51 Comments
- jolionessness, on 10/12/2007, -0/+29Dear God yes
- HoosbinPharteen, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Does this mean I should stop looking up german schiesse porn?.
- Victorioso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Here is the full article to save some folks time on surfing :
http://news.com.com/Police+blotter+Google+searches+nab+wireless+hacker/2100-1030_3-6144962.html?tag=cd.top - geronimo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12The solution would be simple: don't give people lifetime cookies and don't save years worth of data.
Back in 2000, doubleclick gave people lifetime cookies and 90% of the internet raised a stink about privacy, people even sued.
6 years later, Google does the same thing and no one cares. Google is lubing everyone up with vaseline, recording more data than anyone else has in the past and jamming it in with a "do no evil" smile. They know everything you search for for years and the government knows that too, they want that data. It doesn't have to be this way if google wouldn't collect so much data on everyone.
A part of me says that everyone is getting exactly what they deserve. - anti_hax0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Yes it is. They double checked.
- kasted, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9is it legal to use your neighbors internet if they dont have password or anything?
- t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8If anyone else is trying to figure what happened in the article and is having trouble:
This guy was a paying customer, and worked in tech support for this ISP. He was fired, and they stopped his wireless internet service. Without changing his MAC address, he used usernames and passwords of other people (possibly found from his job), and possibly ran a DoS attack after getting back on the network. His google search terms were “how to broadcast inter-ference over wifi 2.4 GHZ,” “interference over wifi 2.4 Ghz,” “wireless networks 2.4 interference,” and “make device interfere wireless network.”. - sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8The problem with your line of thought is that we should be free to research illegal activities. We should be free to learn as we please. It is the action with the knowledge that is and should be illegal.
- RatTrap, on 10/12/2007, -4/+11Yeah we wont see him alive ever again.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@Kazenodeku:
There is a way to clear and permanently pause your search history for your Google account (although I doubt it was a feature when this occured):
http://www.google.com/searchhistory/edit?q=&start=0&hl=en&zx=XXXXXX&prev=/lookup&ceh=1
(replaced above hash with XXX for privacy reasons, but you can log into your account and do pretty much the same)
However, I am pretty sure this will not purge the search history as far as Google's datamining goes... - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6@soogy:
I read "Google searches used as evidence" and that is exactly the case laid out in the article, so there is really nothing I see misleading about it. Had you have read the article they do outline that the possible source of the Google search queries being one of the three: browser cache, logs at the company, and a subpoena to Google. - tektalk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Although i can be arrested with evidence provided by google,
i'm still not going to use Yahoo,Ask,AOL, or MSN. - ardenr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Hackers are screwed, the FBI knows about ROT-13..
- Kazenodeku, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Or something simpler, such as his Google login + Personalized Search History, if he had it enabled.
- glock22ownr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4This dude was not a hacker... he just used passwords he knew and cloned MAC addresses... I would title the article "Dumbass Goes to Prison after Illegally Using Privileged Information".
- johnnyhay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Blackboxsearch.com anyone?
Also, reject google's, or every anyother site's cookies and use thunderbird to log in your gmail. - rodbibeau, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3The original link has absolutely NO CONTENT. Please don't post stupid rehashings of another article. Especially if the rehash has LESS information then the original.
Reporting as spam. - walterk29, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Dammit, this isn't a crime.
- jacobsor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4If you research illegal activities and leave an obvious trail of evidence, and then follow through and *commit* those same illegal activities, you get what's coming to you. He wasn't arrested for conducting research. He was arrested for hacking.
- sishgupta, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2CustomizeGoogle also does this and it gets rid of any ads on the google pages and a couple of other features such as direct image links on google images.
- astrotrain, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Shame that folks don't secure their WiFi, they either do not know how to or don't care, until a
a person like this comes to town a WiFi Gang Bang takes place on their network.
"Knight to Rook....Bishop jumps Queen, Knight jumps Queen...GANG BANG!!!!!"
-Mel Brooks (History of the World Part 1) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The crime was not hacking into someone else's computer. The crime was theft of service by attaching to his neighbor's wifi and using the neighbor's net connection.
The search results were used to show that it was the defendant's computer that was the source of the searches and not the neighbor's. It was the defendant's computer and the defendant's responsibility. I would also gather that the prosecutor showed an on-going pattern of use. - Djfind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2This is why I use Track Me Not for firefox. They look into my searches and they find everything from country music to how to blend a baby's diaper. Just now it switched to Human Resources Services. Teeheehee! *purr*
- trashcat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Try an anonymous google scraper:
http://www.scroogle.org/scraper.html
And disable/remove unwanted cookies and change your IP regularly. - emmanuelsotelo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2He should have used a bootable linux cd. (Auditor, Knoppix, Ubuntu, etc)
- MatttK, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2In general, how can you be sure who was using the computer at the time? In the past, I've typed screwy things into a friend's searchbox, joking he'd get arrested for what was searched in his name.
More realistically, someone else could have been using your computer. - arcangelgabriel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3Google would have to be served a subpoena from the investigating agency. This is not 'being evil". Yes you can refuse to cooperate with a subpoena but the court has a dim view of such a practice and someone's head will roll.
- colto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That's pretty much the point where he makes you bend over and he "hacks your network" while you try and go to a happy place in your head. Should of bought that firewall...
- sire021, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2That is why I use BCWipe, for nobody shall recover stuff I don't want recovered.
US DoD 7 passes yo - t3hX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Also, I noticed that the documents talked about an "assigned MAC address and IP address" - since when do ISPs assign MAC addresses?
- Goosemaster, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought all the would-be hackers got the memo and were using a *nix?
- lysine, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1it's in the privacy policy:
http://www.google.com/privacypolicy.html - sire021, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I love that movie :-)
- Phil246, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1some ISPs over here, in particular cable ones assign a MAC address of the cablebox they send out to your account so you can only use that box to access the internet with ( or anything else which lets you clone the mac address, but they dont mention that part too much )
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2"Yes it is. They double checked"
Probably with Google's search engine too, imagine the irony. - GatorVIP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@t3hX
It is possible the ISP assigned him a DSL modem of sorts which has a MAC address. I know some cable/phone companies do this so that you can only use that MAC address to access their network. - TimDigg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@Kazenodeku
Thats why you always log out of Gmail before searching....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/7/73/The_More_You_Know.jpg - stockjones, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This article makes you think about certain free web based applications and the privacy of your information. For example, why would anyone want to use a web based spreadsheet or calendar hosted through an online company? Think of the information they could track or potetntially store. Its a good idea if your running it on your own server but Google, Yahoo or Microsoft? Hell no.
- Dmitrik, on 10/12/2007, -2/+0Dugg for Craig Ball's comment.
- TheReport, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1"is it legal to use your neighbors internet if they dont have password or anything?"
I don't know but I think now would be a good time to sign off there bud. ;) - icedevil6, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1At what point does google warn it's users that they are logging searches, IPs or anything to that effect. Normally websites warn users when their personal data is logged.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1@kasted:
No, it is considered theft of service. - SirJeannot, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0does google help rescuing people who want to suicide too?
- strictnein, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1@kasted:
No, it's illegal. - alexrapo, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1www.uxelements.com
- soogy, on 10/12/2007, -13/+5Marked as inaccurate, as the title implies that Google gave them the search information.
They could have used the wireless router logs, his browser cache/history/cookies, etc. - thatrez, on 10/12/2007, -10/+1whatever happened to the whole "Don't be evil" thing
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2All I have to say is ***** YOU GOOGLE!
and oh ya... SUCK MY BALLS! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -12/+1Here's a novel idea... instead of hiding your tracks, how about you stop researching illegal activities?
Research is research, but temptation is a b*tch. Just a thought...


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