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- Jolinar, on 01/12/2009, -1/+23TV.com had a pretty loyal membership previous to the CBS takeover. I have no idea where they are getting this "clunky site" crap from. The members loved the look of tv.com. It was original and nice. However, over 85% of users expressed outrage at the generic, bland and even some say blinding new redesign. Not many members at all are even content with it. The staff there says that they are listening to all of the feedback and give the people what they want, but then they will have 2 out of 100 comments be positive and just go off of those, not the negative 98.
CBS is not trying to compete with hulu, it is trying to be hulu. Stupid move especially if you already have a site with a happy membership. It's web traffic has only gone down over 20% since their idiotic redesign. It's not really considered success when you buy a site and the first redesign you do you get many loyal members leaving, is it? I realize websites do redesigns to move forward, but most of the members agree that it is a step backwards and in the process loses all sense of individualism. CBS just needs to stick with what works with tv.com so it can keep those members and then introduce the videos alongside it so you also get new members too, not this crappy 'screw everyone who was here before, let's be hulu' mentality. - DanielThePoet, on 01/12/2009, -1/+22This is funny. REALLY FUNNY. CBS has the absolute most pathetic excuse for online video among the big networks. You can only watch clips of episodes. A year ago, it was their video player that was the worst, unreliable POS around. Now they have a good player and no full episode content worth discussing. Way to go, CBS! The champion of Web suck.
- ileftfark, on 01/12/2009, -1/+17Oh ***** - PBS? Could you imagine streaming full episodes of "3-2-1 Contact", "Square One", "Reading Rainbow", "Ghostwriter", "Slim Goodbody", etc? The future is going to be awesome.
- RJ0534, on 01/13/2009, -0/+15tv.com is embedding hulu videos on their site:
http://www.tv.com/video/dJUgwmlmduRd9BL1hD3JWFX9vK ... - Hodor, on 01/12/2009, -1/+13please figure something out so we can watch TV shows online outside of the USA.
- scom, on 01/13/2009, -0/+11SWEET - another video site that won't be available in Canada! YES!
- yocouchdigga, on 01/12/2009, -0/+11Ghostwriter is/was kickass! I resent your comment.
- TealcandDanielJ, on 01/12/2009, -1/+11The way that article talks about it all is ridiculous. They basically say "TV.com was a nothing site that was like a crappy imdb-wannabe with a desirable domain name, till the brilliant CBS bought it, and now they're making it into the place to be! It's exciting, because we think we can get lots more money." No one really cares about anyone who used to be on TV.com before it became Hulu 2.0, do they? And they called the old TV.com "clunky". Yes, because having any color other than white and buttons that are any bigger than ultra-thin text on a borderless white backdrop is definitely just clunky. *rolls eyes*
And really, as Jolinar said, if you want to compete with a site, keep your original look. Don't ditch what originality your site has to go to a carbon copy of the site you're competing with.
They also say in the article: "In the past, it's been a place to get information," Mr. Soohoo said. "If we add more video content to the site, we believe it can drive more community."
What the hell? So... TV.com, a site where the guides are full of information submitted by users and users even gain the level to manage the guide and submissions for a show themselves, a site with a large community constantly buzzing away through millions of posts on the forums... was all just about the guides until CBS took over? The forums and community wasn't already its strong point? Screw you, article people.
And the kind of people who just want to grab a view at the latest episode of Dexter or some old Bewitched episode are NOT the kind of people who are going to see on some flash thing that there are sentence-long comments from users who actually use that ridiculous new feature, decide they really want to share their thoughts with a community they don't know, create an account, and comment, and eventually become a real part of the community. The site is going to fail, the community will grow at exponentially smaller numbers until it begins to just shrink, and with no one who cares about anything more than popping on to it to watch a video, the guides will become total crap. Sites based entirely around videos DO NOT have communities, as that article even states. YouTube has comments, not community, and that's exactly what CBS has done with the stupid IM-style posting from the front page. They're Hulu-Tube. - kevbryant, on 01/13/2009, -0/+9NOBODY WATCHES 'CLIPS'
- MrMongoose, on 01/13/2009, -0/+8I remember when TV Tome got bought out by TV.com. Can I just have a fast site with archives of episode names and numbers please? That's all I use the damn thing for.
- jmnormand, on 01/13/2009, -0/+7they do have some full episodes but the format of cbs.com is so horrendous that its painful to find them. hulu has a huge lead in the ui and content...
- hulkamaniaz, on 01/13/2009, -0/+5right there with ya :(
- onionoino, on 01/13/2009, -0/+5 I`m sitting here in canada feeling left out
- terracottapai, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4I won some ***** from a local kids radio station once that was a Ghostwriter prize pack.
All I remember of it was a pen with a lanyard (not magical) and a coffee mug that had the Ghostwriter logo on the outside that would only show up when you put hot liquid inside.
Kinda neat, I guess.
Good show though. - dse78759, on 01/12/2009, -0/+4Waitaminute. I thought joost.com was CBS' answer to hulu. How is this different?
- ffhc2000, on 01/13/2009, -0/+4TV Tome....oh the memories.
- Kruez, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3Hulu was sweet when they had almost the entire "It's Always Sunny In Philadelphia" series online, now they're just like every other street hooker that I won't touch.
- Soonago, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3Blame FX, the content holder. Jesus, have some perspective.
- inactive, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3I hate CBS. Most people don't know about this, but gamespot was actually starting to rebound. They were going in a positive, post-Jeff world. Their new sports podcast, From The Bleachers, was the ***** best ***** on the internet, better than the bombcast. Then CBS buys CNet and fires pretty much half of the site's staff. The whole sports department is shut down, the community managers are gone, and the whole site is in a form of disarray again. And let's not even talk about Viacom and youtube. CBS can shove it right up their ass.
- w1010, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3Holy *****! Old Star Trek episodes!
- yocouchdigga, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3the twinge of sarcasm had me thinking you were hating on Ghostwriter... couldn't leave that to chance.
- Bran70n, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3The first video I previewed showed the Hulu logo, so I proceeded to go to Hulu and watch it there. XD
Only thing good about that site is the domain... - Joest23, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3Oh, that's great. They're trying to be like hulu so much that they're actually BECOMING hulu! Oh, CBS. I used to love you, but now... All you show is CSI and crap. You canceled my favorite show ever (Jericho) and you replaced it with *****. You tore up a brilliant website with a booming community and you replaced it with a terrible knockoff of an idea that ripped off my multiple other ideas before it. Thank you, CBS. The three other networks have completely and utterly surpassed you in every way, in my eyes.
- Guspaz, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3Let's not forget that some of us were none to thrilled when the original site, tvtome, was bought out and turned into tv.com; much data was deleted during the takeover. Still, I've been a user of tv.com/tvtome for many years, and find the site extremely useful.
- ileftfark, on 01/13/2009, -0/+3I understand your point, as you I am simply a stranger on the Internet. But now that we have met, I assure you, kind sir, I do not mince words when it comes to Ghostwriter.
- Soonago, on 01/14/2009, -0/+2I didn't tell you not to go. I told you who to blame.
- inactive, on 01/13/2009, -2/+4They have HIMYM and that's pretty much it.
- BrettFromTibet, on 01/13/2009, -1/+3Wow... TV.com is an impressively valuable / good domain name.
- kyravon, on 01/14/2009, -0/+2I liked the old TV.COM design MUCH MUCH better. I rarely use it anymore since CBS changed the design for more picture, videos & blogs.
I actually used the site for CONTENT. Silly old me. - inactive, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2not as good as impressively-valuable-good-domain-name.com
- Ericdigital, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2I've never used tv.com before and the first show i clicked on, was in a smaller window than what say hulu gives you. Not only that it let me know that what I was watching was being presented by hulu. /shrug
- randomchar, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2tvrage.com ftw!
- CaptOblivious, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2You might want to actually go to tv.com & observe the amazing suck for yourself before you kiss off Hulu,
Not an episode to be seen, nope not one.
Of. Any. Show.
Is there a point to that site? Not that I can find. - TealcandDanielJ, on 01/12/2009, -0/+2It's not about the numbers, it's about the closeness. Would your average YouTube "friend" drive two states away to take you to the doctor's? Probably not, but on TV.com, some of us are close enough to do that and more. When I said "community" I meant more "people who are emotionally close and care about each other" then "large number of people droving by the thousands". Let's face it, it's pretty much impossible to actually be extremely close with and care for thousands of people individually. I know on some forums on TV.com, there are groups of a half-dozen to a dozen people who all went to one of theirs wedding, another forum with regular users who meet up every now and then and are even planning a big get-together this summer that will bring a close group of friends together from several U.S. states, Australia, and possibly other countries. When I go to YouTube, sorry, but I don't feel like I'm a part of anything special.
Also, I thought cnet made TV.com from TVtome? I never heard mention of TVgrid. - ileftfark, on 01/12/2009, -1/+3You seem confused.
- eblues200, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2I hear ya, while I know there are ways to stream Hulu in Canada, still sucks that none of our networks up here even try and do anything or work on licensing deals with Hulu/TV.com/whomever. CTV bought a frigging media empire, CHUM, and the Olympics, they can't afford to work out a deal with Hulu or TV.com?
Yeah, I can watch whatever CTV and Global have on their primetime lineups anytime on their websites. It's not that they have anything to write home about - the only real exception being 24 on Global.
This will become another useless site to me. Now, does anybody have an U.S. postal address I can borrow for some DirecTV? :) - CapeKid, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2No annoying flash intro.
- gimmeacookie, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2they do this in light of having already tried with something called innertube. The interface and execution was horrible and personally I think it was a massive failure as it never got the attention and popularity as Hulu or NBC or even ABC, which really upped the game by offering full HD streaming.
Only problem is the times I want to catch up on shows is when I'm out of the country, and they geolimit entry from outside contries so a lot of the time you can't use the services when you want it most. But still the best solutions are those that lie in the gray area of the law - sites like http://www.surfthechannel.com and http://www.freetube.us.tc that stream stuff regardless of country. - bossgalaga, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2SQUARE ONE!
That show was awesome. - motang, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2Thank god we have http://thetvdb.com
- diemunkiesdie, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2tvrage.com I moved there after the demise of TvTome. I hate TV.com, too much web design with too little content. Plus it's a pain in the ass to navigate. TVRage, on the other hand, kicks ass!
- etruscan, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2TV.com used to be good, but they've somehow ruined it. Try adding or removing a show from your favorites list, for example... it just doesn't work any more.
...also, they currently use Hulu content - so I'm not sure what the article is talking about. - eShinn, on 01/13/2009, -0/+2Don't care who they say they're competing with. The frame-rate is terrible. Was like watching a clay-mation version of My Name is Earl.
- YME1280, on 01/12/2009, -1/+3This can join the other great stories of corporate warfare: Hustler Vs. Playboy, GM Vs. Ford and Band Aids Vs. Adhesive Strips.
- inactive, on 01/13/2009, -0/+1:) i meant what i said.
- punkcat, on 01/13/2009, -0/+1no movies too
- kyravon, on 01/14/2009, -0/+1I dont' remember TVTOME, but I do remember when TV.COM didn't suck!
I too used it mostly only for reference purposes. Episode guides. Show summaries. Trivia, etc.
I'll have to check out this TVRAGE site now.... - JamesBond, on 01/15/2009, -0/+1Hulu > TV.com 'nuff said...
- sumeetg, on 01/14/2009, -0/+1http://www.hotspotshield.com/
- MrMongoose, on 01/13/2009, -0/+1http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wallah
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/voila -
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