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- Celeron, on 10/12/2007, -1/+23that title sucked. no wonder it didn't get to the front page.
- tackle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Why? From what you've said, it seems like you would stick to your GMail even if someone came out with something better. Why would you do that?
Because you are a Fan Boy? - Roger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+15"the code is available to the public to find exploits and glitches..."
... and then fix them. - mousy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Good move yahoo =)
- joe90210, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11I don't get it, are they releasing an API for the service? or the actual source code? why would they want to do that?
- Oakes, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Actually, I think the submitter is the one confused. The article doesn't mention "open source" anywhere. It didn't mention APIs either, but that's probably because of the wide audience.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10wow... who would have thought Oddpost would eventually become free.
- mattza, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I was at Yahoo Hack Day, where this was announced. Unless I'm totally mistaken, what was said is that they will have APIs for mail, not that it was going open source. The example in the article talks about what you can do through APIs, and I"m thinking the reporter was confused .
- zeiben, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I was gonna check this out, but then realized that dot2guy is a litepost blogspammer. Very sneaky.... a-hole
- etnu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6In terms of what?
- Total page views? Yahoo is number 1.
- Total revenues? Internet companies in the same league as Yahoo! revenue-wise: Google, eBay, MSN (part of MS, probably can't count as a "media company"), Amazon... how many of those are "internet media companies"?
- Total registered users? Nobody even comes close to Yahoo
You could possibly make an argument that News Corp or Time Warner are larger (because they are), but only a fraction of their business comes from the web.
What "internet media company" is larger than Yahoo? - CryptoFuseBox, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6Awesome!
I actually pay for Yahoo Plus, and I think that while its a great service, they could really beneit from a wider development community. It's a good strategy for keeping thier product appealing to the masses. More businesses need to look at opening up code or API's to developers. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6And therefore you just abused the inaccurate button. The story has nothing to do with that, and you are trying to get a legitimate story burined on a technicality.
You sir, are what is wrong with Digg. - Roger, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Is that the current (old) Yahoo Mail, or the new beta?
- JurneyAhed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Yahoo!'s been on a roll lately.
- nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Do you feel safe using Yahoo Mail now with their servers probably running FreeBSD? OMG BSD is OSS and everyone can exploit Yahoo's servers!
The success of open source *nix OSs and apps like OpenSSH clearly prove that just because something is open does not mean it's inherently insecure because of it.
I don't need to quote the obscurity cliché do I?
Let's just hope they use an MIT or BSD style license so that we can have fun with it too. I might ditch squirrelmail for yahoo's software. - davidirock, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Am I missing something? Where do I download this to employ on my own server?
- triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4i'll avoid gmail like the plague. keeping a copy of every email i send and receive, "reading" all my emails, cross-referencing with my google cookie set to expire sometime in the next milenia, and a host of other potential privacy encroaching abilities/practices makes me stay with yahoo.
- biffsputnik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3For the moment.. they are not allowing 'full access' to their code, but this is the beginning of that process which they will complete within the next few months, and then it will be totally open source.
- biffsputnik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Initially, based on several sources, not just this article, I understood that the immediate development was the release of the API, first to Hack Day attendees, then generally released. Then, Yahoo would move to open the code once they had sorted out the security issues, and most likely separated some functions to keep on their proprietary side. Now, you have me wondering too... the careful wording is tricky. But anyway, the main point is the same, as I don't think any of us expected full code control on an email app that was still operating as Yahoo Mail - thats huge liability. The shift toward open collaboration by such major corporations, and the fact that some of them look like they are FINALLY getting it.. is huge.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Daiken...just because YOU think people won't spend their time to make things better doesn't make that a fact. Must it be pointed out to you again that the people at Yahoo who made this decision are so farand away smarter than you could ever hope to be that it is not even a contest?
By the way, do you use Firefox? - miaow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2another thing. show the logs of the IPs that have accessed the account. and make it easier to see info about the email (header info) without having to open it , which we currently have to do, much to a spammers delight.
also make it easier to send it on to authorities. currently they can change the email text and turn it into gobbledegook when you copy and paste it. - ludwik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Inaccurate. They are not giving the source, they just released a regular API. "Open applications like Google Maps and Yahoo's own Flickr" (from the article) - also those services are not open source, they just have an open API.
- miaow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2my requests are for 2 things that should be the norm :
1 : all the mail kept behind https
2 : disposable email addresses like sneakemail so i dont have to give out my real address.
why these arent the norm, I dont know. - goatrandy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Thanks for that link. I made sure to mark that other story as a dupe.
- webcrumb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3"other potential privacy encroaching abilities/practices makes me stay with yahoo."
You mean Yahoo! who along with MSN etc. gave US Congress (or whoever it was) lots of their search data? Unlike Google?
Just GPG anything sensitive. If you are sending anything via email that is really very sensitive, you shouldn't be using a third-party. - ralphie81, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ComputerWorld's story of it:
http://www.computerworld.com/action/article.do?command=viewArticleBasic&articleId=9003791&source=NLT_APP&nlid=48 - Kypt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4With me its mainly that gmail works and I hate to change addresses everytime something "better" comes out. I left my yahoo email due to spam (was out of control) and came to gmail, unless somethign drives me OUT of gmail I'm not going to anywhere else unless the features are so mind blowing that I don't know how I could live w/o them.
- sciencedude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Does anyone know what license this will be under?
- Nitron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4Marked as inaccurate. The article doesn't mention "open source" at all.
- etnu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I wouldn't call Google a media company at all -- they're a pure tech company. Yahoo's focus has always been content (think Finance / News / Tech / etc.), whereas Google has always been about technology. This is obvious enough when you visit each company's home pages.
Services that Google provides that people actually use:
- Search
- GMail
- Video
- froogle
- Maps
- Groups
- Blogger
- Google Earth
ALL technology services.
Services that Yahoo provides that people actually use:
- Mail
- Search
- Messenger
- News
- Photos
- Flickr
- del.iciou.us
- Shopping
- Maps
- Finance
- Tech
- HotJobs
- Personals
- Travel
- groups
- Autos
- Music
- Directory service
- Health
A handful of these (messenger, mail, maps, photos) are technologies, and the rest are media properties.
Both companies have a bunch of services that nobody uses, too (like Yahoo 360 and GTalk).
Google is all about search and everyone knows it. That's not a bad thing by any means -- I personally wish that more companies would try to focus on making a small number of really great products instead of a huge array of mediocre ones.
If you don't count search revenue, Yahoo makes about 10 times as much as Google, and even with search traffic Yahoo gets about 5 times as many page views per day as google does (at least according to alexa, which is naturally not very accurate). Yahoo was huge way before anyone cared about search. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Awwww, an individual user thinking that you matter.
You didn't follow their TOS, got burned by it and now are biching like a little girl.
Rest assured, Yahoo does NOT miss your business. - CarzorStelatis, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1They released an API, not the source code. Marked as inaccurate.
- triplehelix, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2how important could that email account have been if you didn't log into it for however many months?
- miaow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1if you mean the new beta, i agree. its lousy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Brilliant. The only reason I use FireFox are the add-ond created by open source developers ; thanks to Flash-Block I don`t have to see the Apple ads. Now if MSFT could open-source IE ?
- gvibe06, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2Amen! To that ....
- etnu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0nm.
- gvibe06, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1etnu ... you left off a ton of sites that Google owns. Like I said, just because it doesn't have google.com in the url doesn't mean they don't own it. See here http://whois.webhosting.info/216.239.37.99 for a nice list.
Now .. do you still wish to debate the content issue? - 55sams, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0You can tell Yahoo that the changes, over the past couple of days, to their email presentation, really stink.. This is view from Firefox, only.
- fdd2k, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0From the article, "Technically speaking, Yahoo is giving away "browser-based authentication" for its e-mail service for developers to build new applications. "
Do you call this open source or giving away code? - Jun22, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0Haha incredible.. i say this is giving away free code way to go Yahoo!
- veniv, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1Nice move! Several software developers will now be like kids with toys. Lots of code to explore!
http://www.sleektools.net/sleekview.html - Daiken, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4Riiiight. I don't think everyone is going to spend their afternoons scouring Yahoo's code just to make it safer for everyone and do Yahoo's job for them. The main purpose of making it open source is so that other developers can add onto the current system.
- gvibe06, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1etnu,
Sounds like to me you are a yahoo user trying to defend the #2 Internet Media Company's place on the net.
and btw .. Google is an Internet Media Company that offers way more than Yahoo in the area of stable services. What, you think that just because it doesnt have the google.com domain that google doesnt own it.
Where do you think that 50% of Yahoo's search results come from? That's right Google!
Hell, Yahoo uses Google to do employee background checks ... So, who's #1? - redalert, on 10/12/2007, -11/+6Nothing can make me give up gmail.
- thunderball, on 10/12/2007, -10/+2cool i signed up
- transfire, on 10/12/2007, -12/+4Until they extend their account deletion policy to 9 months+ (like Gmail) and issue me a public apology for DELETING ALL MY EMAIL, all Yahoo can do to make me happy is go out-of-business. I don't care if they have web 9.0 email, it doesn't do you any good when you have inbox 0.
- gvibe06, on 10/12/2007, -9/+0lakawak,
whatever dude ... and by the way, who are you again? Oh, thats right, GOD .. because you just judged me based solely on what was meant to be just a joke.
get over it ... quit crying - gvibe06, on 10/12/2007, -13/+1Marked inaccurate because Yahoo is not the World's Largest Internet Media company
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