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- MrDoug, on 11/14/2009, -11/+107Before they ***** it up with Ewoks...
- Lunarparcel, on 11/14/2009, -1/+64I always loved it when Spock would say, "May the Force be with you."
(I couldn't even type that with a straight face.) - WoundedCow, on 11/14/2009, -4/+45Easy...breath deep..don't get too excited...more original Star Trek????? Yippeeeeeee!!!!!!!
- TallestSkil, on 11/14/2009, -1/+34This... is... a good day... in... fandom... history!
- benroy, on 11/14/2009, -2/+33For the love of god, I hope you're kidding.
- TVarmy, on 11/14/2009, -2/+29I THINK WORF WAS THE BEST CAPTAIN!
- AmusedToDeath, on 11/14/2009, -1/+27I think you guys might be onto something here. Imagine a well done Star Wars/Star Trek mash-up. Vulcan Jedi wielding lightsabers. Captain Kirk stealing an Empire starship. A Borg Sith lord. Chewy and Han getting in a bar fight with Starfleet cadets. Endless possibilities. Sounds like more fun than either the new Star Trek or the Star Wars prequels.
- rand21althor, on 11/14/2009, -0/+24So Takei originally played the "Ship's Physicist". Interesting.
- psion01, on 11/14/2009, -0/+24This isn't good, people. Not good at all. I've seen all of the original Trek, and THIS isn't part of it. The only explanation is that someone is tapping alternate, parallel realities-- bringing other versions of Star Trek across the void between existences. Eventually the whole fabric of all realities will unravel if this keeps up. And it must be stopped. NOW.
Or at least as soon as we have the full third season that Gene Roddenberry produced. - ssquared22, on 11/13/2009, -3/+24Great find, funny that NBC found something too cerebral considering how they fare these days.
- mtdna, on 11/14/2009, -2/+22Fap, fap, fap...
- KentuckyBoy2, on 11/14/2009, -0/+15AS a kid in the 70s my dad had an 8 track tape of Gene being interviewed about Star Trek. Gene said that there was an earlier version of Star Trek than this pilot being released. He said that the very first pilot did not have Spock. It had an android that was completely anatomically correct but lacked emotions and had a female em-path as a counselor. He mentioned that the network was a little worried about the android trying to discover emotions and they were afraid of it trying to develop it's sexuality. The network also said that the idea of a female counselor was to fantastic to be believed. They ordered the original pilot destroyed and the Pike episode was then shot to replace it.
I was a kid when I heard this last so there may be some minor problems with my account but this is how I remember it. I know I was surprised when TNG came on and they had the android and the counselor. I thought, man he finally got to make it the way he wanted. - chessthecat, on 11/14/2009, -4/+18For the love of all that is holy I hope *you're* kidding.
- rand21althor, on 11/14/2009, -0/+13Not the pilot in question here.
- shadowman99, on 11/14/2009, -0/+13This was been available for years as a bootleg videotape at conventions. I saw this cut back in the early 90's, so it's just hype that this was recently found. My ass. Perhaps they found a nice copy to base a master from, but anything else is a stretch.
It's different from the aired version of "Where no man has gone before" in a few key ways. The TV version had some tighter editing and pacing, there were title cards for Act One, Act Two, etc, and the most noticeable was the Star Trek title sequence and voice over were completely different. - spworm, on 11/14/2009, -2/+14Oh dear. It seems I have just had an orgasm.
How illogical. - spworm, on 11/14/2009, -1/+13And they say trolls aren't funny. :)
- TobiasParker, on 11/14/2009, -0/+10Apparently 3...
- LimboTheLaw, on 11/14/2009, -0/+10So weird to see him in a blue shirt!
- Chairboy, on 11/14/2009, -1/+11I suspect you didn't actually read the article...
You'll fit in quite well here. Welcome to Digg! - vspazv, on 11/14/2009, -0/+10How about using a more accurate title such as "Never-before-aired"
- zephc, on 11/14/2009, -0/+8This isn't The Cage, as was mentioned elsewhere.
- BasalCellBossk, on 11/14/2009, -0/+7Where No Man Has Gone Before is not new - in fact it has been shown as part of the original Trek series way back into the 70s, when I first saw it. The deal here is that this is an earlier edit of that pilot with new material and scenes that did not appear in the final version - some of them making significant departures from the 'lore' of the show.
- bubba9999, on 11/14/2009, -0/+7you are half-human after all.
- KentuckyBoy2, on 11/14/2009, -0/+7I did not get my dates wrong. This was pre-Shatner and pre Spock character. I have been doing some research and the album is called Inside Star Trek. It was recorded in 1976 and was an interview between Shatner and Gene. It is still available as part of a two CD set and on iTunes. I am downloading it now. It will be good to hear it again after all these years. If I am wrong about it and the thread has not gone dead I will post an update on what he said about it.
- Bookant, on 11/14/2009, -0/+6Kirk would've read the article first.
- TheWriteGuy, on 11/14/2009, -0/+6Geez, how many "pilots" were produced for Star Trek? (Seriously, I thought "The Cage" was the only one.)
- bluddystool, on 11/14/2009, -4/+10Fascinating is a word I use for the unexpected. In this case, I should think "interesting" would suffice.
- Sloi, on 11/14/2009, -1/+7A Flowchart to Determine If You Should Fap To It
http://digg.com/d319qug - Megadeth222, on 11/14/2009, -0/+6My favorite scene is when Kirk and Spock throw the ring into the lava and kill that big red eye thing.
- BasalCellBossk, on 11/14/2009, -1/+6You need to read 'the making of Star Trek' which was the first behind the scenes book on the show ever produced, right in the late sixties. This has all the info on these early script passes, and it goes into great detail about the early development of the show, the characters, the ships and the props. It mentions nothing of a filmed version of the show you describe, and it is considered to be the most accurate of the behind the scenes books, because it was written by the producers of the show.
The version you refer to was never filmed, the elements you describe were merely early script ideas that never made it past early production meetings. The earliest pilot filmed was The Cage, and the network rejected it, causing retooling into the Trek we know. There was no earlier pilot.
Filming television shows, even back then, cost hundreds of thousands of dollars, and they did not just burn up prints. You are either mis-remembering what Roddenberry said, or he was telling a tall tale - something which he was known to do, by the way.
The android idea *is* a Roddenberry concept. Not only did he re-use it for TNG, but he filmed a show IIRC in the 70s called Questor or The Questor Tapes which involved an android character. Interestingly, I think Nimoy was slated to play the main character, but didn't do it for some reason. I forget if they did a season or just a pilot, either way it was not picked up/cancelled. - Lunarparcel, on 11/14/2009, -0/+5While I don't remember having seen most of the clips that were in the video, I do remember clearly having seen Gary Mitchells glowing eyes that came with his god-like telekinetic powers. I saw that on the early syndication runs years ago.
Something smells fishy about how this whole "never been seen before" thing is being thrown around. - BasalCellBossk, on 11/14/2009, -0/+5Yes, but this is an *alternate version*
- Denominator88, on 11/14/2009, -0/+5I can't even find the words to express how awesome this is! I love the original series, never thought I'd see something like this!
- BasalCellBossk, on 11/14/2009, -0/+5I got your back.
- NinjaBear, on 11/14/2009, -0/+5Nerd-gasm!
- bluddystool, on 11/14/2009, -0/+5Apparently two people didn't recognize the Spock quote...or didn't care. Probably the latter.
- lamiaconfitor, on 11/14/2009, -0/+4Yeah, but apparently, "Physicist" was a term the TV station didnt want to explain to the audience. Sad.
- Mawds, on 11/14/2009, -0/+4Engineering Munchkins FTL
- lamiaconfitor, on 11/14/2009, -1/+5SISKO, BITCH!
- pLuhhmm, on 11/14/2009, -3/+6INB4StarTrekArguments!
- SirLowKey, on 11/14/2009, -0/+3Should the title not be: "Never before seen Star Trek helmsman found"?
- vinetari, on 11/14/2009, -0/+3This reminds me of the time that Odo and captain Kirk were having a holo deck exploration on Riza 7 when Quark served Data one to many Romulan ales!
- beaker37, on 11/14/2009, -1/+4Look, this is the same episode ("Where no man has gone before") that you can see on TV on reruns. The only difference is that the newly-found version is the "director's cut" -- it has an extra five minutes of footage that hasn't been seen before. That's all that's really new about this episode.
- rand21althor, on 11/14/2009, -0/+2That deserves a facepalm.
- cosworth99, on 11/14/2009, -1/+3The turbolift scene with Gary Lockwood, Bill and Nimoy seems oddly like the rebooted movie. More aloof, more..wait - less. Less nerdy.
- mareksoon, on 11/14/2009, -1/+3Did you hear that? Millions of geeks, simultaneously, across the entire planet, just had their first orgasm.
(myself included) - lamiaconfitor, on 11/14/2009, -0/+2He is a troll...
- odkin, on 11/14/2009, -0/+2It wouldn't be a stretch to think of Majel's "Number One" from the original pilot "The Cage" as being an android. Watch the original pilot "The Cage". Clearly Number One was supposed to be the cold logical one and Spock was supposed to be an emotional devilish looking character, hence the original red skin concept. When the network forced Majel out because they didn't want a female command character, Spock morphed into the logical one.
The chronology is 1965, "The Cage" - with Jeffrey Hunter as Captin and Majel Barret as "Number One". When that pilot was rejected, they were asked to make a new one, which was unheard of, They fired Majel and recast the Captain as Shatner. This "newly discoverd version" is the network sales presentation pilot. It was later redone to form the televised "Where No Man has Gone Before" episode we are all familiar with. - Kronos6948, on 11/14/2009, -0/+2Data's character was inspired from two previous sources. First was a movie created for television by Gene Roddenberry and Gene Coon during the 1970s, entitled The Questor Tapes. It featured Robert Foxworth as the title character (as well as Majel Barrett and Walter Koenig) and was intended as the pilot for a series which would have detailed the adventures of an android with a childlike personality. In the movie, Questor was to have experimented with sexuality, making love to a female character. Network censors did not allow this scene to be used in the film, but a decade later, more relaxed standards allowed an "intimate relationship" to occur between Data and Natasha Yar in "The Naked Now". Data's assurance that he is a "fully functional" human male is a quote from the telemovie. A scene from "The Royale" wherein Data repairs loaded dice is also from The Questor Tapes. The second source was the aborted 1978 series, Star Trek II, where Data's desire to understand humans and their emotions corresponded to that of the Vulcan character Xon. (Trek: The Next Generation Crew Book)
Seems that BasalCellBossk has the earliest android accounts correct.
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http://memory-alpha.org/en/wiki/Data -
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