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- FatLoser, on 04/27/2008, -1/+297 years of R&D out the window as digg comments reveal serious flaws in new seat design.
- wphj, on 04/27/2008, -0/+20Looks like the backs are all connected. Maybe this will stop the guy in front of me from reclining all the way into my lap.
- faet, on 04/27/2008, -0/+18Looks like the person by the window will have an even harder time getting out to goto the restroom. Also, they don't recline, so that could still cause some issues. I for one, can't sleep sitting straight up. At least the materials look better than the current 50 year old cloth.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -0/+8Tolerating and enjoying are two different things. I flew many a short haul flights. Just long enough you wish you could grab some shuteye but not long enough for you to waste upgrades on.
The notion of having some place to lean ones head is great, don't know how many times I've done the "chicken" dozing off in the middle or aisle seat.
Doesn't look like they recline, but if they're comfortable I can live without it. - karlw, on 04/27/2008, -1/+8Removing reclining on an airplane seat is the best idea ever. The actual recline on a plane is so small, it does nothing. Window seats are where it's at.
p.s. they can fit 8 seats into a place where 7 were before. They are just squeezing us in like cattle. - scully32, on 04/27/2008, -0/+7It appears that a cup holder is right over the head of the passenger in front of you. Hot coffee anyone?
- Typhoon2009, on 04/27/2008, -0/+6Economy class syndrome? That's a new one. The worst term I've heard is in reference to the long line of people marching to coach (including myself): "The Poverty Parade."
Damn people who can afford 1st class all the time... - KTO3TO, on 04/27/2008, -0/+6those would be awesome on a full flight but would suck when there are a bunch of empty seats where you could move and lie down in
- inigomntoya, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Yeah - and then you get to play dentist! THe worst is when you have your laptop open and they decide to slam their seat back. Your screen gets caught in the spot where your tray table is recessed into the seat. And they have no idea...
- inigomntoya, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Most of the coach seats I fly in are leather - cheap leather albeit. And the "recline" is more like "less further back than being folded in half". If the standard position for these new seats is where the "recline" position is for other seats - sign me up! No more of this "seats in the upright position" crap. As if 2 inches is going to save me from complete decapitation.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -1/+6We use to refer to it as the Cattle Car. It was sweet catching an upgrade on miles.
I remember having my name on the wait list for an upgrade for a long haul flight to Seattle. Sitting at the back of the plane crammed into a middle seat. Just before push-back they called my name. I felt like I was walking up to be coronate. - inigomntoya, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Now the captain doesn't have to get on the horn every time they have some turbulence. You can just listen for the screams of passengers sitting in front of the coffee drinkers. Next thing you know, they will be having "coffee sections" and "non-coffee sections" Eventually, all the people sick of having hot coffee spilled on them will be wanting their own planes and all you coffee drinkers will only be able to drink coffee in designated coffee drinking areas in the terminals.
- Typhoon2009, on 04/27/2008, -0/+5Isn't JetBlue only a national carrier? I can stand sitting in a coach seat for 5 hours. Flying for 10 hours (to Chile) in coach is not as fun... I didn't get any sleep on a return trip once it was that bad.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4If your conducting critical business on an airplane, that's your problem, not the airlines. If it is just porn surfing, learn to share.
- YellowStar, on 04/27/2008, -1/+5The ultimate luxury these days? Not having to travel at all, or owning your own Jetstream. Even in first class you're expected to inhale the dubious vapors from the dunderklumpen, and who can stand that?
- cobaltblue12345, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4Exactly right. For flights under six hours any seat will do just fine. Even trips from the U.S. east coast to Europe (around eight hours) are tolerable. But once you get over ten hours, that economy-class seat will make you want to kill yourself, and other passengers, and airline executives. Especially airline executives. I've done multiple fourteen-hour flights and I probably spend more of that last four hours walking around the cabin than I do sitting down. Anything but sit in that damn seat.
- pjmc377, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4This actually reduces privacy for the occupants of the window and middle seats, because someone is always looking over your shoulder. Your laptop screen is far more visible than if you were sitting side by side, as the person next to you doesn't have to crane their neck to see your screen, or whatever you are reading.
- Mononuclear, on 04/27/2008, -0/+4This has been going on since airplane seats reclined. The newest annoyance though is the seats that have personal touch screen digital displays in the seat back. Many people think that the harder you touch the screen the better it works, so on international over night flights you have some person poking the back of your seat as hard as they can with their finger at 3:00 am. Even worse when they are playing solitaire or some game and just sit and constantly poke your headrest.
- FatLoser, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3you took that one as far as it would go, and then some...
- brownspank, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3The "staggeredness" makes it a bit easier to glance over the rightmost person's laptop.
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Emergency exit rows FTW
- Jenovaside, on 04/27/2008, -5/+8Airplane seats are not that squeezed. Not that comfortable, but on Jet Blue (which i normally fly) its really not as bad as everyone makes it out to be, and I am a big man.More room would still be nice, obviously.
- Teku, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3They look pretty awesome, I am a little concerned about the cup holder position above your head... I don't like it when the person behind me tugs on the magazine folder and now added to that if you have a heavy handed person it is the constant jabbing at the entertainment screen on flights that have them. I think storing beverages above someone is a mistake, especially on the aisle seats.
Here comes the flight attendant running sweeping down the aisle... oh oops her elbow caught the cup, you are drenched, start screaming and next thing you know you are sitting in the airport security office of east bumble ***** explaining that you did not intend to blow up the aircraft. - gak001, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3As someone who is roughly 6'3", I must say that airplane seats are not designed to seat anyone comfortably over 5'9" or so. I would love a little more leg room and a place to rest my head. This is a smart move on Delta's part and I look forward to booking a flight with them in a few years.
- rxbudian, on 04/27/2008, -1/+4It doesn't recline, so how can most people sleep? Also it's going to be awkward for couples to snuggle...
- Subriot, on 04/27/2008, -0/+3Will this filter out the annoying kids kicking my seat from behind?
- tarjan, on 04/27/2008, -1/+3The seat does "recline" but rather than back it goes down and changes the angle within the rear solid shell. So no crushing your rear neighbors laptop. Great idea, though IMO they should offer higher quality and charge a bit more but call it coach rather than squeezing another person in. Say 20-30 bucks more a seat. Offer food, nice seating etc.
PS (thats the name) on United JFK to SFO/LAX is the prime example of this type of outrageously successful service and they barely do anything for coach really.
Either that or let there be worldwide competition for intra USA flights. - jsauter, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2I think it is supposed to be about freeing up aisle space in case of an evacuation and the possibility of whiplash if you get rear-ended by another plane at 39,000 feet.
- chlupululuu, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2i dont think couples snuggling was their goal...
- inactive, on 04/27/2008, -0/+2I have never seen a flight attendant move faster than a turtle before
- Lou3000, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I may be the only one, but the window seat looks incredibly claustrophobic. You don't have a straight view into the aisle, so that if you simple look left, you see more chairs.
I would fight for the aisle seat. - tomd123, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1An engineer would have never designed it that way, only an artist would do that. Wait a second...
- Stuchus, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I don't see how that can be cozy.
- jpaolini, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1You don't need to recline into someone else's lap to sleep.
"This staggered arrangement also means that there is space to put in a padded side section to lean against and get some proper mile-high shuteye."
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/cozy3.jpg - inigomntoya, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1You know that seat pocket fumbler is really just looking for an excuse to goose you, right?
- Mononuclear, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I love Jet blue's seats and fly with them if it all possible on domestic flights. Their seats are much nicer, and have more leg room than any other airline. On international flights I want to kill myself.
- jsauter, on 04/27/2008, -0/+1I often wonder where people's heads are (besides in my lap) when they recline their seats. That and the child behind me kicking my seat, or the constant seat pocket fumbler that might be behind me are the most infuriating thing about flying.
- Goombellaofgoom, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1What about watching R-rated movies? The four-year-old next to you will be scarred for life.
- matude, on 04/28/2008, -0/+1so true
- luisedisonrana, on 03/10/2009, -0/+0Bad when the flight is empty. I wonder how larger passengers will be accommodated when they need two seats?
http://www.extendedstaymotel.info/ - dosapede, on 04/27/2008, -1/+1Doesn't look very accomodating for people who actually like to interact on the airplane. Privacy is great, but what about the kids who want to play cards to pass the time, or couples, like someone else said. Hell,even having a random convo. with the stranger next to you. Props for finally attempting to address the seat issues, but 7.5/10 for execution.
- breadfred, on 04/27/2008, -2/+1Ah you, see, they are not cup holders, but ashtrays.
- blake182, on 04/27/2008, -1/+0"A new airplane seat isn't something you just throw together during a lunch break." Yeah, we learned that from the current version.
- ThePerkins, on 04/27/2008, -12/+4I for one welcome our new staggered airplane seat overlords.
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