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- inactive, on 02/23/2009, -4/+25A firefight with Omar Khadr is all fun and game until someone loses an eye.
- pelican2164, on 02/23/2009, -1/+20I wonder what it looked like in 2003.
- alanocu, on 02/22/2009, -21/+38Soccer, art classes, movies, prayer rugs, 14,000 books......this place is a Club Med for terrorists. If we treated them any better it would be criminal.
In the New York Times, Charles Savage reports on Barack Obama’s latest endorsement of Bush national security policy:
"The Obama administration has told a federal judge that military detainees in Afghanistan have no legal right to challenge their imprisonment there, embracing a key argument of former President Bush’s legal team."
This vindicates the Bush administration’s position on enemy combatants, invalidates Bush’s overwrought detractors, and highlights the incoherence of Obama’s shuttering of Guantanamo Bay. The only difference between prisoners being held in Afghanistan and those at Guantanamo Bay is Gitmo’s longer history as an American base. But that shouldn’t change any moral or legal argument about the rights of non-American, non-state actors to have their cases heard by federal judges. And if President Obama was attempting to make some human rights point by closing Guantanamo Bay, it’s worth keeping in mind what Eric Schmitt wrote in the Times last month:
"Military personnel who know [the American airbase] Bagram and Guantánamo describe the Afghan site as tougher and more spartan. The prisoners have fewer privileges and virtually no access to lawyers. The Bush administration never allowed journalists or human rights advocates inside."
Yet Barack Obama gives that site a pass while turning the end of Gitmo into a celebrated anti-Bush photo-op. If there is an animating principle behind Obama’s national security policies it’s best described as showmanship. - REBECCAFRIEDMAN, on 02/22/2009, -1/+17Fascinating pictures.... especially the library and art class area.
- rewinn, on 02/23/2009, -3/+17Are the anti-Communist Uighuers at Gitmo an enemy of our nation? Even the Bush Administration thinks they aren't but there they sit, being held under no law but that of force.
It's nice that the Bush Administration cleaned up the place for a photo-op but you can't taken away beatings once administered. - Koushiro, on 02/23/2009, -2/+16Ummm, we have no idea if these people are our sworn enemies. Well, at least before we locked them into a prison for years without any charges or a trial or anything, I'm sure now they hate the heck out of us...
It's just that before that we have absolutely no idea why they've been captured and detained like they were, so they could have had nothing to do with anything. - ElGubrush, on 02/23/2009, -6/+19what a lovely light they chose to cast all this torture and illegal detainment in.
- Balath, on 02/22/2009, -5/+14"Guantánamo Bay's Final Days" has a nice ring to it that's got nothing to do with rhyme.
- jasonstock, on 02/23/2009, -1/+10I doubt they close it. Obama went from doing it right away to the end of his presidency
- vitaminz1990, on 02/23/2009, -0/+9Dugg for picture 26.
- EllsworthT, on 02/23/2009, -0/+8He hasn't: He issued an executive order directing the closure of the detention facilities by January 2010. You can find the text of the order here: http://www.usatoday.com/news/washington/2009-01-22 ... Critics charge it was a publicity stunt because the order has too many loopholes and may not change anything. For instance, it allows the detainees simply to be moved to another facility after the deadline. (See Section 3.)
- inactive, on 02/23/2009, -1/+9To all the people who say places like Guantanamo Bay shouldn't be closed because the people there don't deserve to be free; Whether the detainees are guilt or not is not the point. The point is that they are being held illegally, seized by the government under no law, with no legal recourse. They haven't stood trial, they haven't been sentenced, they are simply prisoners because the government says they deserve imprisonment. Some people are fine with that, because the detainees are "terrorists" or "muslims", the all encompassing "them", people who are not like us and who we don't care about. The problem is that if we let our government take "them" because they are terrorists, our government may soon be unlawfully imprisoning our own people for things which they may call terrorism, but almost certainly won't be. Rule of Law exists to keep us all free from oppression, not just those we pick and choose of being worthy. If we let the government mistreat one group of people it sets a precedent.
- ousthouse, on 02/23/2009, -0/+7The Harry Potter books are the most popular books in the library? All opinions about Guantanimo aside - that's kinda funny.
- stockjones, on 02/23/2009, -2/+8So where do we send some of these people they are letting free. its obvious a lot of them are true terrorists, but hey I guess it doesnt matter.
http://www.dvorak.org/blog/2009/01/25/released-git ...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24504862/
http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/28800516/ - domfosnz, on 02/23/2009, -0/+6I was surprised to see a library and art class
- rewinn, on 02/23/2009, -1/+7Gitmo's a problem only because the Bush Administration tried to pretend it was a place beyond all law where our government can do anything it wants.
There is no such place because our Constitution limits what our government can do; where there is no law there is no government. Once the Gitmo concentration camp comes under the rule of law, it serves no purpose; Supermax in Colorado is just as secure and better for interrogations anyway. - rewinn, on 02/23/2009, -1/+7It was an executive order, see the whitehouse.gov website
- fuzzybeard, on 02/23/2009, -0/+5Just goes to prove the old adage,"There's a way to tell when politicians are lying: they open their mouths."
- Nickolassc, on 02/23/2009, -7/+12I wasn't aware President Obama had officially ordered club Gitmo closed.
- Daevild, on 02/23/2009, -3/+8Interesting alternative view of what we normally see about that place.
- pelican2164, on 02/23/2009, -1/+6Most of the other books in the library were drafts of Rush Limbaugh's autobiography.
- stevelawrence, on 02/23/2009, -0/+5Images 8, 13 and 15 look like screenshots from a FPS
- Rizin, on 02/23/2009, -0/+5Harry Potter and the Final Days of Guantanamo Bay?
- inactive, on 02/23/2009, -2/+6Allāhu Akbar
- Deveak, on 02/23/2009, -0/+41. second life is gay
2. your link is gay
3. by the laws of intrinsic value, you are gay
4. eat all the dicks you spammer - tatteredtoy, on 02/23/2009, -0/+3I was a little shocked at how nice some of the facilities are. Some American families would jump at the opportunity for living in a place like that. The art classes and movie watching got to me the most though.
Once closed, it will be an incredible waste of space and should be given a new purpose. - IIECONII, on 02/23/2009, -1/+4Technically isn't THIS the insiders' view of Guantanamo?
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thum ...
Ok, maybe only on the route to and from... - Abatrour, on 02/23/2009, -0/+3Time to send them to the other secret prisons in Europe!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/4461470.stm - whatthefu, on 02/23/2009, -1/+4I really don't think you should be picking and choosing details of a prison that you think benefit your own political beliefs. That's not how opinions should be formed.
- greatrauf, on 02/23/2009, -1/+4How the detainees are treated is not shown in these pictures.
For knowing the reality check out the testimonies of the soldiers who worked there. Believe me you will be shocked.
http://humanrights.ucdavis.edu/projects/the-guanta ... - ritchmaster, on 02/23/2009, -11/+13The sooner it's closed, the better. Good pictures nonetheless
- janne1, on 02/23/2009, -0/+2It's such a nice place, it's great that Obama will renege on his earlier campaign rhetoric and decide to not close it after all. Superb.
- EllsworthT, on 09/25/2009, -0/+2Surprise, surprise. Looks like Obama won't be closing Guantanamo after all. (Another broken promise.)
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artic ...
Where's the liberal outrage? You people are disgusting. - Nickolassc, on 02/23/2009, -0/+2A lot of them are men without countries and that's one reason Gitmo has been kept open for so long. They don't have any country that will accept these men without executing them.
- level, on 02/23/2009, -1/+3http://fora.tv/2008/07/10/Mahvish_Khan_My_Guantana ...
Interesting video of a lady who is a Miami Lawyer who became a translator there. First person she met was a pediatrician and wife was an economist and second guy was an 80 year old parapelegic. She had no idea what they were even doing there. Pretty interesting video. - fuzzybeard, on 02/23/2009, -1/+3قد السلام من النبي وبركاته
- inactive, on 02/23/2009, -2/+4Dugg for "giant banana rats"
they sound like fun, like muppets - FLMarijuana, on 02/23/2009, -0/+2I'll believe it's in it's final days when it actually gets closed. Talk is cheap.
- inactive, on 02/23/2009, -0/+2@rewinn
Thanks for the common sense which appears to be so lacking on Digg
REALITY CHECK You dont go to Guantanamo and enjoy margaritas, you go there to be tortured and raped with objects until you want to be a terrorist and then you are....let go - b3owulf, on 02/23/2009, -0/+2way to be lame
- johnnr2, on 02/23/2009, -0/+1Plus, they're in a tropical climate! ;->
- rewinn, on 02/23/2009, -1/+2Well, he issued the executive order in January. Look on the whitehouse dot gov website.
The Gitmo prison is not an asset in the war on ... whatever it is we're fighting - rewinn, on 02/23/2009, -3/+4If you have evidence that they have done something wrong, you park them in a maximum security facility under law, and give them a trial.
If you have no evidence, you let them go.
It's not surprising that after five years of abuse, many of them might decide they hate our great nation. Gitmo has been a great recruiting poster for the bad guys. - headzoo, on 02/23/2009, -2/+3""Military personnel who know [the American airbase] Bagram and Guantánamo describe the Afghan site as tougher and more spartan. The prisoners have fewer privileges and virtually no access to lawyers."
Yes, that was the case while Bush was the president, which is in no way a reflection on Obama. He's only been in office for a month now. If a year from now the facilities are still as spartan, then you'll have every right to say he's just a showman. Until then, sit back, relax, and lets see what he's going to do. - drufus, on 03/08/2009, -0/+1As an American, I would like the rest of you to know we aren't all mouthbreathing racists like the poster above.
- buddypriefert, on 02/24/2009, -1/+2Are you all major pussies or what???
Did you even do your homework and read/view the photos? I have spent some time (by choice) in civilian prisons and these cells are the Taj Mahal compared to what I have been in. I have read testimonies and hearsay, many of which have obvious underlying motives of lies. Has there been improper handling, sure...when you have the maximum security of such a facility, it has to be ran tough and lines will be broken and (of course) must be address. But shut the damn thing down? Are you out of your mind? Geeze, as if you think the ROW will be kinder to American detainees....
Here's a few clips I took directly from the captions:
---Detainees are given prayer rugs, and an arrow on the concrete floor points toward Mecca.
---If they’re well behaved, they can watch movies once a week here while shackled to the couch.
---Inmates get at least two hours a day outside, playing soccer or running
---Detainees are offered art classes in this common area inside Camp 6.
---The center’s library includes more than 14,000 books in 22 languages, including the whole Harry Potter series.
---Staff Sgt. Layne Morris, of Salt Lake City, lost his right eye in the 2002 firefight with Omar Khadr
Wise up liberal Kool-Aid drinkers. - IvanB, on 02/23/2009, -0/+1Indeed, nice case of photojournalism.
- fuzzybeard, on 02/23/2009, -0/+1I did a GIS for giant banana rats; I thought they might be largish, but DAAAAAAAMN!!!
First result from search:
http://www.apopo.org/hires/reward2.JPG - anrahman, on 02/23/2009, -10/+11Great pictures - I'm glad they are shutting that place down. It is an embarrassment for America in many ways and it could be a pathway to getting better relations going with Cuba soon hopefully as well.
- greatrauf, on 02/23/2009, -1/+2How the detainees are and were treated is not shown in these pictures.
For knowing the reality check out the testimonies of the soldiers who worked there. Believe me you will be shocked.
http://humanrights.ucdavis.edu/projects/the-guanta ... -
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