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- FirstCuts, on 06/19/2009, -0/+34After last year's absolute match for the ages, this is INCREDIBLY disappointing. Having back-to-back Grand Slams without Nadal in a final just doesn't feel right.
- KrazyKoala, on 06/19/2009, -1/+20Nadal may be one of the most talented players but he has an aggressive style of play. At the French open some said that glory was lost from Federer because he didn't play Nadal, but that's a stupid argument. If Nadal's style of play leads to injuries, so be it. Slow and steady wins the race.
- AlishaHord, on 06/19/2009, -3/+19Bring on the Fed-man.
- Rorsach, on 06/19/2009, -0/+11Bit long winded, but here's the math (not mine btw):
If Federer wins Wimbledon, he will be number 1 on the day after Wimbledon.
Else Nadal will still be number 1 at that moment.
If Murray wins Wimbledon, he will be number 1 on the 20th of july
... but if Federer reaches the semifinal, Murray will lose his number 1 to Federer on the 3rd of august.
If Federer reaches the semifinal and Murray doesn't win Wimbledon, Federer will be number 1 on the 27th of july.
If Federer reaches the quarterfinal and Murray doesn't win Wimbledon, Federer will be number 1 on the 3rd of August.
The only way for Nadal to keep his number 1 until at least the 17th of august would be that Federer loses before the quarterfinal and Murray doesn't win Wimbledon. But even in that case, he would have to reach at least the final in Montreal to keep his number 1 on the 24th of august as he will lose his 800 points from the olympic games (Federer will lose 200 points from the olympics)
Djokovic cannot be number 1 before Montreal anyway
Here are some precisions and detailed calculations :
For the 6th of july right after Wimbledon the points so far (taking out last year's Wimbledon) are :
Nadal 10735
Federer 9220
Murray 8730
Djokovic 7790
Then it's impossible for Murray (or Djokovic) to be number 1 right after Wimbledon
Then on the 20th of july Murray will get his points from the Queens at last, as he will lose his zero-penalty for not taking part in Indianapolis last year (Murray ==> 8730 + 250 = 8980 points):
then if he wins Wimbledon, Murray will be number 1 on the 20th of july
Then on the 27th of july the points in Toronto last year will fall down : so far it would be :
Nadal 9735 (=10735-1000 ... +Davis Cup ?)
Federer 9210 (=9220-10 ... + Wimbledon)
Murray 8530 (=8980-450 ... + Wimbledon)
Djokovic 7630 (=7790-250+90 ... + Wimbledon)
Then on the 3rd of august the points in Cincinnatti last year will fall down : so far it would be :
Nadal 9285 (=10735-1000-450 ... +Davis Cup?)
Federer 9060 (=9220-10-150 ... + Wimbledon)
Murray 7530 (=8980-450-1000 ... + Wimbledon)
Djokovic 7020 (=7790-250-700+90+90... + Wimbledon)
At this moment both Federer and Murray could be number 1, Djokovic still couldn't,
but
to keep his number 1 on the 3rd of august, Murray would have to hope that Federer didn't reach the semifinal in Wimbledon
Next event would be Montreal (olympic games last year falling down). - efreeman, on 06/19/2009, -0/+10Very bad news. Hopefully this doesn't become a recurring issue for him.
- Tamant, on 06/19/2009, -1/+8Great for Federer, bad for the sport of tennis.
- zwendkos, on 06/19/2009, -1/+8So, in other words, Federer wins.
- nazbot, on 06/19/2009, -0/+7Too bad, it must be incredibly disappointing for him.
I saw him at the Australian Open. Got to watch him on a practice court. He was incredibly courteous after his practice, going around talking with people, giving people's digicams to his manager so he could pose in photos with them (if they asked him to), signing anything you offered him. Literally spent some time with every single person watching him practice. I gained a lot of respect for him as a person for it. Incidentally, I heard Federer was the same.
Roddick, on the other hand only signed one or two items and was off. - Hedison, on 06/19/2009, -2/+7Shame it would have been great to watch Federer beat him at wimbledon
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -1/+6As someone mentioned in another thread - Federer did what he had to do to get to (and win) the finals; Nadal did not. End of story. A Federer win over Nadal in the French Open finals would have been simply epic, but the fact that this particular match didn't happen in no way diminishes Federer's accomplishment.
- ernisttong, on 06/19/2009, -0/+5i totally agree. that was one of the best finals i have ever seen. i don't care much for nadal's stroke, but i have to say he's one hell of a talented guy. I hope he gets better soon
- BruceVidic, on 06/19/2009, -0/+5and Federer is on the verge of winning his 15th
- omarlassan, on 06/19/2009, -0/+4Fed Vs Soderling reMatch
- staffa, on 06/19/2009, -0/+3*****, I wanted to see Federer beat him in the final :(
Nadal is still my 2nd favorite player and watching these two giants play....well *****. - sibos, on 06/19/2009, -0/+3Wow, thank you very much. Hopefully this is a pretty short term injury for Rafa, but to miss a little time is all it might take to dethrone him give that it's at this point in the season. Normally he'd have lots of points from the French Open that could carry over a bit, but (basically) missing two grand slams he won last year is quite a blow to his points. All told, I'd put money on Fed taking back the #1 spot.
- DreamVsPs2, on 06/19/2009, -1/+4congrats mister federereereereere
- anshuman, on 06/19/2009, -0/+3everytime?
- chaos7, on 06/19/2009, -1/+4well now we know who wins wimbledon
- palehorse864, on 06/20/2009, -0/+3What time does Sean Connery go to Wimbledon?
- aralls, on 06/19/2009, -1/+3I hate the capris and how he bounces the ball 12 times before each serve, but I'm really going to miss seeing him play this year.
- Jon211, on 06/19/2009, -1/+3I think you get 2000 points for winning it and 1000 for the final.
So, Rafa will be on 10735 after Wimbledon and Federer would be on 11620 if he wins.
If he is a beaten finalist he'll remain on 10620, so would need a win to regain number 1 spot. - WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+2Definitely won't be as interesting without Nadal. Love him or hate him, he's a tremendous player - he doesn't slack off even for a moment, and thus always gives his audience a performance well worth watching. Also, he's the only real challenge to Federer on grass.... Hope he gets his health straightened out in time for the US Open.
- lazybuoy, on 06/19/2009, -4/+6Scared of the guy he destroys just about every time they play? Okay.
- dysonlu, on 06/19/2009, -0/+2Well, looks like back-to-back Slam winner will be Federer this year...
- sibos, on 06/19/2009, -0/+2Does anyone know if Federer winning will that be enough in the points to put him back at number 1? As it stands right now, Rafa has 12735 and Fed 10620 (as of June 15th). Since he came in 2nd last year, I would imagine that Roger's score won't adjust too much, but Nadal will lose a lot by not even competing.
Men's Rankings: http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/tennis/rankings?y ... - compulsive1, on 06/19/2009, -0/+2except Murray is not a grass specialist. He is a defensive pusher and grass rewards hard hitters.
Nadal with his 3 finals at Wimbledon is an exception to the rule- because he is one of the exceptional players. Murray still has to prove that he is one of the elite. - Rahaz, on 06/20/2009, -0/+2Losing to Federer won't matter to his reputation. He's already taken the title of the only player that can consistently beat Federer even when he's on his game.
Shame I was hoping for a Federer-Nadal final. - compulsive1, on 06/19/2009, -0/+2No he is scared that another journeyman like Soderling will take him out in 3rd or 4th round.
There is no shame in losing to Federer- Fed beat him plenty of times- especially off clay.
But, being beaten by a nobody is a frightening prospect for a great player at the pinnacle of his career. - dsmx, on 06/19/2009, -0/+1Not disputing that I'm only saying that federer hasn't beaten murry for a while.
- dsmx, on 06/19/2009, -0/+1wouldn't get your hopes up federer's record against andy murry isn't that good.
- WhiskeyLemur, on 06/30/2009, -0/+1It's like you people aren't even trying =(
- uruururr, on 06/19/2009, -0/+110000% correct.
- manicleek, on 06/19/2009, -2/+3Murray
- rwbrinso, on 06/19/2009, -11/+12He's scared of Federer.
- anshuman, on 06/19/2009, -0/+1isnt that sweet coincidence :) . Go fed Go ! :)
***** nadal btw. :D - swraman, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1tennistorrents.com
- drmart, on 06/19/2009, -0/+1I have to agree with you there. Though I would add the grunting and the towel wipe down after EVERY point to the list. As they say though, attendance does matter when determining greatness.
- swraman, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1so sad. Last years final drew so many non-tennis fans and its sad it wont happen again this year.
- v0ider, on 06/20/2009, -0/+1Eh, he beat Murray in the US Open
- berobreo, on 06/19/2009, -1/+2Almost...
- markperia, on 06/20/2009, -0/+1The difference is you can't really run around the court with a broken knee and you can with mono. I had mono a couple of years back and I was able to play soccer almost every week still. I doubt I'd be able to do that with a broken knee.
- psients, on 06/20/2009, -0/+1They'd probably get better ratings if they simply rebroadcasted last year's final.
Anyone know where I can find that on DVD or something? - jctrldel, on 06/20/2009, -1/+2Nadal is not "100%" so he pulls out of Wimbledon. As I recall Roger Federer had Mono all last year and played every slam. All respect for Nadal is gone from my pov.
- nmcphee, on 06/20/2009, -1/+2Djokovic vs Federer could still be amazing
- swraman, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1At Indian wells a couple years back Nadal didnt sign any when I saw him on teh practice courts...but it was understandable b/c he was playing in a couple hours.
- swraman, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1its not that complicated a question...
yes it will. he gains 600 points from his last appearance, and Nadal loses 2000 for not appearing. 2600 point switch. - swraman, on 06/26/2009, -0/+1True. hopefully the matador has at least 5 more peak years in him, but by the look of things...losing at the French, PULLING OUT of wimby...not looking so good
- nmoulana, on 06/19/2009, -2/+2***** man I had money that Federer wouldn't break the record until 2010, *****.
- jctrldel, on 06/22/2009, -0/+0I also had mono in my teens and I was unconscious for the better part of half a year. Additionally Nadal does not have any broken knees! He has tendinitis. As a guitar player I've had my bought s of tendentious but still played that night. So ....there!
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