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- wizzroom, on 09/08/2008, -1/+11When the author uses the phrase 'Evolving Harlem' what he means is that predominantly white yuppies are moving in and to follow are the same astronomical increase in rent prices of living and commercial property and subsequent closing of privately owned 'mom and pop' stores. This kind of gentrification and the eventual push of original residents to the outer fringes of the city happens in any crowded place like NYC.
- yardie, on 09/08/2008, -0/+7The inevitability of it all is that eventually, the people coming in trying to escape the last place they lived will turn it into "the last place they lived". Gone will be the block parties, kids playing near the street, and the atmosphere that made Harlem. The upside is problems that have been lingering will finally get addressed, flagrant drug use and crime (already low, but could be lower). My friends that grew up in Harlem can no longer call it home as adults. They can't afford the rents in their neighborhoods so they have to move to places like Mt. Vernon, South Bronx, or east Brooklyn.
- Rotzooi, on 09/08/2008, -1/+6I knew I recognized his name from some of the right wing extremist circle jerk threads we've had on Digg recently. Troll or not, you're an *****, bisser.
- SenorCardgage74, on 09/08/2008, -1/+6If you come across bisser (http://digg.com/users/bisser) spewing his ***** in one of the political threads about Obama. And you will. Dont let him forget his racist ramblings here.
- 4rp4n3t, on 09/08/2008, -1/+5Huh? Really? I didn't have to...
- SteelChicken, on 09/08/2008, -0/+4people move around, neighborhoods change. nothing is forever.
- miggie, on 09/09/2008, -0/+2I'm black and I don't get the grape soda thing. Is that something white people think black people like?
- MrZaiko, on 09/08/2008, -0/+2This is happening all over NYC. Columbia University and other schools are buying buildings and increasing rent so people are basically forced to move out. Now you see your average college student in areas that no white people dared to go.
Progress???? - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -3/+5same thing happens when predominantly black poor folks move in and rents fall, and businesses leave. That is the way things go. Now that "whites" are moving back and buying up their old neighborhoods people are bellyaching because it displaces others? That's life. Move where rent is reasonable and there are jobs, and you too can live the American dream.
- kamikaze134, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2I read that as "evolving harem." What a letdown.
- ChelseaBlacker, on 02/25/2009, -0/+1I love that the author leaves the "black guys harassing white girls" part for the end. I feel for that girl, it's the reason I wouldn't live in Harlem!
- hiphoc, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2Is this what people mean when they say Gentrification.
- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2This is happening everywhere around the developed world as white collar workers are moving to the inner city than the suburbs.
There is tension between the new wealthier residents and the old poorer residents who also have seen many of their friends leave and neighbour hood change.
Making it a Black V White issue which often happens in the US is inaccurate. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -2/+3My brother has lived in Morningside Heights since the 80's. It's gotten much better in the last 10 years.
Harlem remains a cool place, but just about any where in NYC can be a dangerous place. - mozert, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2T-Bag to Susan: There is not a white man's chance in Harlem that you'd ever leave your children behind.
/epic - lordsandwich, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1It's not just Harlem, ride the A or 1 train all the way up to Washington Heights and Inwood and you'll see a level of diversity that's almost shocking compared to the last five years.
- heartspm, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1Older residents never take well to the new ones. I experienced that in the 60's during the white flight and since "gentrification" the tensions have originated with black communities that don't want whites moving in. It's sad that more is not done to have communities get along, more cross-cultural meetings. Changing neighborhoods brings a lot of tension that needs to be anticipated and channeled.
- BennFriedrich, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1Odd, all I'm getting is a login screen.
- Gazthrak, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2I've been living in Harlem since 2003 and I have personally seen the fast transformation of my neighborhood. It seems so fast, I forget what the neighborhood used to look like. I am thankful however that my particular area hasn't been swept up by franchises and big stores and except the residents too the opportunity to get with the times. They closed up for a couple of weeks to clean up their shops. Gone were the horrid flashing yellow bodega lights (half of them blown out) and decades old ads covering up the windows in a haphazard fashion. In came the clean and organized shelves, new awnings along with a well lit and more pleasurable feel. They chose to not complain and take advantage.
I have always said that the main problem with these communities was the utter lack of respect people paid to their immediate surrounding community and even their own buildings. Fine, you want to hang out on my buildings stoop? I understand. Its wide, well-lit, kept clean and close to the corner. I don't even care that none of you live in the building. But leaving chicken bones and beer bottles when you're done and harassing the women that come and go is where anyone should draw the line. Another good example of this is a park just down the block from me. Every weekend I see a family having a grand old time, eating good food, listening to music and playing volleyball or soccer (ok fine... futbol). It looks like a lot of fun... until you walk by in the morning and not one piece of trash seemed to find its way to a garbage can. It looked horrible and disgusting and just made the area look very low class.
I'm dong my part at least by getting to know the people in my building. Its a small but crucial step to making a string of unassuming apartment doors (and later a block of buildings) a community. I do wish the turnover rate wasn't so high. - Gazthrak, on 09/08/2008, -1/+2Oh yeah, and I'd like to point out that the South Bronx, an area synonymous with high crime and low hopes is now being referred to as "SoBro".
Now THAT is a sign of some serious changes, being born and raised in the Bronx. - 4rp4n3t, on 09/08/2008, -0/+1That is odd - I got straight in with no problems...At times like this, bugmenot is your friend:
http://www.bugmenot.com/view/nytimes.com - ToadLeg, on 09/09/2008, -0/+1I got a login screen last time. I didn't this time. They must be randomizing it so that enough people see it that it gets dugg but they can block others.
This is extremely bad: You assume when accessing a site that you will receive the page that you requested, no matter who you are. Instead, nytimes.com is randomly sending people to different pages when they try to access the same page, for their own personal gain.
Bury NYTimes.com - MattH, on 09/08/2008, -2/+2I Overheard this when getting off the Subway in Harlem when visiting NY a few years ago "Brother its to damn expensive to live in Harlem nowdays " True Story
- Wonderama, on 09/08/2008, -0/+0I'm not sure gentrification (and its common meaning) is a word restricted to use by certain races.
- cny730, on 09/11/2008, -0/+0I live in Harlem, and there is really more to it than that (even the article suggests as much). Harlem, like many historic places, has a very unique culture that, to some degree, is threatened by gentrification. Obviously people will move once they cannot afford the rent, and obviously everything changes... even the polar bears will become extinct soon... and so will the Harlem vibe... it's life, but it's still sad.
- bartol, on 12/07/2008, -0/+0It is allways been like that and will be in the future...
http://www.cheapflightsservice.com - BennFriedrich, on 09/08/2008, -10/+8Must login to read?
No thanks. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -2/+0How? By wearing baggy pants and putting on blackface?
- inactive, on 09/08/2008, -4/+1My brother has lived in Morningside Heights since the 80's. It's gotten much better in the last 10 years.
Harlem remains a cool place, but just about any where in NYC can be a dangerous place. - inactive, on 09/08/2008, -11/+1They make good basketball players there
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