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- ddrirc, on 10/12/2007, -6/+17login: edodo
pass: edodo - antdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Non-registration link from http://nytimes.blogspace.com/genlink : http://www.nytimes.com/2006/05/08/technology/08yahoo.html?ex=1304740800&en=658529acc1fc013a&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss
- muyuu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I have stated this several times already, but let me do it again.
90%+ of FF's userbase don't give a ***** about adblock. Personally, I don't visit ad-ridden sites. The sites I support, I put up with their ads.
I don't even think a significant portion of FF's userbase install any extension at all. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Strange. I didn't need to login to read the article.
- DumbLittleMan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Here is an MSNBC version of the story that does not require any password or registation BS.
http://msnbc.msn.com/id/12680845/ - rationalist, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6muyuu, you can state it several times more, but repeating a stat that you pulled out of thin air and pretending that your own personal opinion is somehow representative of anything doesn't make it fact.
Just as large publishers of music/movies/games are going to have to look to alternative sources of revenue than their traditional retail markup, so websites are going to have to start looking at alternative sources of revenue than ads.
It would be quite interesting to learn precisely what subset of Firfox's userbase installs extensions, which ones they install, and why, but you obviously don't have that information nor have you reviewed it.
Relying on ads as a primary revenue source is a business strategy with an expiration date, and anyone who wants to survive beyond it better develop other income streams. - constantine11, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Yahoo and MSN can install all of the fancy ad revenue software that they want. Ultimately, advertisers pay premiums to get in front of the most users. Here, at least for now, Google has the advantage. If Yahoo really wants to ramp up their ad revenues, they need to figure out a way to get people to switch from Google to Yahoo.
- IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6The future of Google and Yahoo depend a lot on IE. If Firefox wins the browser battle, its AdBlock extension will kill all internet revenue.
Sort of a double edged sword for Google, Microsoft and Yahoo. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"muyuu, you can state it several times more, but repeating a stat that you pulled out of thin air and pretending that your own personal opinion is somehow representative of anything doesn't make it fact."
How is it any different than the post that started this comment subthread?
Truth is, if FF takes over, it would mean that non-geeks are in the realm as well. When's the last time your mother installed a plugin in IE? - h2d2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"Relying on ads as a primary revenue source is a business strategy with an expiration date, and anyone who wants to survive beyond it better develop other income streams."
Well, if you can convince Google of that, perhaps they'll give you a medal or an honorary executive position for saving the company.
But seriously, it's the truth that text ads pay for a lot. I use Overture and Adwords to advertise my sites as well as Adsense to make money. And they are millions out there who are making enough with this system to pay for their sites and then save some, and perhaps hundreds of thousand who rely upon ads as a significant portion of their income.
Also, muyuu is right when he says that most users do not use ad blocking software, or any other extension for that matter. As a user, I have never had ad blocking enabling, popups of course, but not inline ads. And ocassionally I even click on ads just for the heck of it, as long as the site and it's free content are worth it. - WilldeLegend, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2AdBlock sucks and slows my browsing experience down... the best adfilter? My eyes. I choose to ignore ads. That works very well.
- acidzebra, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"luring them to click on those ads a little more often."
nah, son, I'll just update my adblock filters. - astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This would explain' where the sudden uprising in Spyware came from for Yahoo!.... Well Firefox will be there
to stop it...
And the kid in Timebandits had it right about toolbars when he exclaimed "Don't Touch It ITS EVIL!" - scheper, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3The guy in the picture could be William Hung's brother by the looks of it.
- betona, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1PPC is dead now? I'm curious what replaces it? And I don't mean that facetiously; I'm really curious.
Pay For Performance (PFP) is the holy grail I suppose, but following a user from an ad-click to a completed transaction is not that easy in practice for tens of thousands of different advertisers, each with a different sales model. - dbxz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"The future of Google and Yahoo depend a lot on IE. If Firefox wins the browser battle, its AdBlock extension will kill all internet revenue.
Sort of a double edged sword for Google, Microsoft and Yahoo."
yeah ok.... cause EVERYONE uses ad blocking.... i for one actually like to see some of the ads... without them the pages would look empty - capn_caveman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Hey everyone - sorry for the link to the login page. For some reason it opened fine for me when I first saw the page. It also seems to work for me if you open it up in - gasp - IE.
- IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ "When's the last time your mother installed a plugin in IE?"
How can you ignore an extension that has been in the top 10 for the past 3 years?
Ad-blocking is one of the best features of Firefox that is not available on Opera or IE at the moment. (yes i know about opera's adblocking function which is really bad and also about ad-muncher which is really slow). Infact Adblock it is the only extension that I have installed repeated over the past 3 years of using and alpha/beta testing Firefox.
@"90% of FF's userbase don't give a ***** about adblock. Personally, I don't visit ad-ridden sites."
The 90% figure is incorrect. But the 2nd part is true. People will want to see ads for only sites they support, not every website they surf. With competition between the G,M & Y, everysite will now have contextual ads and people will want to break free. It has happened before (10 years ago). At one time geocities and tripod were the myspace of internet, now they are pretty much dead. - miaow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1intelligent advertising is ok with me. google did well with the inobtrusive ads, although they seem mostly irrelevant to me. like here on digg. if advertising is well targetted then it is a bonus imho. as long as its not obtrusive or slow-loading.
- muyuu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1>IQ70
I think you're rather out of touch with reality.
Here at IBM most of my peeps use FF completely bare of extensions, and they're EE and CS people. Those who don't use a bare FF, use Opera. People are lazy and don't have time to even check for extensions. More so when they have to check for extension-compatibility and so forth, or they may introduce security flaws in their office computer.
FF was meant to be a lighter mozilla. Many of its long-time users value its light-weight and thorough testing process over anything else.
This is my personal experience, but it seems reasonable to me most nongeeks won't even visit the extension page. People have enough issues in life to be trying stuff they don't really feel they need. - HitLines, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This is nothing new that a HOSTS file can't do - it's just easier to do with AdBlock. What ad companies will have to start doing is removing the IFRAME and using server side includes (both ASP and PHP support) to embed the code directly. Second, site admins will have to start hosting all images, including ads, on the same server. That way if you block ads you also block all the images. I do this on the sites I admin and the log files prove people are at least seeing the ads... viewing them is another story.
http://ads.domain.com is easy to block via AdBlock or HOSTS. Serve the ads from the same Dir and they become much harder. Of course this is not currently possible with Google's Adsense or Yahoo! (to the best of my knowledge). - Stalks, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Admuncher [ http://www.admuncher.com ] works with IE and is as effective as AdBlock.
- dcnstrct, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Here is a breakdown of the stories from a search engine marketer with excerpts from the email that went out to current Yahoo advertisers.
http://seog.net/7 - TheAngryMob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I read the story summary a few times asking myself: Why did it cost users two years and tens of millions of dollars?
Commas can be your friends. - ProTrader, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Ironic how Google is supporting Firefox...
- nicholasjon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Pay-per-click is a dead end, well-designed (or intentioned?) new version or not. With all the recent news (though it's hardly "recent news") about click fraud, misspelled-domain squatters, etc I can't see how the pay-per-click world expects to continue. New business models will emerge to solve these problems -- new versions of the old model won't get us there.
- RBasil, on 10/12/2007, -4/+2Please don't link to news stories where we have to register unless you also supply a VALID username and password.
- IQ70, on 10/12/2007, -8/+4thanks
- scheper, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2Maybe you're a lesbian trapped in a man's body.
Or you're just having self esteem problems. - worthawholebean, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1Registration required -- and that user/pass doesn't work. Reported.
- zblackeagle, on 10/12/2007, -7/+0Uhh... may I be the first to ask... what the *****!?
*Ahem* I mean, how is that related to this article? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -8/+1How is this related to the story? You're just admiring the beauty of the human form.
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