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youtube.com — A crazy welder, who's business was ruined by city hall, decides to weld himself an armored bulldozer + assault rifles. Can anyone stop him? (No they can't)

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  • steeel, on 10/12/2007, -10/+128That is how to protest!
    • dagonweb, on 10/12/2007, -22/+139Yes, and it will happen M O R E.

      As society becomes more repressive, as politicians more detached, as big business becomes more strangehold exploitative more people will do this. And if you think an armored bulldozer is effective just wait a decade untill people with rogue nanofactories, biochemistry labs, high energy physics, lasers, artificial intelligence come around.

      There is a huge market for vengeance. Loads of people are simmering with frustration, resentment, despair, humiliation. You don't need to go far abroad to find loads of suicide terrorists. And worse, I don't blame all of them for their ideas. If driven hard enough, i'd do this.
    • theoallardyce, on 10/12/2007, -42/+26It was so so obvious that he was going to kill himself at the end when the police were 'surprised' I thought what idiots! Americas prison and execution culture is part of the problem here, what use is the death penalty or harsh prison sentences against someone who is suicidal? All that happens is that it teaches people to take retribution because its 'ok' to do so.
    • briansalo, on 10/12/2007, -54/+34Exactly; he isn't the bad guy here (well, he is in a small way). Power to people like him!

      Sometimes people just wont listen until you take out the pitchfork, or bulldozer in this case...
    • justinmorris, on 10/12/2007, -6/+19I just watched this from work (Planning Dept and a county) and showed my boss (Planning Director). We loved it. Crazy nuts out there.
    • legolasegb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22@ theoallardyce

      Come on dude, the news reporter said the police were surprised. The media always sensationalizes things. While they often get the thrust of the story, they REALLY screw up the details. In my experience, you just come to expect inaccuracies. I agree, it was not surprising that he committed suicide and I seriously doubt if the police were surprised.
    • umdigger, on 10/12/2007, -9/+37Hey at least he did kill himself. That saves the tax payers ~20k a year. Thanks dude.
    • toastgodsupreme, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26Damn right!

      Wish he hadn't killed himself in the end, but I applaud him for standing up like that. We've become to complacent here in America. Letting our Govt run ***** how ever they want, forgetting that they are servants of the public, NOT the other way around.
    • kylebrothert, on 10/12/2007, -25/+19"That is how to protest!"

      By destroying the town, then KILLING YOURSELF??
    • ArcticCelt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+50Seams to me that corupted city officials where screwing him very hard. I never approve violence but this case could be an exception.

      "...52 year old welder Marvin Heemeyer lived in Grunbee Colorado fixing vehicle mufflers. His small repair shop was located near a concrete factory called Mountain Park. To Marvin and his neigbors' horrors, the owners of Mountain Park decided to expand the factory, forcing the people living near-by to sell their land to Mountain Park.

      Sooner or later the factory's neigbhors gave up, except for Marvin. Having tried every way possible, the owners of the factory failed to acquire his land. However all the surrounding land was now owned by the factory, which resulted in Marvin's shop getting cut off from the rest of the world...."

      "...He had purchased the bulldozer to construct an alternate route to his muffler shop. This was because the concrete plant blocked the original road to his shop. However, city officials refused to grant him permission.

      Other factors were also hindering his business.

      The concrete plant often left large quantities of dust on Marvin's property, and cut him off from the city sewer line. When Heemeyer requested to extend a sewer line across eight feet of the plant's property, he was denied. Not being connected to the city sewer line resulted in a $2500 fine that Marvin had to pay.

      As a last measure, Marvin petitioned the city with his neighbors and friends, but to no avail

      Faced with the failure of his business in spite of his efforts, Heemeyer was forced to sell the property. He was given six months to leave, and it was during this time that he constructed the Killdozer...."

      Sources:
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer
      http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=143648
    • ArcticCelt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28Ho and also this had a litle more context to the story:
      "...Marvin was described as an obedient, honest, and loving man. However, prior to his rampage, his family life was also falling apart: his father had just died, and he was forced to auction his house. When about to get married, Heemeyer found out that his girlfriend had cheated on him.
      [edit]

      The rampage

      On June 4, 2004, he drove his Killdozer through the wall of his former business, and tore down the concrete plant that had destroyed it. He then proceeded to destroy many other buildings, including City Hall.

      Some witnesses say Heemeyer made calculated movements with the bulldozer to avoid injuring anyone...."

      (From Wikipedia)

      Plus the aftermath show what king of son of a bitches rule that town.

      "...Rather than using the occasion to consider or address the underlying issues of the act, the date of his death has become a "everyone be glad he's gone" celebration , with the town holding ice cream socials and "old fashioned baseball games"..."

      Poor guy RIP.
    • sherb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I live here, Granby, and i was driving my car down main street and our local baker was in the middle of the street telling people to turn around and that there was a crazy guy in a tank shooting guns :-/.

      Something the video did not show was them taking Marven out of the bulldozer. Swat teams hooked him up to crane and lifted him out (they were worried he was boobie trapped).

    • rockintom99, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5Jesus, you guys are a bunch of lunatics. You *agree* with this guy? He ***** tried to demolish a town, and then escapes all punishment by killing himself. That is what i call a Class A jackass.

      ***** happens in life. My parents just got forced out of a house, but you dont see them shooting up the ***** city.
    • anareric, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6So many people admire this poor guy for standing up to those in power, but if he had been a muslim everyone would be calling him a terrorist.
    • The_Dark_Titan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I leave here as well. Holy ***** it was a war zone that day. There were tons of gun shots all day and reverse 911 calls going around. I was supposed to be evacuated but of course I didn't go. ;) The cool part is when they blew it open with charges because it was welded shut. I could feel the blast from about 10 blocks away.
  • W00DR0W, on 10/12/2007, -10/+28Sorry youtube didn't show you the whole thing, you only missed about 20 seconds, the Bulldozer breaks down and the guy shoots himself.

    Here's the whole thing with the extra 20 seconds:
    http://www.filecabi.net/video/bullydozer6.html
    • H3BR3W, on 10/12/2007, -2/+35YouTube showed it all for me.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Holy *****. I thought this only happened in hollywood action films.. wow.
    • W00DR0W, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Never mind then, some idiot told me it cut off.
  • verifex, on 10/12/2007, -4/+85Here is WHY this guy did this: http://forums.facepunchstudios.com/showthread.php?t=143648

    I would be angry too, but come on, there has to be some other way then go A-Team crazy on the whole town.
    • RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Ya, I swear I've seen the A-Team make an armored tank out of a bulldozer at least 3 times - assault rifles and all.
    • szelij, on 10/12/2007, -25/+24There wasn't any other way from what i gathered...so if he has to go down he's going down with a bang. Hmm he should have killed the councilmen and mayor first sniper-style..
    • ase111, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31Sniping is hard outside of video games. Let's not promote murder here.

      He took action, we should give him credit for that. He also build a kick ass tank out of a bulldozer fitting for the A-Team. Let's credit that too. But it was an act of violence, remember that. But yes, I'd be pretty peeved too if I were in his position.

      I wonder, would there have been a way to take effective action as effective as this but not hurt anyone?
    • rewritable, on 10/12/2007, -3/+32I wish he were still alive, he would make a great president after I bonded him out of prison with my bulldozer.
    • jefbob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+23"I wonder, would there have been a way to take effective action as effective as this but not hurt anyone?"

      From the article verifex linked to, it says that he was the only one injured in the whole adventure, and that was because he shot himself once the tank died.
    • concreteclam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+28ase111:

      Quoted from the forum post article: "Despite the great damage to property (13 buildings were destroyed, most requiring hundreds of thousands of dollars to be replaced), no one besides Heemeyer was injured; observers noted that Heemeyer appeared to go out of his way to avoid injury to bystanders."
    • rayt5, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8He didn't hurt anyone except for himself. He only destroyed property, according to the link by SteelChicken
    • Ratteler, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Of course there are other "acceptable" ways. That what "they" want. They want you to peacefully wright letter and ask nicely for your rights back.
      We need to do this ***** to the RIAA/MPAA, Oil companies, drug companies. We need an ARMY of Heemeyer's to remind these bastards WHO owns WHOM!!!!

      We need to make a banner and slogan out of "What would Heemeyer do?" because REASON doesn't work on Tyrants.
  • apache2, on 10/12/2007, -28/+7I live near this town (Grandby, Colorado) and I have been there many times and got to see the damage. Good thing the bastard didn't tear down my fav. place to eat, Mad Munchies!
  • Joe091, on 10/12/2007, -14/+9Wow. That's some f'd up stuff right there.
  • Bhima, on 10/12/2007, -2/+53I've read about this a while back.

    Once you find out the background it seems like the town had it coming.
    • tlfillingim, on 10/12/2007, -8/+12but this is probably not the best way to protest your town's actions. this issue has been to the supreme court several times and eminent domain has usually been upheld.
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eminent_domain
      http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/06/23/AR2005062300783.html
    • ThePict, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2A recent U.S. Supreme Court case (Late June of last year?) granted property rights to a developer who wanted to put in a Wal-Mart (I think). The rationale was that the Wal-Mart would bring in more tax dollars than the current residents, thus creating a net gain in terms of public good.

      I remember the news stories, but am foggy on specifics. If you're interested, check out the (short, usually 10-15 min.) Quick Hitts podcast @ http://www.davehitt.com/podcasts/ specifically this one: http://www.davehitt.com/podcasts/QH_Farewell_America.mp3

      It's also talked about in a Skepticality podcast, the one featuring corporate welfare. Find your own link.

      This is not spam - I have no association with either of these podcasts, they're just a couple that I enjoy and have information about the subject at hand.
    • vhold, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"but this is probably not the best way to protest your town's actions."

      Understatement of the year award.
  • AlmostEvil, on 10/12/2007, -1/+38Fascinating and so very sad.
  • bodger, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Sad and cool at the same time.
  • brettotte1, on 10/12/2007, -2/+25that guy was in my relative's town. the city gave the concrete plant a permit by his paint shop i believe which ended up getting dust everywhere & ruining his biz. he holed up for days in the shop building this thing

    they called us while it was going on to tell us to turn on TV's and watch the mayhem from choppers
    • nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Days? Try 2 months planning and 1.5 _years_ to build it.
  • LordSkywalker, on 10/12/2007, -11/+37That was crazy, but I do really wish there were more vigilante acts by people. You know, real-world anti-heroes who take justice and punishment into their own hands.
    • rockintom99, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1That was not justice. He ended up wasting taxmoney, as the things he destroyed are obviously going to be rebuilt. In the end, he just helped raise taxes. Way to go!
  • aaarrrgh, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40Truly an american legend!
  • hygraed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+35Now you know what would have REALLY packed a punch?
    If he had gotten hold of one of these:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagger_288
    • b403, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16If he had a D9, the whole town would have been fubar'ed.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Armored_bulldozer
    • YourTechSupport, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Yeah. I'd be pretty terrified. Then I'd break out the demolition gear.
    • vhcougar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5holy ***** that is a big machine.
    • kd1s, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Interesting machine. More interesting is who built it, Krupp. Good book if you want a historical read is Robert Manchester's "The Arms of Krupp, 1587 to 1968". BTW, they're now Thyssen-Krupp, a technology company. Next time you're on an elevator or escalator try to see who made/maintains it. Chances are, it's Thyssen-Krupp.

      BTW, the little interlocked three ring symbol on their logo was Krupp's logo. The arch is Thyssen's.
  • cerisaac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34"He was a fine lad", - said the people that were close to Marvin. "They shouldn't have made him angry". "If he was your friend, he was your best friend. And if he was your enemy, well he was your worst and most dangerous enemy." - said Marvins friends.
  • Phosphan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16Bagger 288? Easy to stop. "Powered with 16,560 kilowatts of externally-supplied electricity" - pull the plug (ok, it's a BIG plug) and it can't move.
  • GutshotJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -17/+6Now THAT is some fascinating TV. I can't wait until the networks die and living room entertainment is like Digg, with only the cool ***** and not Rockford Files peppered with annoying commercials. Guess I could move the computer into the living room but damn I'm too lazy.
    • carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15umm, that was just a rip from a cop show from TV
    • GutshotJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Of course it was, but umm who schedules a half an hour a day to watch cop shows on TV? Watching only the cool stuff that everybody likes with minimal ads is better.
  • GutshotJimmy, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17I wonder if this scared the FBI into monitoring all sales of bulldozers?
    • YourTechSupport, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6They need to monitor backhoe rentals and thefts.
  • jasgeo, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15Almost as cool as that guy who stole a tank

    San Diego Tank Rampage: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ZlAK13RYE&search=stolen%20tank
    • ParadoxControl, on 10/12/2007, -1/+26This might actualy be cooler then the tank rampage. If the guy with the tank figured out how to fire the thing, THEN it would have been cooler.
    • vhcougar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3why is the *san diego* story in another language? -_-

      in all seriousness, though, that must have been soo fun.
    • bbene, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ParadoxControl

      You've probably never seen a tank up close before. The driver of a tank cannot fire it since it requires someone else to load it.
    • brilliant, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0That is trippy coz after a bit of research, I found out that I live on that street! No wonder many landmarks in the video looks so darn familiar.
  • zephc, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2revenge is a dish best served cold. Although, it was still lukewarm in this case.
  • zephc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10also, a wikipedia page about it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Killdozer_%28bulldozer%29
  • chancesarent, on 10/12/2007, -24/+4bury me
  • brettotte1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22above comment has more of the story:

    i remember my relatives telling us that he went after government property as well as any property owned by the City Council Members due to them granting the commercial permit of the concrete plant across from his biz.

    originally, that land was rated for residential or biz i'm guessing, but they changed it to commercial for the plant which caused all that dust

    for quite some time he wrote letters, made calls, attended meetings to stop the rezoning, but they basically just let the biz swoop in and ruin his shop

    i think this should really make ppl think about the consequences of whom you piss off when doing crap like this.
  • Apreche, on 10/12/2007, -15/+3Why didn't they use some sort of explosive to get him. What I would have done is gotten some thermite and a few gas canisters. Get some SWAT guys on top of the 'dozer using a fire truck or even a helicopter. Use the thermite to put a nice hole staight through his vehicle. If you can set the thermite on top of the engine, that's even better since it will stop him dead in his tracks. Then make a hole into the space he is occupying and gas him to make him pass out or sleep. Get some jackhammers, thermite and jaws of life to open the rest of the thing. Take him out and lock him up.

    Of course, hindsight is 20/20.
    • carpespasm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12it was in a small town, no thermite, jackhammers and all that. plus he had assault rifles mounted in it.
    • mrASSMAN, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9They shot at it 200 times, didn't work. They threw grenades at it, didn't work. They rigged the crane with explosives and that didn't damage it either.

      Oh.. and it was a tiny city of just a couple thousand people.
  • cardyology, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23Mental. You USA guys know how to get revenge. ha.
  • HHP2K, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9That.. is so awesome. Talk about going out with a bang!
  • aznman_2001, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Now that's one awesome mofo. Though the jackass could have entertained us more by taking out those tanks.
  • Sukino, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7reminds me of
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKxFu0lT6dw
  • Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15It's like a trainwreck... it's so horrible and yet I'm enjoying every second of it.
  • BrokenImage, on 10/12/2007, -12/+7Rosie O' Donnell would have stopped him dead in his tracks.
    • theblooms, on 10/12/2007, -13/+5No, not Rosie, but Chuck Norris could have!
  • BufordT, on 10/12/2007, -4/+19I love it when a plan comes together.
  • n3tfury, on 10/12/2007, -6/+32AMERICA, ***** YEAH!
  • SpacemanSpiff, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Battlebots 2.0
  • vigorus, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4Did anyone else notice the date stamp on this video? Apparently the incident occurred over two years ago.
  • voteforblank, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13A Ranch down in Texas sure could use some rearranging!... Bahhhhhahahahaha!
  • SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15This story is a few years old and happened here in Colorado. I find it interesting that now he "killed himself". No, the cops shot him. They even had the cops on the news saying they shot him...

    The guy was obviously pissed off, but the real reason why is more than a simple zoning issue...the town council was so corrupt they were literally stealing property from people, and this guy just had enough.
  • AnotherBrian, on 10/12/2007, -20/+2The correct procedure for dealing for something like this is to:

    1) Blow off one of the tracks with artillery. or
    2) Take a pick up truck to the local metal fab shop and weld a 1/2" plate on the bed door and another one running at an angle from the bed door to the cab roof. You get in the bed with a gun and have someone BACK the truck up to the bulldozer. Once you get close enough he won't be able to reach you with his weapons. You then get out and use your weapon through his weapon portholes.
  • MackPrime, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22this is supervillain grade creativity.
  • saigumi, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Welcome to 2004.

    http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/Central/06/05/bulldozer.rampage/
    • Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4And what a year it was! Raving lunatics in armored bulldozers - what more could you ask for?
    • ReubADoob, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Yea you're definetly going to get dugg down for pointing out the most obvious thing about this story/video. ITS FROM JUNE 4 2004. I guess diggers don't care that something is clearly "Old News" anymore. Shame.
  • ZigZags, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15I had flashbacks of Twisted Metal while he was positioning his bulldozer to take on the much larger machine. He completely raged against that machine. He must have been screwed over hardcore by those politicians for him to build an armored monster of that magnitude.
  • buba447, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22Behind this bulldozer there is more than just a man, there is an Idea; and ideas are bulletproof. So is the bulldozer, but you get the point.
    • nerdofnerds, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Viva la V for Vendetta!
    • crash331, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I just watched that today....Ironic I saw this story immediately after.
  • whackaxe, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2looks like a cross between Clint Eastwood and an Israeli soldier :D
  • SteelChicken, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5more info on the corruption of the town and what really happened
    http://web.archive.org/web/20041012024126/http://www.nobsnews.org/allheemeyer.html
    • jtablerd, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2come on......did you read that? pure sensationalism.
  • jmdajr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1hardcore dude
  • EtaoinShrdlu, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1There’s an ***** suburb, near where I live, who have put a fence along a poor nieghbourhood. This is a place where such a killdozer would be pretty useful…
    • ase111, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Now it's a 'killdozer'?
    • umdigger, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Live near Detroit? There are lots of those fences there.
  • dpk87, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Could the local government not have the national guard blow the thing up with a jet or helicopter?
    • Dracker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I think the police underestimated the strength of the armor. They tried Bullets, then grenades, and finally explosives. By the time something stronger called in would arrive, the show would probably be over.

      Nice icon by the way.
  • mrlost117, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Wow:

    To fit the bulldozer with this shell, Marvin had to use a self-made crane. "Lowering the protective armor onto the vehicle, Marvin knew he wouldn't be able to get out"- said police officials. Although Marvin packed the interior with supplies such as water, food, ammo and a gasmask. To control the killdozer, Marvin used 3 monitors and a couple of video cameras. In an event of the cameras being blinded by dust, they were fitted with air compressors.

    It took Marvin 2 months to design the Killdozer, and according to sources, 1.5 years to build it.
    • Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I'll take two!
    • chad78, on 10/12/2007, -8/+5This guy spent almost 2 years on this thing? In 2 years he couldn't find another way to solve the problem? In 2 years he didn't calm down enough to get over it? In 2 years no one saw him building the bulldozer/tank from hell?

      Makes me want to invite my neighbor out to lunch just to make sure they're okay and not building something that could kill me.

      I'm amazed at this stupid government - but even more so at his friends and family for not getting involved to try and talk him out it.

      As for him "killing himself" - I'm a bit suspicious. They say he "had no way out" - but I clearly saw a hatch that they used to get it. Since he had food and water in there - I don't think it was a suicide mission.

      Some people don't have effective coping mechinisms.

      I applaud his creativity. I applaud the sheer massive scope of his vision. I applaud the fact that it is caught on tape. I don't approve of what he did - but I don't condemn it either. At least he didn't hurt anyone - just some buidlings.

      Did he ever fire those guns he put in the tank - er um, bulldozer?
    • chandrasonic, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"Revenge is a dish best served cold."
    • CedEx, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12@chad78:

      Are you serious? Didn't you read? He went through all the proper channels to oppose this, and at every step, the city council just stuffed him. Basically, the city council used every dirty little trick to put him out of business. He went to meetings, wrote petitions, everything he could. What more can he do when the city council and the concrete factory have already made up their mind?

      He was the little guy that got bullied by the big corporation and the city council who obviously sided with big business.

      I'd say the city and the factory got what they deserved. He's the hero of the little guys.
    • Modulo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7@chad78 "Makes me want to invite my neighbor out to lunch just to make sure they're okay and not building something that could kill me." This it what used to be called "Being neighbourly" You didn't actually think that people used to be nice to each other out of the goodness of their hearts did you?
  • ase111, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16In modern society, there really is little else in the way of how to communicate trouble. politicians abondon the old promises, and here in the US, think they're in charge, it's for you to follow. The should be thinking of serving the people as best as possible- some do some (I don't think anit-video-game legislature is the right track).

    I can't say he was without reason. I really can't.
  • psbpv3o, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Though I don't agree with tearing down towns..I have to say this was a pretty badass way to go.
  • brad3378, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8more info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Heemeyer
  • MacGyverDXS, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Truly sad. I really feel for this guy. It's a shame that the city council pushed someone to do something like this.
    • dose, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24Wow so the concrete plant cuts him off from the sewer line, he asks the city to extend the sewer line 8 friggin feet and they say no, and then on top of that fine him for not being connected to the sewer line??

      My head is going to explode.

    • geoboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"Wow so the concrete plant cuts him off from the sewer line, he asks the city to extend the sewer line 8 friggin feet and they say no, and then on top of that fine him for not being connected to the sewer line??"

      I know. You could say it would almost make you want to plow a bulldozer through city hall.
  • HsoKinees, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1I would not have thought police could stop a bulldozer.. they should have called Superman!
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