What is Digg?128 Comments
- TheSkunkMonkey, on 05/22/2008, -2/+64It's a damn shame that because one asshat managed to get a bomb in his shoe on board a plane we have to take off our shoes to fly on a plane.
Thank god he didn't have a bomb up his bum! - lordtyros, on 05/22/2008, -1/+48BREAKING: The TSA is Worthless
Also, waterskiing squirrels after the break. - inactive, on 05/22/2008, -2/+39That is all in good, but this only applies the richest 1/10 of 1% of the flying public, since they will be the only ones left flying.
- 5DMT, on 05/22/2008, -1/+32Terrorist: 5
Americans: -1
***** the TSA - tibbon, on 05/22/2008, -0/+25Sounds like someone got in cozy with the bag makers to get people to buy new bags for a kickback. This is by no means 'security'. Add that in with American Airlines charging $15+ per checked bag (which will certainly become the new trend) and I just smell moneymaking honestly.
I was unaware that my Crumpler bag was impervious to X-rays. - zspeed78, on 05/22/2008, -1/+25This is the most retarded idea ever.
- Truzseeker, on 05/22/2008, -0/+23I think that the only thing that will sink in is when no one will desire to take their vacation in this country, and a lot more individuals within this country just stay home, and spend nothing.
- suckanucka, on 05/22/2008, -2/+21"They hate us for our freedom (?)"
- Yage2006, on 05/22/2008, -1/+19Considering the fact that they can seize anybody's laptop and do whatever the hell they want with it. I wouldn't even dream of bringing a laptop with me. That has nothing to do with fighting terrorism at all that's all about stepping on your rights.
- dblespresso, on 05/22/2008, -1/+18The myth of security
- inactive, on 05/22/2008, -6/+22Terrorist - 1
Americans - 0 - medieval, on 05/22/2008, -2/+16This article is inaccurate. The TSA requirements are the following:
• A bag that would open completely, and lie horizontally on the X-ray belt, such that one side with hold only the laptop.
• A bag that would open completely, leaving the laptop standing vertically, supported by clips.
• A bag that would pull apart in separate compartments, with one compartment containing only the laptop. - colonelbuckshot, on 05/22/2008, -1/+15"Perhaps it is a universal truth that the loss of liberty at home is to be charged against provisions against danger, real or pretended from abroad."
James Madison - peruvianidol, on 05/22/2008, -0/+11Hijacking planes is soooo 2001.
Too soon? - nblsavage, on 05/22/2008, -1/+13So much for the "small government" republicans. They managed to create one of the most useless bureaucracies yet. The TSA (and it's parent, the even MORE useless bureaucracy the DHS) I sure as ***** don't feel safer flying now, it's more expensive, slower and more inconvenient and the airlines don't have any real motivation to improve, they can just count on another taxpayer-funded bailout. ***** it, the next time I need to go anywhere I'll take the friggin train.
- VAXcat, on 05/22/2008, -0/+11 Actually they just changed the rules. Formerly, you were right - you didn't have to take off your shoes. Now, you absolutely have to take off your shoes, no choice.
- aelias, on 05/22/2008, -0/+11They're not hijacking them here, because you'd have to have a death wish to attempt it. No pun intended. I'd love to see the look on the face of the next ***** that tries to commandeer an airliner with a box cutter.
It would be almost as entertaining as the cabin video of the other passengers stomping him into paste. - geobay, on 05/22/2008, -1/+11He probably doesn't eat at Taco Bell
- jinjin, on 05/22/2008, -1/+11ugh How come the government is so good at doing things to annoy, inconvenience, or cost its taxpayers money but they can't seem to fix a damn pothole.
- inactive, on 05/22/2008, -1/+11Some countries don't even require removing laptops (or shoes). Unless everyone does, why bother?
- getatmedigg, on 05/22/2008, -0/+9Just like it used to be when the airline business first took off-rich jetsetters.
- StarlessKnight, on 05/22/2008, -0/+9They're confused by how it looks in an X-Ray machine. The bag adds additional layers for their confusion. They might mistake the squiggly lines for an explosive device. I don't know it for a fact, but that's the only logical explanation I can really think of. Pity the TSA doesn't spend their budget on training or equipment that'd reduce that problem; cheaper to make the customer pay to make their lives easier. Besides, the market loves it; we have to buy new stuff (new locks, new computer bags, new water, snacks on the plane, drinks on the plane). Drinks? How long do you think it'll be before they start charging for that can of soda, mm? They've already targeted your pretzels.
- Aensland, on 05/22/2008, -0/+9Link to waterskiing squirrels plz! kthx
- Barackalypse, on 05/22/2008, -0/+9The problem here isn't the TSA, it is the big government/nanny state mentality that spawned it. The TSA isn't much more incompetent than most government agencies, the only difference is that many people have to interact with it on a daily basis and it's failures are immediate and obvious. The other government agencies incompetence is somewhat removed from view and more subtle in its damage, such as our crappy energy policy over the last 3 decades or our lose border control and immigration policies. If you want it fixed, you simply need to strip the government back down to what Article 1 Section 9 of the Contitution gave them the authority to do:
http://www.usconstitution.net/xconst_A1Sec8.html - Hello1024, on 05/22/2008, -2/+10What I'm more worried about is airport X-rays damaging flash memory devices. Of 25 flash chips I tested on a flight, 22 had more ECC errors after going through the scanner when compared to the same chips before going through the scanner.
This corruption could easily kill a laptop if it damaged the computer BIOS or any devices firmware.
When people realize that x-ray scanners could very easily corrupt their data and kill their hardware, there could be uproar from the business travelers - especially considering if undetected, that corruption could end up being sync'ed back to the company file store back in the office. - sodade, on 05/22/2008, -0/+8Absolutely agree. Remind me why the airlines are making us take off our shoes and throw away our bottled water again? Oh yeah - to get us used to living in a police state.
- orxor, on 05/22/2008, -1/+8I wonder how much more of this crap, these rules and regulations people will be able to take before we see mass civil disobedience, boycotts and strikes. I hope by that time it's not too late.
- zspeed78, on 05/22/2008, -1/+8Seriously.. why the hell are laptops such a big issue to Xray that them being in a backpack makes them impossible to see. What are they afraid of in a laptop? They obviously dont mind the actual laptop. So what are people going to stuff into a laptop case that scares them so much.. I know it has a battery that could be used for something, but they dont mind you having it anyway. So WHY are the laptops so important?
- damonic, on 05/22/2008, -1/+7"Your laptop must be placed in a clear one-quart ziplock bag..."
- kayvman78, on 05/22/2008, -0/+5Is it more than 3 ounces? Put it in a bag and send it through the x-ray machine.
- inactive, on 05/22/2008, -2/+7The TSA is in America only.
If you traveled world wide often, such as I, would would know that. - marillion, on 05/23/2008, -0/+5I know the parent poster is getting buried left and right, but he's really on to something. Pause for a moment and think. The hijackers were in part successful because of one reason: They got a plane full of people to sit on their asses while they drove into buildings.
No one will sit on their ass anymore. Not after 2001. A mentally unstable fellow bent on leaving this world with as much publicity as possible might hop on a plane and shout at 30,000 feet, "I'm taking over this plane." The vigilante mob will pulverize him.
The real terrorists will think of something else. It will be spectacular, of course - that's the point. Afterward, the media and political blowhards will demand to know we let that happen, and make new restrictive laws. And the terrorists end up winning. - orxor, on 05/22/2008, -1/+6I bought a fun to drive car and now I'd rather drive for a long time than get on a plane. Last vacation I took involved driving everywhere and actually made it more fun, got to see a lot more, ate at some interesting places, would have missed out on a lot if I just took a plane. Unless I have to go out of the country or really have to get somewhere very quickly (not likely to happen) I don't think I'll be taking a plane. The hassle is just not worth it.
- alricsca, on 05/22/2008, -1/+6What annoys me so baddly about this whole process is that it is utterly useless. It is nothing but high theater to impress the masses into feeling that the government can protect them from the unknown. Barring having people fly nude, after fasting, being checked for disease, having a full cavity search, and an x-ray, you cannot stop damaging devices from coming aboard an air plane. In fact you only inspire terrorist to come up with better way to hide things. The idea it serves as a deterrent is misguided because even if you succeeded in deterring a terrorist from doing something to a plane you have only set them upon something else. I true detterent stops the would be criminal from want to commit the act at all. One could argue this actually creates soemthign more of a challengge.
For that matter, I would rather risk the terrorist on a plan that in my house. For that matter, I would rather risk death than have to go through what TSA screenings the rest of my life. It is like handing them victory.
Examples of why security screening can never work.
Glass blades (No Magnetic Field)
Plastic or Ceramic Guns with Ceramic or Plastic Bullets (No Magnetic Field)
2oz bottles of liquids Do you know how little it takes of nitros to blow a window out? Some chemicals will not scan as explosives or as chemical weapons until after they are mixed. (You can take it on, if done correctly it will pass chemical test. Did I mention diseases?)
Even if they check a lap top for power, a spare battery can often take the place a drive or CD bay. These may really be plastic explosive shaped like a battery. For that matter there are known defective Lithium Batteries that when shorted produce a fire hot enough to melt aluminum.
Jamming devices. I hobbyist could make one from a cheap radio.
A baby (Yep most people will do anthing short of being killed to save a childs life. Who needs a weapon when you have a child)
Well I had 5 minutes and those came to mind, I wonder what terrorist would come up with after years of planning? Get it now?
- Skooma714, on 05/22/2008, -2/+6Why do we let them do this to us?
- s0crates82, on 05/22/2008, -3/+7***** THING SUCKS
- fatejudger, on 05/22/2008, -1/+5I use a sleeve to protect my laptop so I can shove it into my backpack. Usually I just remove the sleeve from my backpack with the laptop still in it and place it in the container. In the half dozen times I've done it I've never heard any complaints from TSA. Remember people, TSA personnel are people too; if you act in a civil manner and don't pull any nonsense, they usually cut you a little slack.
- orxor, on 05/22/2008, -0/+4MINI Cooper S. I can't recommend it 'cause I've had a lot of mechanical problems with it, but it is fun to drive.
- superkendall, on 05/22/2008, -1/+5That is total BS. I've never had a single CF card, or flash drive, lose data after going through the X-ray. I've never had a sinlge hard drive, or laptop, affected in any way in many, many trips.
- thall, on 05/22/2008, -1/+5"They'll require you to carry a second bag and create general confusion and more delays"
Sir Topham Hatt will not be pleased with this....luckily his train engines are still really useful. - drewpost, on 05/22/2008, -0/+4Nope - you are required to remove them. Refer to this site - http://www.tsa.dhs.gov/travelers/airtravel/screeni ...
- VAXcat, on 05/22/2008, -0/+4 That's the Customs Service you're thinking of. THe TSA can't seize your laptop for no reason.
- Daedalus17, on 05/22/2008, -0/+4Don't thank us. Thank your representatives in Congress.
- Rednik2011, on 05/22/2008, -1/+5Looks like somebody actually read the article and isn't just Ron Paul spamming. Dugg.
- mcquitty, on 05/23/2008, -0/+4And for some types of work, working in person, face-to-face is the best way to get the work done.
During Webex, people just tune out. Phone calls, people take email and other activities.
We just need teleportation... But, think of the issues with that.. no border security at all.. No security at all, someone pops into your house, and disappears.. But I could commute intercontinental and be home for dinner. - dood, on 05/22/2008, -0/+4We've convinced ourselves it's necessary for us to fly around, and that it is somehow critical for the economy. So, the TSA (and the airlines) can pretty much do whatever they want. Luckily it is pretty easy to avoid the whole mess by not flying.
- pixelwerx, on 05/22/2008, -1/+5Hooray! More rules that serve no purpose.
- aelias, on 05/22/2008, -1/+4You don't have the right to drive. You have the right to travel. As in walk.
-
Show 51 - 100 of 128 discussions
The Digg Toolbar for Firefox lets you Digg, submit content, and keep track of Digg even when you're not on the Digg site. Download the official 
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is