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- nahsrocketeer75, on 06/10/2009, -4/+48Hey, I'm all for recycling but let's try to maintain just a bit of perspective here. The public is buying in fast enough without resorting to financial brutality.
- weatherlsp, on 06/10/2009, -6/+40I love visiting San Francisco, but the smug is so thick I'd never be able to stand living there.
- Simonetta, on 06/10/2009, -2/+35Excuse me for saying so, but recycling ...sucks.
I live in Portland, Oregon, the self-righteous recycling green-brained center of North America. Every ***** morning, I get awakened by not one, not two, but three god-damn LOUD garbage (excuse me, 'recycling') trucks prowling the neighborhood. One ef'ing giant truck for glass, one for plastic, and one for non-recyclable *****. Two different companies on alternating days going over the same basic route. Every ... single....morning.
It's all so ***** stupid. It all goes to same landfill. It's all just a sop to make idiotic middle-class white-people feel good. It's the truth. The amount of energy that goes into driving around three times the number of trucks to pick up the sorted garbage is greater than the amount of energy saved by having people pre-sort their garbage.
People, if you're serious about all this 'green' *****.... stop making so much garbage! - juankovo, on 06/10/2009, -4/+36All of you people need to watch Penn & Teller's episode on recycling: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNJ__Pw_jaY
- OneAndOnlyEBZ, on 06/10/2009, -10/+36I HATE HIPPIES!!!!!!!!
- 8FoldPath, on 06/10/2009, -1/+26Geez...the town I live in got rid of it's recycling program because of the cost. I couldn't recycle if I wanted to.
- ethanator1088, on 06/10/2009, -4/+29Don't Tread On Me!
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -7/+31Just another reason why not to live in San Francisco.
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -3/+27What is next, sending non-recyclers and non-composters to re-education camps?
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -0/+24wow wtf? the only thing presently worth recycling is aluminum, but hey keep pushing an agenda until everyone moves out of the town and your city goes broke.
- cheddaro, on 06/10/2009, -4/+28If it weren't for the people that live there and run things, San Francisco would be my favorite city on earth.
- cha0tician, on 06/10/2009, -2/+25I live in SF in the Richmond District. Lets take a walk down my street real quick!
Homeless guy accosting a tourist? Check!
For lease signs on the front doors of multiple businesses? CHECK!
Garbage piling up in the streets due to cutbacks in streetsweeping? CHECK!
Another homeless guy pissing on someones doorstep? CHECK and DOUBLE CHECK!
Armed robery in broad daylight? CHECK!
Axing of police, fire and medical services? CHECK AGAIN!
All this and our district supes decide that they need to spend time drafting THIS crap. Our mayor is nowhere to be seen in the city, he's off trying to be the next Governator. This city, and the entire state are on a steady slide downwards. Taxes and mismanagement such as this are going to be the downfall of the city I absolutely love.
Meh. - ericdano, on 06/10/2009, -2/+24Gosh, I like how we can decide for ourselves things.........wait........damn it, Pelosi is in charge now..........nevermind
- casek, on 06/10/2009, -4/+26freedom of choice?
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -1/+17Wow here in Houston, its almost impossible to recycle. You have to save it up and drive it across town.
- Akula765, on 06/10/2009, -2/+18You laugh now...
- GrodyChamp, on 06/10/2009, -3/+19What
the
***** - Akula765, on 06/10/2009, -0/+15Metals in general really, but yeah.
Plastics kind of break even.
Recycling paper does more harm then good. - AllEvil669, on 06/10/2009, -0/+15Not only aluminum, steel/iron is also worth recycling.
- ChiefUCF, on 06/10/2009, -5/+20Stay classy, San Francisco.
- kartman2001, on 06/10/2009, -0/+15Still BS that they would impose fines.
- norman619, on 06/10/2009, -2/+16Unless they can demonstrate a VALID reason why they need to FORCE people to recycle they need to get the ***** out of people's personal lives. Last I checked they have much more DIRE problems to deal with. Crap like this makes me root for a total collapse of the state.
- lateralis, on 06/10/2009, -2/+15many types of paper recycling are worse for the environment than simply land filling them. the bleaching process creates a pretty toxic runoff that is avoided with land filling.
- crawfishDigger, on 06/10/2009, -2/+14I, for one, welcome our new recycling overlords.
- norman619, on 06/10/2009, -1/+13Smart move on their part. Only down side is the loss of jobs.
Love these guys:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNJ__Pw_jaY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZQ41cceCD8 - uberchaoslord, on 06/10/2009, -3/+15Well played...
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -0/+11wonder how much fuel those trucks use, and how much CO2 they put out
- LilRabbitFooFoo, on 06/10/2009, -1/+12Recycling is a FRAUD for everything except aluminum cans. Do the research.
- MargotCross, on 06/10/2009, -13/+23sometimes it takes drastic measures... although i have to admit, this is a tiny bit harsh. a property lien will pretty much ruin your life.
- akatsuki, on 06/10/2009, -2/+12I used to be fairly liberal and tolerant, til I moved to SF. Now I long for the Giuliani police crackdowns.
- inactive, on 06/10/2009, -2/+12so you think people should lose their homes if they don't recycle. you're a moron.
- Trick07, on 06/10/2009, -2/+12Wow, lets all rejoice at letting the government go after your home/business if you don't follow the rules. I mean, all you have to do is follow the rules, right?
After all, its not like we read all the time here on Digg about how people in Texas lose their money because it was taken away over their inability to prove they were not doing anything wrong...
Great way to get rid of those people who are not the types San Francisco wants... - hoopy22, on 06/10/2009, -2/+12Tiny bit harsh???? What is happening to our country?!?!?!?! The PC/Green/Thought-Police are running amok.
They are amok-ing up the whole place. Leave my amok alone!
Really. - juankovo, on 06/10/2009, -0/+9People just need to remember that recycling something (i.e. turning old stuff into new stuff) is just as much a manufacturing process as is making something from new materials. If you put more energy into making something out of recycled materials than you would making it out of new materials, then you're very likely doing more harm than good. If we ever "run out" of new materials, then it will be very worth it to mine landfills for old materials and recycle them. But doing it now is not smart.
- cha0tician, on 06/10/2009, -2/+11Funny, we are moving out. Put a bid on a house in Castro Valley. Just waiting to hear back.
Actually found out who my Supe is and gave his office a call today. Got an earful of how it's great for the environment. No arguments there... but perhaps we should be focusing on getting our ***** together before we start worrying about my orange peels. - alethes1973, on 06/10/2009, -16/+25I'm a conservative/libertarian guy and I would normally start raging because of this notorious liberal city pushing their agenda down everybody's throats, BUT, this is what I think is good about this type of regulation: It's local.
There's a huge benefit to local regulation vs state-wide or federal because this gives constituents a choice regarding how they want to live. If more laws were done this way, we'd actually be able to see what really works, because people would be able to move to areas where the law fits how they want to live. Eventually we'd see some regions fail and others succeed based on these changes and adjustments could be made accordingly.
People who disagree with this type of regulation enough will leave the city for some place they perceive is less hostile. Example: Rich people leaving New York because the taxes are too high. - inactive, on 06/10/2009, -0/+8paper isn't, plastic is eh. pushing an agenda like this does more harm than good
- casek, on 06/10/2009, -2/+10i think this is probably inevitable. sad, but inevitable. we take so much ***** nowdays, the local, state, and federal govt will just figure they can pile on more and more.
we may eventually get tired of being pushed around and told what to do.
don't get me wrong, i recycle my aluminum cans. not for the environment, more for the fact that it's metal and can be melted and reused. why throw it in the dump? i don't litter because i don't like to ***** where i eat. - hoopy22, on 06/10/2009, -1/+9Riiiiiiight. And what about equal protection under the law?? Property liens??? That's acceptable to you. Please!
- JayBabs, on 06/10/2009, -0/+8. . . and that is the Richmond. I work out in the SOMA, it's common practice to see a homeless man defecating on the streets during daylight hours.
- uberchaoslord, on 06/10/2009, -0/+8Their ***** about genetically modified food? You yourself have been eating genetically modified food since you were born, unless you're part of some fringe group that thinks corn is sacred. Every piece of corn consumed in modern america is genetically modified - just by cross-breeding methods, as opposed to direct genetic modification.
I bet you're someone who says "we have to trust the scientists about what they say about global warming" but then say "we can't trust the scientists about what they say about genetically modified crops". Hypocrite. - dartmanx, on 06/11/2009, -0/+7I don't mind recycling, but once again the government is trying to mandate personal responsibility. My wife, however, refuses to do it.
- whiplash65, on 06/10/2009, -3/+10agreed 100%
- btschul, on 06/10/2009, -2/+9So you can't refute it then? Ok, buried.
- NuttyAvatar, on 06/10/2009, -0/+7I am all for recycling... but I don't buy the fact that they charge 5-10c CRV for pretty much every bottle/can. And there is no easy way to go return those bottles and cans. Where is all this money going? Can they at least open up some "visible" locations where we can go return these and get our money back? I am getting tired of paying these recycling taxes which ends up in my recycle bin. Now they want to penalize? Come on guys
- Thuban, on 06/11/2009, -1/+8Gotta love the People's Republic of San Francisco.
- Y0tsuya, on 06/10/2009, -2/+9Yep same here, love the weather, hate the people.
- loki49152, on 06/11/2009, -0/+6That's a nicely unprincipled view of the role of the state.
No government, of any size, has the right to make these laws. It doesn't matter if it's the Federal, State, local, or neighborhood watch level. The principles of individual rights do not disappear just because your neighbors are hippie savages. - norman619, on 06/10/2009, -0/+6No *****. Here in NYC it's such a pain to recycle because of how they want you to sort it. It makes no sense and it's confusing. If it weren't for the fines I wouldn't bother with recycling anymore.
- megaton, on 06/10/2009, -2/+8Not only that, but some people (like myself) are fundamentally opposed to certain kinds of recycling (paper, for example) as a matter of principal.
Besides, isn't half the city built on a garbage dump, anyway? Think of non-recycling as city expansion... -
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