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- angusm, on 06/13/2008, -19/+109I've always disliked Star Trek precisely because of some of the characteristics that the author mentions: the society from which Kirk and friends come is portrayed a kind of poorly-defined candy-coated utopia, which is just dumped in our laps 'as is'. There's no reflection on how such a society could come about, or what compromises it involves. Even George Lucas's hokey take on realpolitik from Star Wars seems more thoughtful than the Star Trek milieu (good going: two sentences in and I've earned the wrath of both the Star Trek and the Star Wars fans: this comment is going to get buried so deep it'll come out in China). There's also the question of the acting: I've never seen any acting in Star Trek that was less than dreadful, whereas the cast of BSG turn in some capable performances (Olmos's "clench my jaw and frown" style doesn't do it for me, but Tricia Helfer - who you might assume was merely there as eye-candy - copes beautifully with a very complex part: she deserves some recognition as a talented actress). So BSG gets my vote.
I've always believed that Star Trek was a kind of index of American attitudes. The original Star Trek reflected the American outlook of its time with its message of "We're strong because we're good, and we're good because we're strong". Clinton-era ST:TNG was all about feeling people's pain. If that's true, and if BSG is Star Trek for today, that ought to tell us something interesting about the way we think now. Except that BSG is all about gray areas and uncertainties with no easy answers and the mess we're in now is due in large part to people pretending that everything is black-and-white and that we can find simple answers to tough problems. Maybe we'd be better off if BSG really did reflect the way we think. - fluidfoundation, on 06/13/2008, -5/+86Bears. Beets. Battlestar Galactica.
- Caffro, on 06/14/2008, -13/+83BSG all the way
- SuperJimmyJimbo, on 06/14/2008, -9/+70Capt'n Jean Luc Picard of the U S S Enterprise.....
- combatgoose, on 06/14/2008, -4/+63I really wish more people watched Battlestar.
It really is one of the best shows on TV. There are deep messages within this show, and it really is a drama set in space.
It's a shame people hear the name "Battlestar Galactica" and instantly think of some geeky show only 'nerds' would like. - InvisibleInk, on 06/13/2008, -17/+71The Enterprise would vaporize the Cylons's entire fleet of base ships and resurrection ships with a barrage of old school photon torpedoes, but before that Kirk would ***** Six six times before spacing her.
- Tulle, on 06/14/2008, -3/+48I've asked this question to myself many times before, and I have concluded the following: I enjoy watching BSG more, but they do not fit in the same exact category. They are both sci-fi, but BSG is really condensed and intense, while startrek just has you floating around space with new random adventures (I know there are exceptions and a story line, but I think you get my point). In BSG if you get a filler episode you feel cheated, in startrek that's to be expected.
Still, I love both shows. - fakkedap, on 06/14/2008, -0/+39There are FOUR lights!
- Jimgress, on 06/14/2008, -3/+39yeah I love both, but the two couldn't be any more different.
I like bsg more because I love a good blend of drama with my space battles. ESPECIALLY with multi-faceted characters.
Also production is incredible. Bear McCreary is a genius at composing, the visuals manage to actually rival those of 100 million movie blockbusters, AND the acting is brilliant. You'd be hard pressed to find many shows that can fulfill such awesome. (that last longer than firefly did. yeah i went there) - wynja, on 06/13/2008, -23/+57Nothing can replace Star Trek as the father of all TV sci-fi. BSG is good, but check out the budget difference between the shows.
- hollyminkowski, on 06/14/2008, -8/+41Battlestar Galactica!
I never fail to download it...
Just great TV. - dudefather, on 06/14/2008, -6/+36Red Dwarf
- inactive, on 06/14/2008, -2/+31DS9 was also quite dark at times. Not your typical happy go lucky Trek. It had edgy stories and Star Fleet Offices were forced to be less then your ideal Federation citizen at times to win the Dominion War. Voyager, on the other hand, was totally gay.
If you want a really gritty SF show, watch Babylon 5. Next to Battlestar, one of the greatest SF shows made. - inactive, on 06/14/2008, -1/+30He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence moving from topic to topic so that no one had a chance to interrupt it was really quite hypnotic.
- Depthfunction, on 06/14/2008, -6/+35When Star Trek: Voyager first launched, I hoped that it would be a bit like Battlestar Galactica (the old series, obviously) in that it would feature a starship, lost in space, searching for earth, forced to survive by their wits. Instead we go the cartoonish Neelix and the living Barbie doll 7 of 9. I was disappointed.
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..................................., - slicky803, on 06/14/2008, -1/+28And Harry Kim who didn't get promoted from Ensign for seven years.
- slicky803, on 06/14/2008, -2/+26That's how I thought.
I mean, the name.
Battlestar - nerd
Galactica - supernerd.
Then I sat down and watched an ep.
Three days later, I emerged, disheveled, hungry, and thirsty, but I had found my new obsession. - Fallout911, on 06/14/2008, -6/+30I just started watching BSG and I must say that it is the best show that I have ever seen.
- sarge96, on 06/14/2008, -3/+25Actually, Star Trek provides quite a bit of background if you're fan enough to look for it. Episodes have portrayed things from World Wars to Warp Flight as a background for the show.
In the original series, Star Trek offered people hopes and warnings about our potential future if we didn't resolve issues such as racism or the Cold War. Various episodes portrayed societies that had failed at these things and had been destroyed as a result. Lately, the books and shows have lost that, but for me, that's what ST is all about. - inactive, on 06/14/2008, -0/+22Not for Kirk.
- inactive, on 06/14/2008, -19/+41Trek is training sci-fi: a safe, sugary , easy-to-swallow variety before you graduate into the hard stuff.
BSG kicks Trek's ASS. - guytoronto, on 06/14/2008, -13/+33Stargate.
- tackle, on 06/14/2008, -10/+29It is blasphemous to compare BSG with Star Trek.
- vibrokatana, on 06/14/2008, -0/+19Why ***** the same one six times? Shoot, you could even go so far as to kill her and ***** her dead body as she resurrects.
Ok...that was going a little too far... - CobaltBlue, on 06/14/2008, -0/+18Plus, I think that they lost and retook their ship about 20 times.
- Ne007, on 06/14/2008, -2/+19It's like comparing apples to oranges.
It would be easier to compare something like Farscape to Star Trek.
Battlestar is in a league of it's own when it comes to sci-fi shows. I would say Battlestar is more comparable to shows like "24" if anything really.
I thank God everytime a good sci-fi show is made...they don't come around very often and when they come out with something good a lot of the time these days it gets cut. I don't watch anything until it makes it to the second season. - LiberalKid, on 06/14/2008, -3/+19Star Trek can't compare to the re-imagined series at all. The new series is simply brilliant.
While Star Trek has its place in science fiction cannon, BSG regularly moves past the limitations of the science fiction genre. Its now simple a show about science fiction, its a show about religion, politics, morality, ethics and well much more. The writing, pacing, acting and cinematography of BSG are on a level that Star Trek simply has never reached.
Don't get me wrong I love Next Generation as much as the next nerd, but BSG is simply on a different level. - runnernerd, on 06/14/2008, -0/+15Star Trek started in the 60's. Given all the ***** going on then and the shadow of WWII its a small wonder that they would hope for a utopian society.
- sanman, on 06/13/2008, -3/+18Trek is too goody-goody compared to BSG, which is grittier hard sci-fi that grabs you by the balls.
- dwright99, on 06/14/2008, -12/+26Babylon 5
- Radar3D, on 06/14/2008, -1/+15nerd.
- packman86, on 06/14/2008, -1/+14Fact!
- ho0ber, on 06/14/2008, -0/+13m-m-m-m-make it so... make it so
- BMWodarski, on 06/14/2008, -4/+16BSG with very few exceptions is one of the best written shows on television. There's barely any "filler" episodes sans season 4. I completely agree with the authors look on the series. It talks about current social and political issues with out even mentioning them. There's something very profound about the series and speaks to our humanity and offers a more "realistic" look as to how we as a society would act in such a situation. It is definatly a show that I firmly believe is for everyone. (I got my ex who refused to watch Star Wars completely hooked on this show.) I believe that it's a testiment to the writing acting and idea's behind the show.
- kevro, on 06/14/2008, -2/+14You forget the enterprise has networked computers!!! (gasp)
- KaJuN4, on 06/14/2008, -1/+12You'll have to come back later. I'm, uh, not dressed properly.
- inactive, on 06/14/2008, -1/+12Darmok and Jalad at Tanagra
- Gorrondonuts, on 06/14/2008, -0/+10Michael!!!
- SuperJimmyJimbo, on 06/14/2008, -2/+12"Voyager, on the other hand, was totally gay."
7 of 9, anyone? - remlap, on 06/14/2008, -0/+9Then tap it :D
As long as its Katee and not Dirk, Kirk doesnt swing that way. - KaJuN4, on 06/14/2008, -0/+9The only reason I couldn't get into Voyager was because I couldn't stand hearing Janeway's voice for longer than a nanosecond, let alone an entire episode.
- bdbr, on 06/14/2008, -0/+9It seems like they were talking about Trek:NG. The original one was probably OK for its time, but I can't watching it without laughing now. I mean really, why do they even need that huge ship if a half-dozen people are going to do all the work? Was it just a giant warehouse of red-shirted guys so one could get offed every week?
The thing that first impressed me about NG is that the Captain didn't go scurrying off into every dangerous situation (and the guy with that dangerous job got to be called "number one"!). It was a grown-up version of ST.
BSG is something entirely different, and that's a great thing. Even if you don't like it, you should be happy to see Sci-Fi exploring new directions instead of just regurgitating the same theme over and over again. - dend, on 06/14/2008, -3/+12I like them both.
- RobotBuddha, on 06/14/2008, -0/+8WAAAALTTTT!
- Pillage, on 06/14/2008, -2/+10I think that in BSG the viewer is asked to actively participate in the story, and the cinematography really gives it the feel that you are in the shoes of a colonist. So in that respect I believe that BSG is superior.
- inactive, on 06/14/2008, -0/+8The Stories were. 7 of 9 was probably brought in to boost ratings. How many times did they have a chance to get home sooner and Janeway queered the deal, ridiculous.
- watership, on 06/14/2008, -0/+8Most of the writers of Battlestar Galactica used to write for Star Trek: Deep Space Nine.
- watership, on 06/14/2008, -0/+8DS9 Dominion Arc written by the same guys who write BSG. That works :)
- Akairenn, on 06/14/2008, -2/+9Trek, pants down, sure.
Janeway: INVERT THE PULSE TACHYON EMITTER ON A ROTATING PHASER! SHIFT THE PARADIGM! HYPERSCALABILITY! VIRTUAL MEMORY!
Adama: This is a nuclear mission order. -
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