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- jwalk81980, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10This pisses me off more than anything else the Bush administration has done to date. Well, except for the war. But other than that... Wait, there's also the illegal wiretapping. That might be an even worse invasion of privacy than this. Ok, the war, then wiretapping, then this. In that order. Of course there's the popular vote fiasco that created this administration in the first place. (40 minutes later) Ok, I got it now. This is the 234th worst thing he's done to piss me off.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Okay, let's say Bush gets impeached and throw out of his job, guess who's next in line?
Dick Cheney. - SpeedyG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Show me the law that protects your privacy."
How about that whole "unreasonable search and seizure" thing? You know, the 4th amendment? The one that specifically says one's "persons, houses, papers, and effects" are secure against unreasonable searches and seizures? That law. - Stonekeeper, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3If someone had told you 10 years ago what the bush administration were going to do (as a whole) you would have dismissed them as one of the tin foil hat brigade. What are you dismissing right now? Do your research peeps. It's not hard. This administration leaves really big holes in their stories. It's not tin foil hat. It's just facts.
- brickbat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2""Wait, there's also the illegal wiretapping."
The illegal wiretapping that all of the senators knowingly approved?
"Invasion of privacy"
Show me the law that protects your privacy."
The Senate is not allowed to approve breaches of the constitution. That's why there is no law that was passed by the Senate to approve this. As for privacy, try actually reading the 4'th amendment. If you think it's talking about something other than privacy, you are a fool that doesn't deserve to live in a free country.
Too much right-wing ***** - BritOverseas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Being a Brit and my Wife an American (and Bush backer), plus living in Texas for a good part of the year, it always amazes me when Americans talk about "Freedom of Speech" or just freedom of anything. You have some of the most heavily cencored media (both newspaper and terrestrial television) of a first world nation I have ever seen (I am an Engineer and have travelled and worked in a good portion of the world), your police have almost martial law powers (when they are straight at all) and your Government can pretty much do what it pleases (take all of your possesions on a whim, throw you in jail for LIFE for three stupid, petty crimes, etc etc etc).rnrnGoogle making a stand against what I see as nothing more than a phishing expodition (for whatever Googles reasons) is something that more of your corporate big boys should be doing. America will BE a corporation soon, and don't be surprised if Google/Microsoft don't own it...rnrnDigg...
- ch1ckster, on 03/04/2009, -2/+4Not horribly concerned with why Google said no, but would like to point out that the Child protection act that the US government is trying to do, in my opinion, is useless.
The parent, school, library, etc should be responsible for what the child views or does not view. It should not be something that the government has to look over.
Just my opinion. *digg* - mistshadow2k4, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6There aren't words to describe how much hatred I have for people that DON'T want to impeach Bush.
No, seriously, scratch that. I just feel sorry for them, the poor brainwashed fools. If they want to live with no freedom under a fascist government, let them, I say - but they shouldn't have the right to drag the rest of us down with them. Why can't these people just immigrate to China? The Chinese government would love them. Stop trying to nullify every single freedom America was built on and found your own totalitarian country somewhere else. - SpeedyG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2That amendment also says that they need probable cause and a decent idea of what they're looking for. That's by and large not what they're doing... they're fishing for information that they hope supports their case.
- dramatools, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's truly sad when the Federal Government expects search engines to accept parental responsibility.
For those diggers with children, please be a parent to them. Teach them right from wrong, and about fair play. Teach them not to believe everything they hear, half of what they read, and two thirds of the stuff online. Install a content filter to keep their eyes off of pr0n, but don't demand the Flying Spaghetti Monster dumb down the entire Internet. Get involved with your children and their network activity. Strengthen your bond with them and teach them the way you want, not necessarily the way Bushtopia mandates. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Cool. I never knew those internet pornographers poses a bigger than terrorists.
- falcyn, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"OMG! You can't look at porn on the internet and it adversely affects you? You need help."
Not just porn, Goth porn. Even worse. And don't tell me SuicideGirls isn't porn, cause it sure is. (Art, my ass. Tell that to the 25 million guys jacking off to it.) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3"Also, american needs to stop thinking the own the internet.."
Google is an American company, so they are subject to the law like Yahoo, MSN and others are. Sorry kid. - jared9985, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Obviosuly no one gets that Yahoo didn't compromise anyones privacy. But I guess no one actually reads the articles before making the titles
- jwade1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Also, American needs to stop thinking the own the Internet..
Didn't the UN assign responsibility for policing the Internet to America?
Was the Internet not created in America?
Aren't all the companies involved American? - AwesomeMonster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1pshaw, who uses msn anyway??
- schuller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Everyone needs to actually read about whats going on. THE DATA IS NOT PERSONABLY IDENTIFIABLE. It is silly to think that anyone was "sold out" or that "the government is bad and watching you" when they can't connect people to data. And if they did, don't you think that Google or any other search engine for that matter is already invading your privacy FOR PROFIT? Please read
http://digg.com/security/_Dig_for_Google_s_Privacy_Policy,_because_you_won_t_find_it_otherwise - yensed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I gotta say, I got the love back for google... I beleive that there are other reasons behind this then to "Protect Children".
- rockforever, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1gogoogle
its now 1 word - f89276704, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Stand strong Google. Bush is turning your country into a spy state, soon they will know everything you do. Give an inch, they take a mile. Wake up people !!!!!!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Who said this was targeted to kids searching?
- SisterEye, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Unbelievable, Google stands tall where all others have bent like a blade of grass. All of this “goodness” is going to cost us one day...just wait and see.
“…and henceforth you shall be know as Darth Google.” - link_36p, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow is google doing this for us or them?
either way i feel more comforatable knowing the government isnt capable of bullying all the search engines.
++digg and thx google - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2keyword: unreasonable
The justification behind finding the desired information is, indeed, pure. - shooby, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1***** the bush administration! do they care about privacy for the people? no! do they care about americans? no! all they care about is getting re-elected and the ***** fake "war on terror" which is going little to NOWHERE. Yes, Iraq is free now, but it wasn't a terrorist country! Stop trying to invade our privacy and spend your money looking for the bastard Osama
- ModernTenshi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's called, "Bush wants to try and add a highlight to his already bruised-to-hell administration."
- pheifdog, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0way to go google.
dugg - PunchMeIBleed, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google protect us all!
- mfouchi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0digg for the title alone ;)
- Yodacola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This makes me love gmail even more : )
I think that the government cannot break copyrights, trademarks, and patents when they see fit to. Besides, Google execs have deep pockets, so I bet they win the case. - jimkski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For all the Google Fanboys--- you should really read the article: "It seems apparent that Google objected to the request not for privacy reasons, but on grounds that the request was too broad and burdensome." Google would have sold you out in a heartbeat except for the expense of selling you out in the way the government requested.
- Machine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0jwade1 - That law had nothing to do with under-aged material... and I resent that by the way... it had to do with the larger war on pornography... which has to do with the war on free speech.
This administration is hell-bent on turning back the clock to the 1950s. When you want to control free speech, you go after the easiest targets... like porn. If anyone complains or tries to defend the porn industry, you label them a pervert... much like you did to me. It's all about fear and intimidation.
Once you start chipping away at freedom of speech of ANY sort, then it becomes easier and easier to control what everyone has access to.
That law that made it illegal to be "annoying" on the Internet anonymously is designed to clamp down on whistle-blowers who embarrass the administration by leaking information that the White House would prefer to keep secret.
adamcurtis - the higher ranking Republicans are sympathetic to the Bush Administration and they control appointments to committees for Republicans who might not want to tow the party line.
If you're an old fashioned conservative who isn't comfortable with the Neo Con agenda and the ridiculous amount of spending, you'll find yourself unable to get anything done... and party money will go to a more Neo Con candidate during the next election. It's not a conspiracy... that's how you do business. - diggnationdevon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Amen to google.
- GhostFreeman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0uthaman, please realize that anytime something legal involves the Bush Administration, the libs (myself included) will use it as an opportunity to rip GWB another *****.
- offcamber, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google is just lazy. They aren't standing up for jack squat.
...It seems apparent that Google objected to the request not for privacy reasons, but on grounds that the request was too broad and burdensome. - matman42, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0BritOverseas,
Tim Berners Lees did not create the software the Internet runs on. He is widely accepted as the father of the World Wide Web, which is one application that uses the Internet.
The Internet itself was pretty much an American invention.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet
dugg for a company that, for whatever reason, told the government to butt out. I wish more companies would follow suit. - daedius, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Go google! I hope you last as long as you can! I will never use any of those other services again
- BurninatorX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Way to stick it to the man google.
- GreenLanternFan, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Pokercamgirl,
What do you think the "school, library" are other than governmental bodies? I can see saying that a parent should be responsible (in fact I agree with that) but schools and libraries are run by the government aren't they? - Machine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0For everyone complaining that this story is a dupe... stop... this story is important enough that it should be repeated over and over again until everyone gets the point about our crypto-fascist government.
They've already made it illegal to "annoy" people on the Internet without giving up your name... they've pushed through a bill last summer to force burdensome record keeping on porn sites to make sure that everyone posing is "legal"... which had the effect of shutting down a lot of site... and now they want to analyze our search patterns to come up with laws to restrict more and more of what we can or can't do on the net.
I'm an adult god-damn it. I don't want to be "protected" or treated like I'm a five year old child. Neither should you. Those of you who are complaining that is is a dupe should be ashamed of yourselves.
The fact that something as unconstitutional as the Child Online Protection Act keeps coming back over and over again should ring alarm bells... the neo-cons are just waiting until they have enough of their sort in the Supreme Court so they can pass garbage like this with impunity. - ShosuroYuu, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Yeah, they refuse because money isn't on the line. They kowtow to China every chance they get.
P.S.-China has no freedom of speech. *shock* - walkerwayne, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Google-ize the world! Never could stand Yahoo anyway.
- pgm_01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Children need to be protected from an overbearing government, not the internet.
Around 1998 while I was in college I was writing a paper on "My Old Man and the Sea" so I used a search engine to try to find more information. I remember the amount of filth not porn but filth that came up on the first page. Today the same search on Google doesn't hit filth until the bottom of page seven with a link to ratemypoo (I refuse to even find out what that is). Improvements in search algorithms will weed out unwanted results including unwanted links to porn. The government should not regulate online content anymore than they should regulate the content of books.
It is up to the parents to parent and the government to stay the hell out of my life. Unfortunately parents can't or won't so they expect the government to do it for them. - teamgreen02, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's funny how everyone jumps on the anti Bush bandwagon. Did you guys even read the article. They want RANDOM searches with no personal indentification to do research with. Seems completely fine to me. This is hardly spying. The U.S. government knows more about you than you think, and it has always been this way.
- roder, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0haha.. "Ask Jeeves was not asked."
- buffymcmuffy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I had a dream of the future the other day, 20 years or so from now China is lobbying the UN to help the oppressed peoples of America free themselves from their Corporate Government (Inc) (tm) (c) (Read the Citizens License Agreement).
- play150, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0a while ago i started to use msn search... but i'm not goin to anymore!
- uthaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0dstz - If the fishing results show that google was used to find kiddie porn, then the DOJ could get a valid warrant to access IP addresses for those searches.
Part of me is not very happy with this, the other part doesn't care because if will not affect me. In some ways this is like those roadblocks the cops set up occasionally to catch drunk drivers. Are they not stopping a lot of people without probable cause? Is that an "unreasonable" search? I think the courts have long backed up the cops on roadblocks.
If google picks a fight with the government they are asking for trouble. My guess is they will publicly say all sorts of things and right now their lawyers are meeting with the DOJ to exchange information. - NoSalt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0LOL ... I love it.
I know they didn't actually say "shove it" but it makes me smile to think about. - f89276704, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0They are just using the porn excuse to get access. Once they are in they will look for more than just porn.
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