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- novenator, on 04/20/2009, -1/+141That was some pretty twisted sh-t. There is no way a strip search of a 13 year old girl for ibu-*****-profen should be allowed.
- Hetman, on 04/20/2009, -3/+124This should not even be an argument. I do not care if my doughter/son comes into school smelling of pot/booze and clearly drunk. You have the right to hold them in custody until I arrive. After that if the cops warrant a search of them and I am there, fine. But no teacher has the authority to strip search anyone. And no one under 18 should be allowed to speak to the police with out there parents present.
- gemlarin, on 04/20/2009, -5/+114Why in all hell did this make it all the way to the supreme court? What moron in district court did not feel this was a violation of this young girls basic rights? The judicial system in this country is *****.
- Runew0lf, on 04/20/2009, -3/+102If someone did that to my daughter...i would break their ***** JAW!
- OfNumbers, on 04/20/2009, -0/+92Meanwhile the Tylenol addicts run wild.
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………………………………………………………’’~-‘’_ , , ,,’,_/--‘ - Shipyaad, on 04/20/2009, -0/+47What what what?
This is a public school you're talking about. Since when have your rights, your child's rights, reason, logic, or common sense had anything to do with public school district policy?
Quit trying to make sense, goddammit. After all, there's a war on drugs going on, and we need all the help we can get if we're going to stamp out the menace of ibuprofen. - rilian, on 04/20/2009, -0/+44Actually the 9th circuit court found in favor of the student. This would imply to me that the school district appealed the case...
- ilmickeyli, on 04/20/2009, -1/+37For ibuprofen? Come on man! Try something schedule II atleast, ffs!!!!
- MattB123, on 04/20/2009, -1/+32Sew them? To what?
- tizle, on 04/20/2009, -0/+26Kids do stupid things. It is part of being a kid. But when a school does something so stupid, it is disappointing. They should have known better. And, instead of fighting it, they should apologize and accept responsibility for their mistakes. They are not setting a good example for other students and for other schools. If they get away with it, others will try the same thing.
there are so many ways they could have handled this. They could have detained the student and call the cops and the parents. And then asked for a strip search. instead they took the law into their own hands. It shows vindictiveness on the part of the school. No matter how frustrated you are, you have no right to take it out on the students. In cases like this, it just makes you look bad and takes you away from a position of authority where you can do so much more good. They lost the war just so that they can win a battle. - seanstuart, on 04/20/2009, -2/+26This is what happens when a society becomes so crippled with fear at everything around them that rights and decency are thrown out the window for as little as suspicion of possessing ibuprofen. Ibu-freakin-profen. Good God, we Americans are just terrified of everything, expect it seems our own government.
- nikki2300dk, on 04/20/2009, -2/+26God forbid they set precedent that strip searching kids is ok.
- esteskid, on 04/20/2009, -7/+30can we cool it on the pedobears already?
- ilovegarnet, on 04/20/2009, -0/+22Why are school officials conducting strip searches? The police should be called if there is a violation (or allegation thereof) pertaining to drugs.
- PopcornDave, on 04/20/2009, -2/+24No, the schools have become de facto parents these days by lazy parents who are the first to complain and sue when they don't like something, but these officials still stepped way over the line.
- inactive, on 04/20/2009, -0/+21This is like that case from a few years ago where a 2nd grader pretended a chicken finger was a gun and went "bang bang" and was suspended under some sort of zero tolerance against violence thing. Oh slavish adherence to the letter of the law, what WON'T you do?
- inactive, on 04/20/2009, -3/+24If I ever got strip searched I'd be so embarrassed. I hardly ever wear clean underwear.
- ApokalypseNow, on 04/20/2009, -0/+20"...give ppl a tiny dose of ppl..."
...soylent green? - Nerys, on 04/20/2009, -0/+20Let's just hope the Supreme Courts has enough of a set of balls and enough sense of duty left to UPHOLD the constitution which is the reason they even EXIST.
- PopcornDave, on 04/20/2009, -1/+20Especially the part when they told her to move her underwear aside and move around so they could see if she had pills in her pants. I mean seriously.
The people responsible for this need to be bankrupted for what they did to this poor girl. - inactive, on 04/20/2009, -1/+20it says in the constitution "One must have a headache at the fifth degree of pain to be eligible for medication" It goes on to say strip searching is perfectly acceptable and no one can speak their mind in a peaceful protest
- danwallace, on 04/20/2009, -0/+17I'd purposely ***** my pants just to make it even more pleasant for whoever was performing the strip-search.
- inactive, on 04/20/2009, -0/+17The supreme court will probably make the right decision in this case, even conservatives don't believe teachers should be strip searching students.
This is wrong on so many levels. First of all, this all took place because a girl who didn't like the plaintiff told the teacher that the plaintiff had a prescription strength ibuprofen. So, in other words, at that school, anytime a student says another student has contraband, a strip search ensues? Second, she was accused of having a headache pill, not heroin. Next, why the ***** is the school ordering a minor to disrobe? If they need my signed permission for her to take sex education, then they damn sure need it to make her get naked.
Her rights were obviously violated. I don't know a single person, conservative or otherwise that believes schools should be strip searching students. Even Bill O'Reilly is on her side in this. - duewydo, on 04/20/2009, -0/+16I know you are being sarcastic, but the sad thing about it is that there are actually a lot of people that think just like that. It is sad. It is like school has become a sovern nation with thier own laws and rules.
- TheShad0w, on 04/20/2009, -0/+16So, this story came up just a while ago on digg. I figured it was easier just to re-paste what I had already posted:
http://digg.com/world_news/Strip_Search_of_13_Year ...
I've had some really big questions about all this.
First, Ibuprofen isn't a controlled substance. Its an over the counter pharmaceutical product. Exactly how does this constitute probable cause to search her.
Secondly, Why didn't they contact her parents. You can't even question a minor without parent and/or lawyer present.
Third, Were the individuals that performed said search qualified, certified, and/or authorized to enforce such an action? Last I checked a school doesn't have the privilege or power to perform the acts of police officers. If they weren't said individuals or even if they were consult the previous statement.
Lastly, Who the hell decided that schools had any such authority or power. This is ridiculous. This is a 13 year old honor roll student what the hell was going through their minds. Since when did tossing common ***** sense out the window become a requirement of public education? - inigomntoya, on 04/20/2009, -0/+16Worth the assault charge? Definitely.
- McNerd, on 04/20/2009, -0/+15So, what are the possible ramifications of this? Can we hope to see a serious blow dealt to zero-tolerance policy on a national scale?
- Insightful, on 04/20/2009, -2/+17Unbelievable. If that happened to my child, every legislator (local ,state, federal), every law enforcement agency, every news outlet will be contacted until they respond (a la Shawshank Rdemption) - in addition to lawsuits filed up the wazoo until the school officials apologized and heads roll.
- AmazingSteve, on 04/20/2009, -0/+14I dunno, if my kid, boy or girl, came home and said they'd been strip searched for whatever reason, the ones in charge at that school would wish they'd never been born.
- gemlarin, on 04/20/2009, -0/+12Thank you for the background on this. In that case I hope the school district gets bitch slapped in Supreme Court. In fact, they should be fined for wasting the courts time with a frivolous appeal.
- inactive, on 04/20/2009, -9/+21Why do we need 3-4 pedoretards ASCIIs?
- grishnav, on 04/20/2009, -0/+12Something else comes to mind... Did the parent call 911 and report a sexual assault against their child? Would have been a good move as well.
- Bloodwine, on 04/20/2009, -5/+17Parents try too hard to be the friends these days.
- Stormwern, on 04/20/2009, -0/+11Sewage
- LordDshyzL, on 04/20/2009, -0/+11If kids today are getting arrested on sexual offenses for "Sexting" where they send pics through text of themselves, then this principle should be convicted of child porn or rape or something. If it would have been my daughter I would have been arrested for assualt because I would have beat the lving ***** out of everyone in that school that let this happen. Go America- We are a ***** JOKE!
- Jforsyth89, on 04/20/2009, -0/+11Possession of ibuprofen is not a crime. The police have no reason to be involved.
- inactive, on 04/20/2009, -2/+13i hope your face gets ***** on
- shiv68, on 04/20/2009, -2/+13
I came here to say the same thing. - nikki2300dk, on 04/20/2009, -0/+10Prescription-strength ibuprofen is simply ibuprofen at higher dosage. You'd get the same effect taking 4 regular pills instead of 2.
- duewydo, on 04/20/2009, -1/+11sounds like a fun place to go to school...
- tizle, on 04/20/2009, -0/+10The school has a right to search anything on their property but they can't strip search a student. If they think that a strip search is needed, they need consent from the parent and they need the police to be there.
- DangerCollie, on 04/20/2009, -2/+11It'll be interesting to see if Scilia and Roberts vote pro-strip search children. Another victory feather in the conservative headdress.
- pilgrim3970, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9I will make sure my child understands that they are absolutley, positively, under any and all circumstances, to refuse to comply until I am called and present at the school and they DO not need to be afraid of any threats some a$$hole of principal or teacher make.
- Chooxo, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9Absolute ppl corrupts, absolutely.
- celotil, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9When I was in high school I used to get headaches fairly often, both regular pain and migraines. I asked on the first couple of occasions if I could have an aspirin or a panadol, and was denied because the school policy was not to give drugs to students.
I even had a note from Mum, and her direct verbal assurance to the Vice Principal that it was okay to give me pain killers, and they still wouldn't go against that policy, so I started bringing panadol to school.
I only got asked about it once, by a teacher who saw me taking a couple at a drink fountain.
I said I had a headache, and since it was school policy to not give me pain killers, I carry my own. She said I wasn't allowed to carry ANY medication. I said she wasn't allowed to be stupid, and went to my next class.
Students today need to know their rights, and have the will to use those rights if they sincerely desire to get educated without letting morons hinder them. - MisterRik, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9I suspect that, in this case, it was done because the police wouldn't have wanted to touch a case involving the strip searching of a minor for something that isn't illegal with someone else's barge pole.
- dizmoz, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9I know a boy named Sue.
- TheShad0w, on 04/20/2009, -0/+9So this is what we teach our children now a days. I'm only in my late twenties and the educational experience vastly differs from what it was. Instead of teaching our children to open their minds and explore the possibilities we want them to sit down, shut up, and fall in line. Or else. Robots and cogs in a machine. People wonder why our children are snapping? Why they are breaking? Its because we treat them like criminals for being individuals. We punish them for "crimes" that if they were an adult wouldn't even be a misdemeanor.
I'm not saying that the school shouldn't have some legal recourse to stop the true trouble makers. There is no reason for children to be flashing their gangs, explicatives, or causing general discourse but there has to be common sense. There has to be consideration. A school isn't a normal place of employment. It isn't your 9-5 desk job. You can't treat it as such. These aren't adults. They don't understand. Even if they say they do they have no idea how their actions can affect their lives but if you won't let them make mistakes then what is the point?
Parents aren't faultless here either. Parents need to manage their children, not schools. Schools aren't over glorified daycares. It is the parents fault for assuming that "someone else will handle it." You need to be active in your kids lives. You need to be present at school meetings. You need to voice your opinion. Why? So that it isn't your 13 year old son or daughter having some stranger asking them to remove their clothing without representation for some twisted and mutated form of justice.
This isn't rocket science people. We all pay taxes to have public services such as Schools available to your children. You have a say in how these institutions are ran. Its up to you to exercise those rights.
As for the school. You know you're in the wrong. You took an honor roll student with no prior history of disobedience and raped her. Maybe not physically, but mentally and emotionally. You stripped her of her power, her rights.. You didn't bother to include a parent. You were all so self righteous that you felt you had the authority to do as you pleased. Have you no shame, no sense of decency or morals. What if it was your child? What if it was you? Whats worse is that instead of owning up to the obvious mistake you decided to walk the line of self preservation. Instead of admitting that what you did was wrong, apologizing, and making amends you pushed this into our highest courts. You've wasted thousands of tax payer dollars all to keep you and your image safe. What a horrible and despicable collection of people you are. - shrudheuie, on 04/20/2009, -4/+13GO COURT SYSTEM GO!! Uphold a school official's right to arbitrarily order strip searches of young children, for a damn Advil. Pedophiles need good jobs. They have a lot offer the school systems. Let's face it, they have spent years figuring out what interests children. Maybe by setting up a legal framework in which they can strip our children down for any random thing, we can attract these people and their useful skill to interest children in learning! I should be a judge man!
God Bless Amerika!! -
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