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- thepoliticalcat, on 11/01/2009, -9/+238Yaknow, if a parent can't calm their kid down, it's torture for the other passengers too. Parents seem to ignore that fact. It's not OUR kid, but we ALL have to suffer because YOUR little precious is having a meltdown. I hope airlines and other public venues start doing this more often. Not that i want parents and children to suffer, but there's only so much bad behaviour and spoiled brattiness I can take. My mother never even had to raise her voice to get us to turn off this kind of behaviour. One look from her was plenty enough.
- DaDrake, on 11/01/2009, -8/+143unfair would be subjecting paying customers to the torture of an annoying child.
- redcolumbine, on 10/31/2009, -26/+155Horribly unfair, of course... but who hasn't been trapped on a plane next to a spoiled shriekling and isn't internally cheering, "YES!"
- AaronCo, on 11/01/2009, -3/+130Control your kids.
Oh, and I was never "that same kid." I was a quiet child, and I enjoyed the few times I traveled by plane.
Rude children start with rude parenting. - pwarnock, on 10/31/2009, -9/+131I ❤ SWA
- SmokenJoe, on 11/01/2009, -5/+117Good for them. Not every kid is a screaming monster. Quit making excuses and blaming the world for noticing your mistakes. This is how douchebags are made.
- MiCKdotCA, on 11/01/2009, -1/+78three cheers. I have a little tike myself. 2.5 years. we have been on seven (7) yes 7 flights since her birth...not one incident like this. we come prepared for every possible scenario. lately we have brought a laptop loaded with movies and things for her to watch...BRAVO for SWairlines to teach mom that she should be a bit more prepared next time. AND she stayed with her parents? had to buy a crib...look whose crying now? people have no sense of reality these days. like mother like toddler.
- Purplekat, on 11/01/2009, -2/+70If I misbehaved when I was little, my parents took me out of the situation, and boy was I in for it. Nobody had to kick us out, because my parents were getting me out of there to somewhere quiet enough that I could calm down so they could get it through to me how much trouble I was in.
I learned -fast- that if I took things to where I was taken out of a room, I'd gone too far. The sinking sense of dread when my mother had to drag me out of a ballet is one of my earlier memories.
Yes, I was expected to sit through ballet when I was six. And I did. Hated it, though. - pilot3033, on 11/01/2009, -2/+70unfair? please. If you can't keep your kid quiet to the extent that the Flight Attendant can't make a safety announcement then I have no sympathy. They returned to the gate, let the kid and parent off, and re-booked them for a later flight. The kid was fine on the 2nd flight, and sometimes with kids, that's just the way it's gonna be.
- darkciti2, on 11/01/2009, -2/+69I applaud this move. More companies need to quit being politically correct and tell people like it is. "Your kid can't fly on this flight because he's an annoying f*ck and he will do more harm than good."
- lead2thehead, on 11/01/2009, -4/+691 paying customer < the other 299 paying customers
Sorry. Go be inconsiderate someplace else. - elemming, on 11/01/2009, -6/+70Yes, yes, yes!
- Elsewhere42, on 11/01/2009, -7/+69Children under the age to 10 should be required to ride cargo with the cats and dogs.
- absentmindedjwc, on 11/01/2009, -2/+51@Pilot85
my parents would have beat my ass if I did half the ***** some of these kids get away with and the "johnny, please stop that" approach of most recent parents doesn't work for *****.
People need to travel, sure, but that does not mean that one little ***** needs to ruin the flight for every other passenger. - absentmindedjwc, on 11/01/2009, -3/+49wont somebody think of the cats and dogs!
- zhallock, on 11/01/2009, -0/+46I have a 2 year old. I would kick myself off if he were cranking it up to 11. Obviously that was the right thing to do by SWA, wish more places would do that.
- lead2thehead, on 11/01/2009, -5/+49>> They have to stay home or drive a car everywhere they go?
YES! When you have a kid, you give up some of your freedom. This is common sense. - WickedAngelR6, on 11/01/2009, -1/+41If your child is too small to manage, they have no business on a plane. A 2-year old is in that category that has no business on a plane, at a sit-down restaurant, or in a movie that isn't saturated with colorful theatrics and cartoon characters.
A lot of parents will cry about how they need to be entertained too; tough luck. You made the decision to have the child so make the decision to be a decent human being and show some consideration for the rest of us who don't want to have our social outings ruined by your little bag of wonder.
Many parents I know get pissed up by these public displays as well. They only get one night a week (Between their busy schedules and the need to find a babysitter) for entertainment so having some inconsiderate parents ruin it for them gets underneath their skin. - AaronCo, on 11/01/2009, -2/+42Says the parent of a rude child...
- awfl, on 11/01/2009, -0/+40No, we weren't all annoying children at one point.
At issue is that some people simply cannot understand that it is necessary, or fail, to socialize their children which starts way before it is time to go out shopping or onto a plane. If your child cannot sit quietly or even eat a meal at home without acting out, it is likely they won't in public either.
And yes, I have two. - AnalogAssassin, on 11/01/2009, -4/+41I'm guessing the people who are in favor of letting this little terror ride the skies with them are likely the ones whose kids act like that also. People, discipline your brats. Or keep them the ***** home.
- DJMoBiUS, on 11/01/2009, -0/+36I feel worse for Southwest then the mom of the child. While I'm sure the other passengers of the flight were internally cheering when they removed the child, there will be plenty of backlash from other breeders who find this offensive.
I think airlines should offer "Adult Only" flights. Even if the fare was higher I think there are enough people out there who would be willing to pay a little more to insure no crying babies or kids kicking their seats. Maybe even a complimentary adult beverage? - TheGroje, on 11/01/2009, -2/+38Ah, beating children with belts. Biblically approved, and fun for the whole family!
- SirBruce, on 11/01/2009, -1/+37*clap clap clap*
When I run my own airline, the back part of each plane will be fitted with a soundproof compartment. Anyone with children under five, or who cannot control their children, will be required to sit in that section with them or they won't be allowed to fly.
Movie theatres should have a similar arrangement but that's more complicated. - bfridman, on 11/01/2009, -1/+34My parents waited until I was older (around 5 or 6) before taking me on a plane. Some parents are more considerate than others.
- bmatherlyjr, on 10/31/2009, -4/+37Why does Bill Cosby's "Jeffrey" routine quickly coming to mind?
- NexusP, on 11/01/2009, -2/+34Three cheers!!!
- acknotSW, on 11/01/2009, -2/+34No, I wasn't allowed to be.
- NexusP, on 11/01/2009, -4/+36They can be kids all they want outside the plane. It is torture to endure hours of someone's whining brat.
- wakeupsleeping, on 11/01/2009, -1/+30what do you mean by 'kids will be kids' - sure tantrums happen and children get distressed at times, but surely children should be made to understand that that kind of behaviour is not acceptable - otherwise you promote the idea that screaming and shouting and being the focus of everyone's attention is ok. This kind of experience is very important to a person's development, and surely you don't want kids to be bad kids...
- catseye56, on 11/01/2009, -1/+27Thank you SWA!
- beautifulady, on 11/01/2009, -1/+26It's kind of interesting that an airline can kick Muslims off a plane for praying, and no one says a thing about it, but a child creating a disturbance affecting the whole aircraft is removed from the plane, and it becomes a major incident.
Children, being what they are, should be afforded a certain degree of patience and understanding, but if you have ever suffered through an international flight trapped in economy class with a shrieking child (or several of them, as was my last experience), you can find yourself on a little piece of airborne hell, and no escape. - andrewh7, on 11/01/2009, -4/+29Settle down troll. Disrupting a flight is a federal crime - being overweight isn't. Your slippery slope has been submerged in grease.
- Purplekat, on 11/01/2009, -2/+26As I mentioned in a comment above, I sat through ballets when I was of kindergarden age without talking or fidgeting, even though I hated ballet and it bored me silly. I was just as capable of running around and being crazy as any other kid, but I understood that there was a time and a place.
I was also taken to fancy restaurants and expected to sit through dinner without causing problems.
A child of two is very capable of shutting up and sitting (reasonably) still if a parent establishes themselves as an authority figure in that child's life. We've just forgotten that as a society; we accept these screaming monsters as "kids being kids". And it's a tragedy, because a child who's that out of control isn't happy. They wouldn't be screaming if they were happy. - SmokenJoe, on 11/01/2009, -0/+24Every kid is a screaming lunatic? I think not. Please refer to Ericsson's theory of development Autonomy v Shame & Doubt self control is a vital part of development at this stage. Failure to achieve this can hold them back and make them suffer throughout life. You just insulted all the people that actually care and put some work into raising kids.
Raise a spoiled brat and they live life as one. You will have an adult that is set up to fail. - lead2thehead, on 11/01/2009, -2/+25That settles it. I'm only flying Southwest from now on.
- andymadigan, on 11/01/2009, -0/+23Stop calling it a "right". SWA is a private company who can choose their customers as they please.
- absentmindedjwc, on 11/01/2009, -0/+23"Get over it"
I will get over it when idiot parents stop coddling their children. Apologize and take your child into the restroom, give him a good smack, tell him to shut up, and go back to your seat. If you cant do that, don't get angry at me or another passenger that turns around and yells at your little loud mouthed brat.
As I said up above, I would have gotten my ass beat for doing half the ***** most kids nowadays just get yelled at for doing.
The world does *not* revolve around you and your little brat, if you cannot control them, you and them have no business on a plane. - lead2thehead, on 11/01/2009, -0/+22Lazy parenting at its best. Just let them do whatever they want because "kids will be kids".
- Purplekat, on 11/01/2009, -2/+23It's not the kid that people object to. It's the parent that A) can't control their kid and B) chooses to subject everyone else to their kid. The kid was screaming loud enough that the passengers couldn't hear the safety warnings.
I don't know if you've been on a plane recently, but the warnings come in over a loudspeaker. It's not just someone talking. They're pretty loud. - lead2thehead, on 11/01/2009, -1/+21*****. There is never a reason why you "have to" take your kid on a plane. Newsflash: YOU are the one being inconsiderate, not the people you're disturbing. Control your kid. I do. So does every other responsible parent.
- ryanonfire, on 11/01/2009, -1/+20They have these already; it's where the suitcases go :P
- The_Tate, on 11/01/2009, -4/+22"Horribly unfair"?! Screw you! Let me guess, it's also unfair to kick the scumbags that text during movies out of the the theater?
Your bleeding heart ***** is just that - *****. - The_Tate, on 11/01/2009, -1/+19@ 1od1 - No, you're the one that's clueless. Your comments on this article have been dugg down LOWER THAN THE SPAM (seriously).
Take a hint. You're wrong. - lead2thehead, on 11/01/2009, -3/+21Ordinarily, they don't make you buy 2 seats if you're fat either, but this is the awesomeness that is Southwest.
- AnalogAssassin, on 11/01/2009, -0/+17Maybe your truth. My kids don't act that way.
- AnalogAssassin, on 11/01/2009, -0/+17Wrong. I have two well-behaved kids and i applaud SWA for this.
- boson3, on 11/01/2009, -0/+16Southwest rocks. I just spent three hours on a Delta flight with several screaming kids, one right behind me who droned on and on for a full farking hour "I wanna go wit you guys! Waaah! I wanna go wit you guys! Waaah!".
I say airlines should offer complimentary nitrous oxide masks for parents traveling with children under 10. Or, make that 'mandatory' <g>. - nomadxx7, on 11/01/2009, -0/+16Or do like my parents and give them dramamine. My parents would do that on the 3 hour trip we took to Boston. We thought it was candy, told it was for sickness and the drowsiness that accompanied it knocked us out for 2.5 hours of the 3 hour trip. Hell for the longest time I thought Boston was about 30 minutes outside Vermont.
- battye, on 11/01/2009, -3/+18Ordinarily, airlines don't do this. There has to be more to this story.
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