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- potisreallygood, on 01/30/2008, -25/+348Stranded at the airport? Don't forget Rule 420
- lcarsdeveloper, on 01/30/2008, -7/+97What a waste of a comment, seriously in nearly every single thread some moron says "Only XX Diggs and this is on the front page?".
- nshady, on 01/30/2008, -7/+95Most useful piece of information I learnt on digg today.
- MrSketch, on 01/30/2008, -0/+66The author admits that this is no longer a true 'Rule', but that many carriers will still follow it, when asked. Since it's not a true 'Rule' you cannot demand that they invoke Rule 240, but you can ask. What's the harm in asking? Worst case is you're still stranded, right?
In general, I alway try to be nice to the airline agents since they alone have the power of stranding you or getting you to your destination.
Anecdote: We were taking my sister-in-law to the airport and just hanging out with her in the terminal after she got her tickets. Just on a whim I pulled up her flight information online and it said it was delayed 6 hours (even though the monitors in the airport showed it being on-time). So we calmly went up to the ticket agent, told them this and asked if there was anything he could do, and 5 minutes later she had a ticket flying out on another airline. However, at the same time we were getting our new tickets, there was a lady right next to us raising hell that the flight was delayed (by now the monitors had been updated), and the agent helping her just told her she was SOL. We later heard the agent tell the guy who was helping us that there was no way they were going to help a rude customer like that. - StarBeamAlpha, on 01/30/2008, -3/+67Oh man, I can't wait to get stranded so I can try this out!
- fcrow, on 01/30/2008, -0/+60You still have to ask nicely, they are not obligated to do it.
- jerryterhorst, on 01/30/2008, -13/+70i prefer rule 42--it is the answer to life, the universe, and everything (including airline delays).
- makkaveli19, on 01/30/2008, -4/+56Wow this could have helped me during my holiday traveling. :( i had 2 flights cancelled.
Dugg for useful info. - drgnmstrnik, on 01/30/2008, -3/+48Wow, time to RTFA since all of that is discussed there. Anyway I got changed from a canceled Delta flight to a Northwest flight when I asked just last week.
- meruru, on 01/30/2008, -0/+45It's the new "Down after XX diggs?"
- aigulf, on 01/30/2008, -0/+37FTA: "The only real change? You can't demand to invoke Rule 240 because it's no longer a rule. But you can ask. And people do that successfully every day."
- ryan83189, on 01/30/2008, -2/+38-27 diggs, and the first comment? WTF?
- chicoer2001, on 01/30/2008, -1/+31How about we turn it back into a legally binding rule. The government protects consumers in other areas...except flying.
- jerryterhorst, on 01/30/2008, -9/+37...seriousy? come on.. .seriously?
- hawarkarem, on 01/30/2008, -4/+301min and 46sec. who the hell wrote that rule? did he/she have OCD or something?
- Goombellaofgoom, on 01/30/2008, -0/+24Now here's a frood who knows where his towel is.
- petebert, on 01/30/2008, -0/+23I prefer to look at everyone around me and think about rule 34
- carpespasm, on 01/30/2008, -1/+23RTFA.
- Mothh, on 01/30/2008, -2/+22Good luck finding your luggage!
- BingoPower, on 01/30/2008, -0/+19That's fine, you can sleep in the airport then.
- akatherder, on 01/30/2008, -0/+19Rule 34: If it exists, there is porn of it. No exceptions.
- krytenx, on 01/30/2008, -0/+18Thanks Captain Xerox, do you have an original thought to accompany that paragraph you copied?
Here's the source:
http://money.aol.com/news/articles/_a/debunking-ur ...
It was written recently so perhaps Greenberg's article was written in response. - ToadLeg, on 01/30/2008, -6/+24Apparently they didn't have an iPhone:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SIRtOkUgww - bossm4n, on 01/30/2008, -2/+19Is this the first time you've ever heard of Peter Greenberg? This guy knows everything there is to know about travel. Every time he has something to say, whether it's on TV or in a column, I learn something. How exactly is trying to share knowledge or teach someone a display of arrogance? Do you sit in the back of your remedial math class and call your teacher a pompous ass because he still insists that 2+2=4?
- yunus, on 01/30/2008, -2/+18Did you read the article? He says that it is gone but also goes on to explain how you can still use it.
- inactive, on 01/30/2008, -11/+26"Rule 420: a passenger is alloted a maximum of 1min.46secs in the toilet on all occassions except when changing diapers. . . ."
What was your point invoking this rule? - aszymczyk, on 01/30/2008, -0/+13I feel like I would try that and then everyone behind the counter would laugh at me...
- spyrochaete, on 01/30/2008, -0/+13Don't talk about fight club.
- blast_flame, on 01/30/2008, -4/+16I see you have a new account.
The above link is spam. Do not click. It is to a website where he gets points for every click he gets. - rufo, on 01/30/2008, -2/+14Did you RTFA? He mentions all of that and more. Point is, some airlines still honor it to a degree, and if you're stuck somewhere, does it really hurt to ask?
- xerofilter, on 01/30/2008, -43/+54There is no Rule 240, at least not anymore. Rule 240 was shorthand for an old Civil Aeronautics Board regulation that required airlines to immediately place you on another flight, regardless of the fare you originally paid or the carrier you originally booked. But the C.A.B. and its rules disappeared after the airlines were deregulated in 1978.
Today, carriers set their own rules, and they’re laid out in the “contract of carriage” buried in the fine print on airline Web sites. You agree to the contract when you buy a ticket, and most carriers have terms similar to the jargon imposed by Delta Air Lines. Delta’s contract promises nothing; it even specifically disavows its responsibly to place you on the flight with the date, time, and destination printed on your ticket. As for getting help if your flight is grounded, lots of luck. According to Delta, any assistance is “at our sole discretion.” Why does the myth of Rule 240 — and the chimera of mandated federal travel assistance — persist? Airline legerdemain. At least three carriers — Delta, United and Northwest — call their proprietary contract terms Rule 240. This must be some sort of inside joke that amuses airline-contract lawyers. - slantyeyed, on 01/30/2008, -1/+12Execute Order 66!
- ImOscar, on 01/30/2008, -0/+11That narrows it down to... oh wait, no I don't think that narrows it down at all.
- krytenx, on 01/30/2008, -0/+9Oops, didn't know there was a character limit. Here's the article:
http://tinyurl.com/yv344w - androo002345, on 01/30/2008, -1/+9Cut off his testicles!
- runner108, on 01/30/2008, -0/+8Last year I was traveling through O'Hare on the way to Wisconsin.. made it to O'Hare at 10:00AM and due to weather was still stuck there at 11:00pm .. United kept saying it was due to weather and I would be stuck there for 3 days. I met a girl who was in the same situation.. she said she was going to try American and I should walk her to her airplane.. sure enough American got me on a flight in less 2 minutes of talking to an attendant. Didn't know there was a rule about this but I definitely learned something valueable. Although I was sort of bummed as the girl and I were going to split a hotel if we both got stranded for the night ;-) oh well!
- elliotys, on 01/30/2008, -1/+9Why do I have the feeling that when I say "I want to envoke rule 240" to the counter people, I'm going to get a cavity search. Have I become that paranoid?
- jonesyb, on 01/30/2008, -3/+11I am flying tomorrow from, and to an airport that is notorious for delays, so this is excellent information.
- akatherder, on 01/30/2008, -0/+8YOU JUST BROKE RULES #1 AND #2
- Aupajo, on 01/30/2008, -0/+8Speed of votes? Does anyone have a good breakdown of the new algorithm yet?
- sremick, on 01/30/2008, -0/+7I'd be interested in knowing how many people who've had "Rule 240" work for them were flying coach, versus business or first-class.
I have a feeling the success rates come from those who already paid for premium seating and so get special-treatment. Coach fliers are lucky if there aren't weevils in their peanuts. - roosterjm2k2, on 01/30/2008, -2/+9Or it could not have...
That rule, since the deregulation of air travel, is completely optional to the carriers... - masterc, on 01/30/2008, -2/+9"I checked the weather in both Chicago and Boston: totally clear."
Let me guess, he checked it on his iPhone? - ronaldinho, on 01/30/2008, -0/+7May I ask what is rule 34?
- Locke23, on 01/30/2008, -6/+13Bet you he checked the weather on his iphone
- thashiz, on 01/30/2008, -4/+11This is actually really good to know. I'm flying to Wondercon in a few weeks to work a booth, and we can't afford to be late.
- Treason, on 01/30/2008, -0/+6We are going to be so high...
- KraftDinner101, on 01/30/2008, -0/+6Nobody wants to be a jackass like this guy:
http://digg.com/apple/iPhone_Equipped_Passenger_Ta ... - jamwil87, on 01/30/2008, -11/+17potisreallygood.
- Incomp3tnt, on 01/30/2008, -0/+62 + 2 also equals 5.
The more you know. -
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