Seinfeld's Kramer (Racist Tirade Caught On Tape YOUTUBE LINK watch!
youtube.com — Michael Richards exploded in anger as he performed at a famous L.A. comedy club last Friday.. Here is the youtube video!
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- tafkase7en, on 10/12/2007, -91/+10There is a better video posted in the comments of the original story.....
- FunkstarDeLux, on 10/12/2007, -6/+38Then please link it.
- VipeNess, on 10/12/2007, -8/+39whoh! surprised he didnt get his ass kicked, i was waiting for it
- fudged71, on 10/12/2007, -29/+6hilarious!
this is your brain... this is your brain on drugs - mennis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21That's just too bad all the way around.
- gr8one, on 10/12/2007, -15/+69The sad thing is I really think he was trying to make a point.
- Brutis, on 10/12/2007, -28/+12Wow, I heard about this but never thought it'd be that bad, everyone should of left, sad to see people still sitting there after that.
- bot001220, on 10/12/2007, -57/+6Don't worry, we'll catch that ***** outside next time. LA's a big place.
- whiskeymb, on 10/12/2007, -23/+23He'll probably claim later that his comments were only a result of his being drunk... the Mel Gibson defense.
- slicedoranges, on 10/12/2007, -44/+41Can you say freedom of speech? Yet another incident overblown. True, it wasn't nice, but face it: STICKS AND STONES. This is a long forgotten idea these days... People that can't take WORDS that other people say deserve to be made fun of.
- StephenChow, on 10/12/2007, -33/+17I don't get it, they censored ***** but not *****?
- joel8x, on 10/12/2007, -15/+61Gr8one - I agree - it really seems like he was trying to get to a point with the tirade, but it fell apart too quickly and he could not recover. Just because someone goes for the most awful words to offend somebody (face it, if it was a fat woman, he would have attacked that, if it was a balding guy, he would have gone after that...people like to attack the most vulnerable areas) does not mean he is putting down a whole race of people. He called one guy it and meant it towards that one guy - then he started to get to a point about the word but died right there on stage before any sense was made of it.
- gotamd, on 10/12/2007, -41/+13Stop ***** replying to the first comment no matter what it is just so your comments show up at the top. If you're not replying to the comment, then create your own, new comment. It's so annoying whenever I go to the comment section here on Digg to find a ***** of completely unrelated replies to the first comment. Stop it.
- andreo, on 10/12/2007, -28/+8@joel8x:
... If it was a cancer patient, then you attack that. If it was someone that just had a miscarriage, then you attack that. If it was someone that had been raped, then you attack that...
When does the line between clean fun and ignorant behavior get drawn? - adamnikyo, on 10/12/2007, -23/+64@ joel8x
...or he's just a racist. Calling someone fat because they're overweight or calling someone bald because they have no hair is not equal to calling someone a ***** because they're black - even if they're obnoxious and black. That word refers to a name used for a people in another time - a people who were thought to be less than human, and undeserving of the same treatment.
"people like to attack the most vulnerable areas"
Being black should not be considered a vulnerability.
And being black makes you a ***** as much as having no hair makes you stupid. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -8/+78Because we live in a sensationalist society where its more important to see the TMZ logo followed by the seamingly unprovoked racist tirade, we again miss out on the all important context.
Everyone's reporting on the video, but noone is reporting on the events. (possibly because noone knows the events)
What provoked his reaction? the whole video would make sense if the heckler had called him a "cracker" before the video, the same way he called him a "cracker" halfway through the video... People like to jump on board with "yeah i'm against racism too!", but without the context, this video is *worthless* as a tool to judge richards' comments...
Perhaps the whole room was a round up of hollywood's racists, but it seems more likely that he was trying to comment on the double standards that apply when a 'white' guy gets called a cracker, vs when a 'black' guy gets called a '*****'. This seems more likely than any sincere feelings of hatred toward any particular 'race' of people. - se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -26/+51"...or he's just a racist. Calling someone fat because they're overweight or calling someone bald because they have no hair is not equal to calling someone a ***** because they're black - even if they're obnoxious and black. That word refers to a name used for a people in another time - a people who were thought to be less than human, and undeserving of the same treatment."
I hear "black" people call each other ***** all the time, so If it's not okay for a white person to call a "black" person a *****, then maybe you don't want equality... - adamnikyo, on 10/12/2007, -32/+22"I hear "black" people call each other ***** all the time, so If it's not okay for a white person to call a "black" person a *****, then maybe you don't want equality..."
Are you black? Why should you get to decide when an offensive racial slur is ok to use if it doesn't address your race? Just because a lot of black people have decided they want to use that word in a matter they choose, can't it still be incredibly offensive and hurtful to another black person?
...and @ bitcloud:
How can you equate being called a cracker to telling someone "50 years ago, you'd be hung upside down with a fork in your ass"?
The word "Cracker" is an insult with virtually no meaning.
Again, "*****" was the word white people used to address an entire race of people they thought inferior in every sense. That word has a lot of meaning to some people because of that, it's symbolic of a time when they were ***** ENSLAVED. So, because some black people decide to use that word, you think you have some right to decide when it shouldn't be offensive to the rest of them? - TheWorm, on 10/12/2007, -21/+11What a jerk. What shocked me is that some people were laughing..Thank god someone stood up to him. Liked Kramer on seinfeild, the rest of him and his sorry carreer can go to hell.
- joflow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20@slicedoranges
Last time I read the constitution..Freedom of Speech meant being able to speak openly without the threat of prosecution not being able to say dumb ***** without being criticized. He's not getting arrested...his rights weren't violated. - Baconn, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17@adamnikyo
"Being black should not be considered a vulnerability."
Richards could have made fun of the man's short arms, or hairy legs, and no one would have cared. If there were no vulnerability in being black, then calling someone a "*****" wouldn't be so provocative. - adamnikyo, on 10/12/2007, -11/+4@ Baconn
comparing being black to having "short" arms or "hairy" legs suggests there's something abnormal about it. - OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Wow, that's just sad. I feel like he was trying to go somewhere by crossing a line, and completely lost control of everything. He knew it and the crowd knew it.
I feel like he's probably not actually racist (not that this is acceptable behavior), but our soundbite society is going to completely destroy him. Does he deserve it? Maybe.
Sucks. - stevetures, on 10/12/2007, -8/+10wow... end of a career.
guarantee you he'll never work again (significantly). - ssanders, on 10/12/2007, -5/+57Just a quick reality check for everyone:
You realize it is society that makes words bad (back in the day black people wanted to be called negros and if you called them black, you would be considered a racist... now I dare you to say "That negro over there is bothering me").
For the same reasons that "*****" and "*****" are as bad of words now, "boobs" and "vagina" would have had the same level of offensiveness years ago.
The ones to blame for a word being seen as horrible are the ones that propagate it and the ones that are offended by it... the problem with words like "*****" is that the same people who practically keep the word alive are the ones that are offended by it.
Even the other comedian that was there... I forget his name but he has his own show... said that if Richards was black, it would have gone over fine... then he went on to say something that completely disgusted me:
"Freedom of speech has its limits."
Yes, this is true in respect to reality at the moment... but its only true because we make it true. We put the limits on our speech because we like to be victims and the easiest way to do it in our racially-screwed-up-society (blame it on media or on slavery, but either way, move on) is to play race cards.
And before you guys digg me down for sounding like some racist, I'm black.
....actually I'm not black... but if by thinking I was black made this post ok to you... then you are part of the problem. - account, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13Bill Cosby: Poor blacks can't speak English
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38565 - Baconn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@adamnikyo
"comparing being black to having "short" arms or "hairy" legs suggests there's something abnormal about it."
I compared the effects of the two comments. Obviously there is some vulnerability at issue here, or there would have been no reaction to Richards' taunt. - psych0fish, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Why are you guys trying to rationalize what he did? Weather he was making a point or not he crossed the line. I know this guy isn't stupid, and he knew very well what he was saying would be interputed as being rascist.
- se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23I still dont understand:
Why can a black person call anotehr black person a ***** and it's okay
but a white person can't call a black person a ***** without ruining your entire comedy scetch.
I mean really, at my school, black kids call each otehr ***** all the time, and sometimes, they even call white kids *****. Its just an expression, like "hey *****' move out mah way", when they are walking down teh halls. Sometimes I want to stop, and turn around and ask them If I look like I'm a negro.
Soo A black person can call a white person and another black person a *****, but a white person can't do te same thing... talk about hypocritical. If we want equality, we need a White entertainment telivision, where white comedians make fun of black people, and equality in scholarships.
Race != Poor
Race != Disabled
So Race should != Extra Scholarships , and cheaper college.
"African American" clubs are the biggest joke I have ever seen, considering having a single "White Only" club is considered unconstitutional, and illegal at that. I'm calling BS. - CarlosReyes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@ account:
http://www.americanrhetoric.com/speeches/billcosbypoundcakespeech.htm - gr8one, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2If white people spent as much time listening and learning from black people as they do trying to find out why we have black history month and why black people can say *****, they wouldn't need to ask those questions. The questions become irrelevant when you understand even a fraction of black history in this country. Instead they get all they're comfortable knowing about black people from other white people.
I'm no expert on black culture (being that I am white), but I do know one thing. A LOT of white people can get by just fine without knowing anything about black culture. But a lot of black people cannot help but learn about white culture whether they want to or not. They can't get away from it. - ssanders, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13@gr8one
white culture? What channel is that on? I must have missed it. Stop being a victim and have pride.
@psych0fish :
I don't speak for anyone but myself, but I can tell you that I am not rationalizing what Richards said or how he acted.
He did a horrible thing... and that horrible thing was a lame joke... nothing more nothing less.
People should be on the news going "Yeah, he did a crappy joke." not trying to turn this into an issue of race.
Picture this:
Same scenario only the guy on stage is black and the heckler is white. Black guy says exactly what Richards said, only changing out "*****" for "honky" or "cracker". Now, the white heckler... have him act just like the guy in the video and have him storm out saying "That was uncalled for", but instead of "cracker", we flip terms and put in "*****".
I will wager that if a video like that came out with the racial slurs swapped... the majority of you would watch it and the first "offensive slap" to your system would be "Oh my God, he called him a *****!". Most would say he overreacted and its just a comedy show.
Good old double standards.
I'll also wager that if someone could combine a list of 100 statements from KKK members, and 100 phrases/jokes/skits from comedians like Dave Chappel, Chris Rock, and...well... just about any black comedian.... and you take that list of 200 racial phrases and turn it into a game of "who said what".
Strip away who said it, and see what's really hurtful.
Hell, try another social experiment... let's get Chris Rock to show up at some BET event in a KKK outfit and have him tell one of his jokes... then have him strip away the clothing before the riot starts, and it'd go down as one of the funniest skits ever.
It comes down to the fact that the world wants to move on, but some people want to hold onto the "history", yet they don't want to hear it... especially if it includes any truth.
I choose not to limit my thoughts, vocabulary, life, and personal liberties to satisfy the insanities of close minded people who have pre-judged my intentions based on the color of my skin.
Just remember.. it's not a stereotype if it is statistically true. - bobbknight, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This whole thing blows, the cracker calling the black, ***** and the black calling the snowflake, cracker.
And all the f bombs *****. - krux, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2It's not against the law to offend someone. Sure what he said was shocking. So what.
- subESC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I am so sick and tired of people using the "Why isn't there a White Entertainment Television station?" question to try to express inequality among races. Seriously, you'll sound insightful by presenting your own observations rather than regurgitating some recycled crap that everyone has already heard.
With that said, it is offensive for blacks to hear the N word when it is presented in a certain manner. I may not agree with the fact that the word is acceptable under certain contexts, but I still live with it. If it doesn't offend the person, then why should you care?Michael Richards was OBVIOUSLY not trying to use the word in its acceptable context. If you think that his rant is justified by the fact that the slurs he used are acceptable in different situations, then you have some serious issues.
His tirade was a blatant attack on an entire race that has worked very hard to gain the respect that they have received (from many) over the past few decades.
We still don't know what exactly spawned his rant, but I still don't think that it would justify spewing out the nonsense that he did. People do make mistakes and I am sure that Michael Richards realizes that he made a big one.
- archlich, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32Google Video link: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=3159127191960661978&q=kramer+racist
- shug7272, on 10/12/2007, -18/+28Bwahahahaha... you go out in public and disrespect people dont cry like a bitch when they disrespect you back. Go Kramer, screw those whiney lil girls. I dont care what language you use, if you are being disrespectful you deserve to get delt with... and Kramer delt. LMAO
- se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -9/+46I like how you never see white peope go on some BET comedy show, and when somone makes a joke about white people, no matter how funny/unfunny it is, they never stand up, and scream "that was uncalled for" repeatedly like it's the only words in their vocab.
- kelp, on 10/12/2007, -20/+12se1zure,
You must have forgot to factor in the fact that Kramer wasn't joking.
Look, this is at least 20x worse than a joke on a white person on Club Comic View. By him spewing out ***** a hundred times, it's basically telling the all the Blacks in the audience of their past and unfortunate history.
While when a black person makes a joke about a white person on Club Comic View, it's about something minor like eating food or something. - quamb, on 10/12/2007, -18/+6maybe because the white man ain't got the same history? ... yeah maybe that.
- Rezzy, on 10/12/2007, -17/+14Unbelievable. I have lost all respect for him, and what he said cannot be defended. There was no reason for that, even the heckler interrupting. This is just another celebrity who thinks he's above it all and can get away with anything he wants. I plan to boycott anything Michael Richards because of this - not that he's got anything coming anyway. Disgusting.
/rant - ShrimpCrackers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22quamb said, "maybe because the white man ain't got the same history? ... yeah maybe that."
You mean like Jews?
Why are you generalizing against an entire group of people that happen to have lighter skin color?
I'm Asian, and even I can tell how obvious it is against White people when I watch Apollo or BET or listen to Hot 97. 99.5FM gets really bad here in NYC at night.
I've seen lots of black people accuse the entire "White Race" of enslaving them. In fact, I hear it quite often on 99.5FM. But that's not the case at all. Isn't that like reverse racism? Its kinda disgusting to hear a man whom has had his ancestors victimized, generalizing against an entire race. Its entirely counterproductive to your argument. - captainraeburn, on 10/12/2007, -5/+32@quamb
I'm pretty Goddamn tired of black people playing the slave card, mainly because there's not a people in the whole history of the world who weren't at one point subjected to adversity based solely on the culture they were born into.
If we were getting into a pissing contest, which we're not, my ancestors, the Scots and the Irish, the WHITE MAN, were subjected to slavery longer than any other race in the history of the world. Take your couple hundred years and go home. - thehans, on 10/12/2007, -6/+7No wonder that show he had with Tim Meadows didn't take off.
- asdfkane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@metra23
actually, it's not to gain 'attention', but to 're-claim' the term from the mouth of the oppressor. this notion presents itself time and time again--for example, today, 'queer' is no longer a derogatory word for homosexuals, nor is 'gay'. at one time, they were.
once re-claimed by the subjugated people, its use by them becomes empowering, as if to stand up against the oppressor as if to say 'you're not better than me, and you can't put me down using that word because i took it from you.'
that's really a colloquial way of putting it....but it's basic theory of oppression. hope that helps. - DatoeDakari, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1What show?
(sarcasm)
- TiCL, on 10/12/2007, -69/+16It was very funny! Truth is always funny.
- thefutureisours, on 10/12/2007, -11/+71wow! he sure is a good actor. you'd think he was like racist or something?
- Azur2, on 10/18/2007, -3/+64Wow... That's a pretty impressive meltdown.
- MikeOSX, on 10/12/2007, -12/+187The stupid thing is when the audience starts throwing racist remarks back at him. Does that not prove that the people in the audience are no better than he is?
- JeffH, on 10/12/2007, -4/+98I agree. If you're going to take huge offense to racial slurs, you just make yourself look like a hypocrite when you answer those slurs with more racism. What he said was wrong, no doubt about that, but so was the fan's response.
- eean, on 10/12/2007, -6/+48I don't think they were getting on his case for not being politically correct. They were just genuinely offended.
- TiCL, on 10/12/2007, -63/+2"Racism is 10 times worse than rape." - Culexor
- Railer, on 10/18/2007, -14/+56OK this brings up a question I've wondered for years, why can't you offend a white person with a racial slurs? It's sort of a sociology thing but I've noticed you can offend every other group of people, Jews, Chinese, Blacks Hispanics in western or eastern countries, but not whites, even where white people are the minority, you can scare them with racial language, but not offend them. Whites seem to take every slur as a badge of honor like cracker, whitey, or honky. Don't get me wrong you can offend white people, just not racially.
My only guess is as a people as a whole, they have never been oppressed by another race. Just a thought. - johnners, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Well, actually I think you usually throw these things back on people to show how bloody-minded they are as assertions in the first place. You call someone a stupid white man only because someone has labelled you with a title socially and historically abhorant initially. That's retarded, the reflection shows it.
I'm troubled by this clip. However, I'd like to have seen the whole show, for a realistic context. - XopherMV, on 10/12/2007, -11/+19Yeah, the audience is just as racist as he is. They certainly didn't waste any time throwing racially charged remarks back at him. I don't care what your skin color is, if you use terms like "*****" or "cracker" when referring to someone of a different color, then you are a racist.
Certainly, we can't expect all our entertainers to be educated and enlightened. But, Michael Richards knows better than spouting off in public like this. Even being washed up and his career already over, Richards just put the nails in that coffin. - eljaysun, on 10/12/2007, -11/+28I think the audience handled it pretty well. It would be a mess of curse words and screaming had Kramer tried to pull that crap on me. Saying "That was uncalled for" was an excellent response. Sure, they did call him a cracker-ass mofo wash-up, but that was after Michael earned it.
Well done, faceless audience member. - metra23, on 10/12/2007, -7/+45I'm not sure I was watching the same clip you were.
Now, (non black) comedians use the word ***** all the time to attract attention. It's usually a poor technique but I don't care nor does anyone else. Why? Because it's part of an act. What I saw was someone who was obviously racist. The act was up with Michael Richards. I'm a huge Seinfeld fan and that's just upsetting to see. Sure, they interrupted him but then he showed his true colors. He showed that he's an ignorant man who seems like he's living in Birmingham in the 1950's.
"50 years ago you were hanging upside down from a tree with a fork up your ass."
I dunno about you guys, but I see the difference between calling someone ***** and actually being racist. - volcompimp, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6Excellent pont... I just asking myself the same question. Now if a black person were to call a white guy a cracker or another racial slur, and the white guy were to right away start calling him a *****, the attention would turn back to the white guy so quick. It's hypocritical. I think he should of gotten away w/ that too, what a piece of ***** audience. If you're on stage you should have the freedom to say whatever the ***** you want, it's your show.
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+41@Railer:
As a white person of Irish descent, this is my best guess.
White people, as you said, haven't been suppressed as a whole. I can tell you the Irish sure were when they started coming to America. The term mick would be pretty much equivalent to *****, right? I wouldn't really get offended though, because there aren't any traces of that suppression left. No one is going to beat me up, or refuse me a job because I have Irish blood.
Black people still do struggle for equality. Not so much legally, but socially. And because that struggle is so real, the racial slur packs a very real punch. - indulgence, on 10/12/2007, -21/+9@Railer
Jew isn't an ethnicity - it is a religion. White people can be Jewish.
kthxbai - Blah_Blah_Blah, on 10/12/2007, -10/+12@indulgence
its actually both. kthxbai - Cykaos, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@indulgence it's also an ethnicity. You can be Jewish by ethnicity but not religion. There are many distinguishing physical traits of Jewish people as the ethnicity that have nothing to do with religion.
- Misanthrope, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Oh I do love it when someone says some arrogant ***** like "kthxbai" and make a complete ass of themselves because THEY were wrong. Oh it just about makes my whole day better.
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@indulgence: Want to know the definition of a 'jew'?
http://www.richgentlemenhide.com/comic/anti-semantism/ - Wartyboskfapped, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2calling someone a 'cracker' is in no way anything like using the term '*****'. Not even close.
- MikeOSX, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10I really dont see how it is fair for a black comedian to do an entire show geared towards dissing the white race, yet a white comedian says something even remotely offensive and it causes an uproar.
I'm not defending Michael Richards by any means, just making a point. - diggadong, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14"Black people still do struggle for equality."
Tell that to oprah, eddy murphy, 99% of the NBA and half of the artists owned by sony.
These days, if you are good enough you get paid, and get paid well.
This "struggling for equality" ***** is just an excuse used by lazy morons. - steveoco, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"Well, actually I think you usually throw these things back on people to show how bloody-minded they are as assertions in the first place. You call someone a stupid white man only because someone has labelled you with a title socially and historically abhorant initially. That's retarded, the reflection shows it."
Its because white is the default. it's like how you cant make fun of water for tasting bad.
It also means you have no frame of reference and therefore no argument when it comes to debate about colour or racism. Your argument weight becomes nil.
It's hard to make a point when you have no weight :( - kimchimonkey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Your telling me that what he said was justified cause the other guy called him a white. How ignorant are you to live in this society and ignore 200 years of history. The word has a direct link to slavery. Its ignorant to stand up as comedian and make a remark like that, no matter what someone in the crowd does. Your supposed to be professional.
- CardinalFang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@ Railer
I'm white and I went to an almost all-black middle school. Maybe 3 other white kids including myself. There was a select group of black kids that didn't like me because I'm white. I've been called cracker, white devil, honky, you name it. It never bothered me because I knew they had nothing else to come at me with.
- outbreakofevil, on 10/12/2007, -19/+28Holy *****. What a psycho.
- tuxidomasx, on 10/12/2007, -21/+11that guy's an ass
- chaimpot0k, on 10/12/2007, -34/+2Dupe of the year! The original story is what, one page back?
There are links to youtube, google, etc all in that story. Sheesh- incognit0, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18This is a watchable youtube link. The post before was linked to the TMZ player which didn't work for me (and I'm assuming others as well).
- oddmanout, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10right, it was asking me to install an active x plugin, i use firefox.
- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+25Isn't he a little old now to be snorting down 8-balls? Can't imagine someone could act like that without a ***** load of drugs.
- tygut1, on 10/18/2007, -2/+9That's the first thing I thought of, what is he on?
- Wartyboskfapped, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3He's a coke head.
- berfmurret, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1completely my reaction as well. 'oh.. i didnt realize he snorted coke'..
i second guessed my inital reaction and thought maybe he was drunk. but he looks too wired and his speech isnt slurred...
- naiku, on 10/12/2007, -4/+15original post:
http://digg.com/celebrity/Seinfeld_s_Kramer_Michael_Richards_Racist_Tirade_Caught_On_Tape
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Über-direct link:
http://pdl.stream.aol.com/aol/us/aolentertainment/30mz/2006_11/1120_richards_2_dl.mov
EDIT: I'd YouTube it, but Websense is being websensetastic. - Eleo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+55Awkward. Watching Seinfeld will never be the same.
- gr4v3d1gg3r, on 10/12/2007, -15/+22I will never be able to laugh at him again
- Suits, on 10/12/2007, -5/+26For real. He's a great actor, no question. Unfortunately, he's an ass in real life. It's one thing to say "Oh a white guy drives like this and a Black drives like this," It's another to scream *****/white-cracker, so obscenely, over and over again like he did.
- whiskeymb, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7@suits:
I'll agree with everything except him being a good actor. he's not, he had one shtick routine and that's it... - KenOh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Plenty of famous and/or "successful" people are asses in real life. Get over it.
Good example being Wilford Brimley, often portraying sweet, grandfatherly figures, is in fact a huge ass in real life. I have friends who live near him and would see him in town every once in a while. They say he's the biggest dick possible to everyone in public. - apunkrockmonk, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1Yea, it just got better. Glad to see someone not afraid to stand up for themselves and to speak their mind.
- Maascamp, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6I really used to enjoy Seinfeld. I don't know if I can anymore. What was on that video is not some comedian pointing out quirky things about black people, it was vitriolic hate. He meant what he said, there was no humor about it.
Every comedian gets heckled. It's the mark of a good comedian to roll with it and flip it on the heckler. Michael Richards is apparently not a good comedian. The audience member who calls him a cracker is no better, any form of racial slur is something to be frowned upon.
People need to stop saying, "it's OK for a black guy to say this, but not a white guy." IT'S NOT OK! If a black guy calls you a cracker then tell him that's uncalled for. Don't use it to justify lowering yourself to that level. All racism is disgusting and needs to stop.
- seeprompt, on 10/12/2007, -12/+18wow....thats sad....poor kramer =[
- transeunte, on 10/18/2007, -11/+71Why'd you say that, Michael? Why?
You're my hero. And you say something dirty. Like poop. Poop mouth.
I hate you Michael Richards, I hate you. ;(- jizzle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Excellent use of an Anchorman quote :)
- elbeano, on 10/12/2007, -18/+60if this were a video of any famous minority getting pissed at a white guy in the audience, it would NEVER get two separate stories on the front page in the same day, or so much as a video on you tube
- floppyparty, on 10/12/2007, -16/+29Honestly, it's not the same.
How is a white guy/girl going to get offended in American with racial slurs.
"Yo white guy, you're so white!" Come on.
Culturally, being white in the US means lacking an ethnicity, and everyone else, Black, Asian, Hispanic, etc is a deviation from that. Hence, it's very hard to slander what is the norm.
Now in a different country, or in an area where being white is a social minority, that may be different. This is my perspective as a 1/2 Korean, 1/2 white guy. - elbeano, on 10/12/2007, -7/+34People get offended by the intent. I am offended every time I flip past a channel on tv where a comedian is making any sort of jokes based on race.
I marvel at how Carlos Mencia and Chris Rock couldn't use 80% of their act if they were white. This is racism, period.
It wouldn't make the news if a rapper called someone a cracker at a concert, or if Chris Rock referred to some heckler in his audience as a peckerwood. Not only that, but neither would surprise me. Why is only shocking and news worthy when a white is racist? - ActionJeans, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18@floppyparty
/quote "How is a white guy/girl going to get offended in American with racial slurs.
"Yo white guy, you're so white!" Come on. /end quote
I think "cracker a$$ mo-fo" pretty much does it for me, every single time, thank you. And I say this as a German/Welsh American. Also known as 'a white guy'.
Also, whitey, honky (well, OK, honky I just find funny), and 'white boy' to be specific racial epitaphs I find really, really offensive.
I have no problem with someone pointing at me and saying "wow, you're really white". But that's never happened to me, ever. The above slanders have, and I usually take it about as well as the gentlemen in the audience did. - donjaime, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8@floppyparty
You hit the nail RIGHT on the head man. I grew up in a country where whites are the minority, and I can tell you from personal experience, that racial slurs DO offend. - cmholm, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5To see the flip side of euro-american reaction to ethnic slurs, you need to check out regions where they aren't the overwhelming majority, ie. Hawaii. How someone reacts to being called 'haole', told 'haole go home', etc seems to fit closely with their level of paranoid that the 'locals' are trying to slip them the wiennie. One haole to another, get over it and be a man.
- cpuenvy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+6"Honestly, it's not the same.
How is a white guy/girl going to get offended in American with racial slurs.
"Yo white guy, you're so white!" Come on."
Give me a break. It is bad either way, and there is no what if or maybe. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6thats funny floppy party because kramer is a "jew" (whatever that means) one of the most persecuted 'races' in the history of the world....
There is no question of lack of equivalence... - diggadong, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4"being white in the US means lacking an ethnicity"
I don't think you know what ethnicity means.
- floppyparty, on 10/12/2007, -16/+29Honestly, it's not the same.
- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -24/+44Im glad i wasnt the only one who noticed that MikeOSX.
http://search.conduit.com/Search.aspx?ctid=CT329536&uslang=500&SearchType=SearchWeb&q=cracker%20meaning
Calling a black person a "*****" isnt allowed, but calling a white person "cracker" is perfectly fine? What a bunch of f**king hypocrites.- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -33/+39The n word was used by white slaveowners to refer to black slaves. When a white person uses it today, it brings to mind not only the murderous, hateful legacy of our segregationist past, but also implies an enduring master-slave relationship between whites and blacks. It is the most potent word in the English language; no other single word is capable of provoking such emotion.
Cracker is a funny-sounding replacement for "honky", used by black people in the past twenty years to jokingly refer to white people. It has no history, does not carry a legacy of violence, and white people are not offended by it (if they even know what it means).
The two terms are not comparable, and all of this relativism sickens me. - tharju, on 10/12/2007, -17/+18yea, back in those days balck people forced white farmers to pick cotton for them and if they don't they called them crackers and whipped them to death.
Racism is wrong in any level. Defending the racist makes you no betther than a racist. Now sit in the corner and think for a second. - headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+21Can't think of a single white person who would be offended by the word "cracker" or "honkey". Can't think of a single black person who wouldn't be offended by the N word. Everyone knows this. So there is a big difference.
Calling a black guy the N word, I think, really dredges up some deep seeded anger, resentment, and depression. It's gotta hurt.
Calling some white guy a cracker is nothing. That's almost reinforcing the stereotype that the white guy is in charge. Doesn't hurt one bit. - elbeano, on 10/12/2007, -15/+10@Gerz
I'm going to go ahead and hand out the most ironic thing ever posted in a Digg discussion award to
"The two terms are not comparable, and all of this relativism sickens me."
if relativism sickens you, why compare things? - transeunte, on 10/12/2007, -6/+14I have to agree that 'cracker' and '*****' have very different meanings. I am white and I definitely don't feel offended by the first. However, I understand that '*****' has a very strong meaning in the very racist society we live in.
The fact that black friends call each other "*****" - in an affective way -, doesn't change what I said above. I don't let strangers treat me like my friends do - and yeah, that's a double standard for sure. - grnarrow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14@Gerz
"Cracker is a funny-sounding replacement for "honky", used by black people in the past twenty years to jokingly refer to white people. It has no history, does not carry a legacy of violence, and white people are not offended by it (if they even know what it means)."
Actually, the term cracker does have quite a history, it's just been co-opted in recent years as a slur.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_cracker - JohnnyKinder, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@Gerz1219 check up the Latin term for black, also, don't ever say that the term cracker doesn't mean that to some people, I was a white kid in a very black school....most people will not understand that black people, Asian people, Mexican people, are just as racist as your average white guy, ***** thing for us white kids in public school systems, because when those groups get together, they have one common enemy. And, next time, take a look at the history of the term and the history of slave trade, as both were started by the tribes leaders in Africa.
(Not defending any remarks the comedian said) ;) - ActionJeans, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9@ both Gertz & Headzoo
I tell you what, you've met one. I am a 'white guy', and the term 'cracker' offends me, as I have posted above. Tell you what. Why don't you not tell me what not to be offended by, and I won't tell you what not to be offended by, K?
I really am disgusted by racism in any form. Any single time any person can demean a person to make them in such a way as to make them less 'human' than themselves, well, we all know what that can bring about, don't we. All the atrocities that have occurred regarding human rights throughout history have all had the cornerstone attached that made the person who was the victim thought of by the masses as less than human.
I know the hatred and venom coming out of someones mouth when they shout 'cracker' or 'white boy', and you better believe it pisses me off. I don't have to tolerate it, not in the slightest. And while you can justify it all you like, there isn't a valid argument in the world you can bring against me, that tells me I shouldn't be offended by it. The very statements are CALCULATED to offend.
Racism, like it or not, works both ways. I despise it in all forms. Make sure you do too. - bdrydyk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I really don't understand how people see this as an opportunity to point out some perceived double standard.
So, yes, a single person in the audience that none of us know responded by calling him a cracker, when most of the audience decided to show their disapproval by quietly leaving. Possibly this unknown man is a racist, or maybe he just overreacted in attempt to belittle Richards. Either way, I don't care.
The point here is not that the word ***** is worse than cracker, but instead that a seemingly well like comedian has shown himself to be horribly racist. - headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3"Why don't you not tell me what not to be offended by, and I won't tell you what not to be offended by, K?"
Why don't you re-read my statement, specifically the part about "Can't think of a single white person who would be offended by the word "cracker" or "honkey"."
Never once did I tell you, or any other white guy, what they should be offended by. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@bdry
People are using it as an illustration of double standards because the 'act' itself was meant to drunkenly illustrate the double standards...
the very fact that it's reported shows the HUGE double standards.. I would be willing to put money on the heckler having said "cracker" promptin michaels into his poorly conceived tirade...
It's more likely to be a poor attempt at making a point, than any real deep seeded hatred michaels has toward any groups of people - Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5@grnarrow -- Yeah, looked up that very article on Wikipedia after I wrote my post. I'd say that the etymology is very unclear, however, and it certainly doesn't seem to have arrived at it's current connotation (i.e., a derogatory term for all white people) until very recently. If anything, I think my ignorance of the term's origins is proof of its innocuousness. I bet there isn't one black person in America that doesn't know the history and meaning of the n-word.
@elbeano -- I was using the word "relativism" as short-hand for "moral relativism". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_relativism. There's nothing ironic about my comment; it really bothers me when people take the relativist stance to avoid defending their beliefs (in this case, the idea that white people and black people are both racist in their own ways, so there's no difference between Michael Richards' grotesque hate-filled diatribe and a Dave Chappelle stand-up act).
@ActionJeans -- Well, fine, you have a right to be offended by the word "cracker", and it's not right for black people to go there. I just feel that black people ought to have something that passes as a comeback for the n-word. When a white person calls a black person a *****, they're saying, "You are less than human, and I will always own you." When a black person calls a white person a cracker, they're saying, "I resent the control you have over my life, so I'm going to make fun of you." It's not really the same thing. The heckler might deserve a karmic slap on the wrist, but Michael Richards deserves a karmic case of raging hemorrhoids. - Aggaman, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Shutup Actionjeans ya stupid cracker.
- Gerz1219, on 10/12/2007, -33/+39The n word was used by white slaveowners to refer to black slaves. When a white person uses it today, it brings to mind not only the murderous, hateful legacy of our segregationist past, but also implies an enduring master-slave relationship between whites and blacks. It is the most potent word in the English language; no other single word is capable of provoking such emotion.
- contradictator, on 10/12/2007, -3/+18That is some messed up *****. I dunno if he was joking, he didn't really have anything to follow-up with...
I can't condone what he said, but man, this is a fine example of the problems still dividing races: that deep-rooted bitterness and tension.
But honestly, Kramer's had better days..- headzoo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Eventually all those fools will die off. Just gotta pray they don't pass the hatred down to the next generation.
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yeah, the guy saying this is why he's been in nothing since Seinfeld was right. Kramer was a good character. There's a huge distinction between a well defined character and a good actor. A good actor can do any number of roles, and this guy was just Kramer.
- happycat, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1Yeah, the guy saying this is why he's been in nothing since Seinfeld was right. Kramer was a good character. There's a huge distinction between a well defined character and a good actor. A good actor can do any number of roles, and this guy was just Kramer
You know, I really hate it when people talk about actors, musicians, or whoever, and say "they've done nothing since..." just because they've fallen off the persons' radar. He was one of the biggest characters on one of the biggest sitcoms of all time, was making millions per episode, and is recognized worldwide. I think that is more than anyone reading this article will accomplish. Where the hell do you do from there? And why does he have to be something all the time? Maybe he just wants to do standup.
- hiney, on 10/12/2007, -21/+9Waaa he called him a ***** Waaaa.
Turn on the radio right now and you'll hear that word. Get over it.
Really he probably was just joking but his pissed tone made it sound more serious. I'd be pissed too if I was trying to do my act and there were people yackin' it up in the front. - iloveazngurlzs, on 10/12/2007, -29/+9***** ***** *****
***** ***** *****
***** ***** *****
***** ***** *****
***** ***** *****
***** ***** *****
it was used to describe poor white englishman first you greedy black people. if some one can use chink, cracker, red neck, hick, gook, and all the other damn racial slurs, ***** is perfectly acceptable, infact, they still call themselves that, so they promote the use of it.
Like Chris Rock Says, "Theres Black people, and then theres *****'s!"- diagonalfish, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9It's not so much what you say as the meaning and emotion behind it. And there can be no doubt that Richards meant it to be interpreted in the worst way possible.
- spyrochaete, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2***** is a derogatory abbreviation for "ignorant".
- PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -12/+8Is it considered racism? He needed something to call the guy who kept interrupting him, so he went for the most offensive thing he could think of. How he didn't think it would cause that much of a scene, I don't know.
- riah, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10Well, he also referred to lynching the man before throwing slanders.
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14At first I thought he was just doing a shock approach to get the audiences, but when he said "That's what you get when you interrupt a white man" ... I think that was true racism.
- bluemist, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6If he's a real good comedian he can make the point across without any racial slur, and maybe even make a laugh out of it.
- PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"If he's a real good comedian he can make the point across without any racial slur, and maybe even make a laugh out of it." He's not. That's why he decided to just anger the guy as much as he angered him. I was just asking a question, though. And you're right.
- toolow, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8bad form man, bad form.
- JavertHolmes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32Is there no video that shows the precursor to his rant?
- BedlamX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I too would like to see the events that set him off.
- bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10No, it's more important that we judge his comments without context...
Why let the truth get in the way of a good public lynching...
- YKKonMyZipper, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5To any one is trying to pull "he said cracker after" you need to realize that white people where not called crackers for 500+ years when they where never in slaved. I also don't think it justifies it, but its different ballpark. and lil FYI, most don't know this
Cracker is short for "whip cracker".
whip cracker = the guy who was in charge of slaves on the plantation
I don't really see how that's offensive when a black man directs it at any whitey who just called him *****.
(not sure if that is 100% true)- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6YKKonMyZipper - "Whitey"
Whats up, blackie? - JeremyCade, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17What are you talking about, never enslaved.. Go study the history books. Every race, creed and culture have been a enslaved at some point..
- davodavo, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5@JeremyCade
White people have never been enslaved and oppressed based on their race. - subhuman, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2they say cracker because crackers (as in the biscuits you eat) are white - thats why u get "cracker-ass/white-ass", nothing to do with whips...
- ProximaC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2http://athena.english.vt.edu/~appalach/essaysA/cracker.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_cracker - vitriolix, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6um... perhaps you've heard of a segment of the population called "the jews"?
- ProximaC, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6"um... perhaps you've heard of a segment of the population called "the jews"?"
They weren't enslaved or oppressed because they were white, but because they were Jews.
Hitler, as you might remember, wanted a pure white race, aka the Aryans. He liked whites, but hated Jews. - bitcloud, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1and yet they were both "crackers"
- Wartyboskfapped, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2'cracker' comes from an old english term meaning braggart (someone who brags) & later melded with a term for poor farmers who cracked corn or nuts. It was used as a proud term of origin by many white people from southern states, you can even see fruit cartons with the term on it.
The same is not true of the term '*****'.
- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -12/+6YKKonMyZipper - "Whitey"
- Mugsleymug, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2can i read the dialogue anywhere?
- bUND, on 10/12/2007, -15/+4That's what they get for interrupting the white man...
- Panthereater, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13Looks like i won't be seeing him on BET this weekend.
- AnonPirate, on 10/12/2007, -35/+9Honestly, Is this what passes for news? He wasn't being racist, he's perfectly right, he's talking about how a simple word like ***** pisses of everyone. He got to prove his point, because the '*****' got pissed off, and started throwing slurs right back at him, even though it wasn't directed at them.
GG you stupid *****.- diagonalfish, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Whoa. Um. Blocked.
- DeathNoodle, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1gg ***** indeed.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5I'd really like to see what set him off like that. We need that video to start about 2 or 3 minuets earlier then what it did. Not that I'm saying that theirs ANY excuse for what he did.
- Wartyboskfapped, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They were talking thru his performance. There was no racist insults sent at him. They were talking all the way thru, & he complained, then the one guy (one of the black dudes who were talking) said something like "hey, you're not funny," which is the final straw which sent Richards off on his completely wild rant.
There is no context for Richard's behaviour that justifies it. I've been in the entertainment biz (behind the scenes) for years. I've watched performers from all levels from the backstage, seen the techniques. Dealing with hecklers is stand-up 101. He blew it, big time.
- Wartyboskfapped, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3They were talking thru his performance. There was no racist insults sent at him. They were talking all the way thru, & he complained, then the one guy (one of the black dudes who were talking) said something like "hey, you're not funny," which is the final straw which sent Richards off on his completely wild rant.
- everfresh59, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15NEWFLASH: Michael Richards and Mel Gibson now best friends!!
- mrhaines, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Kramer: Ooooo tough crowd.
- overstre, on 10/18/2007, -3/+36That, my friends, was a brilliant example of how to commit career suicide.
- sugrloafah, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Yeah, it's almost like he took lessons from Mel Gibson.
- PhantomBantam, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I thought it was the typecasting which did so many years ago
- TheToecutter, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Sooooo, does this throw a wrench in a possible Seinfeld reunion? DOH! Jerry seems pretty pissed about it.
- bUND, on 10/12/2007, -21/+13Q: How do you starve a *****?
A: Hide his foodstamps under his work-boots- BedlamX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I am not condoning what you just wrote because I personally didn't find it funny. But I also didn't dig you down because what you wrote and what Chris Rock says in every stand up concert he has ever had is no different. I don't know your ethnicity, but why is it acceptable when CR does this type of thing? Everyone laughs at CR , but if a non African American does the same thing they call that person a racist.
Side Note: I personally don't even think the term Racist is accurate simply because I believe we are all of the same race with different ethnicity's of that race.
- BedlamX, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I am not condoning what you just wrote because I personally didn't find it funny. But I also didn't dig you down because what you wrote and what Chris Rock says in every stand up concert he has ever had is no different. I don't know your ethnicity, but why is it acceptable when CR does this type of thing? Everyone laughs at CR , but if a non African American does the same thing they call that person a racist.
- JoeWindetc, on 10/12/2007, -7/+17Lost respect for the Kramer.
- tg16, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7At least his next audience will be a little more courteous to him.
- jackspade, on 10/12/2007, -7/+8if there IS a next audience
- mrfreeziexp, on 10/12/2007, -12/+11I heard that many kids are calling each other "*****" now.. As a common slang word. Don't call me racist, just trying to smooth this out..
- NewChar, on 10/12/2007, -17/+12It's cool, no biggy *****.
- muleking, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5as awful and uncomfortable as it is, its on stage, and yes, that is an excuse.
Comedy is tasteless and brutal, and while this isn't particularly funny, it is in some derranged way artistic expression. - daxmax, on 10/12/2007, -10/+3The word ***** in my opinion , is just another racial wall between blacks and everyone else. They can use it but no else can? I find the word as some impassable barrier that only if I am black I can use? Isn't that racial in itself?
I am disappointed at Richards because as a comedian he couldn't control his crowd, and he had to get personal & racially slur them (possibly with racial hate ) to try to shut them up.
For everyone who thinks that Richards is racist he possibly is, but what he did here I believe here is the why the word ***** should be stricken, it is one of the most known words to immediately cause a divide, and you can feel the depth of it's impact on the crowd the moment it's uttered. - UCFmethod, on 10/12/2007, -11/+7Who gives a *****.. This smells of "taken out of context" and is being spun to appear racist. I would like to have seen that 5-10 minutes before he starts screaming *****.
- davodavo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11And ignore the fact that he started screaming "*****"?
In what context would that be acceptable? - muleking, on 10/12/2007, -6/+10Hmmm... on BET, with a black comic on stage.
- UCFmethod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@davodavo
right now you stupid *****
- davodavo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+11And ignore the fact that he started screaming "*****"?
- Plato, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1heh he will prolly run as a Democrat speaker of the house in a few years :)
- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5"Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names will never hurt me."
Works for me. *shrug*- planckscale, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2I agree, this is mostly just playground antics by two people who need to grow up. Let MR do his act, stop heckling and if the heckling persists, MR needs to find a more tactful way of dispelling the situation (like asking security to kick the disrespectful heckler out). Everyone makes mistakes, and MR should publicly apologise just like the playground monitor would have made him. (and he should spend some time in detention too).
- Tordenflesk, on 10/12/2007, -13/+8So him calling a dude ***** is horrible, but the black dude calling him a cracker, a washup and saying that: "Seinfeld, that's it" I mean COME ON! Reverse racism *****!
- standalonematt, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11C'mon the guy was seriously offended and when we are angry we sometimes react in less than civilized ways. Fighting fire with fire ... I doubt he went to the club thinking "I am going to call him a cracker"
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Pointing out his failed career is not a racial slur.
- sathias, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What failed career? He was one of the most popular characters from one of the most successful comedy series in history. Seinfeld (the man) hasn't done too much since Seinfeld (the show) either, they don't need to.
It is definately saddening to see him act like this though, well out of line. Stanley Spadowski certainly wouldn't act like that :-)
- spongeworthy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+4I heard Mel Gibson paid him huge bucks to do this so that the heat would be off him.
- standalonematt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Its too bad Dave Chapelle no longer has a show - I would have loved to see what he would have done with this. I am sure he would have put Michael Richards in everyday situations (like at the grocery store or post office) spewing racist crap.
- johnners, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15@standalonematt
Absolutely. Chapelle - now there is one black comedian who plays the racist card in the cleverest way I've ever seen. Truly subversive, always relevant without the anger which easily obscures the argument. My favourite was when he did the fake show about the family who "just so happened" to have the surname "*****". Cue lots of racial sterotypes taken completely out of context in pretty much one of the cleverest plays with language I can remember on a sketch / standup show. So much more than mere backlash. Excellent.
- johnners, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15@standalonematt
- Aliarse, on 10/12/2007, -8/+7"And ignore the fact that he started screaming "*****"?
In what context would that be acceptable?"
When you're a black man on the "streets, hanging wit ya homies?"... ;)- davodavo, on 10/12/2007, -8/+3I don't ever recall hearing a black person call another black person a "*****" in an acceptable context aside from being intentionally ironic and tongue-in-cheek. "*****" is a different word, and doesn't carry the same horrible connotations as "*****".
- everfresh59, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15Let me clear this all up for all you "caucasians" who are confused......
http://www.eminem.net/other/video/term_nigga_vs_nigger/- Plato, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6hahhhahaha! thats ***** great!
"Wetback? ok, that is available"
hahahah you rock - FischerDK, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Nope, sorry. Same word. Having it considered acceptable coming from a (fellow) black but unacceptable otherwise is somewhat hypocritical.
Interestingly enough, have you ever heard of any other ethnic group using an ethnic slur to refer to each other and considering it acceptable? I can't say that I have, and I don't understand why the word '*****' is used in such a fashion... - davodavo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Here's an explanation:
It's a different word with a different connotation! - pgm_01, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2If he were Black would this be a ***** Moment?
Boondocks ***** Moment
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFlcoyfpm_c
It would seem to fit, maybe it would be a Cracker Moment?
If you listen carefully after the remark about being arrested for calling a black man a *****, someone in the audience calls him a peckerwood http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peckerwood
There were plenty of racial slurs being hurled.
- Plato, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6hahhhahaha! thats ***** great!
- ccourt23, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6"Rodriguez, also at the news conference, said: "I kept expecting a punch line. It didn't come."
Veteran publicist Michael Levine, whose clients have included famed comedians George Carlin, Sam Kinison and Rodney Dangerfield, called Richards' remarks inexcusable. Comics often face hecklers without losing their cool, he said."
http://tv.msn.com/tv/article.aspx?news=242590- FischerDK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Indeed, I believe one of the characteristics of a good comedian is the ability to handle hecklers in a 'friendly' fashion, i.e. not stopping to their level, being mean/vicious, or making the audience laugh AT them. Instead, a good comedian can keep the mood light and hopefully even get the heckler to laugh at the whole situation and then steer the talk back to his routine.
I have NO idea what MR was thinking....
- FischerDK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Indeed, I believe one of the characteristics of a good comedian is the ability to handle hecklers in a 'friendly' fashion, i.e. not stopping to their level, being mean/vicious, or making the audience laugh AT them. Instead, a good comedian can keep the mood light and hopefully even get the heckler to laugh at the whole situation and then steer the talk back to his routine.
- tjlsmith, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Not to worry - he's one of The World's Best People so inside of a week the other members of his tribe will bury this in their media, as the World's Best People are above good and evil.
That's for us cattle. - boobies, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3cnn story: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvrvBPg64LA
- zapco03, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You guys really need to start using Dailymotion instead of youtube. Video's dead.
- MrJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -7/+5You know, they could have just gotten up and left and demanded their money back. But instead they had to ruin the show for everyone else.
- FischerDK, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3From the murmurs coming from the rest of the audience, I think it was already ruined for them. They were looking for some comedic rationale for his statements, something to make it into something other than racist, but nobody could. Even if MR had continued his routine and the hecklers left after the first couple rounds of verbal assault, the audience wouldn't have been as interested in continuing to listen to MR.
- MrJohnson, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3It's a comedy show. It's going to be offensive. People came and paid to see him, not listen to some retard hecklers.
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