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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+55The only bright spot in an incredibly bleak outlook for music. Thanks to the destruction of Internet radio, lyrics will be the only way for listeners to find and BUY music, since no one announces title and artist on the radio anymore.
Has there ever been a commercial enterprise so worthy of hatred and scorn as the music-distribution business? An enterprise that works harder at destroying its own product, its own channels of distribution, and its own customer base? And yet OUR elected "representatives", who are supposed to protect OUR rights, are toadies to this lazy, criminal enterprise.
There are so many things the industry could do so save itself and music, practically FREE and easy things, which they eschew in favor of futile lawsuits and bullying.
1. As part of royalty agreements, require that radio stations announce title and artist every X songs.
2. Get rid of DRM (this may be emerging as another bright spot) and start selling losslessly compressed music.
3. STOP DESTROYING MUSIC WITH DYNAMIC COMPRESSION. STOP THE "LOUDNESS WAR". Take recording quality back to its peak: 1993.
4. Give up efforts to collect royalties on Internet radio. Internet radio is just one big music-selling tool. WTF is the point of ruining it?
So goddamned obvious. And then there are the more-involved but still valid things they could've done, like subsidizing DVD-Audio players for cars and releasing ALL popular music in surround on DVD-Audio. The car is one place where almost everyone has a multichannel speaker setup, and it's where practically everyone does much of their music listening. DVD-Audio is even piracy-resistant, not only by encryption but because it's multichannel. It was the last chance to actually sell a physical music product.
Take your senators to task for protecting consumer-hating ripoff perpetrators who sit and wait for citizens' cash to be handed to them, instead of going out and actually SELLING PRODUCT. Our tax money goes to hand-outs for ***** who turn around and withhold, destroy, cripple, and discontinue the products that we pay for out of pocket in the first place. - pinab, on 10/12/2007, -0/+24Wait, you mean all this time....lyrics have been illegally on the internet?
***** the RIAA more than ever. - Mithrander, on 10/12/2007, -1/+24This could be good...maybe I won't have to go to pr0nrules.lyrics8392-*****.com to find lyrics anymore...
- sysoprock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+19emo kids nationwide rejoice, you will finally be able to decipher those fall out boy lyrics.
- ryanjulian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15Gracenote is definitely much better known for CDDB, which has been used by most media players to look up the track titles for CDs for at least a decade.
- unclesaamm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14www.songmeanings.net is an interesting lyrics site, if you can filter out the retards who comment on songs just to write "oMg dis song is mah FAAV!!"
- Falldog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12I love how it's illegal for someone to listen to a song, and post what they think was said on a website. If I were a song writer I'd be damn pissed off if someone knew what I was saying.
And thank goodness for the MPA, making sure some loser at home with a guitar doesn't attempt to learn my songs through on-line tabs.
/obligatory 'sarcasm' note - knulpm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+12So no more "Scuse me while I kiss this guy"?
- CapeKid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I've wrote a song, here are the lyrics:
"The"
You all must pay up whenever you post my lyrics. - Akina, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Amen!
- benmarvin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Sweet. Now I can finally look up the lyrics to MMMBop.
- andytheidiot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Unfortunately, it's poorly executed. The lyrics are presented in an image, so you can't actually use the lyrics for anything.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3For those that were lost on the joke - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hwr3SJjyFAE
- omnithought, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2So, just so I'm clear, here....it's legal as long as some big corporation does it?
- ewhac, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2No, that's deliberate. It's so you won't "steal" them.
- h3ndrix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2My project for whosaidthat.com -- may it rest in peace. :(
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"stop thinking that the government knows best."
You have a serious reading-comprehension problem. I say that Congress has been paid off to protect a corrupt and obsolete business enterprise that rips off consumers, and you translate that into "the government knows best"?
Stop polluting the forum. - drjekelmrhyde, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Something good about Yahoo made it to the front page of Digg fvcking WOW
- Iriel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Actually, about a year ago, the RIAA attempted to shut down any independent site publishing song lyrics under their labels claiming that they were illegally publishing intellectual property without permission.
- jasonsalas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Guitar tabs would be cool, too....but that's a whole other ball of wax.
- sysoprock, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3a lonely old man got caught eating pudding!
- doshindude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2since when the hell are song lyrics illegal?
- nuttybar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i didnt know you had to pay to publish song lyrics...is that why 80 percent of the cds i buy today dont have the song lyrics in the booklet ? I just figured eminem retired or sommething
- shark72, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"So, just so I'm clear, here....it's legal as long as some big corporation does it?"
It's a lot simpler than that... Gracenote got permission first. Those random lyric sites generally do not.
It's much like downloading music... if you download music (even free music) with the rights holder's consent, it's okay. If you do it without the rights holder's consent, you're liable to be nailed for copyright infringement.
"Get permission first" is pretty pervasive, legally speaking. If you invite me into your house, it's cool. If I go into your house uninvited, it's probably not. There are lots of other examples. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Now here's a man that knows what he's talking about.
***** labels and their -8 RMS recordings. - ericnmu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1crappy selection so far
- EvilDude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1iArt basically does this.. adds lyrics to your iTunes library
http://www.ipodsoft.com/site/pmwiki.php?n=IArt.HomePage - specialK16, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So... erm.... lyrics on the interweb were illegal?
- Daniel591992, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This site is really nice to find out the name of the songs you hear on the radio:
http://yes.com
(you just need to know the time it played) - bostonscott, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They spend all that money creating music videos - why don't they stream them along with the song lyrics - for free? I can only speak from personal experience - but this would actually make me MORE likely to buy the song or cd... if I could see the video for free online... and easily.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1so is it "fat bottom girls" or "flat bottom girls" that make the world go round?
- Parrotheader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Amen. Gotta love the current state of lyrics sites. Pop-up/spyware city. It'll be nice to get them from a more reputable source.
- masskurec, on 03/03/2009, -0/+0about time the did it
http://xptweak.net - SteveRogers, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2"Nuts on the bedpost
nyunn?? in your song" - crossers, on 07/21/2008, -0/+0oh it's so good. now I will not go to lyrics.com for find my favorites!
http://www.shpe-sac.org
http://www.ocflex.com/
http://www.trgovinca.org
http://www.chasr.org/ - orb_nsc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1And how about PopoZão?
- Sengoku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's worth noting that GraceNote's DB was constructed by starting an open source project, then taking the database private.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gracenote
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/12/02/1955245
The Gracenote of today seems to get most of it's info directly from the record companies. I can imagine Gracenote going after every poster of song lyrics. However, I can imagine people trying to rip every lyric out of Gracenote's database.
Only time will tell how this one plays out. - ewhac, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"Partnership," my pasty white ass.
Not too many years ago, there used to be a site called lyrics.ch, a server run out of Switzerland, which contained the lyrics for hundreds of thousands of songs. The database had been built by thousands of volunteers who typed in and cross-checked the lyrics they heard on the music they owned.
Then this basket of rancid turds came along called the Harry Fox Agency, and said, "We own the exclusive rights to license the publication and use of musical lyrics world wide. Take down your site now."
Result: The site was destroyed virtually overnight, and the Harry Fox Agency got a copy of the database. Now it seems that database has re-surfaced, and Yeah-Who were dumbf*cks enough to actually pay for it.
When we do it on a one-to-one basis, it's, "Theft." But when they do it on a colossal scale, it's a, "Partnership." - littlevish, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0good that yahoo will have lyrics
i was looking earlier today and couldn't find lyrics to a song because they were copyrighted - Kailash.Nadh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Lame attempt. Yahoo does everything possible to get the best serp.
- opes, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1How is this news? buried.
- shark72, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1"***** the RIAA more than ever."
While I agree with your sentiment, you're aiming at the wrong enemy here. Lyrics remain with lyricist or their music publisher, not the record label. The record companies make no money on the sale of sheet music. Likewise, if you write a song and five people cover it, *you* get the licensing money, not the record company. When you sign your life away to a record company, they get all the rights to the recordings. If you wrote the lyrics, you get to do whatever you want with them.
So, in this case, it's "***** the lyricists," not "***** the RIAA." - strabes, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"And yet OUR elected "representatives", who are supposed to protect OUR rights, are toadies to this lazy, criminal enterprise."
I'm not the biggest fan of the RIAA but stop thinking that the government knows best. There are bigger problems with the United States than the RIAA, like that apparently poor people deserve rich people's money more than rich people do. - sugarazor, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0"since no one announces title and artist on the radio anymore."
That's quite an exaggeration/flat-out untrue. - 1KrazyKorean, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2www.azlyrics.com has lyrics to basically everything
- allaboutdatiki, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4Now if they could only instantly and magically update themselves into iTunes ...


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