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- ozodin, on 08/29/2008, -6/+44Damn whiggers.
- pk7677, on 08/29/2008, -1/+26Digger please.
- SteelChicken, on 08/29/2008, -11/+32China should take a lesson from predominantly muslim societies, all the minorities there are treated perfectly.
- serif69, on 08/29/2008, -4/+20Immigration policy != minority citizen policy
- pintomp3, on 08/29/2008, -5/+20annexing the land of muslims and calling them terrorists for not going along with it? where have we seen this before?
- alapoet, on 08/28/2008, -18/+32It really is a shame the way China persecutes its ethnic minorities.
- justinx0r, on 08/29/2008, -4/+18I was wondering when someone was going to use a logical fallacy to paint America as a bad country.
- scurf, on 08/29/2008, -2/+15It is funny when these reporters talk about the "history" of China, they always start with 1949 and won't mention anything before that. China is a country with a 5000-year history. Both Tibet and Xinjiang were part of China dated back thousands of years. There were times when they were "independent" but they still remained very close ties to China. Mostly importantly, both of the regions were part of China during the last dynasty (Qing Dynasty 1644~1912). China fell apart in late nineteenth century until in 1949, P.R.China is formed and they reclaimed the territory that China used to have (they did not get everything back.)
- SpenceMasta, on 08/29/2008, -2/+14Last time I was in Shanghai I bought hash from these guys. It's just like America, you can purchase illegal drugs from your local ethnic minority!
- gavinhudson, on 08/29/2008, -25/+35Yeah, it's a good thing the same thing would NEVER happen in America. And can we add more barbed wire to that damn border wall?? Maybe we could expand the fence to cover ALL coastal or border areas of the country. I'd like to ensure that only the fittest ethnic minorities make it in to struggle against social oppression.
- ivansusanin, on 08/29/2008, -11/+21Did you notice how there's a muslim minority in every country that's being a pain in the ass?
- shidairyproduct, on 08/29/2008, -2/+11Muslim court: "apostasy will be punished by death."
so, steelchicken, the ethnic & religious tolerance is something that was a part of turkic tribes, NOT something in islam. - Dibou, on 08/29/2008, -7/+16You forgot the /sarcasm tag.
Example: An Indonesia woman (Muslim) wants to marry a Christian. The government says, "Sorry you can't you are a Muslim and you are not allowed to marry a Christian."
She says, "I don't want to be a Muslim anymore."
Government: "Go to a Muslim court and have them agree then."
Muslim court: "Sorry, you can not ever stop being a Muslim. Find someone else to marry." - sockpuppets, on 08/29/2008, -0/+9I'm going to watch the whole thing now so I can earn my "absurd" merit badge.
- MonoDede, on 08/29/2008, -1/+9Are you serious... I'm the son of immigrant latino parents and I've got to say your argument is pretty ***** stupid.
My parents came in legally and got their jobs legally. Granted, we're not the richest people out there, but I'm the first one to go to college and plan to do better than they did.
I for one don't really appreciate the large amount of illegal immigrants coming into the country. If they want to come in they should do so legally. If they're the older people then tough luck, they had a way easier chance back when they were younger. My parents took advantage of the fact that the government was really lenient a couple of decades ago and it was easy to become a citizen.
Also, why the ***** should the U.S. take so much care of them, I know for a fact that Mexico doesn't treat their illegal immigrants with half the care the U.S. does. The same probably goes for a number of other countries where large amounts of illegal immigrants come from.
And as a young latino U.S. citizen, I don't feel any more "oppressed" than your average intelligent U.S. citizen that questions the power of the government and the police (I'm not GO AMERICA!!! I do feel some ***** is out of hand against US CITIZENS, like the abuse of police power).
Also, this video doesn't have to do with illegal immigration, numbnuts. It has to do with the Chinese government annexing a territory that had nothing in common with the majority of its citizens and then suppressing them or developing their lands and helping them depending on which viewpoint you hold.
In other words, ***** you I'm an anteater. - DeFex, on 08/29/2008, -0/+8Is that why they live in the desert to stop them accidentally getting wet?
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -2/+9No, hypocrisy is lumping in an entire ethnic group with the actions of a hundred or so members by claiming they all share the same "ideology". This is exactly how bin Laden gets people to hate Americans, if you've ever studied his propaganda. See "Messages to the World", a compilation of interviews with him by Bruce Lawrence.
There are 22 Uighurs being held at Guantanamo, many unaware of the Taliban's involvement in 9/11, and most were trying to get training to fight Chinese "oppression" (which is debatable). - newties21, on 08/29/2008, -0/+7Xinjiang or East Turkestan has been part of China for centuries. There is written record and map showing it as part of China. That includes international recognition from foreign countries in the past.
I am sorry to report to you that China did not start in 1949.
Same with France or other countries did not start in 1940s.
You have to understand 1949 is an event when civil war was concluded, and communist faction won.
Certainly you dont believe Japan was formed in 1945.
I dislike the tone of this reporting.
Yes, there are ethnic nationalists who want independence, and there are some who went even deeper into religious extremism, and some who are probably just "concerned" types who disliked other ethnicities around them. But there are also other Uighurs who interact and live peacefully, and even join the communist party.
But my message is, dont u dare to give support and prop up this independence movement, like what u do to Tibet movement. - cPainplus3, on 08/29/2008, -1/+8they acutally sent people to bin-ladin's training camps in the 80s and 90s to support him...
- secleinteer, on 08/29/2008, -1/+7Digga please, spell it right!
- pintomp3, on 08/29/2008, -0/+6there is a muslim minority in america. maybe he was referring to america being a pain in the ass.
- manstein01, on 08/29/2008, -1/+7It's not needed.
- poisonborz, on 08/29/2008, -0/+5Bleh... American TV documentaries are a bit lame, no specific details on anything, flat 'shocking' moments, repeating every fact 10 times, and please, a bar that shows how much is left from the show?!
- hwy9nightkid, on 08/29/2008, -5/+10this lady glosses over SO much historical precedence.. its stunning. That place has been China for YEARS. this thing is so biased. She barely speaks Mandarin herself.
- soccerbud, on 08/30/2008, -0/+5the documentary lost all its credibility when it claimed that xinjiang was annexed in 1949.
The truth is that Xinjiang was officially annexed by the Qing dynasty in the 1700's.
She's just off by a couple hundred years there ... - lukas88, on 08/29/2008, -2/+7So we are to blame an entire people for the actions of a few?
Actually I can see why you would think we would be easy to convince..... - dengzhi, on 08/29/2008, -0/+5right........and the US hosted the olympics how many times? and what is the US currently doing? invading other countries? (at least China doesn't get involved with other countries affairs)
- ryrocker, on 08/29/2008, -2/+7and we need a giant air filter!!!
we dont want that filthy mexican air coming into our country!
god bless america! - duckyinc, on 08/29/2008, -3/+8Oh so what? It's just another war on terror except the government is winning this time, I don't mind their methods -.-
- warsongs7, on 08/30/2008, -1/+6ISRAEL!!!! Hooray for the zionists.
- scurf, on 08/29/2008, -1/+6And I am sick of them pretending as "China experts". I watched the video and this reporter Laura Ling spoke really poor Mandarin herself when she tried to talk with the local kids in Mandarin, and then claimed that these kids can't speak the language. That was just hilarious.
- SpenceMasta, on 08/29/2008, -1/+5Yeah clearly they aren't, I'm sure it's quite clear what the situation is about a group of people you've probably never heard of or cared about until you watched a 26 min documentary on the internet
Yes, CLEARLY they are not benefiting from the economic miracle even though xinjiang/uighur people who have assimilated can be found all over cities like Beijing (its even shown in the video), and it's unfair the people who were interviewed are called separatists because they submit requests to ban people from living in their area because they are of another race.
Maybe their culture is dying, cultures die all the time because of economics, the younger generations are faced with the economic problem of either staying at home to raise goats or accept government assistance, learn Chinese, and go to a city to get a job. They face prejudice trying to get a job as a minority, but so does every other minority in any other country.
That is the bottom line. - Picer, on 08/29/2008, -2/+6The punishment for death by apostasy is out of historical context.
The Prophet decreed the punishment as at the time the Muslims were very vulnerable to people who would "pretend" to convert to a Muslim to find what they doing and spy on them, Jews, Christians and the Arab Pagans did this numerous times.
Muslims no longer have this problem but unfortunately some Mullahs these days seem to have thrown logic and reasoning to the wind. - TrueXtremeIcon, on 08/29/2008, -4/+8Yes, America has a long history of treating the Native Americans in absolutely fantastic ways. Being Native American in the USA is SPECTACULAR.
- tjdegroat, on 08/29/2008, -0/+4It's actually Lisa's sister, Laura. They look a lot alike and their voices are even more similar.
- jyac, on 08/29/2008, -4/+8killing policemen is just what terrorists do... soon they will learn blow themself up just like those people in iraq.
- blinktude, on 08/29/2008, -0/+4whigger please
- inactive, on 08/29/2008, -0/+4Wow, looks like they have a lot in common with Americans after all.
- TrueXtremeIcon, on 08/29/2008, -0/+4Perfect storm you retard, not perfect roman empire.
- warsongs7, on 08/30/2008, -0/+4@jyac
He was being sarcastic. Pointing out the obvious. - someguyfromuk, on 08/29/2008, -1/+4Couldn't agree more. Whenever reporters do a piece on Tibet, Xinjiang etc, they always seem to mention that those territories were invaded and annexed... ahem, they weren't annexed or invaded since China never officially relinquished them in the first place, they merely moved into reassert control because the Han were busy fighting a civil war.
Same thing with Taiwan, there's always mention of a threat of a Chinese 'invasion' yet Taiwan isn't even officially recnognised by the UN as a sovereign state, so it wouldn't be an invasion nor would there be an annexation, just a reassertion of direct control. - dengzhi, on 08/30/2008, -0/+3"these kids.. I don't think they goto school, or they at least don't speak mandarin very well" wtf??
you can't even speak mandarin very well yourself. You have the right to talk about other's chinese language skills? your a joke. - MacBookForMe, on 08/29/2008, -8/+11Video reminds me to similar video about Tibet...they are afraid to talk.
More they suppress them, stronger they become...China should learn a bit more form its own amazing history. - kingmanic, on 08/29/2008, -1/+4Collapsing due to a perfect storm of external and internal factors?
- cPainplus3, on 08/29/2008, -11/+14erm, i was born in china and we DO know about xinjiang. in fact my moms best friends from there....
the muslims from there are immune to certain laws and can legally dodge taxes normal people would pay in china. they basically get special treatments like the native americans do in the states. all the benifits, none of the responsibilities....
this article is just wrong... seriously. i dont know what the authors intentions are, but id say shes just another one of those free-tibet hippies. - OMGIAMTHEMAN, on 08/29/2008, -1/+4the muslims lived there and had their own land before there was a "china." Also, the uigers are mostly subsistence farmers, I doubt there is much competition from any of them. Lastly, the "Han" people? who refers to mainland chinese as Han anymore besides my 90 y/o racist grandmother?
- TomDigg77, on 08/29/2008, -0/+3"Ethnic Chinese" by Lauraling the so called-reporter.
what the fuk are the Ethnic Chinese? There is no Ethnic Chinese. There are 56 Ethnic groups in China. And Chinese is not an ethnic group. Virtually all of them getting well together. Separatist well always be the exceptions. - mrb4b00, on 08/29/2008, -7/+10The last time Muslems attacked America, we invaded the Middle East.
We took their oil fields, raped their women, destroyed their families, and overthrew their governments.
Now how does that compared to the "persecution" by the Chinese? - ahawks, on 08/29/2008, -0/+3Bury me, I'm a little retarded today. I had my firefox zoom at 90% and the flash widget was being clipped on the bottom, hiding the pause button.
- kingmanic, on 08/29/2008, -1/+4The only places with growing wealth are the province of Guangzhou, The city of Beijing, The city of Shanghai, The Macao special district, the Hong Kong special district, and the areas immediately next to Guangzhou. The rest of china has taken a back seat. Guangzhou is somewhat like the Quebec of China. They've always run with a different language, a different government style, and some resistance to party policies. The Cantonese language is even a recognized official language.
Most Chinese you know outside of China are Cantonese from Guangzhou. Like me. -
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