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- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -5/+2023Jesus, the fact that every record of every video watched by YouTube users, including users' names and IP addresses is able to be handed over to a third party seems like a blatant violation of privacy.
I don't like it one bit. - Srcc, on 07/03/2008, -15/+1234Why does Viacom need all of this information to figure out whether or not a video is copyright? Why does the end user even come into the equation? This judge got it wrong. The people behind MTV, battle bots, and that Star Trek where Kirk kills god don't need our personal info.
- Gregd, on 07/03/2008, -14/+709I don't like it two bytes.
- pilobilus, on 07/03/2008, -4/+563Since when is it the business of a court of law to loot one company's market research data to enrich another company?
- mikestrawman, on 07/03/2008, -17/+550Privacy no longer exists in America.
- species, on 07/03/2008, -7/+462If you read the article it says that they want it to show that copyrighted material is more popular than user submitted videos. This is complete *****, but I guess not much we can do about it at this point.
- Aeomyr, on 07/03/2008, -4/+437Isn't this just going to show Rick Astley as being more popular than anything at the moment?
- hnsez, on 07/03/2008, -4/+315I was all set to rage against the DMCA and Clinton but after reading the Judges ruling http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/files/viacom_yout ... the basis of the plaintiff's complaint is not the DMCA. In fact the ruling is based on the Copyright Act of 1976. Google is actually trying to use the protection offered by DMCA but the Judge obviously ruled against that argument. I disagree with the ruling because there are plenty of cases to support Google's argument that the law provides a safe harbor for online services so long as they comply with copyright takedown requests. Appeal this ***** Google!@
- groverblue, on 07/03/2008, -16/+311from the comments of the linked to article (Posted by: enmass | Jul 2, 2008 7:14:00 PM):
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* Film Production and Distribution: Viacom International, Paramount Pictures, DreamWorks, Republic Pictures, MTV Films, Nickelodeon Movies, Go Fish Pictures
* Television Networks: Comedy Central, Logo, BET, Spike, TV Land, Nick at Nite, Nickelodeon, Noggin, The N, Nick Jr., TEENick, MTV, VH1, MTV2, CMT, MHD
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* Video Gaming: Xfire, Harmonix, GameTrailers, Neopets
* Internet Sites: Screwattack - lordewoks, on 07/03/2008, -1/+268Imagine if YouPorn had to do the same thing?
- Pixelante, on 07/03/2008, -5/+243I don't like it regardless of word length.
- hpvforum, on 07/03/2008, -13/+237Well I guess they'll see my affinity towards Ron Paul videos. I should probably be scared.
- Stavrosian, on 07/03/2008, -0/+191Try moving to Britain mate. Our government wants to keep all of our personal data on mandatory ID cards, and sell the information to private clients.
Sadly, I'm not even joking. - growlands, on 07/03/2008, -2/+185Why does Viacom need to know that I watch "hot girls dancing" videos?
Not to self... boycott anything to do with Viacom. - vondrak, on 07/03/2008, -1/+170It that what the number of views counter is for?
- theghoul, on 07/03/2008, -4/+171Thats why keeping track of IP addresses is stupid.
- ajv570, on 07/03/2008, -3/+155Man Viacom is becoming as hated as comcast
- leontes, on 07/03/2008, -4/+148Viacom is idiotic to get this information raw because it creates really bad press for them, judging by the comments here.
It wouldn't be too hard for them to refuse to see the data until a neutral third party makes the information anonymous to protect user privacy.
Viacom claims they only wish to data to guage how much copyrighted materials youtube watchers watch. It makes me think that as they are willing to risk this public relations nightmare, they are using the information to try to somehow pin this on the end users and that puts Viacom squarely in the RIAA *****-em category for me.
This is all beside the point, that attempting to sue people for violation of copyright for enjoying your product is utterly dull... Instead these companies should be appealing to their pocketbooks and create novel ways of packaging the content to earn more money, rather than attack those for enjoying their works. - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+142@octucis: hand in your geek card.
- BPShirase, on 07/03/2008, -2/+141Need to contact my broker about dumping my viacom stock.
- Canadianinjapan, on 07/03/2008, -4/+121Holy Christ. America has gotten this bad? I hope something is done about this.
- Ryosen, on 07/03/2008, -3/+106Google should give it to them as a print-out.
- ColorBlind, on 07/03/2008, -3/+102wow, i'd finally get screwed
*baa-daa-chhhh* - AIONutter, on 07/03/2008, -2/+99muahahahahaa...
Well, if they check my account, they are going to get rick roll'd a lot...hahaa - Optimus, on 07/03/2008, -4/+102>>The people behind MTV, battle bots, and that Star Trek where Kirk kills god don't need our personal info
That wasn't "God", that was a creature pretending to be God!
"What does God need with a starship?" - onemillion, on 07/03/2008, -3/+100Time to flee the country... *sigh* again.
- Totz83, on 07/03/2008, -4/+99This is ***** outrageous!
- mmijatov, on 07/03/2008, -2/+94Doesn't Google have a responsibility to inform their users about this?
- Congzilla, on 07/03/2008, -4/+94Welcome everyone to Police State 1.0. Make sure to hand your rights over upon entering.
- GeorgeStone2, on 07/03/2008, -4/+85Excuse me, wtf r u doin?!
- ahhell, on 07/03/2008, -2/+84Invasion of privacy much?
- bmac12, on 07/03/2008, -1/+81Since most of the smart people left public service and moved to the private sector
- FutureGuy, on 07/03/2008, -4/+81Viacom will be Viacom, they can't help it. I think the more important question is why on earth does Google store "every record of ever video watched by youtube users (including IP addresses)" forever? That sounds a little "evil" to me.
- duder83, on 07/03/2008, -2/+74OMG are they gonna find out i watch an episode of hanna montana?
- 11Christine, on 07/03/2008, -3/+75WTF?! I suspect that if they do receive that IP history, Viacom would soon start suing hundreds of uploaders, just like RIAA did.
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -5/+74Is Digg handing them over to random third parties to prove a point? Didn't think so.
- Sarevok9, on 07/03/2008, -1/+69Google complied with the law... Lets damn them for it. This is a classic case of a judge violating personal privacy to aid a large media provider, this is NOT something you can fault google for. They went to court, they fought, they lost.
- NRay7882, on 07/03/2008, -0/+64Someone in the Google / YouTube Tape Archive department is hanging themselves from the rafters at this moment.
- Aeomyr, on 07/03/2008, -5/+67They ain't suing me whether I have or not, I'll kick them in da NOOTZ
- inactive, on 07/03/2008, -1/+64Couldn't Viacom tag users with significant copyright material for later action? Though they aren't going to prosecute anyone immediately--simply prove a point that doesn't really need to be proven--the information they have could potentially put people in jail down the road. And, the only reason Viacom would want to know JUST if there is more copyrighted material than not, are they going to try to take down YouTube?
- ElbertF, on 07/03/2008, -2/+63They'll sue you too if you ever watched a South Park episode on YouTube.
- jmp478, on 07/03/2008, -4/+64They can't sue users for watching copyrighted videos...
- bornfreeid, on 07/03/2008, -2/+61hmmm... Viacom doesn't want the MONEY from the lawsuit. They want all the FREE information.
Information = power
It is what has made Google a WallStreet darling. - orangefly, on 07/03/2008, -4/+6201101001....!
- daimposter, on 07/03/2008, -0/+55hey government, i accidentally clicked on the woman with horse video. I was mislead by the title 'woman rides a stallion'. please don't arrest me.
- vondrak, on 07/03/2008, -4/+56*Isn't
- serif69, on 07/03/2008, -3/+55The only reason they would need the names and IP addresses of all the users is so they can go over the list with a fine-tooth comb and start going after individuals for accessing copyrighted material,and those who uploaded it for "making available". Mark my words, you will start to see Viacom take RIAA tactics in the coming year if Google does not win the fight. This isn't about proving the popularity of copyrighted material. They could do that by providing the view counts for copyrighted works. This is about forming cases against the users themselves.
- Murdats, on 07/03/2008, -1/+51if a court rules it then yes.
you think google would do this if they werent legally forced to? - inactive, on 07/03/2008, -2/+53
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