What is Digg?Warning: The Content in this Article May be Inaccurate
Readers have reported that this story contains information that may not be accurate.449 Comments
- alapoet, on 06/23/2008, -45/+378Fox is to real broadcast journalism what the National Enquirer is to a real newspaper.
- Smooooth, on 06/24/2008, -14/+303I understand what he means. You don't know what you got until its gone. His love for America wasn't real until he knew what it was like to be deprived of the inherent freedoms. I think we can all agree that sometimes we too take some of our freedoms for granted.
- ohnoerino, on 06/23/2008, -30/+311Three words: Terrorist Fist Jab
- Hellman109, on 06/24/2008, -4/+210I hate McCain but I agree completly that what he said is perfectly OK to say. He didnt know how good he had it until he lost it.
Thats a pretty normal thing for allot of people... - AtomicSpike, on 06/23/2008, -31/+173Luckily, Fox News can actually get away with this since they don't have to worry about upholding any sense of integrity. They never had any to begin with.
- tcbishop12, on 06/23/2008, -39/+137Of course Fox redacted the comments. How else can a "smoke and mirrors" rightwing advocacy bureau operate?
- pintomp3, on 06/24/2008, -13/+80"You don't know what you got until its gone" like habeas corpus?
- B08ama, on 06/24/2008, -6/+59The common concept of nationalism is really stupid. I wish that people would realize that the ones who have a "perfect" record on country perception are the ones to avoid, and that converting experiences such as the ones that Michelle Obama and John McCain have had make them more United States-loving in the present.
- Hayburner, on 06/24/2008, -15/+62Can we please keep these ridiculously biased political stories in the Politics category? I block them in my profile for a reason.
- thescimitar, on 06/24/2008, -2/+49It's unfortunate, but Senator McCain is going to fall prey to the same tactics that the democrats have fallen to the last decade or so. It's particularly disappointing because I like Senator McCain (I realize this is a terrible thing to say on digg) and respect him, though I am severely distressed at some of the things he's said to get elected. There was nothing more poignant than him calling Falwell et al "agents of intolerance". To renege on his personal statements is very disappointing.
Though no one can doubt that he was genuinely a war hero and sacrificed a great deal for his country. Similarly, I don't think Senator Obama should have to endure to obvious partisan nonsense that he must from the conservative media. Is anyone so stupid to think that Senator McCain hated his country before he was a POW, or that Michelle Obama hated the country until this point in her life?
There are plenty of things I don't like about the United States, but for goodness sake, let's have a little common sense. I disagree with McCain on many issues, just as I disagree with Obama on many issues. I'd much rather hear about policy discrepancies than "ZOMG AMERICA-HATING TERRORIST LIBERAL REPUG OLD COOT MADRASSAS MONKEY FART!"
Sometimes I worry about what their market research tells them. Obviously if it wasn't accurate, they wouldn't be so popular. But I really am much more optimistic about my countrymen than the media would have me belief of them. - raybury, on 06/24/2008, -8/+54I wish we could talk about that statement as adults. Hell, let me try: I never really loved America until I traveled overseas. Huh, so I hated America? Nope. Well, at least I just said I used to not love America, right? Well, no: I employed hyperbole, an exaggeration or overstatement to emphasize a point. In seeing what life is like in other countries, I greatly increased my love for my home. So too did John McCain -- who after all had voluntarily joined the military -- increase his appreciation for America and the freedom we have here when as a P.O.W. he was denied all freedom and the opportunity to return. Hyperbole, kids: It's not just for the Bible anymore!
- Herv3, on 06/24/2008, -5/+49You're right, but the point is how Fox will take something from Obama's side or camp and run wild with it, but if McCain says something that can be misconstrued or sounds bad out of context and Fox will censor it instead and pretend it never happened. I have no problem with what McCain. The problem I have is with the double standard.
- smt12, on 06/24/2008, -13/+57Did they really have to run the clip of him saying it 4+ times? You know, just in case we maybe weren't sure what he said?
- orthodoxDrew, on 06/24/2008, -13/+56...such as Michelle Obama
- thescimitar, on 06/24/2008, -2/+37That had to be the funniest thing I've seen in a long while. Where do their producers even come up with this stuff?
Terrorist fist jab? Really? - blackinthmiddle, on 06/24/2008, -4/+39You've clearly missed the point. The problem is that a consistent standard is not being applied. You can't slam Michelle, then completely erase what McCain said. I think we all agree with you. Neither McCain nor Michelle hate their country and that's obvious. However, do you *really* think Fox News would have gone to the extraordinary step of editing what Michelle stated to make her look better?
Hell, we don't even have to speculate. Look at how they slammed Michelle over and over and over (and over) again regarding her comments. If not for watchdogs like foxattacks, would we even *know* that McCain essentially echoed the same sentiments? - pintomp3, on 06/24/2008, -8/+39that's ok. he wears a flag lapel pin.
- gofarhaveacigar, on 06/24/2008, -5/+33I don't think the problem is with what McCain said, or the fact that it can be taken out of context. It's the fact that Fox would edit out something like this in order to protect McCain, but make a field day and a half out of a similar comment made by Obama's wife.
- orion846, on 06/24/2008, -3/+31his remark isn't bad, the hilariousness comes from republicans and fox launching attacks on the wife of a candidate for a remark, but then sweeping a very similar remark by their actual candidate under the rug.
- pintomp3, on 06/24/2008, -3/+30Two words: Terrorist Scarf.
- jdenzer, on 06/24/2008, -2/+27"Who cares if SHE loves America or not? Let's focus on real issues."
Can the right-wingers apply this to Michelle Obama's comment? - nblsavage, on 06/24/2008, -5/+30pointing out hypocrisy is not being hypocritical.
- synaesthesia, on 06/24/2008, -3/+27Wait, what?
- UsedToVacation, on 06/24/2008, -7/+28Yeah, Fox is wrong for doing this.
But is saying "I really didn't love America until I was deprived of its company" going to hurt McCain? I'm sure it'd hurt Obama, but this dudes the war vet, guys. - inactive, on 06/24/2008, -11/+27bah this is all stupid, I don't really "love America" either.. it has a douche bag government. HOWEVER, I like it a lot more than other countries and am glad I live here. I would not die for America, sorry.
This does not mean that I support harm towards America or it's people. - Julik, on 06/24/2008, -10/+25Obama's website cut out, from a transcript of his memorial day speech, the part about seeing dead people... I did not see that make front page news on Digg.
- Depravo, on 06/24/2008, -2/+17He was only paraphrasing an excerpt from William Wordsworth's 1799 poem Lucy Gray.
"I travell’d among unknown men
In lands beyond the sea;
Nor, England! did I know till then
What love I bore to thee." - JoeVet, on 06/24/2008, -2/+17As a career Army office I get really tired of you ignorant hicks who try to tell other Americans what it is to be patriotic. It usually comes from those who have never served or did the minimum and got out. Well sonny, patriotism does not mean killing in your country's name. It means standing up for what is right and honorable in your country's name and you don't have to go war to have it. It takes much more courage to stand against an unjust government than to face an enemy in combat.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -3/+16What's the big deal, he said he didn't really love America until he was in that situation.
Anyone who had to leave their country, family and friends know that feeling. I'm Portuguese and I left my country to live in Switzerland and I tell you, I never gave a ***** about being proud of loving my country until I was thousands of kilometers away from it.
There's an old saying that says that you only realize how much you love someone/something until you miss it.
I think that's what McCain was trying to say, he was being held captive and only then he truly missed her country, but you people take every word and everything literally.
Maybe that's why Fox cut it out, because people seem to overreact over every little thing. - ProjectGSX, on 06/24/2008, -4/+17Exactly, I think that is the whole point. Both of these statements are acceptable if you really think about what they meant and not just pick out the words that suit your purpose. The Michelle Obama quote isnt a big deal and neither is this McCain quote. But if the Obama quote is going to be used to attack their campaign, then this McCain quote needs to be given the same attention... and then Fox edits it out of the interview.
- kevincannon, on 06/24/2008, -2/+14Yea, that's shocking. It's not even like he said anything bad.
It's pretty bad that a site dedicated to attacking fox news, is actually using their tactics to push their own agenda, which clearly isn't fair or balanced either. - gweedo767, on 06/24/2008, -8/+20The is the whole point of this thing. The right wing is blowing what Michelle Obama said out of proportion, but McCain made a statement that could easily be just as misinterpreted.
- Metellus, on 06/24/2008, -3/+14That's right, we attack Fox, not McCain. Nobody said there was anything wrong with what McCain said. The problem is that Fox attacked Michelle and tried to hide the fact that McCain said the SAME thing.
- IMJGaltstill, on 06/24/2008, -4/+15But Huffington Post, Rawstory now those are legitimate journalistic organizations.
- BobOki, on 06/24/2008, -2/+13The real issues, like hypocrisy in a candidate?
- subliminalurge, on 06/24/2008, -1/+12"I disagree with McCain on many issues, just as I disagree with Obama on many issues."
Careful buddy. This sounds suspiciously like you might be engaging in the crime known as "independent thought".
This isn't your grandpa's USA anymore. The way to be a "good American" in this day and age is to blindly accept, and parrot back, every damn thing you're told. - psg188, on 06/24/2008, -4/+14So they censored something that wasn't even harmful to him in the first place, what he said was perfectly fine, Fox is just antsy and feels they have to be biased in someway, but this is just unneeded.
I suppose better to be retarded when it doesn't matter then retarded when it can help ruin the country. - shark72, on 06/24/2008, -0/+9Nope. It's no smear job against McCain. I think everybody reading this -- including the folks at the linked web site -- have no grudge against McCain for his statement. I sure won't be voting for him, but his statement was poignant and honest.
The point is that Fox has been milking Michelle "baby mama" Obama's "I've never been proud of my country until now" statement to death. Thus, it's horrendously inconvenient for them when their main guy McCain makes a similar statement.
Thus, they edited it out. - tweak567, on 06/24/2008, -2/+11Its not necessarily what they report. Instead, it's what they don't report and how they report what they do.
There is no question that a great many things said on Fox news contain little to no truth. That said a comparison to the National Enquirer isn't that far off. - poopdigger, on 06/24/2008, -1/+10Defending your country can involve things other than being a soldier, you know
- Defuser, on 06/24/2008, -4/+12This kind of nonsense is hateful and stupid when the Right pulls it on Obama, and it's hateful and stupid when the Left pulls it on McCain. Seriously people, get past the idea that reprehensible actions becomes "ok" as long as the other side did them first. This is pretty much EXACTLY the same thing as the Right Wing bitching about Michelle Obama's "I'm proud of my country for the first time in my adult life" statement. We all know what both she and McCain actually meant.
...now, if the point is that Fox News is run by partisan morons, then great, I agree. But only an idiot would find fault with McCain's words. Or Michelle Obama's. - moonlessrat, on 06/24/2008, -3/+11Personally I think attacking and focusing on the wives is a really, really lame ass tactic. Next step is bringing up the antics of their children in kindergarten "while little johnny was colouring in the flag today he kept going outside of the lines!!" shock horror!
I understand that people in their position open themselves up for public scrutiny, but this obsession is both petty, generally irrelevant, and far too easy to over interpret and manipulate. No relationship is perfect and NONE would stand up to intense scrutiny. Probably better to concentrate on the candidates don't you think? - switzorn, on 06/24/2008, -1/+9Why does the fact that he didn't like America at first such a huge issue? He does now. Thats like harassing a born again christian for not always believing in christianity.
- inactive, on 06/24/2008, -1/+9The point was the erasure, not what he said. The is nothing wrong with what he said, and I don't think anyone is trying to make the point that there is. The problem is that they erased him making an almost identical statement to the one that they relentlessly attack Michelle Obama for. Neither Obama nor McCain deserve to be attacked for these statements. Such attacks are trite and meaningless, and do nothing to promote productive dialog among the candidates or the citizenry. What's especially of concern is the different manners in which such comments are treated by Fox depending on who they came from.
btw...I just noticed that "McCain" makes it through the Digg spellcheck, but "Obama" doesn't. BIAS I TELL YOU ;) - itanshi, on 06/24/2008, -2/+10i agree, but i believe it is more about the redaction than it is about the name calling.
- paradexes, on 06/24/2008, -2/+10FOX is setting a horrible trend here. The worry is that they are starting to indoctrinate the extreme right wing (the ignorant who watch FOX and trust it as a source of news) into thinking that all Democrats or Liberals are Terrorists. This is disturbing because in the future it will setup a justification for people to act like thugs toward people who dont think like them. I have basically boycotted the channel and it's advertisers. This is my small contribution towards changing the agenda. Hopefully other "liberal activist loudmouths" will stop talking and actually doing something smart for a change. Start campaigns to boycott anyone who advertises on FOX networks. This includes car manufacturers, stores, anything that is advertised on the channel. it is easy to get the lists via google without having to watch the channel. Once companies realize why profits are down, they will start pulling ads. When they do that FOX news realizes we ***** up and we are suffering for it (millions in revenue lost because of pulled advertisers) and they will start to see that the people hold the power. Right now we are just being loud....no action, all they have to do is ignore us. SO actually do something instead of talking a mean game.
- evilesttoast, on 06/24/2008, -2/+10the grammar in this is killing me
- jefuchs, on 06/24/2008, -1/+9It's not about what he was trying to say. It's about how the media distorts the same gaff when one side says it, but then covers up when their own guy does it.
We all know he loved America before he went to war. It's not about his comment. It's about the media coverage of it. - hcl40u, on 06/24/2008, -0/+8This sort of back and forth feuding is 99% pure politics and %1 actual substance. I just hope not many people decide to vote based on such nonsense.
- blinkatron, on 06/24/2008, -1/+9Advisor: "Mr. President, this law violates a citizen's right to habeas corpus."
Bush: "Whatever, I don't like Frenchy stuff anyway."
Advisor: "Sir, it's a latin saying."
Bush: "Same thing." -
Show 51 - 100 of 452 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is