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- euphemizeme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14DRM was one of those ideas that sounded stupid on paper, and only got worse when implemented. Locking products up in such a way that assumes the customer is a thief is not the way to go.
- u8myfoood, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13wow FINALLY some common sense, whats next, the end of the RIAA?
im guess the second one is too good to be true - mikew101, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10Good for Yahoo! The more executives that step up and speak out the more the record labels won't have a choice, and consumers will only have one party to point their fingers at.
- TheZorch, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10The RIAA are their own worst enemy. They are taking the recording industry to the brink of failure and if they don't take Steve's advice and dictch DRM now and drop all of their frivolous lawsuits its only going to get even worse for them.
Ultimately it'll be the recording "artists" who get hurt the worst if the RIAA keeps doing what they are doing. - WiZZLa, on 10/12/2007, -6/+13lol at "In support of Jobs' open letter" ...he shifts blame to someone else to reduce the bitching from Norway and now he's some sort of "anti-DRM crusader."
People forget that DRM helps Apple tie iTunes to the iPod.
Everyone (including big companies) needs to gang up on the RIAA, similar to the way they gang up on individuals. - colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Subscription services will never ditch drm. No drm kinda defeats the purpose of a subscription plan, doesn't it?
Pay per song plans will get the drm removed if any. - ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8Jobs really is a great CEO - love him or hate him - just watch a Keynote - see the guest CEOs he has on. Sony, Intel - huge companies - Nobody knows how to put on a show like Steve Jobs. Looks like he shoved the first domino in this ANTI-DRM parade. All this press and pretty soon people who never heard of "DRM" will learn to hate it just as much as the rest of us.
Most diggers sometimes have a hard time believe that there is a large section of the world that doesn't know right click from left, and doesn't have a clue what an "OS" is, and never heard of DRM. OK, think of it this way - how many sororities do you think there are.... - zip22, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7slump? what slump? jobs squashed that rumor at macworld. they even moved above amazon.com in music sales.
http://playlistmag.com/news/2007/01/09/sales/index.php - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9Its funny how at the time the Anti-Apple pundits were bashing Steve Jobs calling his open letter a motivated ploy to reduce the heat on Apple. Any DRM whether from iTunes or Zune Marketplace is complete crap.
- Griffin-of-UC, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4DRM? what's wrong with DRM? A business that competes against free and easy with expensive and broken is sure to come out ahead in the end.
- Swift2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I've always been against subscriptions, but then I tried LastFM and Pandora. It's a good idea, if you could just listen to a constant stream of new songs. Of course, it's lower bitrates and the rest. What I like about it is, you can hear a song you like. If you're near the computer, there's got to be a ID and a click-to-buy of anything on your playlist. Seems like a good promotion. Now, if they gave up DRM on individual tracks, I wouldn't mind a DRM'd stream. I've Audio Hijacked, and it's a hell of a lot of work to be there during the recording, then you have to split the tracks -- Ugh. And the bitrate's low.
To make a political comparison, what Jobs did, I think, is catalyze the situation like John Murtha. A lot of people were seeing it that way, but a conservative, ex-military, defense-pork kind of politician got out there and said it. Remember? He's a crazy man? Now he's where the majority of the people are.
There's been change afoot in the very political business of music, and you have two choices: either share DRM so that all platforms can share crippled music, or open it up the way Jobs wanted in the first place: compete with p2p with faster searching, huge libraries of data, reliable recordings and . Remember, a number of people tried to get the labels to put their stuff online, but it took Jobs to do it. DRM was part of the bargain.
My conspiracy theory: Microsoft made an invetment in Norwegian consumer groups. A-ha, we'll get him to share his DRM. Then we'll break it. Or we'll say we've "improved it." Yeah, that's it. Then there will be One DRM to Fit Them All. Mwah-ha-ha-ha! - JurneyAhed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I'm pretty sure Y! intro'd a DRM free service (that costs more) a little while ago. Can't remember how it went though
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/5203146.stm - colincornaby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"Not at all. If there was no DRM and a person cancels her subscription, she will no longer receive any more new music, but the that she already has are still there. That sounds perfectly reasonable for me."
Then what is to prevent someone from downloading the entire music catalog for $7?
Sorry, but it doesn't make sense. The point of a subscription service is you have to pay to keep your music, that's what keeps you from just paying $7 for the entire catalogue and then keeping it. - astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Dead
Ridiculous (and)
Meaningless
What has DRM brought so far?
* Broken issues
* Headaches
* Music sales dropping due to people are not willing to pay for DRM protected songs.
And yet the Piracy is probably still going....so if things are to be turned around, DRM
needs to take a hike.
Not only would everyone with any MP3 player be able to shop at any online store for music, but it will
bring out the competition amongst online stores. For such things who offers the best selection at the
best price (other then .99 a single). - Aleks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Get ***** b1663r..... HD-DVD employs DRM as well. Don't spread your anti SONY FUD in here.
- quickgold192, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4well now that I have a little over 2k tracks downloaded from yahoo at 7 dollars a month, I am in FULL support of removing the drm. or at least them doing it for me
- xoineg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I would support a subcription service if they would at least include a few songs that i can keep each month. If you pay 10 bucks for an unlimited subscription then keeping 5 at least will make me pay, But paying for months and months and then getting nothing is something i will not pay for.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+5Hey thats cool and all, just remember that Gates was the first one to say that DRM sucked, and that you should just rip your music from CD's back in December.
Why, in that context Jobbs almost looks like an also ran. - ray901, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1...
- serrebi, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3My question, why the shot at fare play? It works just as well as any other drm scheme, like plays4sure or whatever they call themselves using over at yahoo.
- Bytor, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1In fact both HD-DVD and Blu Ray use the same DRM.
- valona, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4@ aleks Get ***** b1663r..... HD-DVD employs DRM as well. Don't spread your anti SONY FUD in here.
Oh holy Buddha, is this a disk 'fanboy'? The concept of being a active fanboy of a multimedia distribution format just does not make sense. Every day over 50000 people die of starvation and controllable disease on this planet. And you get emotional because of a piece of plastic? That's even more pathetic than being a 'fanboy' of an OS or of a publically floated multi billion dollar company (MS or Apple). If this is the type of stuff that makes you emotional and angry, then you really do need to take a good long look at your priorities in life. - geekee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1These people actually mean it. Jobs is just bluffing to defect criticism in Europe. If he was serious about interoperability, he'd license fairplay and quit making lame excuses.
- franksands, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Not at all. If there was no DRM and a person cancels her subscription, she will no longer receive any more new music, but the that she already has are still there. That sounds perfectly reasonable for me.
- zanzzz, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5Microsoft had their chance to stand up to the entertainment cartels with the release of Vista but instead opted to lock down everything like it was Fort Knox. For a company with such market leverage they sure displayed a profile in cowardice!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+5What lock down??? The only DRM 'features' that Vista adds are for Sony Blu-Ray disks. If you don't like it, get HD-DVD instead.
- wonderchemist, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Math test:
Apple music sales in 2006 (1.2 billion): If Apple has less then 50% of the market then the market is at least 2.4 billion.
Apple Music Sales in 2005 (614 million): If Apple has around 80% of the market then the market is 767.5 million.
2.4 billion >> 767.5 million. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2> The head of Yahoo! Music also slammed Microsoft's DRM because "it doesn't work half the time."
Something from Microsoft not work half the time? Are they joking? You cannot be serious!
/sarcasm.
Microsoft - the biggest waste of space in NW America.
Vista - another shiny coaster for your coffee cup!
YEAH. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3@zip
A year and a half ago, iTunes controlled about 80% of the paid music download market. Now they are down to less than 50% of the paid download market.
Also, overall music sales are down, and the online sales don't make up for that.
I'd call either of those scenarios a slump and ignore the cupertino melodrama - kiwiboyus, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4I don't believe for a second that SJ was being sincere but he'll sure as hell take credit if it actually happens. If he really felt this way he could have had a mix of non DRM music from the beginning since there are artists that wanted to sell their music without DRM.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -10/+5Steve Jobs strikes again. What can't this man do. People bitch for years about DRM, steve gives his 2cents, now they all want on the bandwagon. Typicial industry pussies.
/waiting for the but..but..but...itunes drm.... - schestowitz, on 10/12/2007, -10/+4So Pater was right!
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/11/03/peter_jenner/ ( Big labels are f*cked, and DRM is dead - Peter Jenner ) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+5I'm sure that Jobs timing has everything to do with the slumping sales on iTunes.
Why would I want to buy a locked DRM song that is a bitch to move around for almost a buck when I can get high quality MP3s from hundreds of websites for free or definitely less than one dollar. The iTunes biz model was doomed from the start. Any idiot could have told them that.
http://indierockcafe.com - covering music, independents and song downloading - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -14/+1DRM Dying
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