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- sonicspike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+20It would probably be best for Wikipedia to purchase copyrighted content that is media-based rather than text-based. It's easy for users to update text, but more difficult to mimic the quality of photos and other media available through commercial encyclopedias and other publications. Thus I suggest forming an alliance with National Geographic, the Discovery Channel, or the like.
- rocke86, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17School textbooks are an ideal target. Just imagine all that knowledge available to all for free!
- ccheath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14here's a link to the digg submission of Jimbo's original pipermail announcing this initiative
in case you missed it
http://www.digg.com/tech_news/100_Million_Dollars_What_Would_You_Buy_and_Make_It_Free
and OT to Kevin if you're reading this... why don't we have auto-preview for comments like we do for submissions at the bottom of the page... that would be nice . I'll submit a request thru the proper channels. - kamilX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+13"Someone give me an example of something protected by copyright, where the copyright is restrictive to the point where the public interest is better served if that copyright were bought out and the words turned over to public domain?'
Microsoft Windows. - avolant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7sonicspike, you said that somewhere that matters, i hope.....
- Kahnza, on 10/12/2007, -3/+8I want it ALL for free!
- marc26uk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Its got to be journals man, those things should be free anyway.
Start with scientific and medical journals. Especially medical journals: they could make the difference between life and death for any one of us some day. - hackwrench, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Copyright_wishlist
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Copyright_wishlist - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This got picked up on Slashdot and some people there threw out some ideas that made sense. Car repair manuals, for example. Being able to look up a Haynes manual for your car and fix it. Stuff you need rarely but when you need it, you need it badly and have to pay 25 bucks for it, if you can find it.
The Wikipedia folks started a thread on this on meta and point out that they don't want to reinvent any wheels, stuff that's available elsewhere. Classic lit and reference is already well represented (at Bartleby.com for example) and a number of academics point out that textbook idea has some flaws.
Pro journals might be exceptional, in that they cost a bajillion dollars, but IMO they appeal to small demographics. Google scholarly search already gives you indexing for those at any rate. If you need a scholarly journal chances are good you already swim in a pool where you have access to those things, Bob and Mary Jones don't usually need to read the methodology of a recent study on toxin effects on some obscure microsphere in Malaysia.
Sorry to keep going on but the underlying issue on this has set me to thinking. - ccheath, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3yeah sure, but why not?
- theblackgecko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2The entire RIAA catalog should be put into the public domain.
- sonicspike, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@ avolant... Digg doesn't count as "somewhere that matters"?!
- itanshi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2not sure, but if they'd do this for open source, that'd be neat
- rhettnyedotorg, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1well, if this is a 'wish list' anything like my letters to santa:
Controlling shares of Google, Inc. (profits recirculated into purchasing and opening more content, like RIAA library, etc. also to stop them being evil.)
The Human Genome - i think this is patented or something, but really shouldn't be. should be 'open sourced'
PBS and NPR content, archive and publish all or some of it, and make it searchable. - setrajonas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I wish they could get the copyrights on classical sheet music. Hard to find and expensive to boot.
- Aleksej, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0A computer book would become obsolete soon, wouldn't it?
- bitterg, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3I think it's a waste of money for an organization that is constantly asking for donations just to keep their servers online. They have other problems to solve.
- osito, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0As far as scientific and medical journals go, PLOS (public library of science) seems to be doing a really great job of making their articles accessible. It's a really new journal, but everything is freely available online. I wish I had time to find the study, but I remember reading about how articles that are available online are cited more frequently, and that will eventually tip the balance to more freely accessible journals.
- kenthomson799, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Let's say someone wrote an excellent book on Philosophy or Religion or Relativity or Calculus or some Computer book (maybe programming or graphics design or a simple HOW-TO), i mean anything...making it available free for everybody's viewing pleasure thorugh Wikipedia, and people shall learn for free.
I mean learning should be free, that's why this is called the Information Age.
If there are people (i mean publications or companys) who charge for 'learning' [Do note that i am not talking about commercial profit here], than thank God for torrents and pirates and piracy.
Moreover thats the only "legit" use of piracy that comes to mind ;-) - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I hadn't considered software (consider Mozilla before reflexively assuming that turning proprietary codebases loose will save the world) or music. I presumed it would be written works given the context. Is there something elsewhere that describes this in more depth, that implies some examples of what they're thinking?
- TenebrousX, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1moron, fix your interwebs
- TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Philosophical issues surrounding textbooks and copyright -- there's a better model to break that deal (textbookrevolution.org, Freeload Press and the like, for example). IMO textbooks tend to be too narrowly focused in areas of specialty to meet the test of general utility.
In the original solicitation for ideas at http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2006-October/045481.html, Jimmy says "I would like to gather from the community some examples of works you would like to see made free, works that we are not doing a good job of generating free replacements for, works that could in theory be
purchased and freed." He later specifically mentions textbooks as a potential example.
What's an example of a textbook that would make the world (not just English 201) a better place if it were free? - TroubleInMind, on 10/12/2007, -7/+1On the face of it, what's not to like? Sounds like your typical initiative where a group buys a block of land to stop development and make hiking trails, or etc.
Thinking more about it, I can't think of an example in this context. Someone give me an example of something protected by copyright, where the copyright is restrictive to the point where the public interest is better served if that copyright were bought out and the words turned over to public domain? Seriously, somebody throw one out for discussion. I can't think of one yet. - Kickersny, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2You can edit comments. You can't edit submissions.
- airiox, on 10/12/2007, -14/+1Finally, only been 12 hours that it has been down, 10 min later after making the comment, magically its gets fixed...
- airiox, on 10/12/2007, -19/+2Ummm. why is http://www.digg.com/ down but links like http://digg.com/view/all arent... morons fix your mess.
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