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- trooz1, on 10/12/2007, -6/+242...and thousands of dollars to buy your way up the thetan ladder. It's *****. A 'religion' invented to draw people in and take their money. Here's an idea: rather than spending thousands of dollars to become a 'supreme being', how about you donate it to charity. Go on a workteam. Shovel your elderly neighbor's driveway. You will get a hell of a better feeling out of it than some ***** that measures your worth by your wallet.
- dusingaz, on 10/12/2007, -23/+181maybe, but other religions don't involve Aliens... and theaten levels.
- vann, on 10/12/2007, -20/+143As an atheist I judge the worth of a religion by its ability to produce art. Christianity and Islam have produced some of the most beautiful pieces of art -- paintings, music, literature, all of it -- in the history of mankind. Anything that gives people that much inspiration cannot be wholly corrupt.
What has Scientology given us besides ***** science fiction and bad movies starring John Travolta? - Angostura, on 10/12/2007, -7/+121Most other religions aren't specifically structured in such a way to maximize the amount of cash extracted from followers. You have to pay to see the 'scriptures' If Christianity or Islam took people to court for publishing parts of the Bible or Koran without permission on the grounds of IP theft you would have a point.
- HappyScrappy, on 10/12/2007, -4/+89No. You're wrong. Read their literature (if you can get your hands on it without having to pay a ton).
Hubbard claimed Scientology is as scientific as Chemistry is. He then gets very specific about things, like souls being frozen in glycol and people traveling between the stars in space ships that look almost exactly like DC-8s. Oh, and don't forget the "science" that you can remove impurities from your body through the ingestion of massive amounts of niacin.
No, Scientology makes claims that are supposed to be provable due to the scientific nature they claim, but they don't put up with people trying to prove or disprove their stuff with the scientific method.
And besides that, it's a ridiculous money scam.
Personally, I would support a definition of a religion in the US that states that something cannot be a religion if they do not share their faith without large charges (including in Scientology's case investing time in lieu of money for some people).
As an added bonus, I will quote Isaac Hayes: "Nobody is exempt from their humor," he said. "They're equal-opportunity offenders. Don't be offended by it. If you take it too seriously, you have problems." Of course, he said this before he quit the show over their spearing his religion. - matts0344, on 10/12/2007, -2/+73Whats your point anyway? South Park makes fun of every other religion as well, they are just not picking on Scientology.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+69A writer who is on record having said "The best way to get rich is to found a religion".
- fourfive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+71The 'Scientology Episode' It's really not that bad.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t8LkfRkIDk&search=trapped%20in%20the%20closet - drunkJerkface, on 10/12/2007, -4/+71We Pastafarians don't have to worry about ***** like this.
- newmind, on 10/12/2007, -2/+59@Seumas
Are you kidding me? Other religions are mocked and made fun of all the time with no harassment or lawsuits resulting. The movies "Saved" and "Dogma" come to mind. It is seriously commonplace in our culture to have a laugh at the expense of religion.
The difference with scientology is that they harass, sue, defame, threaten, and otherwise be ***** to everyone who publicly criticizes them. I'll probably get a threatening letter from their lawyers for posting this comment. Why do the vigerously protect their "brand"? It's because they are making a mint using free labor and "religious ceremonies" that share alot in common with KGB brainwashing tactics. Check xenu.net for more. A head to head comparision of scientology with other major world religions will quickly show that it is a joke and should not even be considered a religion. - DrakeGTA, on 10/12/2007, -3/+60Ramen Brother.
- Urusai, on 10/12/2007, -2/+58Scientology doesn't even own the copyrights to their own "religious technology", it's owned by RTC, a dummy corporation located overseas in a favorable jurisdiction, which licenses them to Scientology for big money. Thus, CoS can pretend to be non-profit, while RTC collects big shekels tax-free in some banana republic. You can guess who the shareholders of RTC are.
- topey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+52It's sad to see Chef leave the show... even though he's a hypocritcal bitch with sand in his vagina!
Mary bleeding out her ass? Check cashed!
Mormons mocked? Check cashed!
Jews mocked? Check cashed!
Zenu mocked? OMG SAND IN VAGINA?!?!
Bye Isaac Hayes... back to the unemployment line where you belong! I guess your inner Thetan was a big pussy. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+58Not really.
-Christianity (and Islam, Buddhism, etc.) wasn't invented by a science fiction writer within the last century.
-Christianity doesn't have a fee sheet requiring X-$1000's of dollars per access to book of the Bible, like Scientology does for their equivalent texts.
"Nobody would dare pick on those religions in the same way." Sure they would. You dared ("pretending to drink the blood of some midddle aged dude that was nailed to a cross"), just like hundreds of millions of people constantly 'dare' to do so in books, academic papers, online posts, conversations, etc.
Not claiming there aren't problems, but to claim them all as identical is ignorant IMHO. - Quarks, on 10/12/2007, -0/+50I'm glad to see some Americans stepping up to this cult, yes I said cult because that's what it is in most European countries here.
Just read what on wikipedia what kind of scary things those Scientologist did.
This will make a nice addition to Scientology VS. The Internet (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientology_versus_The_Internet)
See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karin_Spaink for how governments should handle this kind of thing.
Well, I'm sure this will get modded down by Scientologists but at least i gave it a shot. - BloodyPath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+49"So, Scientology, you may have won THIS battle, but the million-year war for earth has just begun!" the "South Park" creators said in a statement Friday in Daily Variety. "Temporarily anozinizing our episode will NOT stop us from keeping Thetans forever trapped in your pitiful man-bodies... You have obsructed us for now, but your feeble bid to save humanity will fail!"
Oh man, too funny. This may shape up to be a media circus on par with the O.J. case. - mistagray, on 10/12/2007, -3/+46in my opinion,what makes scientology more riduculous than the other religons you mentioned is the fact that it was started by a science fiction writer..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -122/+162The only problem I see with any of this is that Scientology isn't any more ridiculous than any other religion out there. The only difference is that EVERYONE laughs at the Scientologists, including the Christian types and all the rest. It's similar to laughing and native americans and their beliefs in various gods and deities as being "ludicrious and silly" while you're going around pretending to drink the blood of some midddle aged dude that was nailed to a cross.
There is just as much idiocy, *****, corruption and evilness in other formal, organized religions as there is in scientology. But nobody would dare pick on those religions in the same way, because then they would say you're being ignorant, mean and intolerant. - BadassCheese, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41scientology is more ridiculous
Cristianity- all powerful god, gave his son, something about the holy spirit- nonprofit
Islam- all powerfull and loving godm great prophet- nonprofit
Scientology- frozen aliens dumped in volcano are reason for all problems- masive profit
hmmm..... - nukethewhales, on 10/12/2007, -2/+36This isn't the first episode of South Park to be banned this year. An episode titled "Bloody Mary" in which a statue of the virgin mary goes through what appears to be a menstrual cycle (and all over the new Pope's face no less) was pulled from Comedy Central earlier this year. So you have to admit that Matt and Trey give it to more than just the crackpot scam religions.
- cliph, on 10/12/2007, -3/+29Scientology is not a religion.
- ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27My hand is tired of digging so many comments.
- joshduck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25I'm an athiest, but I can see why people accept Christianity, Judism, Islam etc. Theses are religions with thousands of years of history, and at least in the case of Christianity, people take a lot of it to be metaphorical. They are based around the foundations of a good society, and have actually helped humanity grow (unfortunately, these messages do tend to be twisted and misused as well).
Scientology is a built around a joke, a bad sci-fi story. It is plainly a money making business. The more I learn about it the more stupid it sounds. If you looked at Scientology objectively you would probably see that too, however that is a difficult thing to do when you are surrounded by the people who want you to believe their rubbish. I would hate to think what the world would be like if everyone were a Scientologist. - Chort, on 10/12/2007, -2/+24"***** L Ron Hubbard and
***** all his clones."
- Ænema - Tool - TheRealPod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21I couldn't believe the story about Scientology was real so I looked it up on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenu#Summary_of_the_Xenu_story
I try to keep an open mind but geeze. Numerous Scifi series are more worthy then this trite. - ianam, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19What's ridiculous is that you and most of those who responded to you seem to think that Scientology really is a religion -- rather than Hubbard making that claim solely as a tax scam -- and that Scientologists are practitioners of a religion, believing in a set of doctrines or myths involving space aliens, volcanoes, etc. Nothing could be further from the truth; the vast majority of Scientologists are forbidden from speaking of or even knowing of Xenu and his volcanoes. There's nothing in the Scientology literature they read that talks about any of that -- that literature isn't religious at all. Scientology is not a religion, it is a rigidly structured bureaucracy that presents itself as helping people reach their potential, a la EST, but in reality it pulls vulnerable people off the street, brainwashes them, robs them blind, and puts them to work pulling other vulnerable people off the street and robbing them blind. Regardless of the flaws of organized religion, it is ignorant or disingenuous to treat Scientology as if it were one. It has no deities, priests, sacred texts, worship, moral teachings, or anything else that would make it a religion. All it has is an IRS status that was long suspended, and there's good reason to think that it was only reinstated because the IRS commissioners were blackmailed -- a common Scientology practice.
- florin, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21First off, the leaderships of the major religions probably do believe literally in what they preach. Whereas Scientology is a scam designed to squeeze money out of the gullible and naive - and its leaders are probably very aware of that.
- fsjonsey, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Some great L Ron Hubbard Quotes:
"Scientology is used to increase spiritual freedom, intelligence, ability and to produce immortality."
- L. Ron Hubbard, DIANETICS AND SCIENTOLOGY TECHNICAL DICTIONARY, copyright 1975, reprinted 1987, p. 370
"MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY. MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MORE MONEY."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 9 March 1972, MS OEC 384
"Show me any person who is critical of us and I%u2019ll show you crimes and intended crimes that would stand a magistrate%u2019s hair on end."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, 4 April 1965
"Somebody some day will say %u2018this is illegal.%u2019 By then be sure the orgs [Scientology organizations] say what is legal or not."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 4 January 1966, "LRH Relationship to Orgs"
"If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 15 August 1960, Dept. of Govt. Affairs
"The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win. The law can be used very easily to harass, and enough harassment on somebody who is simply on the thin edge anyway, well knowing that he is not authorized, will generally be sufficient to cause his professional decease. If possible, of course, ruin him utterly."
- L. Ron Hubbard, A MANUAL ON THE DISSEMINATION OF MATERIAL, 1955
"When we need somebody haunted we investigate%u2026When we investigate we do so noisily always."
- L. Ron Hubbard, MANUAL OF JUSTICE, 1959
"People attack Scientology, I never forget it, always even the score. People attack auditors, or staff, or organisations, or me. I never forget until the slate is clear."
- L. Ron Hubbard, MANUAL OF JUSTICE, 1959
"So we listen. We add up associations of people with people. When a push against Scientology starts somewhere, we go over the people involved and weed them out. Push vanishes."
- L. Ron Hubbard, MANUAL OF JUSTICE, 1959
"Our organizations are friendly. They are only here to help you."
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Dianetic Contract" 23 May 1969
"ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 18 October 1967
[SP = Suppressive Person a.k.a. critic of Scientology]
"The practice of declaring people FAIR GAME will cease. FAIR GAME may not appear on any Ethics Order. It causes bad public relations.
This P/L does not cancel any policy on the treatment or handling of an SP."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 21 October 1968, "Cancellation of Fair Game"
"A truly Suppressive Person or group has no rights of any kind and actions taken against them are not punishable."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 1 March 1965, HCO (Division 1) "Ethics, Suppressive Acts, Suppression of Scientology and Scientologists"
"The names and connections, at this time, of the bitterly opposing enemy are: 1. Psychiatry and psychology (not medicine). 2. The heads of news media who are also directors of psychiatric front groups. 3. A few key political figures in the fields of "mental health" and education. 4. A decline of monetary stability caused by the current planning of bankers who are also directors of psychiatric front organizations [that] would make us unable to function."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 16 February 1969, "TARGETS, DEFENSE"
"When you move off a point of power, pay all your obligations on the nail, empower all your friends completely and move off with your pockets full of artillery, potential blackmail on every erstwhile rival, unlimited funds in your private account and the addresses of experienced assassins and go live in Bulgravia [sic] and bribe the police."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 12 February 1967, "The Responsibilities of Leaders"
"There is no more ethical group on this planet than ourselves."
- L. Ron Hubbard, KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING. 7 February 1965, reissued 27 August 1980
"They smell of all the baths they didn%u2019t take. The trouble with China is, there are too many chinks here."
- L. Ron Hubbard%u2019s diary, 1928. (Jon Atack, A PIECE OF BLUE SKY: SCIENTOLOGY, DIANETICS AND L. RON HUBBARD EXPOSED. Lyle Stuart/Carol Publishing Group 1990)
"Having viewed slum clearance projects in most major cities of the world may I state that you have conceived and created in the Johannesburg townships what is probably the most impressive and adequate resettlement activity in existence."
- L. Ron Hubbard in a letter to H.F. Verwoerd (widely considered to be the architect of South Africa%u2019s apartheid system) dated November 7, 1960, reprinted in K.T.C. Kotz, INQUIRY INTO THE EFFECTS AND PRACTICES OF SCIENTOLOGY, p. 59, Pretoria 1973
"In any event, any person from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale should not have, in any thinking society, any civil rights of any kind, because by abusing those rights he brings into being arduous and strenuous laws which are oppressive to those who need no such restraints."
- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, 1989 Ed., p. 145 [The "Tone Scale" is Scientology%u2019s measure of mental and spiritual health.]
"There are only two answers for the handling of people from 2.0 down on the Tone Scale, neither one of which has anything to do with reasoning with them or listening to their justification of their acts. The first is to raise them on the Tone Scale by un-enturbulating some of their theta by any one of the three valid processes. The other is to dispose of them quietly and without sorrow."
- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170
"The sudden and abrupt deletion of all individuals occupying the lower bands of the Tone Scale from the social order would result in an almost instant rise in the cultural tone and would interrupt the dwindling spiral into which any society may have entered."
- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 170
"A Venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to leprosy in that country."
- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 171
"Unfortunately, it is all too often true that suppressors to a creative action must be removed before construction and creation takes place. Any person very high on the Tone Scale may level destruction toward a suppressor."
- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 159
"In all the broad Universe there is no other hope for Man than ourselves."
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Ron's Journal" 1967
"A psychiatrist today has the power to (1) take a fancy to a woman (2) lead her to take wild treatment as a joke (3) drug and shock her to temporary insanity (4) incarnate [sic] her (5) use her sexually (6) sterilise her to prevent conception (7) kill her by a brain operation to prevent disclosure. And all with no fear of reprisal. Yet it is rape and murder%u2026 We want at least one bad mark on every psychiatrist in England, a murder, an assault, or a rape or more than one%u2026 This is Project Psychiatry. We will remove them."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Sec ED, Office of LRH, Confidential, 22 February 1966, "Project Psychiatry"
"I%u2019m drinking lots of rum and popping pinks and greys."
- L. Ron Hubbard in a 1967 letter to his wife, written during the period when he was creating Scientology%u2019s secret "upper levels." (Bent Corydon and L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. a.k.a. Ronald DeWolf, L. RON HUBBARD: MESSIAH OR MADMAN? Random House 1989)
"Now, get this as a technical fact, not a hopeful idea. Every time we have investigated the background of a critic of Scientology, we have found crimes for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, 5 November 1967, "Critics of Scientology"
"This is the correct procedure: Spot who is attacking us. Start investigating them promptly for felonies or worse using our own professionals, not outside agencies. Double curve our reply by saying we welcome an investigation of them. Start feeding lurid, blood sex crime actual evidence on the attackers to the press. Don%u2019t ever tamely submit to an investigation of us. Make it rough, rough on attackers all the way."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 25 February 1966
"We're playing for blood, the stake is EARTH."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 7 November 1962
"THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them."
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Off the Time Track," lecture of June 1952, excerpted in JOURNAL OF SCIENTOLOGY issue 18-G, reprinted in TECHNICAL VOLUMES OF DIANETICS & SCIENTOLOGY, vol. 1, p. 418
"Scientology...is not a religion."
- L. Ron Hubbard, CREATION OF HUMAN ABILITY, 1954, p. 251
"This [Scientology] is useful knowledge. With it the blind again see, the lame walk, the ill recover, the insane become sane and the sane become saner. By its use the thousand abilities Man has sought to recover become his once more."
- L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENTOLOGY: A HISTORY OF MAN, 1952
"Benzedrine often helps a case run."
- L. Ron Hubbard, "The Intensive Processing Procedure," 1950
["Run a case" = administer Dianetics or Scientology procedures to someone]
"Of all the ills of man which can be successfully processed by Scientology, arthritis ranks near the top. In skilled hands, this ailment, though misunderstood and dreaded in the past, already has begun to become history. Twenty-five hours of Scientology by an auditor who fairly understands how to process arthritis can be said to produce an invariable alleviation of the condition. Some cases, even severe ones, have responded in as little as two hours of processing, according to reports from auditors in the field."
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Journal of Scientology," Issue 1-G, 1952
"Leukaemia is evidently psychosomatic in origin and at least eight cases of leukaemia had been treated successfully by Dianetics after medicine had traditionally given up. The source of leukaemia has been reported to be an engram containing the phrase %u2018It turns my blood to water.%u2019"
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Journal of Scientology," Issue 15-G, 1953
"When somebody enrols, consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the universe - never permit an %u2018open-minded%u2019 approach... If they enrolled, they%u2019re aboard, and if they%u2019re aboard they%u2019re here on the same terms as the rest of us - win or die in the attempt. Never let them be half minded about being Scientologists... When Mrs. Pattycake comes to us to be taught, turn that wandering doubt in her eye into a fixed, dedicated glare%u2026 The proper instruction attitude is, %u2018We'd rather have you dead than incapable.%u2019"
- L. Ron Hubbard, KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING, 7 February 1965, reissued 27 August 1980
"Advanced Courses [in Scientology] are the most valuable service on the planet. Life insurance, houses, cars, stocks, bonds, college savings, all are transitory and impermanent... There is nothing to compare with Advanced Courses. They are infinitely valuable and transcend time itself."
- L. Ron Hubbard speaking of his Operating Thetan Courses, Flag Mission Order 375
"%u2019Psychiatry%u2019 and %u2018psychiatrist%u2019 are easily redefined to mean %u2018an anti-social enemy of the people%u2018. This takes the kill crazy psychiatrist off the preferred list of professions...The redefinition of words is done by associating different emotions and symbols with the word than were intended...Scientologists are redefining %u2018doctor%u2018, %u2018Psychiatry%u2019 and %u2018psychology%u2019 to mean %u2018undesirable antisocial elements%u2018...The way to redefine a word is to get the new definition repeated as often as possible. Thus it is necessary to redefine medicine, psychiatry and psychology downward and define Dianetics and Scientology upwards. This, so far as words are concerned, is the public opinion battle for belief in your definitions, and not those of the opposition. A consistent, repeated effort is the key to any success with this technique of propaganda."
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 5 October 1971, PR Series 12, "Propaganda by Redefinition of Words"
"Arthritis vanishes, myopia gets better, heart illness decreases, asthma disappears, stomachs function properly and the whole catalogue of illnesses goes away and stays away."
L. Ron Hubbard, DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, 1987 Ed., p. 72
"Scientology is the only specific (cure) for radiation (atomic bomb) burns."
- L. Ron Hubbard, ALL ABOUT RADIATION, p. 109
"You are only three or four hours from taking your glasses off for keeps."
- L. Ron Hubbard, "Eyesight and glasses," "Dianetic Auditor%u2019s Bulletin," Vol. 2, No. 7, January 1952
"The alleviation of the condition of insanity has also been accomplished now%u2026"
- L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, November 1970, "Psychosis"
"Let%u2019s sell these people a piece of blue sky."
- L. Ron Hubbard to an associate in 1950, soon after the opening of the Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation. (Jon Atack, A PIECE OF BLUE SKY: SCIENTOLOGY, DIANETICS AND L. RON HUBBARD EXPOSED, Lyle Stuart/Carol Publishing Group. 1990)
"I%u2019d like to start a religion. That%u2019s where the money is."
- L. Ron Hubbard to Lloyd Eshbach, in 1949; quoted by Eshbach in OVER MY SHOULDER: REFLECTIONS ON A SCIENCE FICTION ERA, Donald M. Grant Publisher. 1983 - BSpolice, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17OUR volcano has beer in it.
- Katana, on 10/12/2007, -3/+17check out this cartoon as well.
http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/263120 - betasp, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Please go to Comedy Central and write programming about your outrage of this censorship.
http://www.comedycentral.com/help/questionsCC.jhtml - geoboy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13There are no Digg moderators (at least, no moderators in the Slashdot sense where stories are hand picked and reviewed by a staff member). Most everything on Digg is driven by us, the users. Scientologists are obviously a very small minority of Digg users.
If this story gets removed it'll be because enough Digg users have reported it as not being an appropriate story for the Digg homepage -- not because of some Scientologist backlash conspiracy. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -21/+33"I am just sick and tired of hearing stuff like that. People like you give the decent and accepting atheists a bad name."
I'm not an atheist, retard. I'm agnostic. I suppose there is probably some greater being or force out there behind it all - conciously or not. Or maybe there isn't. Who knows? But I know one thing - I'm not arrogant and presumptuous enough to insist that I KNOW that it's some bloody guy on a cross or some magic volcano god or anything else.
See, the difference is that I don't need to fill in my "I DO NOT KNOW"s with anything whereas all these religious goofs have a bunch of "I DO NOT KNOW"s and they will fall apart and shrivel up if they don't fill that hole up with SOMETHING, no matter how silly. - lotus22, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Southpark makes fun of all religions and only NOW is it a problem.
Scientology works very VERY hard to quiet any opposing forces to their religion. - fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15True, but Scientology is just bad science fiction taken seriously.
- topey, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Haha yes! That was the best part of the show... big bold letters!
THIS IS WHAT SCIENTOLOGISTS ACTUALLY BELIEVE! - estacado, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12Tom Cruise should follow Mel Gibson and make the "Passion of Xenu" movie. I'm sure people will go and see it. Non-Scientologists will go and see it as a sci-fi comedy.
- MoFoKeR, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12becouse isaac hayes just recently left southpark and commented on the material the show used which caused his departure so he says
- KissTheRing, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13If one wanted to they could download the torrent for this episode here:
http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3447747 - chrisc2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Christianity gets ripped all of the time. The difference is, Christianity doesn't sue non-believers.
- nitroburn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11L Ron Hubbard Quotes!!! (Creator of Scientology)
THE ONLY WAY YOU CAN CONTROL PEOPLE IS TO LIE TO THEM. You can write that down in your book in great big letters. The only way you can control anybody is to lie to them. [...] [An] individual is lying to you because he is trying to control you---because if they give you enough misinformation they will pull you down the tone scale so that they can control you. -L. Ron Hubbard, "Technique 88"
Make money. Make more money. Make other people make money. - L. Ron Hubbard
There was no Christ. - L. Ron Hubbard
We are slowly and carefully teaching the unholy a lesson. It is as follows: We are not a law enforcement agency. BUT we will become interested in the crimes of people who seek to stop us. If you oppose scientology we promptly look up - and find and expose - your crimes. If you leave us alone we will leave you alone.
It's very simple. Even a fool can grasp that.
And don't underrate our ability to carry it out.
- L. Ron Hubbard - WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Re: crimsonalucard
I think the hairy lobsters could swim on their own... :P - 7of7, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13Meh, no one knows who wrote the stuff that other religions follow. Furthermore, no one knows the motives of the people who wrote the sacred texts for other religions.
- topey, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Agree.. can't wait for Scientology to respond... oh wait I can hear it now
I'm gonna sue! - scheper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10To say Christianity is just as bad, is ridiculous. There are Christians (or people who call themselves such) who abuse faith by misleading people or for personal financial gain. Anyone can say they're doing something in the name of anyone else, but that doesn't necessarily have to mean anything. Christians all over the world have done great things to help other people out, and there are huge numbers of Christian charities that donate all their worth and time into helping the less fortunate. They get no mention when the Christian bashing starts again.
But Christianity is based on the Bible, and the Bible teaches us that giving is better than receiving, and that the poorer we are, the better we're off. Most people have no idea what Christianity is, or any of the other major religions, for that matter, but just like to make assumptions and put everything in boxes so they don't have to deal with it. To compare it to scientology is ignorant, bordering on offensive if it wasn't so dumb.
I don't like South Park myself, but I'm glad they're taking a strong stand against scientology. +digg from me - WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I, for one, agree... of two very ridiculous premises, the scientology one is more ridiculous. Have a bone if you chose one of the slightly less ridiculous fantasies out there to believe in...
On the other hand, Scientology is an awesome social experiment. It really shows how stupid people are, as a society... - angryredplanet, on 10/12/2007, -3/+13@Seumas
"My point is that there is very little difference between all the religions. People say "Yeah, but Scientology was invented by a crazy science fiction writer". Well, no *****. Every religion is invented by SOMEONE. How does that make YOUR religion any more valid than theirs?"
The teachings of Christianity are not "invented by SOMEONE". Most sects of Christianity and Judaism regard the Bible as the revealed word of God in some sense, or an authoritative record of the relationship between God, the world and mankind, or some combination of the two (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bible).
The teachings of Islam are not "invented by SOMEONE". Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the literal word of God in Arabic and the culmination of God's revelation to mankind, revealed to Muhammad, the final prophet of humanity, over a period of 23 years through the angel Gabriel (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quran).
My point here is that the founders of these main religions apparently did not author the texts that contain their teachings, much less charge fees for people to read them.
Scientology was indeed invented by a crackpot/genious sci-fi writer in the 50's as a way to unscrupulously make money out of it's followers. In my church, I donate money IF I SO CHOOSE. If I were "required" to pay fees to be involved in a religion I would vote with my feet and show them my back. As Stan from southpark points out "It's about the message, not the money" and as such, Scientology rates pretty low as a valid religion in my opinion.
You are free to believe what you like, as am I and everyone else. On that note, might I interest you in the Church of ARP-ology. Only $US200 to join and we give you a free "I'm an angryredplanet" tee-shirt after the initial fee is paid. There are also ongoing charges for our administration, BUT we serve tea and coffee at our sermons. We look after our own at ARP-ology. - WiseWeasel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12Yes, all hail his noodly appendage!
- tremaine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9The thing I can't understand is why it took Hayes so long to quit. This episode aired last year, and Matt & Trey even sat down with Him and talked about them ripping on Scientology before they did it. Now in a span of a week or so Hayes quits and Cruise has the airing of a rerun of it pulled????
GQ magazine interviewed them last month. Here's a quote:
GQ: What took you so long to take on Scientology? Was the network worried about it?
TP: To be honest, what kept us from doing it before was Isaac Hayes [who does the voice of Chef]. We knew he was a Scientologist. And he’s an awesome guy. We’re like, Let’s just avoid that for now. But we’re friends with Penn Jillette, and Showtime wouldn’t let him do an episode of *****! on Scientology. We’re going, That’s ***** up. And hearing other people say, “You can’t do that,”—you can only say “You can’t do that” so many times to Matt and me before we’re gonna do it. Finally, we just had to tell Isaac, “Dude, we totally love working with you, and this is nothing personal, it’s just we’re South Park, and if we don’t do this, we’re belittling everything else we’ve ripped on.” So we realized we had to do it, and now that we’ve done it, now it’s like we’ve sort of opened the floodgates. People will be less scared.
You can read the whole interview here:
http://men.style.com/gq/features/landing?id=content_4108 - fantasticFlan, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Actually, I think that's fair for Scientology. Remember, L. Ron was just a bad science fiction author before he started all this.
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