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- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -30/+157According to the article Mr Sagha wrote: "The 9/11 generation is being raised somewhat similarly to how the youth of the Red Scare were raised which included confusion, misinformation, fear, nationalism, and undue support of our elite rulers.
But we have traitors on our hands. We have war hawks, instigators, oppressors and conquering emperors who have brought nothing but death and anguish to the Iraqis."
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Looks like the kid spoke truth to power. Of course he was fired. Good job kid. - nahsrocketeer75, on 04/22/2008, -14/+123An utterly ***** overreaction on the part of the newspaper. If you're going to have a high school kid writing regularly, you've got to either edit his/her stuff closely so that it fits within what you define as your paper's standards, or you accept the consequences like the grownups you're supposed to be.
- pintomp3, on 04/22/2008, -13/+89even at 17, he's more of a journalist than most of our corporate media. i guess they think he should have written more about britney spears or anna nicole's death.
- ralphie81, on 04/22/2008, -2/+59He wasn't writing a news article, he was writing a column. Columnists go beyond strictly reporting the news.
- McGuinness, on 04/22/2008, -8/+59Am I the only one that thinks this kid is 100% correct in what he wrote, and that the editors/owners of the Naperville Sun (which is...down the road from me) are just a bunch of old fogies that think anything critical of our nation is anti-American?
Because...our country is about a half rotation away from going down the drain and most > 30 years old just turn around and pretend its not happening.
I never liked ANYONE from Naperville anyway, the entire town is a bunch of stuck up, snooty perfect suburban little families. Whenever I met a kid from Naperville, they were almost always void of being able to think for themselves without mommy and daddy having their hand up their kids ass like a little puppet.
Of course the citizens of Naperville wont take this article, they dont like any free, non-collective thought. Growing up next to that town, I genuinely have a hatred for it and its citizens. - franklymister, on 04/22/2008, -3/+50The important point was made at the beginning - Mohammad should have had an editor who would push back, and let him know if his column was straying out of bounds BEFORE it got published. What an ironic way to teach American values to our kids - punishing them for expressing themselves.
- ironhide, on 04/22/2008, -8/+44Uneducated? How so? Sounds like he's spot on to me. Let me guess, he's uneducated because he doesn't see the world as you see it right?
- pintomp3, on 04/22/2008, -11/+39so that would mean all of fox news should be canned.
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -1/+24The editor should have been the one who got fired, actually. This kid's job is to write columns, which he did. The editor's job is to make sure the columns are appropriate to go to print, which he/she clearly did not do.
- Culled, on 04/22/2008, -1/+24It was on the opinion page. The newspaper, of course, had the right to fire him but he was writing his opinions on the opinion page not in the news section.
- ironhide, on 04/22/2008, -4/+25@picaroon, well thanks for showing who the real uneducated buffoon is.
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -3/+24I would agree with you had this been presented as a news article. But it was his column, and as such, he can say what he wants. If he wants to say something stupid that I don't agree with, fine.. I'll write a letter to the editor offering my dissenting opinion.
That's how democracy works. - heavystone, on 04/22/2008, -6/+26It's the kid from Karate Kid!
- whoreable, on 04/22/2008, -21/+38Good. He is only 17. Now he can focus more on nailing high school chicks while he still can.
- Quick2822, on 04/22/2008, -3/+19He's from Naperville, his parents will just buy him a BMW to make him feel better.
In my lifetime, I have never experienced such asshatery and rudeness that I get from people who live in Naperville. - SenorCardgage74, on 04/22/2008, -2/+181. It's an OpEd
2. One of the quickest ways to identify a moron is in the way they use the word "bias."
Try to get this: People, News Organizations, Opinions can be BIASED.
None of them can be BIAS.
It amazes me just how many of you guys make that same, very common stupid mistake.
Mostly because it ISNT a mistake. It's an indicator of a huge lack of understanding of a term that you guys throw around far too much. - quarkie, on 04/22/2008, -1/+14"Freedom of the Press"?
The newspaper has the freedom to publish it, retract it, make fun of it, etc... If he doesn't want his pieces in that paper he can sell them to someone else and they can publish it.
Isn't freedom wonderful? - MWeather, on 04/22/2008, -1/+12That's what I love about these high school girls, man. I get older and they stay the same age.
- willamette, on 04/22/2008, -10/+21First, the kid shouldn't have been canned....it was the editor's job to screen what a 17-year old columnist wrote.
Second, it was a stupid column that shouldn't have been published. 1) The kid apparently doesn't really know what happened in the Red Scare, at least if he's comparing it to America today. 2) His argument seems self defeating - here he (a child!) is with a platform to speak his mind about an administration that he doesn't like, and his argument is that's being muzzled or misinformed?? The only media group that even attempts to paint the Bush administration in a good light is Fox News, and I highly doubt this kid has been forced to view that. Add to this the fact that the "9/11 Generation" is the most online group of individuals EVER having the largest and most free access to all content, opinion, views, etc. of any generation that's ever lived. I highly doubt this kid sits down at 5:30 every night and watches the BS MSM with their 30 second sound bites (unless is Heath Ledger's death or Brittany Spears...then it gets a full 2 minutes).
The poll numbers demonstrate this fact, too - younger voters are the least likely to support the current White House or Republicans in general. It appears the 9/11 generation is the least misinformed or confused. - inactive, on 04/22/2008, -11/+22I don't agree with his message in the least - BUT, I most certainly do advocate for Freedom of the Press. The kid has the right to say what he wants, regardless of his age. He wasn't standing on the street promoting profanity - he wrote an articulate, intelligent column that should be made more famous because the paper attempted to bury it. This kind of rampant stupidity isn't what we need in America, because it's NOT ***** AMERICAN.
American is the ability for people of differing views to express them freely and openly. This kid defines patriotism - speaking out and questioning the government.
Sorry for the goddamn profanity. But stupid people like the editor of this paper make me wonder if they wipe their asses with the Constitution. - minox, on 04/22/2008, -15/+25His article reads like the majority of the comments on digg. That's not a compliment.
- beachtrader, on 04/22/2008, -2/+12I guess I have to take a contra-opinion to the previous comments. Everyone keeps quoting freedom of press and how it is now being suppressed because the kid was canned. That's not true. Freedom of press comes from the constitution and it means the "government" can't suppress your speech. Freedom of press has no applicability to a private newspaper who decides what they want to print.
If this newspaper wants to only have articles on Microsoft and great bottles of wine to drink -- they can do that. If they want to only print Democratic politics -- they can do that. If they only want to run articles on Paris Hilton, well you get the point. At no time was this kid guaranteed a full right to print whatever he wishes. He was an at-will employee who could have been terminated for anything the newspaper wanted. The newspaper could have given him the boot even if his articles were in the wrong font. Freedom of press is not an issue here.
If you want to discuss whether the editors should have booted him, you can. But, the kid has no constitutional right to have his articles printed by the private company running the newspaper. - Culled, on 04/22/2008, -6/+15Freedom of the press is limited to those who own one.
- MWeather, on 04/22/2008, -1/+10So you water down the truth with lies to sell more ads?
- matador3, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9Have you ever made a comment on here that wasn't buried?
- Litespeed, on 04/22/2008, -5/+14Who the hell hires a 17 year old to write newspaper columns in the first place? That's the worst age. They think they know everything but don't have the real world experience to put it into perspective.
- ironhide, on 04/22/2008, -0/+9Yeah, and the fact that you're an anonymous internet troll has nothing to do with it. At least the kid has some balls.
- MWeather, on 04/22/2008, -3/+11We brought democracy, not freedom or a better way of life.
So they're poor, sick, starving, and getting blown up, but they can vote. - hipnerd, on 04/22/2008, -0/+8He was "editorializing" because he was writing an opinion column -- not news.
The real story is that the paper did a sloppy job of checking what the kid was writing and then threw him under the bus when people complained. He's 17 years old and not out of high school. He made a mistake in tone and subject matter. It should have been the news professionals at the paper that caught and corrected the issue before it was published. These type of missteps are common with young writers trying to find their voice. They just needed to provide the kid with a little guidance.
The editors of his paper look pretty gutless from where I'm sitting. - kazoomaloo, on 04/22/2008, -1/+9Well, let's not go overboard and call him articulate. The article was pretty rambling and not quite cohesive. While I agreed with the spirit of the article, I can't say I was impressed with the writing. He's a young guy though, so it's not the end of the world.
Regardless, if the paper decided to run the column they shouldn't have turned around and canned him. They had plenty of time in between submission and publication to review the article, tell him to write another or decide not to put it in. If I had been the editor I just would have said, "This is a bunch of jumbled political screed. Why don't you go back to writing about college ruled vs. wide ruled notebooks like we hired you to do?" - ironhide, on 04/22/2008, -0/+8Says the man who is blinded by hatred of all things liberal.
- Bantec, on 04/22/2008, -1/+9Yeah, people who promote free speech and 2ND amendment rights are 'nut jobs'. Not like those sound minded individuals who view that silly constitution as 'just a stupid piece of paper'. Because, it's a good idea to allow government to make and enforce laws without any preset guidelines. In fact, making the rules up as you go is a good policy in any avenue of life.
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -1/+7Two thoughts come to mind:
1) Newspapers have editorial views and that is reflected in whom they choose to carry. If Mohammed has a problem being fired from a paper, he should speak to Ann Coulter who has been removed from MANY papers even as her readership grows because some considered her content at odds with their paper.
2) He's 17. Nothing in his writing samples presented sounds anything different than what you read on the typical 100+ digg, Anti-Bush post here. As someone who wrote op-eds at 17 and under, let me tell you that you neeed to have an original point of view to be worthwhile reading, - dweeb73, on 04/22/2008, -1/+7Spot on!
- twisterrust, on 04/22/2008, -0/+6well, than that's 21 more uneducated people and counting ( -21digg)
- CJMac, on 04/22/2008, -0/+6But, as said before, he wasn't writing a 'news' piece. He was writing an editorial column. If the editor had thought it was inappropriate, he shouldn't have run the article. Plain and simple
- isunktheship, on 04/22/2008, -2/+8I read the rest of his column, and it's mildly interesting. The Sun just should have said, from the start, since you are the High School journalist write about [good topics] stay away from [bad topics]. They screwed up when his thoughts were published, editors are censors, if they didn't like it, they shouldn't have published it. It seems like they needed his spot, so they published whatever he wrote, later realizing it was a bad idea.
If the editors HAD started off that way he would have been let go after the first article, instead of them getting frustrated and taking it out on hom. - catalysis, on 04/22/2008, -1/+7I lived in Naperville too and it's mostly an upper-middle class, white-picket fence, conservative area. Many of them are the type that voted for the war but then don't want to hear about it or see it. That's what this is about.
- MWeather, on 04/22/2008, -2/+7Are you trying to say things weren't better under Saddam? Under Saddam most Iraqis only needed to worry about not pissing off the government. Now, whichever side they choose, even if they pick none, they are a target.
The US is not the worst nation and it will never be so, but I do sometimes grow tired of the America can do no wrong crowd - DreKor, on 04/22/2008, -4/+9It looks like this has everything to do with free speech, just not with regard to the 1st amendment to the the constitution.
- TinternAbbot, on 04/22/2008, -4/+9Sounds like most digg users.
- akamurph, on 04/22/2008, -0/+5From the contents of his article he is probably a digger so odds aren't in his favor of getting laid.
- ventralnet, on 04/22/2008, -3/+8 The Chicago tribune is a company just like any other and they can choose what they want in their papers and what they don't want.
- inactive, on 04/22/2008, -1/+6Yeah, just look at all the people on DIGG who are repressed and unable to say what they want.
- TheSwashbuckler, on 04/22/2008, -0/+5"You can't write opinion as news."
He was a columnist, not a reporter. - Tonicks, on 04/22/2008, -2/+6Columns are for opinions, whether you agree with them or not; however, the paper had a right to fire him since they are a private organization. If OPINION/COLUMN staff isn't writing to the paper's liking, then they can give them the boot.
This of course does not apply to the NEWSROOM, where this wouldn't have been acceptable. Also, though, you can't be fired for reporting TRUE NEWS; that's wrong.
I agree with the guy's opinions, but...
To summarize: The kid was fired from his opinion column gig because the paper didn't like his direction. Plain and simple. - Bantec, on 04/22/2008, -1/+5he has plenty of time for that.
- Hamletlere, on 04/23/2008, -0/+4Then why is Rush Limbaugh so popular?
- SSUK, on 04/22/2008, -1/+5But you invaded Iraq under the pretence that they had WMDs and weren't afraid to point them at America. In FEAR of a potential strike against the US, however unlikely, the US invaded the country. So by supporting the war in Iraq, you're already deluded enough to buy into the fear which this kid got his job taken away for pointing out. Good job.
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