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- Emachine, on 09/06/2008, -7/+188***** THE CRIA
- KniteWulf, on 09/06/2008, -8/+158***** the CRIA?
- UtahPirate, on 09/05/2008, -7/+126Geez... the studies done in Canada, the US, the UK, Sweden... none of it matters, right? The ones that say that sharing doesn't impact their business, I mean--and not the LEK study which had flawed data, methodology, and conclusions.
This is about controlling the market, plain and simple. It's not about the actual money, it's about controlling the population's ability to think for itself.
Such failures to reason seem like the perfect death knell for such organizations. - SSPink, on 09/06/2008, -1/+64This is big time, as it says in the article, isoHunt is a torrent search engine, not a tracker. All isoHunt does is search indexes of torrent files. All torrent files do is contain metadata about the files that are being shared and the tracker. The tracker coordinates the communication between the peers, who are sharing the files with each other. isoHunt isn't violating anyone's copyright anymore than google is. In fact, the BitTorrent indexes which isoHunt searches aren't violating any copyrights. And whether or not the actual BitTorrent trackers are even violating copyrights is very much an issue in debate.
Sorry for the BitTorrent 101 lesson, but it is important because if they rule that isoHunt is somehow liable for the information that it indexes, say goodbye to every search engine as you know them, google, Yahoo, MSN, AOL, all of them. A ruling against isoHunt will mean that they are all responsible not just for the information on their own site, but they are also responsible for the content of every site they index... I'm going to say that again: every search engine would be responsible for all of the data on every site they index if the music industry has their way.
That would be a monumental decision: Did some blog use your copyrighted image without permission? Was that blog indexed by google? Sue google, they're responsible. Someone use a trademarked image? One of your copyrighted songs available on someone's blog? Sue Yahoo. Search engines would be forced to index only sites that they could be relatively certain would not infringe on anything, a tiny percentage of the web, mostly big corporation's web sites. - inactive, on 09/06/2008, -2/+54I've said this before, but...
When will BREIN, the CRIA, RIAA, MPAA, and other anti-piracy money-mongering groups realize that they're fighting a losing battle?
Seriously. - Chaoticfist, on 09/06/2008, -3/+43I love this ***** country. :) Never gonna want to live anywhere other than the Great White North. All i can say is ***** the CRIA and ***** Harper and all that stand with them and Bill C-61. GO Isohunt. As well to all the Canadians read up on Bill C-61, and also the only party doing anything about it is the NDP so vote for them come next election. Also email your local leaders and your Mps.
- Murdats, on 09/06/2008, -3/+32because we hate you, we all hate you so very, very much.
- plup, on 09/06/2008, -0/+29Okay. Why not..
- kyle212, on 09/06/2008, -1/+27What are you? The great defender?
From my watch I have another 2 days to make jokes from that cracked article - Apocrypha, on 09/06/2008, -0/+21Unless the CRIA wants to sue google too, they better just ***** OFF!
- iMyst, on 09/06/2008, -3/+22Copyright infringement is illegal, so is theft. They are not however the same. Deal with a dictionary, dic.
- Karai, on 09/06/2008, -0/+19But it's not... It's just indexing files that link to things, kind of like how Google links to web pages that they do not own... That is what search engines are for...
It doesn't link to illegal material, it links to a program that connects people together and allows them to share data. The search engines don't have any illegal data. Nor do the trackers. The data, both legal and illegal, are all on user's systems. The files never touch the trackers or search engines. IsoHunt hosts text files that tell users which trackers they need to connect to, to get the files they want. The trackers then tell the users which other users to connect to. The users themselves have all the data.
Google links to pages that tell you how to make bombs. Those web pages tell you where to go to buy the ingredients, and how to mix them, etc. But YOU would have to make them bomb. Neither Google nor BombsRUs.com would be doing anything illegal, it would be you making the bomb...
I hope that made sense :
tl;dr: IsoHunt has a bunch of text files that tell you where to go to do bad things, just like Google has a bunch of links that tell you where to go to do bad things. - giraffedude, on 09/06/2008, -4/+22dugg for use of death knell
- iMyst, on 09/06/2008, -1/+18Death Knell would be a good Pokemon move.
- bdav87, on 09/06/2008, -0/+17yes. because people still use torrents.
- RogerStrong, on 09/06/2008, -6/+20Because when you're reading down the list of stories in a search, the most recent story is on top.
HTH - Rizzen93, on 09/06/2008, -0/+15Harper will dissolve parliament on Sunday. VOTE.
- MWeather, on 09/06/2008, -0/+14"copyright infringement is illegal"
Well duh. isoHunt doesn't infringe on copyright, though. They host torrents, not copyrighted content. - aereaus, on 09/06/2008, -0/+13They'll never stop torrents or downloading. Already people are moving to rapidshare and similar sites to get what they want. Screw'um. I have no problem buying a CD or DVD if I really like it. Put out better content instead of Hollywood formula crap and you will get paid.
- BrainInAJar, on 09/06/2008, -1/+14"theft of Intellectual property IS THEFT"
Intellectual property is theft.
It's theft from the commons and from the culture of that which ought to be freely built upon and shared. - DSizzle, on 09/06/2008, -2/+14In case no one has noticed...
Massaks has posted 8 comments about this article. After reviewing his profile, he has posted over 75 comments just in the past 24 hours, all except one of which have been buried.
Here are the reasons you should not be on digg:
You like John McCain
You think torrents are evil
You watch Fox News
You don't like firefox
You are a *****. Stop destroying my digg experience and go masterbate until you calm down a little, then think about killing yourself. - kyle212, on 09/06/2008, -0/+10This makes me think about this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-flQmtL_IQ - masti1234, on 09/06/2008, -1/+11As long as
1) Isohunt has a policy of taking off illegal content when requested to do the same by the relevant authority/copyright holders,
2) They are not hosting the FILES on their own server,
3) They are not posting .torrent files containing illegal files by themselves (ie they are posted by users)
and
4) They have a disclaimer/TOS clearly stating that they shouldn't be held responsible for the content shared voluntarily by the USERS.
Legally, no action can be taken against them.
(And I hope it doesn't get taken!)
Long live bittorrent! - brianpeiris, on 09/06/2008, -0/+7I sent my MP an email regarding Bill C-61 and got this reply:
http://flickr.com/photos/brianpeiris/2833115503/
It's not too late, write to your MP and vote for someone who supports your views!
Here's a helpful link to get started: http://www.copyrightforcanadians.ca/action/firstlo ... - SSPink, on 09/06/2008, -0/+7The battle is worldwide, not just in America, and despite what American Corporations like to think, American law doesn't extend outside America's borders. Let's see them stop the Pirate Bay.
- oxymoron69, on 09/06/2008, -1/+8How so?
***** retard... I'd call keeping the site running in spite of threats is pretty damn heroic.
...demonoid.com, go there much? - sockpuppets, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6I yell that when I'm cleaning my toilet. Then I get out my scrubbing bubbles.
- meean, on 09/06/2008, -1/+7Demonoid registrations are open!!
http://www.demonoid.com - cygnus2112, on 09/06/2008, -2/+7So, speeding is no longer a crime? Woohoo!
- Braintricks, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6it's like the war on drugs to be honest.
- CanadaMan87, on 09/06/2008, -0/+6If it's a dildo, what does being black have to do with it?
Are black dildos bigger than white dildos now too? - ComradeGoby, on 09/06/2008, -5/+11STOP RIGHT THERE CRIMINAL SCUM
- HonoredMule, on 09/07/2008, -0/+6gonorrhea
- Ne007, on 09/06/2008, -2/+7Bittorrent is better than anything you can pay for....
- lesosso, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5vote for the bloc, is like throwing your vote to the garbage and giving a lifetime pension to someone who's laughing. You know about what? You!
- Chaoticfist, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5I thought i would add in. The bloc is not moving against Bill C-61, they are actually arguing that Bill C-61 is not harsh enough and wont support what they see as a toothless bill.
- IanPR, on 09/06/2008, -0/+5Peter Sunde makes it funnier. :(
- outlaw686, on 09/06/2008, -1/+6That's the argument though Iso hunt is merely a search engine, they are not responsible and cannot control what users put into there system it's just a system that cannot distinguish what is illegal and legal. Kind of like how you can go on any search engine and look up how to make meth or bombs, is it illegal? Yes! Do they have control over that? No, the end user is responsible. Should Google be shut down because you can search for illegal content on it? Of course not! They are not responsible for what other people put on the internet they are just a search engine.
Isohunt is just a search engine, nothing more. They are not responsible for whatever information there program swallows up at a users request. If they say that the search has to be filtered to remove illegal torrents BREIN, the CRIA, RIAA, MPAA, and other anti-piracy money-mongering groups would push to have all search engines filtered for illegal content.
If you want to see what it is like when the internet is filtered and stripped of all illegal content and anything some group doesn't like. Move to China. - MikeyMoose, on 01/30/2009, -0/+4"Legally, no action can be taken against them."? I can legally "take action" against pretty much anyone and anything. Taking action is easy, especially if you have deep pockets.
Winning, now that's different. - dsmx, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4How many times must this be repeated piracy is not stealing. Under no legal definition can it be defined as theft it is copyright infringement and is a completely different law.
- Chaoticfist, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4I would sooner shoot my self in the foot than vote for the Bloc.
- plup, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4lol, n00b.
- jeremymccurdy, on 09/06/2008, -0/+4BombsRUs.com doesn't sell any bombs, I'm highly disappointed.
- Tippx, on 09/06/2008, -4/+8its aboot time Canada legalizes torrents, eh?
- tpfaff, on 09/07/2008, -1/+5good luck isohunt!!!
- RogerStrong, on 09/06/2008, -1/+4Yes. And because it was submitted second, that means that it was submitted more recently than the first. And that means that when you do a search (sorted by date - you only want to comment on recent stories), it appears on top.
Sorry - I should have realized by your lack of maturity that you'd have a similar lack of reading skills. - crossmr, on 09/07/2008, -1/+4Your ability to parrot stereotypes is amazing.
- carterx, on 09/06/2008, -0/+3give me my free prize now and then i will digg you
- havelava, on 09/13/2008, -0/+3buried for head pain!
- MikeyMoose, on 01/30/2009, -0/+3Erm, we have social policies - we're not socialist.
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