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- Sonan, on 04/29/2009, -0/+12You also have to factor in the lifespan of the bulbs. Don't CFLs last a lot longer than incandescents? We've replaced about half the bulbs in our house over the last few years as the incandescents burn out, and we have yet to have a CFL stop working. Similarly with solar panels, the energy you get out of them depends greatly on how long they are in use.
- dawpa2000, on 04/30/2009, -0/+11There are different brands and different build qualities of CFLs. If you buy the cheap ones from the dollar stores, they will burn out earlier.
Some CFLs do not support the upside-down position. Check the product manual or specifications for that information. - hawkspur, on 04/30/2009, -1/+10Incandescent bulbs ARE bad for the environment, they are incredibly inefficient and wasteful, thus causing more power plants to be built etc.
The miniscule amount of mercury in a CFL is incredibly justified by the energy savings that a CFL produces over incandescent bulbs over time. It's just logic. - hawkspur, on 04/30/2009, -0/+6http://www.bugmenot.com/view/nytimes.com
- quantumflea, on 04/30/2009, -0/+6wtf i cant see the article without being a member. f that
- RyeBrye, on 04/30/2009, -0/+5It's the gay bar...er... dig bar.
It's mostly because of the cookie thing. Most browsers wont accept cookies from 3rd party sites by default, and NYT apparenlty wants a cookie or you get no love for the article. The digg bar makes their cookie a 3rd party cookie.
Try clicking the "X" right away on the gay bar when the article comes up - it will load for you.
(At least it does for me) - SHUUTOBI, on 04/30/2009, -1/+6Can't use CFLs on "touch sensitive variable intensity" lamps. :(
- Lostcause365, on 04/30/2009, -3/+8I had a CFL burn out faster than an incandescent at my apartment. It was outdoors, upside-down in a shaded socket, turned on 24 hrs a day for about a month and a half. CFLs aren't the perfect solution.
- dawpa2000, on 04/30/2009, -0/+5If powered by coal, incandescents use enough power equivalent to 10mg of mercury. On the other hand, while also powered by coal, CFLs use enough power equivalent to 2.4mg of mercury (total is 6.4mg of mercury considering the 4.0mg already contained in the bulb).
Chart:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Mercury_emission ...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_fluorescent_l ... - BubonicLouie, on 04/30/2009, -0/+5I've heard this one before, I think the answer is just one polish dude.
- inactive, on 04/30/2009, -0/+5How many lead singers does it take to screw in a light-bulb? Just one. He/She holds the bulb and waits for the world to revolve around them.
- cashbondho, on 04/30/2009, -0/+4LED light "bulbs" FTW!
- sexybobo, on 04/30/2009, -0/+4A lot of CFLs have trouble with cold temperatures to.
Since i have switched to CFL 3 years ago i have only had to change 4 bulbs instead of the 3 or 4 a month i use to go through. - hkrob, on 04/30/2009, -0/+4Firefox Plugin --> Skipscreen will save you
- TetchyTony, on 04/30/2009, -0/+3Not by me, it isn't. And I've stockpiled hundreds that the Greenie-Geek Commisars will never find.
- sexybobo, on 04/30/2009, -1/+4that is only with old CFLs because they couldn't be dimmed new ones can.
- bamafun, on 05/01/2009, -0/+3digg comment threads - none like them anywhere ! This is just one of the reasons i luv this site!
- pingveno, on 04/30/2009, -0/+3You need another hobby.
- samby, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2FTA: However, with the bulbs burning 24 hours a day, the shift from incandescent bulbs will not be putting any of the six wiremen out of work, Mr. Stroh said. Even with the fluorescents, he said, “it’s a big job.”
So 4,000 bulbs - CFLs lasts 10 years - thats 400 a year or 1 a day - it takes 6 men to change an average of 1 bulb a day? Sounds like a cushy job to me. - jbmcb, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2I *hate* CFL's. I've tried the highest-rated brand and the light they throw is awful, and I can still hear the ballast. The mega-pack of energy efficient incandescent bulbs I bought at Costco two years ago should last me another five, maybe six years, by then I'm hoping LEDs will be out in full force. Just in case, I'm still gonna hoard a case of GE Reveals.
- Contradictions, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2having bought CFL's for years, I've had to replace them just about as frequently as old fashioned bulbs. You want long lasting, go with LED's.
- jbmcb, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2What amount is acceptable? What are the exact effects of one ton of CO2 released into the atmosphere?
- Vaasman, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2They should have just switched over to black lights and starts a rave in grand central station. How awesome would that be?
- saladdays, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2if every person in the united states replaced every single lightbulb in their houses with compact fluorescents, we'd save 400 million tons of carbon dioxide a year.
our yearly carbon emissions is 7.1 bullion tons. how long are we gonna keep this up? - Contradictions, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2Grand Central Station is the name of the nearby post office.
- invinciblechunk, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2It's called "Grand Central Terminal", not "Station".
- saladdays, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2admittedly i don't have the time to look very hard (gotta write an 8 page essay about my housemate's experiences with gender) but essentially one ton of CO2 "overheats" the world. most information out there seems pretty dumbed down and eventually pushes "green living."
i'm also interested in what amount is acceptable, but i know this ***** about lightbulbs and driving half as much is quite arbitrary when you look at the big picture. - brenisa, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2I thought CFLs were going to last 10 years, so I replaced a bunch of bulbs with CFLs. After a year of turning them on and off every day, they either burned out or flickered in the most irritating way so I ended up replacing them all with regular incandescents. I'll wait for better LED technology before trying that experiment again.
- Contradictions, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2Those numbers just don't add up to me either.
- SHUUTOBI, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2All the ones I've been buying can't.
I'll keep a lookout for these new ones... - jbmcb, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2> but essentially one ton of CO2 "overheats" the world.
I get that, but by how much? - Contradictions, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2"It's just landfill chemical waste."
-Fixed - bilbus, on 05/10/2009, -0/+2I could not give a crap about making less CO2, what i would care about is reducing wasted power production.
- SHUUTOBI, on 04/30/2009, -0/+2Most of mine have lasted for about 4 years.
On/Off once or twice a day.
Can't wait til LEDs bulbs get cheaper though. - londoniscool, on 07/05/2009, -0/+1For a UK council worker it takes 5 people to change a normal light bulb. 1 guy to hold the bulb, 1 guy to advise, 1 guy to carry the ladder, and 1 guy to change the bulb and 1 guy who just watches everything.
http://londoniscool.com - kryzonAnn, on 04/30/2009, -0/+1 light is useful.. ok....
- WarriorBlake, on 04/30/2009, -0/+1well...I guess we know now...six. At least in Grand Central.
- rignopolis, on 04/30/2009, -3/+3Environment be damned, florescent bulbs suck. Always have.
- Jimbozu, on 04/29/2009, -11/+5It's called a lamp... not a bulb.
- GaltShrugged, on 04/29/2009, -16/+9I feel the need to replace the rhetoric in the description in this post. Incandescent bulbs are not bad for the environment. Fluorescent bulbs are actually very harmful for the environment because of the chemicals. Incandescent bulbs use more "energy" and the last time I checked that isn't a bad thing, but if it is, how much energy does it take to produce a fluorescent bulb versus an incandescent?
It's like the whole solar panel "phenomenon". What's the point of having a solar panel produce energy when you have to spend just as much energy creating it?
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