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- Iriel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13Concerning all the "What's next...?" comments: Enough already!
Words cannot express my frustration at people who can't seem to wrap their head around the idea that the internet is becoming a major platform for digital services in the modern world. As such, companies are going to find a way to cash in on that.
Microsoft, Google and Yahoo don't make loads of money for acquiring smaller organisms and ruining products that you like. Yes, they are out to make money, but chances are that they're trying to make it by attracting people with interesting services and making current supporters happy with new features.
Oaky, so it will probably get ads, but I'm 23 as is, and I've already learned to mentally filter those out without any conscious effort. Please stop acting as if ads are going to take your first born child and steal your spot in bed next to your wife. Besides, I get a lot of Yahoo services with almost no ads just by using the Yahoo toolbar in Firefox.
Okay. That felt good. I think I'm better now. </vent> - super_structure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Most of you are crying and whining as if this is going to somehow be terrible for del.icio.us. You need to realize that this must be exactly what they had in mind, as was Flickr and Konfabulator. The new business model is to create a novel product that gains popularity with some VC. Get acquired by a larger company who can work it in with their existing services as a value-added feature. Then you have a steady gig with your lovely toy.
Flickr and Konfabulator haven't been hurt in one way by Yahoo! and there's no reason to think that Del.icio.us will. The worst thing that will happen is that you will have to sign up for a Yahoo! account, which is free, and you are under no obligation to use for anything else. Quit crying over a good thing just because Yahoo! is a "big" company. Everybody wins here.
By the way, how is Digg in competition with Google News? They are two completely different methods for aggregating news stories and both can be used independently. You people are just really stretching to find something to get all bent about. - StephnDolenc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5"they did" works a hell of a lot better than "title says it all"
+digg for originality - mercury81, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4we are the anti-Yahoo fanboys hear us whine!
- jobeats, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5what's next, google acquires digg, microsoft acquires slashdot?
- TheCheeta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Not sure why people are afraid of ads, desertcoyote. I mean... I suppose we could go ad-free across the whole Internet, but then we'd be paying a few hundred dollars a month for access as opposed to a few hundred dollars a year.
The economics of an ad-free Internet just don't work. You've got to have ads, and user have to support sites they frequent by occasionally checking some of these ads out. - rileyjt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3No, no, next week it will be "Digg aquired by PriceRitePhoto".
Congrats to the Delicious people, I'm sure they got a nice payday and as I use both site, it will be nice to see some integration. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I don't get the Yahoo hate. If Google bought them you'd be ***** creaming you pants.
- treepour, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I can't believe this comes as surprise to anyone. Venture capital goes into startup. Startup grows. Startup gets bought by BigCo. Venture capitalists make back their investment -- and a hefty profit. Starters of the startup make enough $ off the deal to start new stuff on their own, without having to rely so heavily on the venture capitalists.
That cycle is the whole f'ing motivation for starting a startup in the first. We live in a capitalist world. Generally speaking, in a capitalist world, profit is the most fundamental and ubiquitous motivation for doing anything on a significant scale. If you want to do something big and fast, you usually need $ to make it happen -- so you come up with a business model and start peddling your idea to people who will provide the $ on the condition that they not only make their money back, but make back MORE money than they put into it.
Funny how the tech community tends to despise anything that's remotely "socialistic" but cries foul when the inevitable consequences of capitalism start to suck.
And, even more off topic, sorry, but, dullesguy, what's with calling things you don't like "gay"? I'm not saying you don't have a right to say what you want -- but I hope you realize you can't blame some people if they take it personally . . . - redguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What a bunch of morons, what the ***** happened to Flickr for example??
I see this as a good thing and Yahoo = money which means better hardware and speed for del.icio.us. I'm just hoping the creator of del.icio.us will keep the simplicity goals and they'll not bloat it with ads. And even so, if they add a few text ads I don't mind.
It IS a free service after all!
I'm a developer, if I'd create something that a huge company like yahoo would want to buy someday, I'd be in the 9th heaven. - CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3yahoo has a stake in getting something like delicious. basically yahoo is saying their directory is only one of many ways to find relevant content. another is search, and another is community generated, and de-hierarchized. also, yahoo has been doing highly academic research for a long time now in the area concepts that apply to tagging. point is, they'll be able to understand it at its core, both as a business, and a technology, and scale it appropriately.
fans of delicious should be happy about this. - hellomynameisop, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Before each night is done
Their plan will be unfurled
By the dawning of the sun
They'll take over the world
They're Pinky and the Brain
Yes, Pinky and the Brain
Their twilight campaign
Is easy to explain
To prove their mousey worth
They'll overthrow the Earth
They're dinky.
They're Pinky and the Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain,
Brain, Brain, Brain, Brain, NARF! - droxy429, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3hm, i gotta create a website so that can buy me out and i can make some money
- jdawg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+21. I heard this was gonna be Microsoft... so, clearly Microsoft buying DIGG is the next step. :-)
2. I love how DIGG put a Flickr-style front end on del.icio.us, and now delicious is getting bought by Flickr/Yahoo who will clearly rebrand delicious to be more like DIGG/Flickr. How ironic.
3. Yahoo is great at buying things and not screwing them up (at least now they are!). Flickr has gotten better and better since Yahoo bought them. They give more in terms of service, features, stability, and speed than they ever have. So, delicious will be just fine... - ColdChilli, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yahoo has My Web, they got del.icio.us to get rid of it
- jiminoc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I love how young tech geeks get dissapointed when they find out people are actually trying to make a living. boooo flickr and delicious should have stayed poor for the people... yea that works.
- super_structure, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Ads? Seriously? Where are the ads in Flickr? Could someone show me one damn ad in Flickr? I can't find them anywhere. Nor in Konfabulator, for that matter. Why? Oh yeah, because they don't exist.
- FriedGeek, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Brilliant! Now I'll get more ads, Merry Christmas.
- MOGua, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Many negative comments about Yahoo!...
Why is that so many people love Google and hate Yahoo!?, what did Yahoo! ever do that Google didn't? - siouxmoux, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So del.icio.us new web address soon will be http://del.icio.us.yahoo.com ?? for Japan del.icio.jp.yahoo.com and UK del.icio.uk.yahoo.com Canada del.icio.ca.yahoo.com and Germany del.icio.de.yahoo.com yada yada yada....
- multifaceted, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I don't understand why so many people hate yahoo. I think this will be interesting.
- fennec, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Hopefully, this will solve del.icio.us worst problem: it's slow as molasses.
- icheyne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://de.lirio.us/ is an open alternative.
You can download the source from the help page:
http://de.lirio.us/rubric/doc/help - Sparticuz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2hey...if you can't beat the competition...eat 'em
- mikew101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm overwhelmed by those who say they will no longer use dellicious just because Yahoo bought them. First of all the technology as stated previously is very trivial and can be programmed by Yahoo very quickly and very cheaply. They only bought the site so that the users would keep using it, and Yahoo would have more content to power next generation search engines. To get a feel for what people are interested in by looking at what people are bookmarking. Secondly Google has ads on pretty much all of its products. Not every last one, but they are working on it. Google maps which is a really cool feature will soon display ads right on the map for local businesses. That is annoying. You are worried about text ads that may be display on delicious when Google is going to be placing flags all over the map. Digg will not be bought by Google or Yahoo or anybody like that. If it gets bought I would bet on Rupert Murdoch. But back to the point. Let's say that no one buys delicious. They either would have to place ads themselves on the pages, but for some reason I think no one would care, or they would go out of business. At least Flickr had a form of revenue. Delicious had no known business model. Their only option was to get bought out or go out of business. AOL may be bought by Microsoft or Google. Why? Microsoft wants to hurt Google. AOL is by far Google's best adsense customer. Google wants to buy AOL to protect their investment. Makes sense. This would eventually happen to delicious also. Delicous to avoid going out of business would have to have text ads. Google or Yahoo/Overture would be already earning a percent of the ads why not get all of the money. This is why delicious was bought before the ads were placed. Because later on the deal would have been more expensive. By the way I read a few comments of people asking how much they got bought for. The deal is an estimated 30 - 35 million.
- edmicman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1There's not an open source alternative already, or something you can host yourself? Come on, the concept isn't THAT hard or complex....someone hasn't copied it yet?
- thewayner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It might be time for me to consider moving things back to yahoo. Hopefully their new email in addition to looking nice will get some of the features of gmail (especially the quota).
- Greymarch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1del.icio.us runs like crap. I am glad Yahoo bought it. Hopefully they will speed it up, and make it more user-friendly.
- Machine, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Yahoo buying del.icio.us is like Starbucks buying up the local coffee shop that you used to go to to avoid Starbucks in the first place.
- dazzed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love Yahoo... I think Yahoo was the first web site I ever saw.
- eidolon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1good for the delicious team... and good for yahoo. IMHO this is a smart business move from Yahoo... and can only make Delicious better...
- caldroun, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Didn't see that coming...and I second the nice "they did".
- wuori, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Update - it's August 06', still no ads on Del.icio.us. :-) Maybe now you guys can actually think for one second that not every huge company is out to screw everyone.
How about this: maybe Yahoo's original theory for only directories failed and now they are using a proven technique to make search results better. - desertcoyote, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have no real feeling on this one way or another, but seeing these comments does pose and interesting question:
Why are so many people afraid of advertisements? - jamesey, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if the only negative change on del.icio.us is that there are ads, that'll be ok.
- nartan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They bought Konfabulator and Flickr and they haven't screwed up either one yet. Just lay off. Who knows maybe something good will come out of this. Just means to not count Yahoo out.
- redguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"O.k... had to get of Flickr.. now moving on from del.icio.us... someone should make a good open alternative for flickr...."
No kidding dude, how can one support a bunch of datacenters required for such a beast like Flickr?
By selling peanuts?
GROW UP PPL ! - blong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Congratulations.. just don't merge my account with Yahoo! like Flickr was forced to do!
- comforteagle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"There's not an open source alternative already, or something you can host yourself? Come on, the concept isn't THAT hard or complex....someone hasn't copied it yet?"
de.lirio.us -> not as feature rich, but basic. - dougieb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Yahoo won't change a thing except for add their mark on the page... "A Yahoo! Company." Another article about this... http://www.gadgetell.com/entry/243
- AbsentLight, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Let me just say, that if the headline was "Google acquires del.icio.us" and the text "they did!" we would have a ton of comments reading "w00t this is so 4w3som3 b/c google is teh roXXor!!!!!11"
- jeffremer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Let's see:
* human-moderated directories (Netscape/Google DMOZ/Directory, Yahoo)
* blogs (Google blogger)
* podcasting (Yahoo podcast)
* social photo album farms (Flickr)
* social bookmarking (del.icio.us)
Anyone see a trend? These large companies are snapping up user-created content left and right. I'm somewhat surprised the the wiki platform has been largley untouched. Obviously wikis have been somewhat commercialized - you can create an free ad-supported wiki on a wikifarm, but nothing to the extent of Google and Blogger. Perhaps their free-form nature doesn't necessarily appeal to as many people as I thought. Either way, I think wikis are awesome and I definitely see one of these companies taking advantage of that kind of platform. - LouisC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1We don't know what they're gonna do. I personally think it's not that bad. If Yahoo puts any ads at all, they'd probably go with their new text ads.
Congrats, del.icio.us! - t35t0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How much did yahoo pay?
- opennet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow i wonder how much they sold out to yahoo for? whoever created will probably work at yahoo for a year and then go back out once the nda expires. still a great pickup for yahoo- the site was clearly on the cutting edge and presumably get better with a bit more money and focus. word
- nlnnet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This means that Yahoo is a very serious competitor to Google. Thank God that there is still competition!
- echimu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow I love yahoo and google both, Well done yahoo
digg++ - redalert, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1now someone needs to make a new version of del.icio.us not controlled by yahoo so we can use that
- CaughtThinking, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1why do people expect something for free?
you're kidding yourself if you think delicious existed only as a way to give people a "free service" - JoshA, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Google CREATES NEW PRODUCTS."
If I could, I would take back my digg for that comment being in here. -
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