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- plhearn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47@scratched
I think you just turned "buzzword" into a buzzword. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+29Bitter much?
- NoodleGuy, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27AJAX may be a buzzword, but it is also a unified and easy to remember name for a bunch of technologies that lots of developers (Like me) wanted to use, but didn't know what to look for. I remember that before I heard the term AJAX, I was looking for a tutorial on how to develop a star rating system with no page refresh like on Netflix. I didn't know what to search for, I mean searching for "Star rating system no page refresh like netflix tutorial" for some reason didn't render any useful results. Once I found a name for it, AJAX, I was able to search for AJAX rating system and found several tutorials. Since then, I've used AJAX to develop other features into sites.
So, long story short, it may be a buzzword, but it is a helpful one that names a technology that heretofore didn't have an accessible name. Not to mention, that when discussing these features with clients, or management I can explain what I want to do, and the more savvy clients know the term AJAX, where if I told them "I want to develop a system using asynchronous Javascript and XML to allow users to view new information without a full page refresh," the clients glaze over, and I end up boring them to death. - antwan, on 10/12/2007, -4/+24it sure is a real term and acronym, dumbass: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dhtml
- negativefx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18@chiatar: The submitter obviously made a mistake...he meant to put the D at the end of your name instead of before HTML.
"DHTML might be a legit web design concept. It's not a language"... umm, what does the L stand for in HTML? Last time I checked, it was LANGUAGE. You are out of your ***** element. - displaynone, on 10/12/2007, -8/+25Don't Hate The MiniAJAX Loser (DHTML)
- Flamekebab, on 10/12/2007, -6/+22I'm not sure how it's relevant, but I certainly agree with the sentiment expressed!
- shakin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15@chiatar
DHTML describes the process of modifying HTML markup dynamically using Javascript. That's what the D is... Dynamic HTML. It changes dynamically. Get it?
It isn't new (I've been using it since 1998 or 1999), but that doesn't make it any less valid. - aaronkarp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Ok ok. HTML is a language. It's a markup language, not a programming language. DHTML is a term referring to HTML that is (can be) changed at runtime, usually with javascript. DHTML is not a language; it is just a way of working with HTML.
Javascript, which is most often used to make the HTML dynamic, is a programming language. - noodlez, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11@chiatar
where was the claim made that DHTML is a language - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8AJAX isn't an GUI interface... its a protocol method to gather information while the user is making changes without refreshing the page. The DHTML is what shows the changes and events.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15Kids? Who the ***** are you? AJAX works via DHTML... what do you think happens on digg itself when the edit timer is counting? Or you click a vote and the vote count changes? Hence the DYNAMIC part of DHTML. Are you saying HTML isn't a language either?
- agdros, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9ok this made me laugh.. thanks.
- Saiing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5@chiatar
Your first comment was that DHTML wasn't a real term or acronym. Given that it's been in use by the web development community for a number of years, your first comment was factually incorrect. Since then you've done nothing but backtrack, blow smoke and try and justify something that was just plain wrong. Next time do yourself a favour and just leave it, lest you make an even bigger idiot of yourself. - nickway, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7So why did you include your link? Trying to get some traffic?
Ad words my friend. Get adwords. - evilpig, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I've never seen a retard argue that long.
- noodlez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5why are you going on a tirade about DHTML and not AJAX?
both are just acronyms that describe the use of technologies. none of them are programming languages themselves.
no one made the claim that DHTML is a straight programming language. you made the claim that someone made the claim. all you're doing is just digging yourself a deeper and deeper hole.
as for a reference to the validity of the term "DHTML", aka "Dynamic HTML", you'll find that on the w3c site: http://www.w3.org/DOM/ - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9Are you retarded? DHTML has been around for a while and there are many books on the subject.
- dotlizard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8yes it is. (antwan beat me to it).
- kozmo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Someone clue me in. What is the difference between AJAX and DHTML?
- GenoBaby, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It amazes me when ppl comment and they don't know what they are talking about. BTW nice find.
- raydar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5DHTML doesn't include the asynchronous server calls. DHTML uses Javascript on the client side to Dynamically modify HTML content. By adding Asynchronous Server calls you can dynamically change true business data and not just user interface elements without the requirement of reloading the entire web page.
At least this is my limited understanding. Anyone please feel free to correct me. - negativefx, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I'm glad that you are amazed by yet another Amazing® submission.
- russellnation, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I dont care what its called
it still looks cool - Alexx3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Nice collection if your looking for the the odd thing to drop into a site, the only main downside of a collection like that is if you install a few you end up with a lot of random .js files, moo.fx for this, script.aculo.us for that, a js onload function for one thing that conflicts with another.... things can get a bit missy and slow, if your planning on using a few your best off picking out a framework of choice and reading up on putting some of your own bits and bobs together off the back of it.
- imakecomments, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4OK here it is in a nutshell, no details, just generalisations, etc, etc, don't hate me for leaving out your favourite bit...
AJAX: Asynchronous Javascript and XML
Using Javascript, the browser communicates asynchronously with the server, typically with a request for data. The data are (usually) returned in XML format. That's it.
DHTML: Dynamic HTML
Javascript used (mostly) to manipulate the DOM in the browser. - Arainach, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Ignoring for the moment that Wikipedia IS a valid resource (as accurate as Encyclopedia Brittanica):
http://msdn.microsoft.com/workshop/author/dhtml/reference/dhtml_reference_entry.asp
http://www.adobe.com/v1/developer/TechnologyReference/dhtml.cfm - onemillion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i wish i could digg this twice...
- se1zure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://www.frequency-decoder.com/demo/table-sort-revisited/paginate.html
Now, THAT is useful! - inajeep, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Not all for free : Roll-your-own AJAX Slideshow wants money if you use it.
- frednofr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Nice trolling. Very nice.
- ziga, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Actually, the script is free. From the front page ( http://slideshow.triptracker.net/ ):
"The viewer is free to use in personal or commercial web pages, provided it is not sold or exchanged for profit." - idiggeverything, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I needed the edit in place, thanks for the link
- raydar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I understand you're kidding. But I hadn't really thought of it when looking at this page but by rotating the screen shots slightly the designer is making it easier to discern the screenshots from other ui elements that he may have on his page. Thereby keeping a user from trying to click on inactive stuff. So yes, I think it is cool that he rotated them slightly.
I have to admit I probably would have said the same thing a couple of months ago, but I have been seeing things very differently since reading "Don't Make Me Think" by Steve Krug. It really opened my eyes to how small changes can make a huge difference in usability. - noodlez, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3reading comprehension for the win. directly from the page:
"'Dynamic HTML" is a term used by some vendors to describe the combination of HTML, style sheets and scripts that allows documents to be animated.'
dare you to try and argue that DHTML is not the acronym for Dynamic HTML. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2here you are some useful links:
http://www.ajaxprojects.com
http://www.ajaxlines.com
http://web2.ajaxprojects.com - displaynone, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6congratulations you are smarter than us all.
- Atomic1fire, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@self proclaimed Genius
dhtml was around before web2.0 - rages4calm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Hella nice collection of scripts
- KingAR_II, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3As a designer i find a lot of these tools useful, to anyone at any skill level.
But being the code Nazi that I am, I get a kick when 'buzzword' sites fail validation... horribly!
http://validator.w3.org/check?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.miniajax.com%2F&charset=%28detect+automatically%29&doctype=Inline - washcapsfan37, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, that is a common misconception a lot of people have -- that AJAX is only used to dynamically make changes to the front end GUI. But AJAX only deals with creating an HTTP connection back to the server to fetch data (according to the strict definition of AJAX it would be XML but it doesn't technically have to be). Most AJAX-enabled websites and frameworks use DHTML to parse the data received from AJAX to manipulate the rendered HTML, but AJAX doesn't necessarily have to do that. It could be used to solely push data to the server and ignore the response.
- jpkones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@chiatar
LOL! Look at all your comments: You're modded off the face of the planet, and then you just keep posting! Don't you realize you're being a dick? I love digg so much- priceless social commentary. Chitar blows forever! - Nick22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is great. For some reason im good at PHP and whatnot, but i suck balls at javascript, so iv been having a tough time getting the hang of ajax, and havnt found any prewritten AJAX scripts that I can use for reference.
- tybris, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"bantered about by web 2.0 idiots"
that would be web 1.0 idiots - bstrackany, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1deleted
- thailand1972, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Hmm the AJAX form validation here:-
http://tetlaw.id.au/view/javascript/really-easy-field-validation
....is purely client-side form validation. Switch off javascript and it's completely broken - a big no-no for form validation. AJAX can do some cool things, but if you use it, it needs to degrade well (i.e. still perform the same function if javascript was disabled). - yonas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is an incredible resource.
- laceration, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1And you don't need to overdo AJAX. If you don't have a lot of data or need to do a lot of processing, like getting a record from a db, why not just make hidden divs that change their property to visible on mouse click or whatever?
- mapkinase, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I vote for this
http://archive.dojotoolkit.org/nightly/tests/widget/test_FisheyeList.html -
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