- DallasG, on 07/06/2009, -3/+37Simpsons did it !
- magaman, on 07/06/2009, -0/+33Here is the long version since it will more then likely never see the light of day, this was on a forum on WDW not my words
"I am a Seasonal CM and was a CP, and I would like to shed some light on the process for removing trains from the Epcot Beam.
Monorail Pink would be "deadheaded" at Concourse, meaning the Pilot announces that the train is going out of service and must be fully unloaded. The pilot walks through the train to ensure this, then closes the doors and goes back to Cab 1 (normal driving cab for Epcot.) At this point the conversation goes similar to this:
"Central, Monorail Pink is deadheaded at Concourse."
"10-4, Normal Visual to Pylon 30, hold at notify Central"
Pink then continues out in forward to Pylon 30, which places the end of his train (Cab 6) just past the switch point to take trains from Epcot to Express. Once Pink gets to 30 and notifies Central, Central radios shop to move "Switches 8 and 9 to the Spur Line, with power." This is where something went wrong last night. Either Shop didnt comply, Central didn't call, or something malfunctioned. Either way, something went wrong at this point last night.
Central will also call Purple and say
"Monorail Purple you are Normal Visual [if you have a green MAPO and no visual obstructions ahead, go ahead] to Pylon 379, hold and notify."
Pylon 379 is the primary holdpoint for Concourse, meaning if a train is at the station, the train behind will stop at Pylon 379. Pylon 379 is right over the handicapped parking, by the way.
Last night, from what I have been told by people who had radios on them (and switching is really the only interesting thing going on at 2am) that Pink was "Clear to use MAPO Override, in reverse, through 9, through 8, THROUGH BASE, through Poly, through Grand Flo to the Magic Kingdom, switch ends" meaning, had the switches been aligned properly, Pink would have been expecting to reverse COMPLETELY through Base on Express and all the way to the MK. "CLEAR" from Central means you GO. Even if you get an MBS, you MAPO override. Clear is as good as gold, when given from Central.
By this point, Purple has reached 379 and notified so. Central will then say "Purple you are normal visual to pylon 385 [directly above the tram station] then MAPO Override to reach Concourse, hold and notify."
Purple has to MAPO Override because, had the switches been aligned to the spur, there would have been a gap ahead of Purple, which would have given an RED MBS, even though Purple only needed to reach Concourse.
So IN MY OPINION, last night Pink was coming in Reverse in MAPO Override (as required to pass over a switch) but instead of being on the Spur Line, was in fact still on Epcot beam. I do not know why the Pilot did not realize this, but that is not for me to debate. At the same time, Purple was MAPO Overriding from pylon 385. The pilots did not realize their RED MBS was not from a switch being open, but in fact due to the other train. So Pink came through Concourse at 15mph in reverse (as restricted by computers) as Purple was approaching Concourse in forward, in MAPO Override, just past pylon 385 (as indicated by the photos showing it past the tram loading area) and this is where the collision I believe occured.
I have tried to be as factual about the switching process as I can without being too confusing, and the last paragraph was pure speculation, although I feel I have some credence as I took trains to shop nearly every night. Either way, it is a tragedy that a Cast Member was killed, and I can't imagine what the other driver must be feeling, as well as everyone else involved." - TheJimid, on 07/05/2009, -18/+49Disney is going to try and bury the ***** out of this.
- gcacho, on 07/06/2009, -1/+31Mono-- d'oh
- LilJimmyNordin, on 07/06/2009, -0/+28Inured to what?
- Klaky, on 07/06/2009, -1/+28I came for the Simpson's reference and was not left disappointed
- PhillyMJS, on 07/06/2009, -1/+28When asked for comment, a Disney spokesperson was quoted as saying, "Go away! There ain't no monorail, and there never was!"
- protonone, on 07/06/2009, -1/+27I wish these incidents at Disney did not make such a big splash in the news. Even though some of the accidents involve death, that place is still one of the safest places on earth.
- dpknc84, on 07/06/2009, -0/+25Here's a more detailed account of what is assumed to have happened, along with info on the driver that died:
http://www.mouseplanet.com/8896/WDW_Update_Special ... - wtfy0, on 07/06/2009, -0/+24Monorail!
- bkraj, on 07/06/2009, -0/+2421 year old computer science major, odds of him being a digg users are pretty high. I believe we've lost one of our own.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 07/06/2009, -2/+25They are mostly automated. The drivers are pretty much just a backup. However, for reasons not clear yet, the one train had the automated collision avoidance system (MAPO) on manual override.
- inactive, on 07/05/2009, -2/+23I thought that these trains were automated?
- BossKey, on 07/06/2009, -0/+20Clearly, Keyboard Cat will be making a statement on his behalf.
- sickswaystop, on 07/05/2009, -0/+20omfg that is such a tragedy. I feel bad for the people on that train, like that little girl with the white mouse ears.
- inactive, on 07/06/2009, -0/+19Another message from Captain Obvious: That's a Simpsons reference.
- Schmich, on 07/06/2009, -0/+16Buried, that's exactly what christof53 said abo....oohhhhhhh
- itsbob, on 07/06/2009, -0/+15Died in The Happiest Place on Earth
- kahoona1, on 07/06/2009, -2/+17Was the driver text messaging?
- AndrewDB, on 07/06/2009, -0/+15God the driver/conductor was only 21.
Rest in Peace driver of Monorail Purple. :( - LilJimmyNordin, on 07/06/2009, -0/+13Spoken like Lyle Lanley.
- irobeth, on 07/06/2009, -0/+13DIGG CHOIR DOESN'T WORK WHEN YOU FINISH THE PHRASE YOURSELF
- MattM462, on 07/06/2009, -1/+13No, he was uploading his Facebook profile pic.
- seandaly, on 07/06/2009, -0/+9I hereby award you the "most informative comment" award.
Seriously, great detailed information explaining how it works.
It's nice when you know that someone isn't talking out of their ass. - ShingoEX, on 07/06/2009, -0/+9Someone hasn't seen The Lion King or Bambi.
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