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Theories of Evolution: A secret link between ''Lost'' and ''Heroes''
ew.com — Exclusive: Jeff Jensen investigates a secret link between ''Lost'' and ''Heroes''! Plus: hunches about Kate and Sawyer, Sun, and the Island
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- Maracle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11This guy is great he comes up with 2/3 amazing lost theories each week
- OrangeWhip, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Wow, just imagine what the extra 1/3 of a theory would be like.
- Maracle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1oops lol i love grammer
- arunforce, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2You sure love spelling. ^^
- billyboobs34, on 10/12/2007, -18/+18I've seen Lost once or twice but it never peaked my interest. Heroes on the other hand kicks ass!
- anagoge, on 10/12/2007, -5/+36Piqued :p
- teddyrux, on 10/12/2007, -4/+20I just wanted to say that whoever dugg down 'piqued' is clearly quite ignorant. After instant messaging destroyed the language, I'm proud to see Digg trying to pull it back together, one misused word at a time.
- christkv, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I noticed that they used the word frak two episodes ago, influence from Battlestar galactica ?
- ahawks, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12it's also been in veronica mars several times this season. Frak is the new frick. Personally, I think frick was better.
- mandarin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9He's actually paid to make this stuff up?
- koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Don't you wish you had his job? I sure wish I did. *sighs*
- antoniojvr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I'm a software cost estimator, therefore I am paid to make stuff up, too :)
- starexplorer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1the best part is he's having fun with this all, obsessed for all the right reasons, if you will...
- gendjinn, on 10/12/2007, -7/+9This is NOT how evolution works. His and Heroes descriptions of how evolution work is as likely as a show on NBC and a show on ABC actually sharing the same creative universe. What is being passed off here as evolution is actually teleology. As someone who was once an evolution researcher this stuff is like nails on a chalk board.
- merr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Hey, it's entertainment. Chill out. I'm a full-time programmer/sysadmin and you don't here me bitching about the impossible things that Chloe (24) does, do you?
...or are you blasting the blogger, not the show? - koregaonpark, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3No, but we "hear" you b****ing.
- jrchin, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2I totally agree with you. This is the sort of thing that makes people think evolution is about as credible as Creation Science. Irritating as hell, but I love the shows. I'm a programmer and I don't care about bad depictions of computers on TV, but evolution vs bullshiat is a hot topic for me.
- merr, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7OK, fine. I typed the wrong word. Because, obviously to be taken seriously on digg you have to type everything perfectly all the time. Everyone is bound to make a mistake or two and you knew what I meant from the context.
Don't be an ass. Thanks. - Nukem945, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8My biggest problem is that the show revolves around the fact that these "hereos" are supposedly products of evolutionary leaps forward that are happening at exactly the same moment in time. That is not how Evolution works. It takes time, lots and lots of time. This leads me to believe that the "heroes" were a product of some experiment, rather than the product of Mother Nature.
- ElectricGrandpa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Are you all really arguing about the science in a *fictional* show? Come on. It's a cool reason for them having super powers. That's it. Nobody is saying that this could actually happen in *real life*.
- TheToecutter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The moment you try to overanalyze works of fiction is the moment you should stop partaking in that particular piece of fiction...because you've just ruined it for yourself. Sit back, relax, and just enjoy it for what it is...brain candy.
- merr, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Hey, it's entertainment. Chill out. I'm a full-time programmer/sysadmin and you don't here me bitching about the impossible things that Chloe (24) does, do you?
- zigamorph, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Anybody notice on this weeks lost episode 303 that the young kid that Lock picked up mentioned he was heading to Eureka?
- themarq, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I love LOST and immediately after seeing the pilot for Heros I turned to my wife and said, "It's like the network execs looked at each other and said... How can we make a show that's like Lost... but isn't lost?"
Anyway, I think they're both great. I especially like the Hiro character on Heros.- FreydNot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I too watch Lost and Heros, but Heros is really starting to annoy me. Heros seems to treat the audience like a bunch of morons by over explaining stuff. Lost somehow manages to make the obvious stuff obvious without cramming it down our throats screaming "see this? See this? Let me put it another way just in case you didn't catch it."
A good example of what Lost is doing right was in this weeks episode. They set up the whole thing with Desmond and Hurley, and when they did the first part it was obvious that something important happened that we would learn later. Once the second part happened, it was emphasized by the camera switching between Desmond and Hurley, but never once was it spoken about. Very nice finesse for such a major show element. - lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2Umm, nice noticing the obvious. The event was Desmond telling Hurley about Locke's speach before it happened. The camera switched back and forth to draw attention to Hurley freaking out and Desmond probably trying to figure out the consequences of his mistake.
In any case, your point is still valid because it wasn't spoon fed.
But to contrast Lost with Jericho, to take a phrase from Dave Chappelle: Jericho is ***** up. They are trying too hard to emulate Lost that they are taking it too far. The plot runs entirely too slow without telling you anything, it is truely torture to watch. - FreydNot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1My point exactly.
- FreydNot, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I too watch Lost and Heros, but Heros is really starting to annoy me. Heros seems to treat the audience like a bunch of morons by over explaining stuff. Lost somehow manages to make the obvious stuff obvious without cramming it down our throats screaming "see this? See this? Let me put it another way just in case you didn't catch it."
- teddyrux, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6I just wanted to share my love for Heroes and nut job conspiracy theorists.
On a side note, have you all realized what Peter Patrelli's power is? ...Think about it. Hint: It's not flight.- DJSourMonkE, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8He's like Rogue but without the touching part
- gosix, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10The reacharound?
- themarq, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I'm only digging this down because it's a bit of a spoiler. Since it hasn't been explicitly demonstrated yet what his power is some people might prefer to not have it spoiled just yet.
- modsuperstar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I wish I could digg that reacharound comment more then once. That's gold.
- teddyrux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It's only a spoiler if you don't pay attention to the show. I haven't seen any extra material anywhere...but to each his own.
- gosix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@modsuperstar
Thanks! Yeah, there aren't many fans of Drawn Together (or FMJ for that matter) on here. - lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Drawn Together?
One word: Prell
- themacjedi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love all of this speculation, waste of time, maybe. But it's still fun.
I created a comparison between Lost and Earth 2
http://themacjedi.com/files/4755a110e27110b700f2fde37f3cc09b-133.html
I think it's still possible to learn about the future of Lost through Earth 2.
Damn this stuff is fun. - btgoss, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4And someone else said they liked the View... and the guy in seat 24c was named Simpson..and the show is about numbers....and Sawyer has a criminal mind... and after the crash there were at least two and a half men on the beach... mostly made up of mama's family... and none of it made the cbs evening news...
wow... I am truly pathetic. - BobbyOnions, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1It's fiction, for *****'s sake, get a grip.
- TheToecutter, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Have never watched Lost.
Heroes (so far) has been a blast! - ajck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1I've just read the article. Jeff Jensen needs to get a life. Seriously. And fast. And I say that as a Lost fan. His only saving grace is that he mentions he has a wife. But still...
- ProTibet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I might be wrong, but I feel like we can relate any positive achievements we the humans have made can be related/credited to evolution. That way, even when some of our achievements, if any, is made in the complete absence of evolution process, we are prone to relating it to evolution. I believe in evolution, but with a slight doubt.
- wisebob134, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1that'd be crazy if he was right
- dslabuser, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It would not be the first time that shows on competing networks shared the same universe. There was blog post years ago by the guy who created the cartoon series Static Shock about how continuity sucks. He basically explained how almost every show on every network was connected through crossovers and shared characters to either St. Elsewhere(that series ended as the dream on a mentaly handicaped person I think) or to Newhart(thus all television series were the dreams of Bob Newhart).
- bobbienewman, on 04/04/2008, -0/+0I've seen Heroes once or twice but it never peaked my interest. Lost on the other hand kicks ass!
- toliman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1nice ideas, but utter bull**** on most parts designed to fill up space.the last theory/point about mu, is more loosely tied to speculation about the 4-toed statue & the idea of a wandering 'lost' island of mythology, the song is probably a loose affiliation with an 'underworld', but symbology has that effect, an unconscious connection of laterally parallel ideas with commonalities i.e. counting the number of vowels in a sentence to figure out if someone is going to die, the number of times a person breathes might indicate they are lying, etc.. i dont mind someone just trying to make a few leaps of faith, like time travel, 12-monkeys, underworld/ purgatory, infertility, GE people/animals, etc. but this article is just facile, retarded, and silly. i have the odd feeling he trawls lost forum boards to gather ideas, and while retreading for the blog, gets it absurdly wrong like tim allen from tool-time.
it is a good idea though, how heroes takes the archetypal hero characters from xmen comics and applies the lost formula, ie, 2 asian characters, single mom with kid, single dad with kid, cop, dangerous alluring woman, flaky drug abusing artist, token minority that has a gun, malevolent evil guy without a real name, that kind of thing. i expect shows like greys anatomy and desperate housewives to pull out the 12+ character ensemble soon enough. - skellener, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Fourteen producers on one TV show? Really? Count 'em next time "Heroes" airs. Ridiculous!
- anbronty, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0check out the hidden page of the hanso foundation website: http://www.thehansofoundation.org/adkahdskja2897429834ahjkncawuye32782374/hanso_noshutdown.swf Look at the Active projects page and then Institute for Genomic Advancement. Some of the other active projects could they be coincidental with some of the heroes? It is fun to speculate and see common elements. One other comment on the Hanso website: The Hanso Foundation stands at the vanguard of social and sceintific research for the advancement of the human race.
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