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- plamoni, on 10/12/2007, -4/+58But like most of these, as soon as it gets any sort of traffic (Digg Effect) it goes down...
Someone should make a Digg online "operating system".... We could call it DoS...
Then it could go down :-) - jasoneisen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22Probably the most insecure too.
The login form puts the username and password into the address bar to get to the next page. - robbyjo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17This is not an OS per se since it doesn't do any resource allocation and/or management whatsoever. It's more like shell to me...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Uh. Sun already has something like this called Sun Secure Global Desktop (formerly Tarantella). Very smooth.
https://sgddemo.sun.com/
It sits on a server in front of as many other applications and application servers and platforms and services as you want and then you can handle accounting through whatever you want (LDAP, etc) and then people can connect from almost any browser on the planet without installing anything and have full access to anything you offer them from solitaire to an IDE to printing services.
It's actually pretty cool. - NerveBand, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15OMFG, they so ripped off http://www.eyeos.org
- kneeare, on 10/12/2007, -5/+15considering you need an operating system to go on the internet, this is kind of pointless
- jeffatyouos, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11re: jason, we had it open for about 2 minutes to see if flipping off SSL would ease the digg load. no dice, and a bad call on our part. We'd been running the front page off HTTPS before, and when we return, we'll do it again.
Thanks. (jeff at youos punto com) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13This is really nice.
It works quite ok with Opera too.
This is probably the best of the pack :)
But may be things like wallpaper or calendar could be added too. - Bluezdood, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Exactly, it is NOT an OS. A so called "web-based OS" better be able to boot my machine cold. All of this garbage about web-based OS's is at best a farce. If it requries a web browser running on another OS, then it is not an OS.
lame - GeniusCube, on 10/12/2007, -7/+13About as much use as a chocolate fireguard... Pretty damn funky though, I digg.
- Bogtha, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10It's not an operating system, it's an operating environment.
http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/O/operating_environment.html - mateo60, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5So if I were using that as my OS and it got dugg to deat, I'd be ***** out of luck?
- SonicThanatos, on 10/12/2007, -5/+10I agree, this is not an OS, it is a service, and all the Web 2.0 fanboys need to get over it.
- PantlessMartyr, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9When you refer to OS with the words "online" or "Web2.0" you can get away w/o saying shell.
- Zeerus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I've seen so many WebOS's and portals recently it's so hard to keep up with them all. So far I know of Goowy, EyeOS, Live.com, Protopage, this one, and a ton others I can't really think of. how many times can you copy an idea before it gets old. I actually had a blog post planned comparing them all. So far Goowy seems to be the best choice, free email and some other cool stuff too.
I've played around with EyeOS a bit as well, and I have a Protopage account, it seems to be the easiest to use out of them all. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Exactly. Think thin client. This is what the Sun product I mentioned above is good for. Well, that and then you can use builtin security measures to essentially replace the need for a VPN. So then you could be at home (or anywhere else) and connect to your office through the VPN (but not installing any software or drivers on your machine) and access your network, your office and even your home directory or your own desktop. From any platform and any browser anywhere.
I don't know if YouOS does this. I know Sun's Secure Global Desktop (aka Tarantella) does this very smoothly, so I presume that if YouOS isn't capable of that or have it on the roadmap,t hey could build these functionalities into it to make it more than just a pseudo operating system. - happbando, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7mac people be warned - this does not work in safari.
- GrinningFool, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4"the user doesn't have to confirm the validity of and download a bloated applet."
I'm sorry, are you implying that using massive quantities of interpreted-as-text javascript is somehow a paragon of efficiency? - oepapel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Actually, Microsoft called it an "Operating Environment", not an Operating System. And they were a LOT closer to a true OS than this product is. Windows 2.x had memory management, process scheduling, IO services, UI services and cooperative multitasking.
This has none of the traditional features that OS's provide users. A GUI is the LEAST important OS service. - tapo, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12(Lame reply)
We just dugg its grave, har har har. - OperatorNo9, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Oh crap. I knew I shouldn't have listened to that stupid fireguard salesman.
- Slackwise, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3You can easily run Opera or Firefox in "kiosk" mode as the root window in X11 (i.e. Linux, FreeBSD, etc).
http://www.opera.com/support/mastering/kiosk/
Then put "exec opera" or whatever into ~/.xinitrc and startx.
Now you've got a full-screen "WebOS"
For Mac users, Safari/MacOS X has a kiosk mode too, but you'd have to research it. I'd check on my PowerBook, but I left it at home and I'm at work right now. - Kebie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I am confused, because I thought operating systems where supposed to be the interface between my computers hardware and everything else.. I am pretty sure I need a computer with an operating system to just use this operating system (and a web browser).
Oh wait that's right it isn't an operating system at all, they just called it an OS for marketing purposes. - gunbuster, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4You ever wonder --- if people will come to 'digging' competitors in order to crush them with the Digg effect? Find a site that competes against yours --- but doesn't have the infrastructure to handle the Digg effect.. Digg'em and watch them die! Muhahahahaha...
- Zeerus, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5one more remark, how about an original name. Everyone seems to be copying Apple lately. heck, people have been copying them for years now. They started the whole lowercase initial letter thing with iMac, iPod, eMac, etc. and everybody has been copying that since then.
now everyone's tagging OS to the beginning or end of everything, it's horrible. at least Goowy had an original name, what happened tot he creativity people? - tiuk, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5We have certain groups of terminals at school that just let you use a browser and that's it. Once you close the window, it "reboots" (don't know what it's actually doing) and when it comes back up it loads the browser. This would be handy for a situation like that I guess.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I'm sorry, I didn't read all the comments, so I hope this wasn't said before:
So... Umm.. What makes this an OPERATING SYSTEM? And if 'nothing' is the answer, then why are we calling it that? - hombrelobo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Go to http://eyeOS.info ..... 5600 users and still running fine .... :)
- arzdb, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Really cool idea, although I still don't know how practical it is to have an "online" OS like this. The biggest issue I see is that people will want customization, which will take time to implement. Hopefully this is just a start.
- opnotic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Confirmed that YouOS uses the CLIENT network connection. This makes YouOS NOT function as a proxy server and therefore has no use. Heh.
- merreborn, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Not everything on the net is a desktop PC.
- scanman20, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Makes a good proxy server.
- griz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Mmmmmm Snazzy....
Safari can’t open the page “http://www.youos.com/”. The error was: “lost network connection” (NSURLErrorDomain:-1005) Please choose Report Bug to Apple from the Safari menu, note the error number, and describe what you did before you saw this message. - TangentThought, on 10/12/2007, -5/+7Ugliest. Interface. Ever.
Eyeos.org wins. No digg. - cooltom2006, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Rubbish!
go to http://eyeos.info for a better web OS - bmcnitt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2As a side note on the Digg effect, this idea occurred to me. http://brianmcnitt.com/wp/2006/03/16/digg-effect/ Why not create a Digg Effect Meter for all stories?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"ssgd seems pretty slow and hackish. For a lot of those apps it just logs into a windows machine and seems to do some sort of remote desktop thing."
Read up on the documentation for it. It's an enterprise grade product that let's you connect to multiple operating systems simultaneously, retains your desktop even if you lose your connection, is secure (is fast - at least if you're on broadband), has account management so someone higher up can disseminate access to various systems and applications based on the user, does load balancing, etc.
And no, it's not just "logging into an OS". It's not like VNC at all in that way. While you CAN do that, it also offers you access to whatever your application servers are offering. And you can access it along with everything else all in one nice little *secure* interface.
Hell, with VNC - you at least have to install VNC or play around with lots of settings to get thigns just right using an http-based VNC session. You don't even have to install anything here.
Seriously, read up on the documentation or go check out Tarantella's website. It's a pretty funky little solution and certainly closer to a "web OS" than this article is talking about. - carbontwelve, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5i agree it is ugly
- firehydra2k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I like the concept. Some people don't have personal computers that they have access to all the time. For people who have to use library computers or other public computers all the time, this is a great way to access a personal environment without being on another computer.
Who cares about the extreme technicalities. It doesn't boot up. So? No one licensed the word "operating system," so anyone can call it whatever they want. It functions like an OS. And it wouldn't be pointless. I think it's kinda cooll!
Too bad the server's bashed though :( - RubberbandLN6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Has anyone tried the MP3 Player in YouOS? That is some really great stuff!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3It's as much an "operating system" as Apache is an "operating system". Both are applications/servers running on an OS. Whatever that OS is, I don't know since I didn't netcraft the site.
- mailman-zero, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5This could be used in conjunction with an OS that does nothing more than connecting to the internet and opening a web browser.
Remember DOS? That was an OS, and it did almost NOTHING compared to what we consider an OS to be today. I'm not advocating using this for such a purpose, but it could definitely be done. - xaph, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm extremely impressed. I've long since wondered how an online OS would look like, and this looks really cool. Though I'm not too favourable about the UI. I like the part where anyone can make any app and store it on the system; though my idea of an online Adobe Photoshop that can be accessed by any computer with an Internet will probably never come into creation, I can still dream, right?
I wonder if Google plans to make something like this. - SolariPicasso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It is too an OS, see it says so right here: http://www.youos.com/js/compressed/os.jsc
os.jsc. - finewine, on 08/12/2009, -0/+1Uhhhh, yes... that would be the _exact_ reason to give something negative digs.
- mmbrich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Wow these poor places don't even see it coming :).
Anyways, we all know these aren't OSes, but I have to admire the innovation. IMHO they are still toys at this point, but what diff does that make if they help lead to or become the next killer app?
I've been hacking on eyeOS a little lately. I'm learning a bunch, having fun and watching all the hak5 episodes as an excuse for testing the new features :). Totally worth it.
Matt - sammo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Check out the current developer rankings: http://www.youos.com/html/devrankings.html :)
- yahoofrom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I just want an online OS with a notepad that supports folding. And I know one such.
Windows XP Remote Desktop + Scite. -
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