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- 007brendan, on 02/01/2009, -1/+11It's just going to force people to pirate their internet connection.
- kasperu, on 01/31/2009, -1/+11:'(
- mataranka, on 02/01/2009, -1/+10as an ex-customer of Eircon i don't see any problems for file sharers. they are so useless they'll probably disconnect the wrong person anyway.
- inactive, on 02/01/2009, -0/+8Piracy is not, nor ever will be, dead. It's also not necessarily bad for companies, for example, I work a lot, so I never get to catch "The Office" when it airs on tv. So, I downloaded it, and liked it, a lot; as a result of this, I bought the 4 available seasons on DVD just the other day. No chance I would have done that if I didn't pirate it first.
- mattearle, on 02/01/2009, -0/+8I really think internet connections should become public infrastructure like roads. The government should realize the internet is important for the education and happiness of its population and build and maintain it. There should be special laws about how you cannot have it taken away from you. It is too important to be entrusted to short sighted corporations.
If I were forced to be an Eircom customer, I would literally emigrate to somewhere with better internet. - inactive, on 02/01/2009, -0/+7Easy enough to spoof a modem's MAC id, the problem is being behind the correct UBR. If you're from North Jersey, Southern NY, LI or Southern CT, I may very well be able to help. (EDIT: I may or not be an incredibly disgruntled employee of a major cable company in that area, who is only still there because the economy is in a downturn)
- dibdidit, on 02/01/2009, -0/+6I remember a time, 20 years ago when i had 10 pirated tape cassette for every original i bought, and all my friends too!
Today, i have 10 pirated album for every CD i buy. The only thing that changed is the way we copy the music!
If an ISP wishes to lose its costumers, they can do as they please! - Totz83, on 02/01/2009, -0/+5I emailed Eircom with some questions on Thursday, awaiting their reply. lol
http://digg.com/tech_news/Irish_ISP_Agrees_to_Disc ... - burketo, on 02/01/2009, -0/+5or else move their connection... For any irish diggers, UPC (Chorus NTL) are rolling out cable internet. No more eircom, no more phone lines. also, no monitoring.
http://www.upc.ie/internet
They may end up being ***** too, but they are worth a shot. I've signed on and will soon be switching. - NinjaBull, on 02/01/2009, -0/+5The biggest problem will be people using other people's connections. The way an eircom connection is set up, you will have some security but it can be broken. http://s4dd.yore.ma/eircom/
- minidiez, on 01/31/2009, -1/+6Quote:
"This agreement will do nothing to change the habits of those who wish to share files. " - Renian, on 02/01/2009, -1/+5It has a cure. It's called "serving your customer".
- seanieb, on 02/01/2009, -1/+5Out of the frying pan into the fire. Eircom is going to get sued back to the stone age when they disconnect users wrongly....this will happen.
- Pixelante, on 02/01/2009, -2/+6That's just the beginning. Now that a precedent is set, more ISPs will follow and, in the end, the internet will belong to the entertainment industry. Well, it has been fun while it lasted. TV 2.0 is coming.
- benitojuarez, on 02/01/2009, -1/+5buy it for me.
- loafer, on 02/01/2009, -0/+4I wonder what Eircom will do when this deal affects their bottom line as customers choose to leave to a more customer/consumer friendly ISP thats pro net neutrality
- inactive, on 02/01/2009, -0/+4We are talking kind of specific areas here, email my user name @aim, and I will help you pirate your connection. ***** 'em. (The more I think about it, the more I realize, I'm not just disgruntled, I'm tired of being treated like *****, and there no chance of it improving.) So yeah, I'll help any diggers in those areas out to try to get free internet.
- seanieb, on 02/01/2009, -0/+3Don't forget UPC/NTL 20Mb
- toxictonic, on 02/01/2009, -0/+3That sucks. Now you'll need a mirror for this page too! :V
- Irishsmurf, on 02/01/2009, -0/+3I feel your pain.
Although this might prompt me to make the switch over to NTL. - monkbot1, on 02/01/2009, -1/+4for those of you unfamiliar with Eircom they have never given a ***** about the customers
- warriorscot, on 02/01/2009, -1/+4Call me when the prices become fair and the people that made the product get most of the money.
- inactive, on 02/01/2009, -0/+3We could just establish an alternative to HTTP that works on a different port...just sayin. Control of port 80 is not end game.
- Travelsonic, on 02/01/2009, -0/+3Where the HELL do you go to college?
- JoeVet, on 02/01/2009, -0/+2The RIAA's dream of closing the internet to public traffic is one step closer to reality.
- seanieb, on 02/01/2009, -2/+4Eircom ***** up their telecom monopoly in the past. Now they are ***** up their broad band semi-monopoly.
This company truly doesn't have a clue.
I had to laugh that they agreed to a deal that would openly publicize that they have gone into partnership with an unnamed third party that will spy on their internet activity.....solid PR work!! I'm sure you will have new customers queuing up for this fantastic service. - MSP1, on 02/01/2009, -2/+4Let me guess. You are not actually a musician. You merely distribute music and think the world owes you a living. Given the internet, the world does not need you any more so move into a different area. Failing that, just die. If you are a musician, then learn to live without the guy I was addressing in the previous sentence. Musicians managed that for hundreds of years. Why can't you?
- inactive, on 02/01/2009, -0/+2I wonder what iiNet Australia is thinking. They are getting sued for similar reasons. I wonder if they will go so far as to sue customs for allowing mailed DVD's through (you know real piracy), the mail system itself, the international shippers, the roads corporations and government bodies, the truck and van makers, the employee's. This is bulloks. If they win does that mean Schweppes can sue the water suppliers for stealing their market, could they then sue home owners for using tap water when perfectly good bottled water (from the same streams) is available. You think I am joking? Coka Cola just got awarded a spring in Victoria's mountains that feeds our water supply. The markup is 6000%. They pay bugger all for it! This sux Fascism is here...
- greevar, on 02/01/2009, -0/+2Fight the RIAA by supporting independent artists! Don't ever buy anything that comes from the member corporations of the RIAA. Don't even pirate it. Pirating the music they produce only tells them that you want what they have. You need to send them a message that they have nothing you want!
- inactive, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1it could start with the older generation being ethical too..
- compu73rg33k, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1Hopefully this will raise awareness about encryption. The solution already exists it just needs to be promulgated. I wish https was available for ALL websites (digg, why not???) and for all other protocols as well. Use sftp, force encryption on torrents, etc.
And then encrypt your hard drive as well. - heartsblood, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1The reality is regardless of punishment people will simply find a new ways to feed their internet addiction. As people are disconnected new ISPs will spring up offering wireless service that neither Eircom or the IFPI can stop or compete against. Monopolies can be a good thing sometimes because they force dramatic changes in the market. Wireless technology is there and it looks like Ireland, France, and Italy may be early adopters.
- deeringc, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1It's the same cable that delivers your cable tv... It used to be called CableLink many moons ago. As far as I know, it's only available in Dublin, Galway, Cork and Waterford (because those are the only areas with cables laid).
- Shazbuckle, on 02/01/2009, -1/+2I've been trying to convince my dad (who basically pirates 24/7) to move to UPC for a long time. When we get the first warning we are moving.
UPC > Eircom anyway :D
Can anyone actually clarify: Is UPC cable? I don't think our neighbours will allow cable to go through their houses ( does it have to?) but the UPC site sais our address is available - Pixelante, on 02/01/2009, -1/+2The problem is that before they'll get ***** hard, they will have caused irreparable damage to the rights of the online community. Even if they were all to fold up and die, we would be left with a wasteland. Maybe they cannot win, but we will lose for sure.
- enraj10, on 02/01/2009, -3/+4Bring prices to rock bottem level the piracy can be prevented
- Irlande, on 02/01/2009, -2/+3Hmm. I think I have a misplaced sense of pride that Irelands finally making news in the piracy community.
Although its pretty *****, wooo! Go Ireland! - inactive, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1cool bring on using tapes to copy music..
- cosy27, on 02/04/2009, -0/+1just left eircom
- absolut1983, on 02/02/2009, -0/+1It took those retards from Smart Telecom a couple of months to sort out my connection, but since they got their act together I've been very happy.
No download limit, proper 5Mb/s download speed and no deals with the entertainment mafia. - NinjaBull, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1It was submitted to Digg. Well not torrentfreaks article. But an RTE article when the news broke a few days ago.
- Irlande, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1Snap! I caught it on The Last Word and thought "digg!" but when I got home, alas!
We tried though, right? - kimbja98, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1You want to cut out the middle man, which is fair enough, but what if the artist decided he liked the middle men? If you could make $100 by doing all the work yourself, or you can make $2000 but you only get to keep 10% of that, you're still doing twice as good and you don't have to do as much work.
The middle-men take a disproportionate cut of the sales profit, but they also have the most risk and leverage in media/advertising. That is worth something to bands. Who prints/makes the adverts, organises venues, sets up distribution rights and coordinates manufacture and sale of the album? You could do this all yourself, or you could pay someone if the returns are going to be much greater. It's simple economics. - Shazbuckle, on 02/01/2009, -1/+2You know, I saw this in the Metro a few days ago and I thought to myself
"I could submit this to digg, I doubt torrentfreak or any other site like that would post it up, afterall, this IS Ireland of course" xD
Sure enough, I was wrong - Travelsonic, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1"oh shut up piracy is dead! "
The search results on Ares, and on all the torrent trackers would like to have a rod with you... in private. - CompleteLime, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1I feel for those of you who are having to deal with this.
Now that there's a precedent established, I have no doubt that this type of prosecution will make its spread throughout Europe in the coming years. If this EVEN come to the United States, I don't even know what I'd do. - snatchmstr, on 02/02/2009, -0/+1I think you are missing the point of this article. The point is that people that do NOT download can have their internet connection terminated due to a flaw in their own routers. Somebody else piggybacking their WiFi. It is this reason the deal is *****.
- jos22, on 02/02/2009, -0/+1my old college block some websites like gamestop as porn.
but then a group of use payed for a web server in the US set up a https proxy and had full net access for the 4 year duration - deeringc, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1The way the internets should be served! :D
- Travelsonic, on 02/01/2009, -0/+1Thank you for proving to me that you have the maturity of a duck. It was a typo.
Buried and blocked.
Here's another one: Go ***** yourself. -
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