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- Coven, on 10/22/2009, -1/+60There's around 5-7 stories of structural steel above ground level at this point in the construction of 1 WTC (no longer known as the Freedom Tower). The 9/11 Memorial is well under way and there has been a functioning PATH train station there for at least 2 years now.
- Crazysticks, on 10/21/2009, -4/+57I stopped paying attention. Have they started anything at 'ground zero' yet?
- tdp301, on 10/21/2009, -4/+38It could be argued that the deterrent is not for third world countries, but for legitimate enemies of the U.S. With our navy so much larger than the rest, it simply isn't a feasible goal for another country to have an arms race. Besides, the Navy is expensive, but to put it in perspective the navy budget is less than 1/4 the Social Security budget.
Is it better to have a navy that is never used, or risk needing a navy and not have one? - WordsnCollision, on 10/21/2009, -6/+40Al Qaeda has surely taken note.
- boogerthecat, on 10/23/2009, -2/+35Maybe they'll come out of their hole and play... but again its a lot easier to blow up schools and shoot little girls for doing something evil like learning to read.
- mockaholic, on 10/21/2009, -3/+34NIce change of pace from the everyday "green story"
- ApokalypseNow, on 10/22/2009, -2/+33@DavidNiven
Steel has poorer ballistic properties than cupronickel and lead. I'd prefer our soldiers have more effective ammunition rather than symbolism to shoot - a few more of them might make it home alive that way. But what do you care? You think they're all going to some fantasy afterlife where it's all happy, all the time... you probably think sending them off to die is a good thing, in some twisted way.
I don't care how much weaponry you've fired, that doesn't mean that you know anything about them - people drive cars for decades without understanding anything about what goes on under the hood.
If it isn't practical, it has no place in warfare. Symbolism gets people killed. - inactive, on 10/21/2009, -8/+36I hope those 700 combat-ready Marines and 360 sailors will kick some serious Al Qaeda ass during their missions.
- ApokalypseNow, on 10/22/2009, -2/+285.56mm ammunition uses cupronickel for jacketing, not steel. I'd think that someone as reactionary as yourself would know that, but I guess that's just one more thing you're ignorant of.
- CaptainNoPants, on 10/22/2009, -1/+26Ouch. Someone doesn't like having their ignorance shoved in their face.
Yes David, I'm sure yours is bigger. Can we dispense with the internet tough guy routine? - KrayzieKyd, on 10/21/2009, -13/+37Unsinkable, right?
- Shadic, on 10/23/2009, -1/+21Hot damn. That was perhaps the most thorough owning of Niven I've had the pleasure of seeing. Great work, man.
- eest155, on 10/23/2009, -0/+20Actually it's 7.5 tons, not 24 tons... They can at least check the facts... the 24 ton figure was part of a viral e-mail...
"Some members of my crew joined the Navy as a result of 9/11," said Jones. "Some of them lost family members on that date." The 7.5 tons of Twin Towers steel welded into her bow "represents them. It represents hope as well as loss. We tend to hold such things close."
http://www.ussny.org/ - analogkid01, on 10/23/2009, -2/+21Finally, a recycling program that conservatives can get behind...
- SRSco, on 10/23/2009, -0/+19This may be the first time I learned about something from my grandparent's FW: Fwd: FW: Re: Fwd: Fwd: FWD: USS NEW YORK BUILT FROM 9/11 SCRAP METAL AINT SHE A BEAUT email before I learned it from Digg.
- IphtashuFitz, on 10/23/2009, -0/+15Not to mention all the guided missile frigates, submarines, etc. that launched cruise missiles during the two Iraq wars and in other military actions, the aircraft carriers who provide air support over Iraq to this day (and the support ships for those carriers - a carrier battle group typically consists of around 6 ships as well as the carrier), the submarines that still track Russian submarines on a regular basis, all the operations during the war in Chechnya, etc.
- Th3Wh1teRabb1t, on 10/23/2009, -0/+14I'm glad they changed the name. Freedom Tower just sounds hokey.
- burrdugg, on 10/23/2009, -2/+16You seem to be under the impression that those 12 aircraft carriers are wandering around in pack just waiting for some action to happen. Aircraft carriers are actually in constant activity dispersed at strategic regions of the globe. You'd be surprised at repercussions of the U.S. losing a single aircraft carrier, air support would be cut off for almost a whole continent, and troops on the ground in that vicinity would feel the impact from that lost.
- AgeofMastery, on 10/23/2009, -0/+14I'm betting the only gun Mr Niven has had in his hand is the 9mm between his legs
- Akairenn, on 10/23/2009, -2/+16Ships are decommissioned and phased out, you know.
As for the rest, if you want peace, prepare for war*.
(* Prepare for war != invade third world countries while shouting, "FUK YAH MURRICA!". It does, however, mean keeping our military forces well armed and well trained.) - zyklon, on 10/23/2009, -3/+16And it's powered by Jesus!
- Chjoma10, on 10/23/2009, -0/+13It took one year to build the Empire State building in the early 1900s. We don't have a memorial built at ground zero 8 years later. Pathetic and sad.
- boogerthecat, on 10/23/2009, -2/+13The navy is used all the time. Ask the survivors of the Christmas tsunami.
- Tarkaan, on 10/23/2009, -1/+11This is really cool, but you know what would be an even cooler thing to do with the scrap steel from the WTC?
Rebuild the WTC. Just sayin'. - Chinzon, on 10/23/2009, -1/+9It was 1930/31
- zyklon, on 10/23/2009, -0/+8Oppress the easily intimidated and impressionable! You know, get it while the gettin's good.
- mickoes, on 10/23/2009, -1/+9Thanks from the people who digg you up, and probably don't live in New-York :)
- TxAggie08, on 10/23/2009, -1/+8Maybe Obama will use the ship as the treaty signing site for when he surrenders Afghanistan back to the Taliban. He might even put up a banner that would play well with his base, "Mission Accomplished."
- twishart, on 10/23/2009, -1/+8Oh, so that email forward was real.... huh.
- inactive, on 10/23/2009, -3/+10I've heard 24 tons and i've heard 8. Either number is pure politics considering how much steel is in this massive ship. This amount of steel is so ridiculously negligible it's just used for propaganda.
- fadeddragon, on 10/23/2009, -0/+6No your not look above you.
- ebcreasoner, on 10/23/2009, -0/+6Thanks. I almost forgot.
- adml_shake, on 10/23/2009, -2/+8don't even bother man. These nuts can't be reasoned with on any level. At this point they are just trolls.
- NOD32user, on 10/23/2009, -0/+6Well, they did treat the steel with total reverence..
- medallions, on 10/21/2009, -22/+27That's great..I'm glad that steel found a new home.
But what's the point of spending hundreds of billions of dollars on a Navy that we never use??
We have 12 air craft carriers, dozens of destroyers, hundreds of assorted assault ships.. but a couple of Somali pirates in a row boat with a machine gun keep these floating fortresses at bay..
Use these ships for their intended purpose or spend the money on more pressing issues.. Because parking them off the coast of some third world country as a deterrent doesn't justify the cost.. In my opinion..
- roebeet, on 10/23/2009, -3/+8Actually, it's not strange at all. Three buildings had just collapsed in the heart of New York's business district. The PATH station was destroyed and the 1/9 train tunnel had caved in. What do you think they were going to do?
And I don't believe it was 18 days - I had seen trucks drive up West Street with debris, months after 9/11/01. - qazws, on 10/23/2009, -2/+7So this must be 65th floor?
- raptorlightning, on 10/23/2009, -1/+6In the days of easy trans-continental flight and ICBMs, we really have no need for a navy aside from maybe a few submarines.
- jrm125, on 10/23/2009, -15/+19Americaaaaaaaaaaaa....***** yea!
- CalcProgrammer1, on 10/23/2009, -4/+8How do you actually "destroy" steel? Steel is a chemical compound, an alloy, the closest thing to destroying it would be to separate it into its individual chemical elements and even then it isn't really destroyed. Is destroying it melting it down? Breaking it into elements? Turning it into pure energy using nuclear fusion? Face it, matter can't be created nor destroyed unless you invoke crazy extreme physics. At what point do you consider a pile of rubble destroyed?
- ChaosProfessor, on 10/23/2009, -2/+6my buddy did some work at a foundery that got some of the steel from the towers, they made a mold and made these really cool medalion things and sold them for 20 bucks and all money went to one of the foundations the feds made them come in and melt them all but my buddy got a few and gave me one it is one of my favorite posessions
- rwiggum, on 10/23/2009, -2/+5Why don't we just re-build the WTC? Wouldn't restoring the NYC skyline be an even bigger tribute to those lost in the attacks?
- fragMasterFlash, on 10/23/2009, -3/+6Plowshares beaten into swords? ***** YEAH!
- 6L6GC, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3No CalcProgrammer1, the question is at what point does a pile of rubble become evidence?
- inactive, on 10/23/2009, -0/+3you don't keep evidence FOREVER, moron. The investigation was long over. Just becuase wackos like you don't like hte findings does not mean the investigation is not done.
- TadMC, on 10/23/2009, -1/+4the heart of a poet
- visionviper, on 10/23/2009, -2/+5Probably the coolest/best thing ever done with recycled steel.
- mlw4428, on 10/23/2009, -4/+7Your attempts to be funny are failures at best. I hope you never have to see family or friends die at the hands of others. You're a sick individual (not the haha funny kind, but the looked down upon kind) and I was happy to hit that report link.
- Mindsink, on 10/23/2009, -2/+5"Baosteel Will Recycle World Trade Center Debris," www.china.org, January 24, 2002:
"A shipment of scrap steel from New York's collapsed World Trade Center will arrive in Shanghai tomorrow, according to media reports. The steel was bought by Shanghai Baosteel Group Corp. and several other domestic mills, which are always eager to buy scrap metal.
"Baosteel Group, the nation's largest steel firm, has purchased 50,000 tons of the scrap steel from 'Ground Zero,' the ruins of the September 11 terrorist attack, at no more than US$120 each ton, according to yesterday's Beijing Youth Daily. ... Most of the scrap will be recycled into ingots, but part of the relics will be molded into WTC souvenirs, the paper said.
"Baosteel officials reached by Shanghai Daily, however, denied they will make keepsakes out of the debris, but declined to give more details of their plans, saying only that the scrap will be melted down and reprocessed into new steel products.
"Another shipment of 10,000 tons of scrap from the WTC arrived in India earlier this month, reported Shanghai Morning Post. The metal will be melted down and recycled into kitchenware and other household items, the paper said.
"India bought its lot at US$120 per ton from the New Jersey scrap processor Metal Management, which purchased 40,000 tons of the debris at an auction held by the New York City government. Dealers estimated that the WTC disaster created more than 300,000 tons of scrap metal." - Mindsink, on 10/23/2009, -1/+4Synthesis/Regeneration | January 01, 2003 | Jayaraman, Nityanand; Bruno, Kenny | Copyright
It might seem like a tangent to the tragedy of the September 11 attacks: the fate of the thousands of tons of steel that formed the twin towers. As with so many other unwanted materials from the US, more than 30,000 tons of steel scrap--possibly contaminated with asbestos, PCBs, cadmium, mercury and dioxins--has been exported to India and other parts of Asia.
At least one shipload, on board a vessel named Brozna, landed in the South Indian port city of Chennai in early January 2002. The scrap was unloaded, as any routine consignment would be, by port workers with absolutely no protection.
Two other ships, Shen Quan Hai and Pindos, also reported to be ... -
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