What is Digg?67 Comments
- neura, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4This has nothing to do with doing the right thing. You guys are so fscking deluded.
The text from section 7 of their agreement doesn't even have anything to do with content of sites hosted under the domain name you have registered. It has to do with copyright and trademark infringement in the name itself.
This isn't even fscking NEWSworthy. *sigh*
GoDaddy was never starting on any mass bittorent shutdown or anything even remotely like that. They specifically stated mybittorent.com was in violation of section 7 of their policies. Apparently they thought part or all of the name "mybittorent.com" was trademarked or copyrighted and not by the registrant.
This could easily have come up from some guy sending an email to GoDaddy acting as (or god forbid actually being) a lawyer. Stating that the name was infringing on his trademark or whatever.
Why don't you guys check your damn facts AND story before going off on all this blatant sensationalism. "digg helped make godaddy to do the right thing" Complete and utter *****. - tyrantbuilt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Guys.. I think godaddy did the right thing in the end.. but really they should have dealt with it differently from the start. I do appreciate the support we got on here and really I feel if it wasnt for digg.com and m-ook.com we would be screwed seriously.
- Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Don't forget that GoDaddy.com did the WRONG thing in the first place. The foresaw their wallets shrinking in size and did what they thought was in their own best interest.
Good on all that called them out...they definitely overstepped their bounds on this one. - adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Don't forget that GoDaddy.com did the WRONG thing in the first place"
EXACTLY!!!! The problem is that they thought they had the right to do this in the first place! Like I said on the other story, I would still pull my stuff from them. - FRAGaLOT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Love to see Kevin and Alex's spin on this on the next Diggnation, since GoDaddy is one of their big sponsors.
- neura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1in response to min_t: apparently godaddy was being pressured by the 3000 pound gorilla. I'd say cut them some slack. If Microsoft contacted you and threatened legal action, you'd probably act first and ask questions later. (just guessing, but maybe you're really that hardcore and have enough money to deal with taking on microsoft ;)
- neura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1OK, actually, they weren't claiming anything except "you are in violation of our agreement", yada. They said section 7 and section 7 has to do with trademark/copyright violation of the name itself and could possibly be used to cover content ONLY if hosted by godaddy, which is not the case with mybittorent.com (as you noted ;)
- Matt2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1> The problem with making yourself responsible for customer content is lawyers will hold you to that. Once you take down one site another lawyers can sue you for not taking down all other offending sites as well.
Exactly, Internet providers fall under the same condition of a Common Carrier. If they demonstrate the ability or willingness to moderate internally rather than passing traffic indiscriminately, they become liable for other instances as well. I think some P2P networks have tried classifying themselves similarly, but without much success. It's a coveted protection and not something to be squandered away lightly. - DarkRage, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2or did they fear the PriceRitePhoto effect?
- neura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In response to beanlover: The were claiming that the domain name itself violated their policy, which (again, as far as I can tell) only has to do with the name itself violating copyright or trademarks. In which case they can take the action of disabling that domain.
- timdorr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12 hour turnaround? That's pretty fast!
- findhostcoupons, on 03/21/2009, -0/+1It is always a pleasure to hear that GoDaddy acts in the right way!
- zbeast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2This is a very interesting story.
After reading the opening post my total outrage has
been downgraded to mild outrage.
I'm sorry that torrent sites are in practice against
there TOS. I have 5 domains with there company
I will not be adding more and moving the ones that I have. - rc_collins, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I am guessing Bob Parsons had no clue what happend, and once he caught wind he set ***** striaght. Bob is a great guy, listen to his podcast sometime, he kicks ass.
--dan - Diggnified, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2They caved under the pressure of digg. Never underestimate the power of the ppl.
- Tufriast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2DON'T FORGET GODADDY WAS KNEE-JERKING TO MICRO$OFT.
If you want this crap to stop, stop buying their crud! Mod me down if you want, but read the article, and you'll see. Torrenting is not illegal, and it never should be. A torrent file doesn't have ANY M$ source code in it. What M$ is doing is 100% plainly, flatly, and incredibly illegal. It's bullying of the worst kind, and a protection racket.
WHERE IS THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT???? - Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think some diggers are confused. These torrent sites weren't being hosted on godaddy.com's web host service (correct me if I'm wrong). They just registered their domain names using Godaddy. Shutting down a site hosted on your servers that violates your TOS (most of which state you can't be a WAREZ site, etc.) is within their rights...but "turning off" their DNS entry is way outside Godaddy's rights as a registrar.
- tyrantbuilt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We host ourselves so we know that is really frustrating for Microsoft and others. Also we do follow the DMCA which states an automated site isn't responsible for data collected by an automated method (like google links to torrents or even ACTUAL copy right protected property as well) BUT we are required to remove links to copyrighted material (bittorrent files are NOT copyrighted by the way but we do remove them when PROPERLY requested to do so) when requested OR provide information on the source of the material.
- tyrantbuilt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1neura, I spoke with them on the phone (godaddy), they woke me up out of bed its late night/ early morning here in Japan. they stated the complant came form mircosoft regarding their software being distributed on mybittorrent.com it had nothing to do with the domain name.
ALso do you feel its right for them to not first warn us or even forward the complant give us a chance to respond? Also... for them to ask for $50US to release the name for transfer I think was totally out of line. I am happy they took the time to review this but until this story was digg they ignored it, thats the facts.
I am also currently asking my lawyers if I can publish the transcripts of the phone call as I am not in the Us so I doubt I even need their premission but out of respect I will request it. - tyrantbuilt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1there will be an update on m-ook.om later. just need the tafic to die down first so sql can be restarted. Also time for a nap, 5:30am here. mybittorrent will be down until the dns re-populates. also this can be a serious issue for all torrent sites with their domains parked at godaddy or may be even other registries. I just hope this doesnt become the new ngle on attacking torrent sites
- neura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Well, you got screwed then. Because section 7 is not vague enough to cover hosted content, only the name itself. So if you have any sort of proof of the conversation that took place on the phone, not sure what kind of recourse you may have, forced downtime or whatever... but you may want to look into it. Or at least have someone verify that they were breaking the law in the first place, then go telling everybody.
If what you say is true, it seems the problem is worse (and different) than any of these posts would lead one to believe. - adodikan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks like as a way to prevent end-of-the-world flame wars, domain registrars should give paying domain holders 24hr notice before deleting a website from The Internet. Perhaps such a stipulation could prevent such a crazyed frenzy of hatemongering.
- phr0ze, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1AFAIK they are just the registrar not the host. The host should shut down the site, not the registrar. That's why it is the wrong thing. Also holding the domain ransom is wrong to do.
Say you are selling pirated CD's out of the trunk of your car. Well your dealership (not the bank who you are financing it through) decides to repo the car and not give it back unless you pay a fee because they 'heard' you were selling illegal CDs out of the back. The only responsibility the dealership had was transfering the car to you. But now they can come and take it? Perhaps the bank could come try to take it (they have an stake in the car anyways), but the dealership? Doesn't make sense. This is a a$s backwards way to enforce laws.
If you haven't figured it out, the roles of each player are: Go daddy is like the car dealership, The Host is like the bank.
Still, what is up with the $50 fee? Thats like someone who witnesses a robbery and tells the bad guy that they won't report them if they share the goods!? - theImposs1ble, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0whats the origional story>?
- elamr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I've got a few domains with them, but I'm still not putting any "big project" Webhost money into their pockets. I'm pulling the ONE I do have down, soon.
Their limitations on PHP sucks. And if their going to be pulling ***** like that how can an honest hacker make a living?!
Bluehost, here I come. - TKDWILSON, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0""""""Notice how phone books dont list first names?"""""""
What country is that? First names are in phonebooks.
Eric Wilson - tyrantbuilt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Listen the issue was not even that godaddy made use of their right to disable the domain the issue was them refusing you release it unless we paid a fee to have it released. There is nothing prestated representing this and for that they are liable.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Or maybe the torrent site was doing the wrong thing, eh?"
That's not for GODADDY to judge! - GreenSlabOfClay, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Yep, they need to be taught a lesson.
You won't be seeing any of my money *****.
Think before you act. - Nocturnal, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Wow. I had no idea people have had this many complaints against GoDaddy. I have nothing but good things to say but I'm going to be weary and attempt to look for other means of registering domains if they're causing this many problems.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Thanks GoDaddy, you did the right thing.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I stopped using Godaddy after the owner decided to put a pro-Iraq war blog on his front page. Whether you support or are against the war, his politics has no business on a business website.
That was when I left.
No one should be using them anymore. Personally, I like 1and1.com, although I saw that Yahoo has $2.95 domain name registrations (I have no idea if they're good or not) but 1and1.com is excellent.
But Godaddy? NoDaddy! - Bongodongo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1thank god.
- cobra1122, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1wow maybe its just me but look at the power we have maybe we didnt make them change tehre minds but maybe we did =)
- LiThiuMElectro, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Digg effect or they just saw that they made a big mistake by themselves?
story been out on digg for what 20 mins and they retract.. - JoshuaH, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1http://digg.com/technology/GoDaddy_Attacks_Torrent_Sites
- min_t, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Guess I'll have to transfer our domain hosting to another provider after our year subscription is over. If you're going to be in business, try courtesy first before using bully tactics.
- tyrantbuilt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0also the godaddy rep stated "digg.com" in the conversation, just an FYI so it did have a major impact on their decision
- celeb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0LOVE GODADDY@@@@@!!!!!!!!!!
- neura, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't think they would have reversed the decision lightly, or without legal counsel. (one can only hope, anyway) So this should not be an issue for other bittorrent sites. Again, IANAL but section 7 looks to have nothing to do with hosted content, much less hosting services that enable copyright infringement.
Just my prediction, but I don't think we'll be seeing this happen again. - grayapple, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well, if you piss off digg users, you piss off most of the people who watch diggnation, thus loosing potential customers.
- FRAGaLOT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I can't see how Go Daddy could be held liable for any possible illegal actions these bit torrent sites might do. If it's just DNS registration, then Go Daddy has nothing to bitch about assuming it's hosted elsewhere. But if these sites are hosted at Go Daddy.. then perhaps there's a problem.. but even then the files hosted are torrent files anyway, not the actual content people are downloading.
- giocruz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I cant wait till it gets back online
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Godaddy sucks, plain and simple. I suggest everyone stays away from them. Don't take my words, do some research.
- kokobaroko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0and one more thing - forget about mentioning this story on diggnation.
Diggnation has no fixed sponsor deal with godaddy!!! They got referral deal, they are getting paid for referrals. No referrals = no money.
This is the worst kind of a deal (to work on a commision) when you sell *****, because after a while you realise that only way to sell ***** is to LIE about it, tell people it smells nice and has nice color ..
That exactly happened very quickly with Alex and Kevin - they LIED about $1.99 domain prices (1.99 was not an actual price, it was a PART of a price)
It worked the first time, so they are now false advertising godaddy on every episode. - kokobaroko, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0thanking? I ill burry this *****
- rokstar66, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0FYI, GoDaddy is a sponsor of the diggnation video iPod program. In bed together?
- bluh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I didn't see anywhere if they were hosting the site on godaddys servers or what have you. Looking at the whois info, the domain in question is using their dns servers. mininova isn't hosting there or using dns servers, they aren't exactly tiny anymore, but they're still up. I'm under more the impression that the person who owns the domain was probably being more of a dumbass. Granted, godaddy probably should've done something other than have an abuse person clamp it down. Godaddy has been known to not be a hacker friendly place, I'd expect the same with people who are using it for software piracy as well. Remember, 2600 mag was "guilty" for just linking to copies of DeCSS. This is the state of the usa.. If you're going to do anything borderline that's going to infringe on the laws here, esp w/ current administration and the power given by patriot act, you'll probably get the smack down.
- aigirl, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0SENARIO: What would happen if a user was to post a link on digg directly to copyrighted material. The copyright owner than complains to godaddy.com, godaddy than responds by suspends digg.com. Basically that is exactly the same thing. get it?
- Hidekatsu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I encourage everyone to send GoDaddy some emails thanking them.
-
Show 51 - 67 of 67 discussions
© Digg Inc. 2009
— Content created and posted by Digg users is