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- rkfcomputers, on 02/03/2008, -3/+39Let's hope MS is wise enough to prune away the loser services from both MSN and Yahoo and keep the strong ones.
- inactive, on 02/03/2008, -12/+43Who cares about Yahoo? Plus who uses Live Search or Live Mail anymore? This is nothing but two failures combined to form a new and more epic failure.
- inactive, on 02/03/2008, -9/+29Me for one never used yahoo to search. Google results are alot better. Yahoo was out the door a few years ago..well all knew it.
- LightSpeed4, on 02/03/2008, -2/+16image search and video search on LIVE.COM is really good, if you never tried it, you should before saying live sucks
http://www.live.com - tshawkins, on 02/03/2008, -2/+14You have gotta be kidding, Yahoo is still the biggest internet destination by visits and registered users
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/ ... - ortucis, on 02/03/2008, -6/+18MS loves services. Everyday at MS is like huge services orgy. Just look at Vista.
- carbonetc, on 02/03/2008, -2/+13Never heard of Flickr?
- sammykeyes, on 02/03/2008, -3/+14I hope to see it this way:
Best of Y! + Best of WinLive/MSN = one great cohesive web services/content
I mean, it's not like MS will pay for so much money, and not do anything good out of it. Both companies have some great features on what they have, but sometimes they don't have some of the good features that the other company has. I would like to see them merge the best stuff into one super site, instead of small separate ones.
Instead of being pessimistic, I'm going to hope that there will be great stuff coming out of this deal. - lfernandez91, on 02/03/2008, -6/+14The only worthy Y! service is Flickr. And MSFT will probably screw it making it "Live Photos" or some crap like that.
- sammykeyes, on 02/03/2008, -6/+14Well I happen to use Live Search AND like it. I could go on and on, about some aspect that makes it better than Google.
And millions of users across the world use either Y! Mail or Live Hotmail.
You're not the center of the world you know. - quikboy, on 02/03/2008, -3/+8That's rather egotistic of you.
There are many Y! and Live users.
And while I'm not saying Google is bad at all, I find Image and Video search actually revolutionary on Live Search. Really. If you'd actually tried it, you would be surprised. Clean infinite scroll to view images, and hovering over pics give nice details, instead of dropping them onto the clean page. Hovering over video thumbnails acutally gives previews of the video content right there! To me, that's pretty amazing.
Here's the good stuff that Yahoo has : Yahoo! Answers, Y!'s content sites are pretty good, and some aspects of Y! Mail.
Windows Live has : Live Maps (if you'd try it, there are actually good things that aren't even on Gmaps!), Live Hotmail (I know Gmail is pretty popular these days, but Hotmail has changed, and there are some really nifty things for that one too), Live Writer, and other technologies like PhotoSynth, Silverlight, Popfly, and other things going into research.
So I wouldn't call them both 'failures' if they both have tons of users, and many great stuff. - djrbx, on 02/03/2008, -0/+5I'd love to agree with you but unfortunately I can't. Here in the US I'd agree that hardly anyone uses Yahoo anymore, if you go to schools or businesses, they tend to use either msn seach or google.. BUT, once you leave the US and head to, lets say, Europe or Asia, Yahoo dominates over there. I've seen it so many times when I travel abroad to visit my girl in Italy and some family members in Asia. So to say Yahoo is dead is a little jumping over board.
- Compserd, on 02/03/2008, -2/+7Its about time that someone steps up to seriously compete with Google. Google is trying to takeover the web.
- fuzzynyanko, on 02/03/2008, -0/+5I used Yahoo back in the day (before google). Eventually I only used Yahoo for other things like mail and the occasional game. Yahoo messenger also has a few nice points, though I think they merged it into msn's messenger
- srothman, on 02/03/2008, -1/+6A lot of these comments treat yahoo as only a search engine. There are many services Yahoo has that are "beating" Google, like Flickr ( I mean who do you know uses Picasso?), Yahoo Answers (Google answers doesn't even exist anymore, try using Yahoo Answers it's cool), Mybloglog, Yahoo small business (try buying a domain and hosting from Google), and Yahoo chat and games (is there even a Google chat?). If Microsoft can cultivate the sub brands and services that Yahoo does right by merging them into more successful properties and improve them they may really have something. As for the search service itself I don't see it getting more popular than Google, but by combining technologies and taking a "direction" (IE focus on social search etc) they might be able to cut out more marketshare and grow instead of shrink.
I personally use Google for search, gmail etc, but use and really enjoy Flickr, Yahoo answers, Mybloglog, and Yahoo chat and games (has a great online chess playing community). - sf49rox, on 02/03/2008, -0/+5$859 electric bill? Yes, Yahoo! does make their employees run parts of their datacenter at home
- aseainme, on 02/03/2008, -4/+8True, both have no effective search. Recently Google has implemented new policy regarding the Paid Linking and they are stopping the techniques which manipulate the search results. Emphasizing more upon natural search results now!
- inactive, on 02/03/2008, -2/+6The millions of people who make yahoo the NUMBER ONE SITE on the internet care.
Who cares about the iPod? - quikboy, on 02/03/2008, -4/+8That's rather egotistic of you.
There are many Y! and Live users.
And while I'm not saying Google is bad at all, I find Image and Video search actually revolutionary on Live Search. Really. If you'd actually tried it, you would be surprised. Clean infinite scroll to view images, and hovering over pics give nice details, instead of dropping them onto the clean page. Hovering over video thumbnails acutally gives previews of the video content right there! To me, that's pretty amazing.
Here's the good stuff that Yahoo has : Yahoo! Answers, Y!'s content sites are pretty good, and some aspects of Y! Mail.
Windows Live has : Live Maps (if you'd try it, there are actually good things that aren't even on Gmaps!), Live Hotmail (I know Gmail is pretty popular these days, but Hotmail has changed, and there are some really nifty things for that one too), Live Writer, and other technologies like PhotoSynth, Silverlight, Popfly, and other things going into research.
So I wouldn't call them both 'failures' if they both have tons of users, and many great stuff. - amitku, on 02/03/2008, -0/+4It's not trivial to merge companies of this size and integrate their services in a meaningful way. In theory, this could springboard Microsoft back into the web game, but so many things have to go right for this to happen. From a consumer point of view, I'm hoping they are able to succeed, because I don't want Google to have a monopoly on the web anymore than I want MS to have a monopoly on my desktop.
- sammykeyes, on 02/03/2008, -3/+7Ok, maybe you haven't been using Live Search recently. I wouldn't at all say Live Search is ugly. How is it slow? I did a search and it probably took less than one second.
Do you think web search is also useless? And bloated? I know there's tons of reasons to hate some of MS's products, but what you're saying is just stupid. Plain hate. - Audacitor, on 02/03/2008, -1/+4I don't think they'll change Flickr's name. Flickr is really well known through out the web. It's almost a household name. Changing it would be most unwise.
- chriskeyes, on 02/03/2008, -4/+7Yahoo! Search is REALLY bad. Live Search is leagues better than it. Especially in the Image and Video Search department.
Though things like Y!'s content sites, Yahoo! Answers, and even some aspect of Y! Mail are pretty good.
It would be neat to see the best of Y! stuff merging with the best of Windows live stuff. - Digg90210, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3On maps, Microsoft kicks Google's butt. They have the Pictometry "birds eye" images which totally rock! Much better than satellite or street view. Even the newspapers use Pictometry. I wish Google would buy Pictometry.
- quikboy, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3^^^^ Sorry. I mean the above post to as reply to jm4847 post. ^^^^
- johnpaul191, on 02/03/2008, -1/+4I'm in that camp. I would not even give MS a chance to screw things up. Call me a hater, but i would walk in a heartbeat.
- sammykeyes, on 02/03/2008, -4/+7Or maybe they can combine their PhotoSynth technology with Flickr? Because that would be really awesome.
Or maybe they'll just make Pro accounts cheaper, add something new or something. Microsoft KNOWS that if they don't show that they'll do something very good with the acquisition, current users will drop as fast as you can say goodbye. - sovanrs, on 02/03/2008, -0/+3It's just sad to see a one time pioneer Internet co of Web 1.0 era going bust the way Yahoo is without a bang just a quiet whimper! It's even more amusing to see how Microsoft has finally acknowledged to the entire world that it's web and Internet strategy has not really gone anywhere including the much touted Windows Live suite of service, The fact remains that Microsoft at it's heart still remains very much a brick and mortar PC centric co which has been trying to do a catch up on every aspect of next evolution of Web whether it's on line services or cloud computing or for that matter search ..Buying Yahoo at this point creates a tremendous amount of overlap across many on line business's not to mention the vast gulf in terms of culture both from people and technology perspective... If only Yahoo could get it's act right and figured out a way to monetize all the eye ball's it get's for all it's content . the road map was always there in front of Yahoo however it lost time initially not identifying major trends such as video sharing & social networking and later post Semel era perpetually looking over the shoulder to figure out where Google is headed ! In the bargain they lost out on innovation and lost focus on area's where they were the leaders in the first place ... just a terrible way to go i say ,,,
- SDL486, on 02/03/2008, -1/+3competition is always a good thing
- Kanidia, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2I use Windows Live Mail. Maybe not for email, but since I made that account in grade 5, you wouldn't think I would just stop using it? Plus, I still use Windows Live Messenger (not the software, the service).
- chriskeyes, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2Well maybe a little on the MSN side (MSN's content sites are really getting to be a bore). I'm certain Yahoo!'s site designers could give some real help to MSN's side. Yahoo!'s refreshed sites have really started getting more usable lately if you're a heavy user of them.
But as for Windows Live, the only thing Y! has on the is just Flickr. I hope the deal means cheaper Pro accounts, PhotoSynth tech, and maybe other new features we've been waiting for. - deadowl, on 02/03/2008, -1/+3Well, the going price is a no brainer. However, the FTC is the judge... not so much time.
- voyvf, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2Even with electric heating, mine rarely goes above $200.
- MioTheGreat, on 02/03/2008, -7/+9I actually kind of like Live for searching. It gives surprisingly good results, and the image search is better than Google's in every way shape and form.
- northerngeek, on 02/03/2008, -0/+2Not to say you're one of these people but in my experience people who have their email "hacked" are normally just careless with making their passwords, choosing answers to secret questions or just have rather poor practice with regards to holding informtion.
The number of people I know who say Gmail gives them less spam, I have a Yahoo! mail account and I don't get any spam- what's the explanation? I would expect it's that a lot of people put their email in places easy for bots to find, have friends who give out their email to "services" so I can be "reccomended" ... it's no wonder they get spammed.
I imagine you are either:
A) Really unlucky- in which case I have sympathy
B) Something like the above description of a person
C) Spreading F-U-D which so many MS haters claim MS does all the time when in fact I see it the opposite way 90% of the time. - twitrock, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1I wonder how this will effect the Yahoo features built-in to the iPhone. I really enjoy the weather and stocks that y! provides and hopefully MS doesn't ***** it up.
- igeoffi, on 02/03/2008, -2/+3Microsoft will do what they did to Hotmail to Flickr.
- johnpaul191, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1is this a reference to AT&T + Cingular vs Verizon?
AT&T has more wireless customers than Verizon now, but i don't think much else really changed. The better coverage areas still seems to be the same. In some places AT&T is better, and in some Verizon is better. If anything we lost a major carrier that may have helped keep prices in check. - inactive, on 02/03/2008, -1/+2They aren't doing a very good job seeing as the only thing they are even REMOTELY competitive in is Search and text ads. In every single other marketthat they have entered they are nothing but insignificant players in the market.
- Visarga, on 02/03/2008, -1/+2This deal will be just like when CMGI bought Altavista, thus rendering it useless. I think Microsoft will make Yahoo suck like hell after the merger. So this will in turn help Google consolidate its leading position. At the same time it is a very embarrassing moment for Microsoft.
I never liked "Yahoo!" much. Front page too cluttered. Search is not better than Google's. Mail was ***** bf. Gmail. They don't sparkle and inspire imaginations. Just two me-too companies joining. They will sink faster together. - inactive, on 02/03/2008, -2/+3Microsuck! WOW! That is AWESOME!
You MUST be the most popular kid in 3rd grade! - Kanidia, on 02/03/2008, -1/+2It doesn't suck, but that doesn't mean I use it. I guess I just like Google...
- mithrasinvictus, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Or make it so users need the latest version of silverlight (meaning vista)
- voyvf, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Ah, the web based chatroom. Since you're talking about the lowest common denominator - i.e., those who can't figure out IRC - you're more than welcome to it.
- Giltronic, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1You are correct. however...
http://www.alexa.com/data/details/traffic_details/ ... - betona, on 02/03/2008, -1/+2I can't see how the two cultures can mesh together. My brushes with Y! people in the past left me with the feeling they were very cocky and arrogant to a fault. My brushes (plus a day of interviewing) with MSN people in the past left me with some of the same feeling plus a level of rudeness not often found anywhere coupled with a massive bureaucracy. MSN has so many departments and slices up simple functions so many ways, it's a wonder they ever get anything done.
- TheMachine1, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Thats a nice link but the fact I never heard of it means that yahoo has failed in the past to promote it to me when they had a chance(7-8 yeras ago).
- tba2287, on 02/03/2008, -1/+2Dugg for bad grammar.
- isntreal, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1Well those high power sodium bulbs might have something to do with it. Gotta keep the plants warm.
- tba2287, on 02/03/2008, -0/+1AOL's homepage design is a ripoff of Yahoo's:
http://www.yahoo.com/
http://www.aol.com/ -
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